Question Does Chinese Version of Vivo X80 work in any EU Country? - Vivo X80

Hello there, i live in Turkey and i m planning to buy Vivo X80 from Taobao.com
Seems like its Chinese version and i couldn't find any answer if i buy this version will i have bear tons of problems such as connection mobile network, installing banking apps etc. ?
And according to vivo official website, there is no way to install global rom to chinese version. is this true or there are someway as unofficial way?
is there any experiance have you got before such like this?

I have the Vivo X Note, which was released a few weeks before the Vivo X80. They both have the same Chinese Origin OS operating system. Some developers on this forum are working on a method to unlock the bootloader and flash the global FunTouch operating system on the Vivo X70. Once they have finished their work the method should work for other devices using the Origin OS Ocean operating system. As for using the Chinese Origin OS operating system, I'm in Canada where the working language is English, and I haven't had any problems. I connect to the local 5G network and my banking apps and Google Pay work fine. My carrier would not enable VoLTE functions on the phone, but that is because of their policy to only enable VoLTE on devices purchased from them. Most European carriers allow VoLTE on these phones, but if VoLTE is important to you (you need it if you travel to the United States where they have shut down 3G networks) then you should check with your carrier before purchasing the phone. Almost all Google services work on the phone - ie Gmail, Google Maps, YouTube, etc., but although you can tap the microphone icon in Google Assistant and then issue it voice commands, it won't respond to "OK Google" voice activation because the phone has its own Chinese voice assistant built-in, which can be disabled, but not replaced. Google Backup, and Google Maps Timeline won't work, but those were the only limitations I've run into. I also found that if you replace the default Vivo Messages app with Google Messages you won't receive notifications when the phone is in dark mode. I replaced the default app with Next SMS and it does receive notifications in dark mode.

I got vivo x fold in the US
And I can tell you almost everything works under CN version ROM
except Android Auto which requires root, currently there is no good solution for rooting VIVO. just let it be I think

I'm thinking of buying the x80 pro but Chinese version ..
tell me android auto does it work for you? for me it is very important that works!

Android Auto, Google Maps history/timeline, Google backup won't work, and although you can tap on the microphone icon and use voice commands in Google Assistant, you can't open it by voice (OK Google). Google Messages notifications don't work in system wide dark mode. Make sure your carrier will enable VoLTE on the phone, some won't.

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How do you buy from taobao? Do they deliver outside china?

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How do you buy from taobao? Do they deliver outside china?
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必须使用国际快递,我是中国人,我在中国
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frcraig said:
Android Auto, Google Maps history/timeline, Google backup won't work, and although you can tap on the microphone icon and use voice commands in Google Assistant, you can't open it by voice (OK Google). Google Messages notifications don't work in system wide dark mode. Make sure your carrier will enable VoLTE on the phone, some won't.
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Hi, and with the globlal version will all that works ? thank you!!

mariocaz said:
Hi, and with the globlal version will all that works ? thank you!!
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Sorry, I have the Chinese firmware so I'm not sure.

Anyone having Google Wallet not working after the last update? Cn version

frcraig said:
I have the Vivo X Note, which was released a few weeks before the Vivo X80. They both have the same Chinese Origin OS operating system. Some developers on this forum are working on a method to unlock the bootloader and flash the global FunTouch operating system on the Vivo X70. Once they have finished their work the method should work for other devices using the Origin OS Ocean operating system. As for using the Chinese Origin OS operating system, I'm in Canada where the working language is English, and I haven't had any problems. I connect to the local 5G network and my banking apps and Google Pay work fine. My carrier would not enable VoLTE functions on the phone, but that is because of their policy to only enable VoLTE on devices purchased from them. Most European carriers allow VoLTE on these phones, but if VoLTE is important to you (you need it if you travel to the United States where they have shut down 3G networks) then you should check with your carrier before purchasing the phone. Almost all Google services work on the phone - ie Gmail, Google Maps, YouTube, etc., but although you can tap the microphone icon in Google Assistant and then issue it voice commands, it won't respond to "OK Google" voice activation because the phone has its own Chinese voice assistant built-in, which can be disabled, but not replaced. Google Backup, and Google Maps Timeline won't work, but those were the only limitations I've run into. I also found that if you replace the default Vivo Messages app with Google Messages you won't receive notifications when the phone is in dark mode. I replaced the default app with Next SMS and it does receive notifications in dark mode. drift boss
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Whenever the system-wide dark mode is activated, Google Messages notifications stop functioning. Check with your service provider to make sure the phone can use VoLTE, as not all of them do.

frcraig said:
I have the Vivo X Note, which was released a few weeks before the Vivo X80. They both have the same Chinese Origin OS operating system. Some developers on this forum are working on a method to unlock the bootloader and flash the global FunTouch operating system on the Vivo X70. Once they have finished their work the method should work for other devices using the Origin OS Ocean operating system. As for using the Chinese Origin OS operating system, I'm in Canada where the working language is English, and I haven't had any problems. I connect to the local 5G network and my banking apps and Google Pay work fine. My carrier would not enable VoLTE functions on the phone, but that is because of their policy to only enable VoLTE on devices purchased from them. Most European carriers allow VoLTE on these phones, but if VoLTE is important to you (you need it if you travel to the United States where they have shut down 3G networks) then you should check with your carrier before purchasing the phone. Almost all Google services work on the phone - ie Gmail, Google Maps, YouTube, etc., but although you can tap the microphone icon in Google Assistant and then issue it voice commands, it won't respond to "OK Google" voice activation because the phone has its own Chinese voice assistant built-in, which can be disabled, but not replaced. Google Backup, and Google Maps Timeline won't work, but those were the only limitations I've run into. I also found that if you replace the default Vivo Messages app with Google Messages you won't receive notifications when the phone is in dark mode. I replaced the default app with Next SMS and it does receive notifications in dark mode.
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So glad I found your answer! So regarding the Google map timeline. Since Google map still works on vivo, can I still view the current map timeline if I log in from another platform, like a laptop web browser?

unloaded1 said:
So glad I found your answer! So regarding the Google map timeline. Since Google map still works on vivo, can I still view the current map timeline if I log in from another platform, like a laptop web browser?
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Good question. I’m travelling right now, but when I’m back to Halifax Wednesday I’ll see if my trip shows up when I sign into Google Maps on my desktop computer.

frcraig said:
Good question. I’m travelling right now, but when I’m back to Halifax Wednesday I’ll see if my trip shows up when I sign into Google Maps on my desktop computer.
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Hey, were you able to see your timeline on Google maps from your desktop browser? Thanks

Just back from a week in Western Canada. I had the Vivo with me and used Google Maps during the trip, but none of it shows up in my Timeline when I sign into Google Maps on my Windows desktop.

frcraig said:
Just back from a week in Western Canada. I had the Vivo with me and used Google Maps during the trip, but none of it shows up in my Timeline when I sign into Google Maps on my Windows desktop.
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Thank you so much for your help! I was definitely not expecting that answer. It is certainly something for me to take in consideration before purchasing. Thanks again!

frcraig said:
I have the Vivo X Note, which was released a few weeks before the Vivo X80. They both have the same Chinese Origin OS operating system. Some developers on this forum are working on a method to unlock the bootloader and flash the global FunTouch operating system on the Vivo X70. Once they have finished their work the method should work for other devices using the Origin OS Ocean operating system. As for using the Chinese Origin OS operating system, I'm in Canada where the working language is English, and I haven't had any problems. I connect to the local 5G network and my banking apps and Google Pay work fine. My carrier would not enable VoLTE functions on the phone, but that is because of their policy to only enable VoLTE on devices purchased from them. Most European carriers allow VoLTE on these phones, but if VoLTE is important to you (you need it if you travel to the United States where they have shut down 3G networks) then you should check with your carrier before purchasing the phone. Almost all Google services work on the phone - ie Gmail, Google Maps, YouTube, etc., but although you can tap the microphone icon in Google Assistant and then issue it voice commands, it won't respond to "OK Google" voice activation because the phone has its own Chinese voice assistant built-in, which can be disabled, but not replaced. Google Backup, and Google Maps Timeline won't work, but those were the only limitations I've run into. I also found that if you replace the default Vivo Messages app with Google Messages you won't receive notifications when the phone is in dark mode. I replaced the default app with Next SMS and it does receive notifications in dark mode.
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I’m in Canada as well I was offered to trade in my current phone iPhone 13 Pro Max 256gb for this vivo x80 pro … but after checking this forum I’m actually worried I was offered the CN version snapdragon with Origin OS 3 … I’m fairly comfortable with mods and chines phone owned some in the past but I was wondering in today’s day would the x80 pro still be a reliable phone to use here in canada ?

metbed said:
Hello there, i live in Turkey and i m planning to buy Vivo X80 from Taobao.com
Seems like its Chinese version and i couldn't find any answer if i buy this version will i have bear tons of problems such as connection mobile network, installing banking apps etc. ?
And according to vivo official website, there is no way to install global rom to chinese version. is this true or there are someway as unofficial way?
is there any experiance have you got before such like this?
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Buying a Chinese version of the Vivo X80 from Taobao may cause problems with mobile network connections and installing banking apps. It's true that there is no official way to install a global ROM on a Chinese version, but there may be unofficial methods. It's important to research and consider the risks before making a purchase.
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[Q] Chinese Vivo restricted access in China to Google Play and services as well

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Google Assistant Voice Match broken/greyed out on China Mainland Emui Devices

Anyone who uses a China Mainland rom of Emui Huawei phone with google apps should at this point be used to glitches, location history unusable, google now screen doesnt refresh, google backup disabled in favour of emui cloud, broken safety net in Betas, spotty Google pay integration... The list goes on.
But the most annoying problem imo is the inability to use Google assistant in voice match. Thanks to some mysterious problem most likely related to huaweis voice assistant (hivoice, yoyo, emy are basically all the same thing). Google assistant voice match is disabled and greyed out for Chinese mainland emui roms. I can say this affect all phones because I have personally tested 5 (mate s, mate 9 pro, p10 plus, P20 pro, mate 20 pro) running emui 4 to emui 9.
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Hi,
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Regards Ralf.
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On chinese roms (model AL00 and Al10 huawei) google assistant voice activition is broken in general. Third party apps do not play well with private space, as it is essentially like a sandbox environment.
FricklerB said:
Hi,
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Regards Ralf.
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Huawei and honor are the same thing, hardware and software. However there is a massive difference in terms of software between mainland China and outside huawei/honor software, including lack of launcher changing, hivoice which replaces Google assistant, lack of location sharing capability as huawei does not use Google location services in China software, as well as more bloatware and less privacy. The screen time management on China roms also activates a Chinese vpn that essentially blocks everything that is also blocked in China, fb, Google the whole shabam.

google map location history is off in Vivo Iqoo Pro

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So far i have to uninstall and reinstall the google play service every other day for keeping the google map running... any good solution or the alternative app that similar as your timeline in the google map and share the location with others?
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Question What about this ROM (?)

Hi,
I bought a Mi Pad 5 Pro 5G and I think I can see how much I hurried up. There is no Global version. In CN ROM only English and I would prefer Polish.
What's happening? Does any of you know if Xiaomi has any plans to do something with this model?
Do I have any system alternative? Maybe a pure android ... I have not found anything on the internet for this model to be uploaded. Please help!
I'm a bit broken
(sorry for my bad english)
You can find a couple of threads about GSIs on the Pad 5 (non Pro) forum. People (incl myself) have had some success in installing some GSIs on the Pro model too. You can't use the Xiaomi pen on a GSI (or custom ROM I think), however, which is a massive downside to some people.
Yes I think the software development for this tablet is really slow. It's no-one's fault. I used to own Mi Pad 4 and they had a huge range of custom ROMs available. I optimistically assumed it would be the same for Pad 5. I was so wrong... If the stock ROM (MIUI) was half decent, we wouldn't need volunteer developers. Such a shame.
If I had read more about how bad it is with the Pro version - I would buy something from the competition, such as Samsung. A bit of money wasted because I have equipment with potential, but soft kills it. I hope that something will move with the next android, for example 13. Shame for Xiaomi for treating customers in such a way. I do not understand the lack of a Global version. I bought a device from China, paying all taxes. Feels like cheated.
KJX_85 said:
If I had read more about how bad it is with the Pro version - I would buy something from the competition, such as Samsung. A bit of money wasted because I have equipment with potential, but soft kills it. I hope that something will move with the next android, for example 13. Shame for Xiaomi for treating customers in such a way. I do not understand the lack of a Global version. I bought a device from China, paying all taxes. Feels like cheated.
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Without sounding like an asshole. If you did a little research on this forum or even google searched about the pad 5 pro before buying it, you would have avoided buying a device not suitable for you.
It was well documented that the Pro version was available only in China and didn't support all languages.
No need to feel cheated, you just failed to research the specifications.
As far as development for this device, I would contact people working on Poco F4 roms. It's basically a pad 5 pro with a small screen. I'm sure they could cook something up.
mickfitz said:
Without sounding like an asshole. If you did a little research on this forum or even google searched about the pad 5 pro before buying it, you would have avoided buying a device not suitable for you.
It was well documented that the Pro version was available only in China and didn't support all languages.
No need to feel cheated, you just failed to research the specifications.
As far as development for this device, I would contact people working on Poco F4 roms. It's basically a pad 5 pro with a small screen. I'm sure they could cook something up.
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Thanks for the info. I will look for. Regards.
Is there any way to upload the Polish language to the Chinese firmware on the CN of the Mi Pad 5 Pro 5G? Currently, there is only Chinese and English and the Global version is not available and probably will not be.
Are Google services on Chinese ROM working properly?
KJX_85 said:
Is there any way to upload the Polish language to the Chinese firmware on the CN of the Mi Pad 5 Pro 5G? Currently, there is only Chinese and English and the Global version is not available and probably will not be.
Are Google services on Chinese ROM working properly?
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Everything works with google. Just have to set the permissions correctly for Google apps.
Chrome translates perfectly and even assistant works in different spoken languages.
Download Gboard keyboard and everything will work.
mickfitz said:
Everything works with google. Just have to set the permissions correctly for Google apps.
Chrome translates perfectly and even assistant works in different spoken languages.
Download Gboard keyboard and everything will work.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you very much.
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Make sure you set google to always allow otherwise the MIUI privacy protection will block all sorts of settings and add ons. It returns blank messages to google so you can't sign in.
This has frustrated a lot of users.
You can try an app called MoreLocale 2 (available on Google Play Store or GitHub) to use a language other than the specified ones on the MIUI Chinese ROM. It changes the locale setting. I can't remember if your device needs to be rooted or not. I haven't tried myself, but I have read a few people saying they could get Japanese available on some (but not all) apps and system menus. Polish is probably available too, but you'd better check. You need to execute some adb command to get it work.
GitHub - c-lis/morelocale: This application will change system locale and country setting.
This application will change system locale and country setting. - GitHub - c-lis/morelocale: This application will change system locale and country setting.
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https://androidlover.net/xiaomi-japanese-language (Japanese website)
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You can try an app called MoreLocale 2 (available on Google Play Store or GitHub) to use a language other than the specified ones on the MIUI Chinese ROM. It changes the locale setting. I can't remember if your device needs to be rooted or not. I haven't tried myself, but I have read a few people saying they could get Japanese available on some (but not all) apps and system menus. Polish is probably available too, but you'd better check. You need to execute some adb command to get it work.
GitHub - c-lis/morelocale: This application will change system locale and country setting.
This application will change system locale and country setting. - GitHub - c-lis/morelocale: This application will change system locale and country setting.
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https://androidlover.net/xiaomi-japanese-language (Japanese website)
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First of all, the device does not need to be rooted. The disadvantage of this solution is that you have to set the language again after every restart. But I found another solution:
It is even better than MoreLocal2 if you change the language in the Android language menu. The so called AOSP Dashboard is accessible via Apps like "Activity Launcher" or "MIUI Downloader" (Both on Playstore, I suggest Activity Launcher).
For Activity Launcher: Open app and search for "SystemDashboard", then open "com.android.settings.Settings$SystemDashboardActivity"
This way you get the same result as with MoreLocal, but 1. you don't have to set something after every restart, 2. you don't have an unnecessary app because you can uninstall it and 3. you don't have to assign authorizations, since everything runs in system dialogs.
* I use my Mi Pad 5 Pro with this solution.
** With "same result" I mean a mixture of English and target language. MIUI apps / system apps mostly but not always remain in English. Everything else should be in the target language if the apps support it.

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