Hello, I've been thinking of rooting my s22+ but I want to trade my phone back into at&t once it comes time for an upgrade. Will at&t check to see if knox was tripped before they give me the credits towards my new phone?
Ask them. They may not even check or care but it would likely void any insurance coverage with them if you have it. If you can even do it; it's a Snapdragon which are notoriously hard to root safely. Using a 3rd party vendor to unlock the bootloader is a bad plan, a huge security risk.
If it's Snapdragon S906U it can't be rooted or bootloader unlocked
AT&T probably won't care. Un-rooted is not a criteria for trade in. The only things AT&T (and other carriers) care about is physical condition of the device and whether it turns on. Traded in devices are usually sold to refurbishers.
I traded my (knox tripped) note 9 couple years ago with Samsung USA. Went through smoothly.
I had no issue trading a knox tripped S20 with Samsung France.
I locked back the bootloader and installed the official system before sending it
I am planning to trade in tripped s10+ with official firmware and locked bootloader.
Will it effect the trade in for Samsung singapore?
I am confused as trade in value will reduce the price greatly. Did they change policy or something recently?
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hey guys,
I am new to this forum and actually new to android.
I am planning to get samsung galaxy s3 and need your help.
Firstly, I was wondering about warranty. Once I get the device is the warranty handled through carrier or directly samsung? I used to have a blackberry and warranty was handled strictly though carriers. I had a problem, I got blackberry from rogers, unlocked and used it on fido, so when I needed warranty repair/replacement I couldn't because rogers told me that the device wasn't registered on their network and fido could not send it for repairs/replacement because they didn't have that model for sale. It was so stupid. So i was wondering if I get the phone from rogers/bell/telus and use it on different network how would the warranty work? Or if i get it from pacific mall (place where chinese sell electronics) how the warranty will work? Also, what's the implication of warranty if I get the international version?
Secondly, is it difficult to unlock the device? Is it like unlocking Iphone(jailbreak->unlock->no update or lose unlock) or is it like blackberry (input code->unlocked forever)?
Thanks guys in advance
You'd be best off asking here, champ.
I searched and couldn't find a clear answer to my question:
I bought an AT&T HTC One off CL and want to flash the international ROM, however, I am afraid of voiding my warranty...
1) is there any way to restore htc one back to its "locked" state after unlocking, from what I understand it is only possible to change it to "relocked"
2) Does the "relocked" status imply voided warranty? has anyone dealt with AT&T in the past?
I have seen my share of smartphones failing, including my international S3 failing into its 14th month so would really like to keep the warranty intact
Unlocking the bootloader does not necessarily void your warranty in the U.S. But it will probably make your claim a little more difficult. HTC has, in the past, honored warranty when the fault was clearly not the users fault. For example, if your power button gets stuck in the down position and can't be raised. At this time, there is no way to get the phone to show LOCKED again instead of RELOCKED. Now if HTC gets your phone and determines the issue was caused by the user, they will still replace it but charge you for the parts. You will probably have more luck working with AT&T reps in your warranty claim because they aren't trained on how to tell if your phone is unlocked/rooted as long as you aren't obvious about it.
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I searched and couldn't find a clear answer to my question:
I bought an AT&T HTC One off CL and want to flash the international ROM, however, I am afraid of voiding my warranty...
1) is there any way to restore htc one back to its "locked" state after unlocking, from what I understand it is only possible to change it to "relocked"
2) Does the "relocked" status imply voided warranty? has anyone dealt with AT&T in the past?
I have seen my share of smartphones failing, including my international S3 failing into its 14th month so would really like to keep the warranty intact
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AHEM: /Taps mic....
Simply unlocking your bootloader isn't an automatic voiding of a warranty.
I am doing a warranty return myself and the terms I agreed to were the phone must not be physically damaged, or water damaged.
Also HTC THEMSELVES will repair a phone UNDER WARRANTY with a HARDWARE DEFECT despite having an unlocked bootloader.
I have never in my several years of dealing with AT&T had a warranty refused because I rooted my phone.
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Until we get S-off (which is coming soon) the bootloader cannot be made to say "LOCKED" once it has been unlocked.
Sorry for the double post, but thought of one more thing. I had to get my phone warranty swapped for dead pixels. The AT&T reps I dealt with in person tried to convince me that my device wasn't covered because, like you, I bought the phone from an individual. They said warranty are not tranferrable and only belong to the person who bought the phone. This is not true. Warranty is on the device and provided by HTC, not AT&T. They are simply acting as an intermediary to facilitate the exchange. I had a whole lot less trouble dealing with the phone support folks in getting it swapped.
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Sorry for the double post, but thought of one more thing. I had to get my phone warranty swapped for dead pixels. The AT&T reps I dealt with in person tried to convince me that my device wasn't covered because, like you, I bought the phone from an individual. They said warranty are not tranferrable and only belong to the person who bought the phone. This is not true. Warranty is on the device and provided by HTC, not AT&T. They are simply acting as an intermediary to facilitate the exchange. I had a whole lot less trouble dealing with the phone support folks in getting it swapped.
Sent from my Galaxy S4
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Thanks for that piece of information, MOST HELPFUL!
Any idea if there will be a different unlock tool for s-off our if I can unlock and just wait for s-off?
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If past exploits are any indication you're going to need root to gain s-off so go ahead and unlock.
Hello fellow xda users! My name is Eric, and my dad works for samsung. Most kids dont usually mess around with rooting their phones (especially when their dad is a vice president of samsung) but who cares? My Samsung Galaxy s4 was my daily driver since 2013. But I wanted to do so much to my phone that I carelessly rooted it. When I rooted it, it was fine until after a year. It started to lag, the audio started not to work (only would work sometimes), and would often get stuck on the loading screen. So when the S6 Edge comes around, my father and I hope to trade the s4 in for the s6 edge (with jump program from tmobile). BUT they said the warranty was voided and that i they could not trade them it. But that was MY bad so I kinda understand.
But today, I turned in my non rooted (was rooted) s6 edge (that was cracked) to samsung. I wanted to upgrade to an s7 edge (hopefully i dont have the urge to root that one). So by sending my s6 edge to samsung, they repair my screen for free (since i am part of a vice presidents family). But I'm worried they are gonna find out about my root. I've returned my S6 edge to stock rom but the knox warranty is tripped to 0x1. If I get passed samsung without them detecting my root, and my phone is repaired, I can go to Tmobile and trade the s6 edge for a brand new s7 edge. But im also concerned about Tmobile too. Will they find that I have rooted? Or am I fine?
I guess the overall question is: Will Samsung and T-mobile not accept my Phone if its been rooted? (i returned it to stock but knox is tripped)
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I have a S21, T-mobile model, G991U. It has the Snapdragon chip, not the Enyos. Last time I rooted a phone was a Motorola Charge I think it was before I tried jailbreaking the iPhone 4. Back then, manufacturers didn't try as hard to prevent modifications.
Fast forward to today. I have the T-Mobile S21 I want to root. I'll admit I am over my head, and unsure of how to proceed. First thought I could use Magisk Root, but apparently that only works for the Samsung processor. Found myself on SamPwnd's website, but only up to the S20s seem to be supported. The editor's blog here on XDA warns against using RootKing due to intrusive ads/possible malware, so that's out. Eventually found myself on a shady Polish website offering unlock that didn't pan out. It goes without saying I visited https://www.xda-developers.com/root/ and wasn't able to find anything.
Is there a legitimate root for the S21 US edition yet?
No. All S and Note series devices since the S7 have a locked bootloader in the US. Root is impossible unless you pay for a bootloader unlocking service (here - https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...unlock-for-samsung-us-canada-devices.4215101/) and that's not released yet. Expect to pay over $100 for the service, and expect for things to break when you do (Samsung Pay, Knox, etc).
^ This. My last Samsung was an S6 Edge, so I didn't know about the perma-locked bootloader crap on newer models. I'm sending back my preordered S21 because I can't root it and getting a Pixel 5 instead. The S21's hardware is clearly better, but it's not worth dealing that BS on the software side.
So, I've got a couple of Note 3s set up for my kids to use. I need to keep Knox to get the advantages it gives to Boomerang parental controls. I need root for running Xposed modules. Since 3g is going away, I'm scrambling to find newer devices.
I've been looking at the S8 and S9 and their variations. I found some S9+s in good condition for a reasonable price. They are the G965U1 running Android 10 on bootloader v9. My understanding is that they should work with T-Mobile or AT&T for voLTE and also for wifi calling on T-Mobile.
I've been reading a lot, but can't find definite answers to some questions.
Do these factory unlocked phones support voLTE and wifi calling or do they have to be branded by the correct carrier?
Can they be rooted on v9 bootloader without tripping Knox (Extreme Syndicate)?
Does anyone want to test Boomerang parental controls' Knox features on a device with Knox already tripped for me? If The Knox features still work, this would be the very best solution, but the app developer said they can't answer as to whether it will or not. The developer said to just try it. I'm not ready to lay out hundreds for a test that might leave me with a device I have to replace again.
It looks like originally you needed to downgrade to Android 8, but then some also update to Android 9. I prefer to have Android 9 or 10, but have read some saying that the system can't be downgraded from 10, which would leave unlocking the bootloader (and tripping Knox) as the only option for root. So what's the real deal?
I've also looked into the s5 and a few others, but like the idea of something with a newer Android for all comparability. Willing to look at anything that will work, though.
I appreciate any help.
If you trip the Knox e-fuse, Knox is gone forever unless you replace the mobo.
Both 9 and 10 are reasonably secure, 8 and below less so.
The Note 10+ 12gb ram, 4G Snapdragon variant is a gorgeous workhorse of a phone. The display is still one of the very best for color rendering and viewing. New ones can be had for $800 still, used for much less. New ones are loaded with 10, but used ones are likely updated to 11 unless you can confirm otherwise. Exercise caution as there's a lot of misinformation and outright scamming going on with used phones.
As for voLTE support it depends on the carrier and the model. My new unlock N10+ works on AT&T but some models especially older ones may not. Check with your carrier to see what models they support.
Whatever Samsung you choose I would recommend that you keep it stock. You can use a package disabler to easily tone down a stock Samsung... rooting isn't necessary.
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If you trip the Knox e-fuse, Knox is gone forever unless you replace the mobo.
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I understand that tripping the counter cannot be undone. Are you saying that third-party software that uses Knox cannot run after it is tripped, even if the Knox software remains? There seems to be evidence to the contrary.
Both 9 and 10 are reasonably secure, 8 and below less so.
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This is part of why I prefer to use 9 or 10, but other concerns are more important.
As for voLTE support it depends on the carrier and the model. My new unlock N10+ works on AT&T but some models especially older ones may not. Check with your carrier to see what models they support.
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Both carriers list these generic models (S8,S9,etc.) but don't specifically list branded or factory unlocked model numbers. Some people have had problems in the past trying to use an AT&T branded phone, carrier unlocked, on T-Mobile, specifically wifi calling not allowed. My bigger concern is now that 3g is being phased out; will voLTE work on each carrier with a factory-unlocked phone? Is there a way to use wifi calling on a factory-unlocked phone?
Whatever Samsung you choose I would recommend that you keep it stock. You can use a package disabler to easily tone down a stock Samsung... rooting isn't necessary
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How do you propose that I run X posed modules without rooting?
I just know that members here have issues with bank apps on rooted phones. Haven't paid that much attention to that problem but Knox's status is easily available if the banking app wants check it.
My unlocked Note 10+ was added to the AT&T network by simply swapping out the sim from my other AT&T 10+. Boom, that's all I had to do to set it up. Obviously AT&T will need to punch you out a sim card for the new phones. Talk to Advanced Tech support at AT&T to get a firm answer about voLTE support. If it's just the unlocked model of the variant they sell it will likely work.
The only way you can run some apps is to be rooted. So if you're hell bent on a specific app that requires root... can't have your cake and eat it too.
My kids don't need banking apps. They do need to be able to place and receive phone calls after 3g goes away next month.