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You're a power user. Can the honor 5X keep up? Rate this thread to express how "healthy" the development scene is for the honor 5X. A higher rating indicates available root methods, kernels, and custom ROMs.
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Hoping for more love to be given to this KIWI devices
How can there be any development for Android 6.0 without the gorram Sources and Binaries. Honor is still holding out, saying they need to beta-test their proprietary ****e. Somehow I kind of doubt that we'll see official Marshmallow/EMUI4.0 before the friggin' year is up.
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How can there be any development for Android 6.0 without the gorram Sources and Binaries. Honor is still holding out, saying they need to beta-test their proprietary ****e. Somehow I kind of doubt that we'll see official Marshmallow/EMUI4.0 before the friggin' year is up.
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I am a beta tester and I would guess another month or so. Software is pretty close. So patience, they aren't holding out. They have actually been very forthcoming and helpful to folks here at XDA.
I hope someone with knowledge about kernels would step up and create a custom kernel so that we can overclock and optimize.
Developement is below average. To compare, my HTC HD2 had excellent custom roms available, my Samsung Galaxy Note I had a fair ammount of roms available with most functionality working properly. The Honor 5X currently has no rom with all the basic hardware working (mainly the fingerprint reader). Whatever the reason is, I can say that currently you should not buy this device if you want a custom rom as your daily driver.
Check the custom roms section if you want to see the recent developements. Check out the CyanogenMod roms, since all the others are based upon that AFAIK. If there is still stuff listed as not working (hardware) then wait a little longer or go for another device if you want to have custom roms.
Do not agree with KoeWaffle at all, with exception of fingerprint. Good choice of main custom roms, does not matter if cm based, that can be used as daily drivers... way better than stock!
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Do not agree with KoeWaffle at all, with exception of fingerprint. Good choice of main custom roms, does not matter if cm based, that can be used as daily drivers... way better than stock!
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All current custom roms are CM based. There is pretty much 1 custom rom with many variations available. The device has been out for less than half a year, so it is really not a surprise nor an attack to this community.
This phone offers a slick design and a fingerpint sensor as major selling points. One of it is not working. How does it offer more than a similar phone from another brand then? Despite what others may think of it, I personally really like the fingerprint sensor and do not want to sacrifice it for a more vanilla experience (plenty of other phones offering that from the get go at a lower price). People should just be mindful of it. If they want a different software experience with the samd phone it is just not ready yet...
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All current custom roms are CM based. There is pretty much 1 custom rom with many variations available. The device has been out for less than half a year, so it is really not a surprise nor an attack to this community.
This phone offers a slick design and a fingerpint sensor as major selling points. One of it is not working. How does it offer more than a similar phone from another brand then? Despite what others may think of it, I personally really like the fingerprint sensor and do not want to sacrifice it for a more vanilla experience (plenty of other phones offering that from the get go at a lower price). People should just be mindful of it. If they want a different software experience with the samd phone it is just not ready yet...
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I for one wouldn't say development is "below average". What would you consider average, for starters? The 5X was, as you said, released quite recently, and we already have bootloader unlocking, TWRP, and root access available as additional options here in the forums, not to mention a (small, ok, but still) number of different custom ROMs including CyanogenMod. To me, there's really not many other "important" things beyond this, except for custom tweaks for every model (the Honor has some as well).
Really, the only "big thing" we'd be missing here on regards to modding would be an easy Xposed install - I say easy because many users have already got it, but afaik it's not a simple flashable .zip but system file editing as well. Not a big deal for a truly tech-savvy person like those who roam the XDA forums, though.
I'm not arguing the selling points; it's true, the fingerprint sensor was a major differentiator considering this phone's market range and price, and many phones have followed the (its?) example. But then again, it's just one feature, and it's already been mentioned multiple times that its implementation is close in time.
I wouldn't advise people to get another phone just because of a lack of fingerprint support on custom ROMs or a kind-of difficult Xposed installation. That is, unless they want to get another phone for like, a month, before coming back and buying the 5X - lol!
Of course, not an attack, just my humble opinion.
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I for one wouldn't say development is "below average". 1 What would you consider average, for starters? The 5X was, as you said, released quite recently, and we already have bootloader unlocking, TWRP, and root access available as additional options here in the forums, not to mention a (small, ok, but still) number of different custom ROMs including CyanogenMod. To me, there's really not many other "important" things beyond this, except for custom tweaks for every model (the Honor has some as well).
2 I'm not arguing the selling points; it's true, the fingerprint sensor was a major differentiator considering this phone's market range and price, and many phones have followed the (its?) example. But then again, it's just one feature, and it's already been mentioned multiple times that its implementation is close in time.
3 I wouldn't advise people to get another phone just because of a lack of fingerprint support on custom ROMs or a kind-of difficult Xposed installation. That is, unless they want to get another phone for like, a month, before coming back and buying the 5X - lol!
Of course, not an attack, just my humble opinion.
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1 - Maybe a poor choice of words, what I am implying is the availability of complete and sound roms is below my average experience (that being the HTC Leo / HD2, DesireHD and N7000). In due time we might see complete custom roms, but that time is not now and I do not think we can say yet whether it will happen for sure (the developers are not paid to do this).
2 - It has been close for months now, they're waiting on Huawai to release the sources. Some say the sources have already been released but I haven't checked them out myself. For now it is not available and thus I say the available roms are incomplete.
3 - I would, if they want to buy a phone now and have a custom rom as a daily driver (/w all functionality) then it just isn't ready yet. Most people want a custom rom to get rid of the EMUI completely. And no, once you buy that other phone you probably stick with it. So if you want a more vanilla Android experience and don't care about the fingerprint sensor, pick the cheaper phone.
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1 - Maybe a poor choice of words, what I am implying is the availability of complete and sound roms is below my average experience (that being the HTC Leo / HD2, DesireHD and N7000). In due time we might see complete custom roms, but that time is not now and I do not think we can say yet whether it will happen for sure (the developers are not paid to do this).
2 - It has been close for months now, they're waiting on Huawai to release the sources. Some say the sources have already been released but I haven't checked them out myself. For now it is not available and thus I say the available roms are incomplete.
3 - I would, if they want to buy a phone now and have a custom rom as a daily driver (/w all functionality) then it just isn't ready yet. Most people want a custom rom to get rid of the EMUI completely. And no, once you buy that other phone you probably stick with it. So if you want a more vanilla Android experience and don't care about the fingerprint sensor, pick the cheaper phone.
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1-Now that's something I can agree with
2-The sources were released iirc, but as you said developers are not paid for this so it's a game of wait and see
3-I would suggest people give EMUI a try for a while after buying the phone. It's not like I love it, but come on; the specs aren't anything out of this world, I know that, so if you so desperately want a custom ROM that you can't wait for a day- just get another phone, don't even consider the Honor 5X, or any phone that comes with a skin for that matter. Besides, the wait makes it more worthwile imo, how can you know how much better a ROM is than EMUI if you haven't actually run EMUI to begin with? Again, just my opinion...
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not happy with honor..... and dont even know if update comes or not think like jst making fool.......
using honor 5x and 6p from last 4 months have got any update even security patch in honor while in 6p it comes every month...... wer saying that we will get update of android 6.0 in last may but its naw june and no responce.................
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Matter of opinion, I respect yours and fully agree with huawei ****ty update policy. At least they open bl and share some sources,which are, at least on qualcomm based huaweis, usable to some extent. I have different opinion on development strength, I see no problem with using crpalmers base (cm) for other ROMs as it working well w/o bugs mentioned by u. The last real things that are to be fixed are fingerprint (on the way,fixed by surdu petru ) and HDR mode on camera.
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Lol, where r good old times when LEO development started and bricks and following recoveries of thosr were daily practice
Yes, huawei update policy is...
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i was kinda afraid of development due to the fact that it is an honor device,bt now am happy that it has official cm13 and other cm based roms.
Very premium feeling phone for the price range, good features. Don't care that much for EMUI though, it's a bit iPhone-y and limited.
CM12 and CM13 ROMS are well represented here, and hope to see some Nougat/CM14 love here soon
Good support considering its huawei
A lot of ROMs hère so one for every taste.
If you are flasholic, you can get drunk with your honor5x : )
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im a flashaholic!!
I made more than 10 ROMs. I hope that's good for everybody.
MY QUESTION IS WHY SO MUCH UNSTABLE ROMS BEING UPLOADED EVERY DAY?? WHY DONT ALL ROMS DEVELOPERS WORK TOGETHER & MAKE A STABLE ROM FIRST THEN TRY TO PORT OR MAKE OTHER ROMS?? AS I SEE THERE ARE PLENTY OF ROMS BASED ON ANDROID 7.0/7.1 & ALL ROMS HAS SAME BUG . ONLY INCLUDED 1 OR 2 DIFFERENT FEATURES IN EVERY ROM . I AM NOT SAYING DONT MAKE NEW ROMS OR BRING NEW FEATURES TO OUR REDMI NOTE 3 BUT DO IT AFTER FIXING ALL BUGS. EVEN WE DONT HAVE FULLY STABLE CM13 BASED ROMS. I AM NOT INSULTING OR OFFENDING ANYONE. JUST ASKING A SIMPLE QUESTION
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Zooroeo
Yeah, you're asking a simple question. Fine.
First, I would like to ask, why you're writing with ALL CAPS ON? On internet, if you write in all capital letters, then it symbolises that you're screaming or ordering them. Even if you doesnt do.
2nd, for most developers out here, ROM development is only their hobby. They dont get paid. You can only donate them, if you want to.
3rd, there are plenty of similar ROMs because every developer want to contribute individually to the community. Dont ask why, it's their hobby. This way they can enjoy more, as it's their hobby.
4th, which "same bug in every ROM" are you talking about? If you meant VoLTE, then it's not meant to be included in CM, if a developer does this, his ROM may not become "official".
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Yeah, you're asking a simple question. Fine.
First, I would like to ask, why you're writing with ALL CAPS ON? On internet, if you write in all capital letters, then it symbolises that you're screaming or ordering them. Even if you doesnt do.
2nd, for most developers out here, ROM development is only their hobby. They dont get paid. You can only donate them, if you want to.
3rd, there are plenty of similar ROMs because every developer want to contribute individually to the community. Dont ask why, it's their hobby. This way they can enjoy more, as it's their hobby.
4th, which "same bug in every ROM" are you talking about? If you meant VoLTE, then it's not meant to be included in CM, if a developer does this, his ROM may not become "official".
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Who says cyanogen supports volte , I have it on my OnePlus 3 on official cm14.1 nightly
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Who says cyanogen supports volte , I have it on my OnePlus 3 on official cm14.1 nightly
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AFAIK, developers here included it by a "hack" type in RN3. I'm not sure.
Simple answer, because nearly every Nougat ROM is based on CM 14/14.1 by TheStrix, which is currently not official and is far away to be nightly. And that's why they have the same bugs
You're a power user. Can the Xiaomi Redmi 4X keep up? Rate this thread to express how "healthy" the development scene is for the Xiaomi Redmi 4X. A higher rating indicates available root methods, kernels, and custom ROMs.
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You're a power user. Can the Xiaomi Redmi 4X keep up? Rate this thread to express how "healthy" the development scene is for the Xiaomi Redmi 4X. A higher rating indicates available root methods, kernels, and custom ROMs.
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Release kernel source so we can update here status about development
Without Source Code, it's almost Impossible to Make Stable Custom ROMS, And Thus Santoni is getting a Delay in every aspect.
I am new to Xiaomi community. But the thing is I love exploring new tech stuff. I find this community in xda very helpful for the likes of me. I love exploring android stuff, like flashing custom roms, kernels, and stuff. It is also a challenge to me because I am new to MIUI environment. Wish me luck. Happy flashing.
Official source code is released now, coming from a Galaxy S3 and a HTC 10 is a bit disappointing seeing the development scene, Galaxy S3 had a kernel being maintained 5 years (Boeffla Kernel) yet I've seen too many developers ending their project very fast here, yet again the Galaxy S3 community is (or was) way bigger.. I'd love to use a plain and stable AOSP ROM that's maintained often but unfortunately I don't see that on Redmi 4X, so I'm just using a tweaked MIUI and Gabriel kernel which subjectively for me is the best; responsive developer, most customizeable (it has its own Stweaks!), and overall still maintained although slow recently
(No paid shill)
I am looking forward to trying some of the Lineage OS cooked ROMs. The MIUI Stock is kind of sluggish.
I've tried several AOSP based ROMs for about 6 months on this device and I can give my two cents about the development scene.
Mind that, of course, it's all volunteer work and I'm not bashing anyone. I'm just telling my experience as an end user.
1) Lately, most Santoni developers migrated their ROMs to Treble only. This means a couple of things.
- Instead of continuing to use official TWRP and plain Magisk, you'll now have to use an unofficial recovery (because TWRP official doesn't support treble for our device) and a modded version of Magisk.
I don't know about you, but I'd rather put something signed by a recognized developer on my phone, such as the people from TWRP and the Magisk dev, than a random "modded" ZIP from the web. Not only for security, but because it is less prone to bugs. Agree with me?
Yet, the former is now the installation process for most Santoni ROMs.
- If you were lucky enough to use one of those ROMs before the Treble migration, you now have to nuke everything on your phone just to update your system to the Treble version. Fun, right?
You found THE ROM for your phone, and now you're nuking everything again.
- Despite the above mess, I can't say any advantage of using Treble on this device, besides being able to flash GSIs. But flashing GSI means you didn't bother with the original ROM anyway. So why are most ROMs Treble only? It seems just a trendy thing with more inconveniences than benefits for our device.
- Also, some people report the treble ROMs are more buggy. Lose-lose situation?
2) Right now we have many ROMs for Santoni. But when you go choose, you see that many are abandoned and most of the rest are Treble, with the "hacky" installation method.
3) On that mess, you may still find a ROM that suits you and your Santoni. You'll settle, adapt to its bugs or even find some workarounds. Great, right? But after a couple of months the developer can (and most will) completely abandon it, leaving you having to find another ROM to keep updated.
Or he won't abandon it, but he'll decide to switch to Treble only. Oh boy.
So there you go, nuke your whole phone again and start from zero.
Both situations happened even to ROMs with official status.
4) Many ROMs updates will come with the suggestion of "clean flashing". Now, I know this isn't strictly necessary, but in some situations dirty flashing can really cause bugs.
So, good luck reinstalling everything just to update your system. Even with some tool such as TitaniumBackup, it's a tedious process. Even more when you're expected to do it every few weeks.
5) Many ROMs have an erratic update schedule. On Monday the dev ships an update, and you flash it. But on Tuesday he sees he screwed everything because of not testing properly before shipping, and there you are, having to flash a new update. (I hope you didn't do a clean flash yesterday!)
Even when the updates aren't so close to each other, most ROMs have an almost random release schedule.
6) Now this I think is not exclusive to this device, but most ROMs won't notify you when there is an update. You'll have to keep an eye on a Telegram channel or here in the forum, as if you didn't have a life.
Even when they notify you, the update process is manual.
7) There are some bugs I always find on most Santoni Oreo ROMs and after half a year they are still there.
For example, I found video recording to be terrible in every custom ROM I've tried (I've tried most). Bad auto-focus, bad audio, etc. It doesn't matter which camera app you use. Yet it is still there.
Also, voice recording can be extremely quiet on some ROMs (luckly I've found a way to fix it).
Not to mention the battery drain, present everywhere (for which I only found a workaround - not a solution).
So the impression is that the effort is going to the trendy things (Treble) instead of fixing the existing bugs. The months pass and we have the same bugs, or even new ones.
8) Feedback about bug reporting can be non-existent or dismissive.
You report the problem and some developers won't bother. Others will say the problem doesn't even exist.
In a nutshell, there are many AOSP based ROMs for Santoni, but the development isn't as reliable as it could be. The general feeling is that it's too erratic and amateurish. Old bugs are not solved; new ones are introduced; the installation process is made worse for no apparent reason; you are forced to lose many hours reconfiguring your device just to keep it up to date. Also, I have seen no intention to mimic/pre-load some features we have on MIUI.
However, despite all the negatives points I offered, I can't compare the dev scene to other devices. Does Santoni has a better dev scene than some other phones? Probably.
For me, right now, I don't find those ROMs to be worth it. Life is short, and I'm back to MIUI. I'm using Xiaomi.eu, and I'm very pleased in comparison.
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Every single ROM contains bugs, and/or different kinds of bugs, newer or older or same. Or if there are no bugs, there are issues. Someone posted up, also included.
Giving major features example: about battery backup, most/all custom ROMs has cutoff voltage(poweroff at set mV, aprox.) set to 3200mV, but in MIUI it's set to 3400mV. This makes huge differences in battery backup and health,(though it's changeable) and one of the reasons why custom ROMs are known to have much better battery life. Many many ROMs, but in stability, none. There were few errors running all the time in logs, while I tested. ROMs using effects, total stability, and months testing whole other things I can't explain easily here, I found none of the ROMs fully configured to keep pace with MIUI. Stable doesn't mean optimized. What daily users need, they are happy, need not to find out. What power users need, they can go through hard testing and debugging. Our custom ROMs are still in halfway to have real stability and other effects, comparison to stock MIUI. Though they have much newer and upgraded features, they lacks as well.
Stock MIUI, and all based on it, are the best ROMs for our R4X, believe it or not. I've wasted months testing and reporting. And now I'm back to MIUI(xiaomi.eu). Now I'm modifying it for my own needs.
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Every single ROM contains bugs, and/or different kinds of bugs, newer or older or same. Or if there are no bugs, there are issues. Someone posted up, also included. Many many ROMs, but in stability, none. Stock MIUI, and all based on it, are the best ROMs for our R4X, believe it or not. I've wasted months testing and reporting. And now I'm back to MIUI(xiaomi.eu). Now I'm modifying it for my own needs.
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I am actually very happy with Havoc OS based on Oreo.
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I am actually very happy with Havoc OS based on Oreo.
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Good for you.
Pretty good support and all considering it's pretty unpopular phone
Hey guys I was wondering is there any upcoming Oreo roms coming to the G5? Because I was snooping through the G3 forums and found a OREO rom for the G3 not 100% working but they have a rom on there so anything upcoming to the G5 guys? I know it sounds very very demanding but im really excited to use this new update or a new rom to the G5
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Hey guys I was wondering is there any upcoming Oreo roms coming to the G5? Because I was snooping through the G3 forums and found a OREO rom for the G3 not 100% working but they have a rom on there so anything upcoming to the G5 guys? I know it sounds very very demanding but im really excited to use this new update or a new rom to the G5
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No doubt oreo roms are coming up and since I also developed some roms I am 100% sure some oreo custom roms already exists but are disclosed for the developer himself to test and fix the issue. As you might know devs don't like to give users very experimental stuff. But you might have seen the oreo changes under the hood as one of the big things: Project Treble. (See this link for more without having to dig in google itself https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/09/android-8-0-oreo-thoroughly-reviewed/2/#h1 So other devices also have issues like bluetooth, camera and so on not working but I'm sure official oreo roms will come out within a period of 1-2 months as some phones already almost have fixed all oreo bugs like the HTC M10. Don't want to wait? Compile it yourself and contribute to the community if some devs aren't working on it already due to their lives/families I don't know whether LG G5 will reach oreo despite its age we all know how good manufacturer can be look at oneplus their software support for the oneplus 2 for instance. And the LG G5 is officially supported by LineageOS 15.0 if I'm correct. So just a little more patients
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No doubt oreo roms are coming up and since I also developed some roms I am 100% sure some oreo custom roms already exists but are disclosed for the developer himself to test and fix the issue. As you might know devs don't like to give users very experimental stuff. But you might have seen the oreo changes under the hood as one of the big things: Project Treble. (See this link for more without having to dig in google itself https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/09/android-8-0-oreo-thoroughly-reviewed/2/#h1 So other devices also have issues like bluetooth, camera and so on not working but I'm sure official oreo roms will come out within a period of 1-2 months as some phones already almost have fixed all oreo bugs like the HTC M10. Don't want to wait? Compile it yourself and contribute to the community if some devs aren't working on it already due to their lives/families I don't know whether LG G5 will reach oreo despite its age we all know how good manufacturer can be look at oneplus their software support for the oneplus 2 for instance. And the LG G5 is officially supported by LineageOS 15.0 if I'm correct. So just a little more patients
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Thats true. I can wait for the oreo roms to come up, Can't wait for the devs to make one thanks for telling me about whats going on means a lot
Weve got to let sweet rom cookies bake in the kitchen for a bit first
I am thinking about importing this phone but i wanna be sure to buy a phone that is generally well supported regarding custom roms. So far the only custom rom i see for this phone is the xiaomi.eu rom which can only be flashed via fastboot.
So my questions are:
1. Do you think it is worth buying this phone over the oneplus 8 pro (not only regarding specs but also regarding moddability)?
The specs would be nice to have but moddability is more important to me.
2. When do you guys think will major custom roms start to support this phone?
i am coming from the Axon 7 who is known as a "moddable" Phone. There are a lot of Custom Roms for this Device and i am a "flasher" too. But with the Mix 4 this is not needed. The Xiaomi.EU Rom Stable is the best solution i think because i like the MIUI.
i don't think that it is the best "moddable" Phone but it is a great Phone always.
LukSkaze said:
I am thinking about importing this phone but i wanna be sure to buy a phone that is generally well supported regarding custom roms. So far the only custom rom i see for this phone is the xiaomi.eu rom which can only be flashed via fastboot.
So my questions are:
1. Do you think it is worth buying this phone over the oneplus 8 pro (not only regarding specs but also regarding moddability)?
The specs would be nice to have but moddability is more important to me.
2. When do you guys think will major custom roms start to support this phone?
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Some custom ROMS in China supported this phone.But Mi 11 ultra is the best.
I consider myself picky when it comes to roms and for the last 4 years I used something very close to aosp. However I fully agree that xiaomi.eu is a very good and I don't feel any need to change it with anything else. That's even more impressive when you consider what a piece of trash is the original CN rom.
Of course more choice is always welcome, but the one option we have right now is close to flawless.
I've always used custom ROMs, GSI, LineageOS, etc.
I got my Mix4 this week thinking there was no way I was gonna use MIUI, but ... gotta say, once you customise it a bit - it works pretty well!
I got my Mix4 and Pad5 about a month or to ago and im kinda really fed up with miui, on the Pad5 there are a few gsis that work really well, but for the mix4 there unforuneatly isnt any aosp style rom, but i really hope there will be some day, im going tonbe flashing it the instant one comes available.
The opinions on this subject are quite split in the middle... as far as i know, they are working on it to create an AOSP-based alternative. I submitted for testing.
Before the Mix 4, i had my Mix 2 with Lineage almost constantly, since MIUI is just not my taste.
A aosp based rom would be awesome. Where can you submit for testing?
I'm on weekly xiaomi.eu MIUI13 A12 and it is amazing. Came from google pixel 6 pro. that was an unusable phone.
Same as me I just made the switch from the P6P on Wednesday. Got a bit bored with it.
For those asking about custom ROMs if you join the mix 4 official telegram page you'll find the info.
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Same as me I just made the switch from the P6P on Wednesday. Got a bit bored with it.
For those asking about custom ROMs if you join the mix 4 official telegram page you'll find the info.
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Could you please share a link to the Telegram ? Thanks !
On telegram start page use the search function and look for Mix 4 Official
roms are almost ready, devs are working hard for them, almost everything are working. will update again later
I've asked a chinese devloper who called YowLinw,he made Flyme 9 for Xiaomi 11,11 Pro/Ultra even Xiaomi 10S.He hasn't ask me untill now.But I think he will make this ROM.The LineageOS 18 have relesed in this forum.