longtime Nexus / Pixel owner, and sometime in the last several months on this P6 ( or possibly since the beginning of this phone?), my OTA's are failing. They hit the 'resume when phone isn't being used screen', but despite swipe closing apps, laying the phone flat and untouched, plugging in charger, nothing will get the OTA update to continue.
I am rooted, otherwise vanilla A13, but this goes back to A12 versions too.
I am forced to sideload updates each month.
Not sure what's blocking the updates.
Anyone else having this experience?
deusfaux said:
longtime Nexus / Pixel owner, and sometime in the last several months on this P6 ( or possibly since the beginning of this phone?), my OTA's are failing. They hit the 'resume when phone isn't being used screen', but despite swipe closing apps, laying the phone flat and untouched, plugging in charger, nothing will get the OTA update to continue.
I am rooted, otherwise vanilla A13, but this goes back to A12 versions too.
I am forced to sideload updates each month.
Not sure what's blocking the updates.
Anyone else having this experience?
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You're rooted so you're failing the pr-OTA block verifications, thus the OTA is failing, is the likely scenario.
Is that a feature newer to later Pixels or Android versions? Didn't have that issue in the past. Maybe the difference is I could still download and *attempt* to install an OTA even b4 removing root, but now it checks in advance before even downloading? Next OTA I'll test this theory and remove root b4 even starting the download.
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Is that a feature newer to later Pixels or Android versions? Didn't have that issue in the past. Maybe the difference is I could still download and *attempt* to install an OTA even b4 removing root, but now it checks in advance before even downloading? Next OTA I'll test this theory and remove root b4 even starting the download.
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I normally manually flash updates with fastboot.
Only use OTA update on one or two devices.
You have to restore the original boot image.
Run the update and patch the new boot image with Magisk.
Normally the steps are something like this.
1. Open the Magisk app and restore images.
--- Do not reboot ---
2. Open the OTA Updater
- Download and install the OTA -
--- Do not reboot to continue ---
3. Open the Magisk app and install to inactive slot (after OTA).
4. Switch back to the OTA updater and select reboot to continue.
Cheers.
You could use PixelFlasher to make the process a little easier If you don't want to do everything manually each month.
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I got an OTA,
Download and Verified
Rebooted started to install
Then got the Android laying on his back with error under it.
So I held the power button,
the device restarted but no longer offers an OTA update.
My questions are,
Will given time will Google catch on I am running old firmware a offer the OTA again?
Can I force the OTA?
Will it even complete it failed the first time?
or
Should I just give up, find the image, extract it and update manually?
AstroDigital said:
I got an OTA,
Download and Verified
Rebooted started to install
Then got the Android laying on his back with error under it.
So I held the power button,
the device restarted but no longer offers an OTA update.
My questions are,
Will given time will Google catch on I am running old firmware a offer the OTA again?
Can I force the OTA?
Will it even complete it failed the first time?
or
Should I just give up, find the image, extract it and update manually?
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Install could have failed for a variety of reasons. If you are rooted, or have a custom kernel, or are unencrypted, of there is any modification to the system.
You can sideload the OTA, but really? That's as much work as fastboot flashing the system image.
So, if your bootloader is unlocked, I'd suggest that you just fastboot flash the individual .img files, extracted from the system image.
.... I did a manual install, I have not had much luck with OTAs
has anyone lost root updating to current this month? i know my v10 became an ad filled, stock navbar, paper weight after it's last forced update.
I'm curious about this as well.
I finally got around to rooting my Stylo 3 Plus for the first time over the weekend, after closely following the developments in this forum for the past 6 months. It took a lot of trial and error and reflashing of TWRP before I got the timing down right, but I finally got it rooted (using Magisk 15.2).
And of course, luck would have it that within a few hours of my rooting success, a new system update notification (which I had never heard of until now!), pops up and asks me to restart to install it. I am using Titanium Backup to force stop the particular Google service involved, which makes the notification go away and I can reboot without it upgrading. But it always come back within 24 hours or so.
Has anyone installed this update yet (MP45010f) and successfully re-rooted? I'm currently using Magisk 15.2 with systemless hosts, Ad-Away, and Xposed with Greenify & MinMinGuard enabled. I would welcome any advice on how to proceed after the update to restore root and continue using Ad-Away, Xposed, etc. Or even how to disable the update notification for good so I can stay on MP45010e a while longer.
eliaslear said:
has anyone lost root updating to current this month?
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I Installed the 10f update.
On the download page the date was listed as March something.
While updating with LG Bridge, it was listed as Feb 22.
After it was installed (update 10f for LGMP450) the security patch date was listed as Feb 01.
I rooted and installed TWRP (and removed RCTD). Everything seems fine.
I am reverting back to my old install. Because i have made a million little tweaks, that would take forever to redo on a new install. I just wanted to see if everything still works (and it appears it does).
PS - The first time i updated this phone (back around Oct2017) the LG Bridge erased my SD storage. This time it left all of my installed apps in place. Also, this appears to simply be a google security update. No firmware changes from LG.
I thought a system update wouldn't happen if youv done rooted your phone the only way back on the day was to reflash stock ROM to get the update
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I thought a system update wouldn't happen if youv done rooted your phone the only way back on the day was to reflash stock ROM to get the update
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yeah thats what i did was revert back to stock so u can update then i update it then re rooted my phone
if you update using the LG Bridge computer program, it will update a rooted phone. but you will need to reroot afterward.
joetbd said:
I Installed the 10f update.
On the download page the date was listed as March something.
While updating with LG Bridge, it was listed as Feb 22.
After it was installed (update 10f for LGMP450) the security patch date was listed as Feb 01.
I rooted and installed TWRP (and removed RCTD). Everything seems fine.
I am reverting back to my old install. Because i have made a million little tweaks, that would take forever to redo on a new install. I just wanted to see if everything still works (and it appears it does).
PS - The first time i updated this phone (back around Oct2017) the LG Bridge erased my SD storage. This time it left all of my installed apps in place. Also, this appears to simply be a google security update. No firmware changes from LG.
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Thanks for testing this out. If you don't mind me asking, which method do you use to root? And do you also use Xposed?
To anyone else who might know, does everything Magisk- or Xposed-related get removed by the security updates (frameworks, modules, configs, etc)? Just trying to get an idea how many of my modules I should expect to reinstall and configure from scratch if I decide to update from 10e to 10f.
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Esin8785 said:
I thought a system update wouldn't happen if youv done rooted your phone the only way back on the day was to reflash stock ROM to get the update
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Yeah, I thought this was kind of weird too. I've never used LG Bridge to update. The notification just appeared on my phone shortly after rooting.
Is Xposed only for Magisk or can it be used on the rom, if so can I get a link to how to do so
LG Bridge
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Im using Magisk 16.1 (no Xposed) and TWRP 3.2.1
I have not run into any issues.
It appears to simply be a security patch update.
I doubt it should cause any new headaches.
The original method still works to reroot and reinstall TWRP.
Using the LG Bridge program is about as easy as an update can be. You install it on your computer, plug your phone into the computer, and click "update" on the computer program. Its all automatic.
I picked up a second hand Galaxy S8 over the summer with plans to root it and install a custom ROM. I haven't activated it yet, but I was using it on my home WiFi and was notified that it downloaded an OTA update and it would be installed on the next boot. Since then I haven't touched it because I know that some updates can complicate or nullify the ability to root or install a custom bootloader, ROM, etc. I've done some searches on how to prevent the install, but haven't found anything except for how to disable your phone from downloading it to begin with. Now that the update is downloaded to my phone, is there a way to halt it's installation before I move forward with activation and customization?
I think you can let the OTA install, this because an OTA only affects Android OS and not device's bootloader .
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I think you can let the OTA install, this because an OTA only affects Android OS and not device's bootloader .
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Thanks, I've heard different in the past. That OTA updates can lock you out of being able to run certain bootloaders for multiboot and such.
bump for input from others
Downloaded one S8 ota zip and checked. According to install-recovery.sh the command and path to fota package is on cache.
So going into recovery and wiping cache should do it.
edit: then again it might write it back on boot... but does it install it right away? IDK. Factory reset?
Hi, my bootloader unlocked with twrp installed lgv30 keeps complaining about a system update, but each time i choose install it just reboots into twrp.
I presume the install process needs the stock recovery for something? I'm unsure how to proceed, and it will not even let me turn off the notifications!
Correct, OTA updates cannot be applied via TWRP and require stock recovery. Fact is, you don't want to apply the OTA, because it will break the OS anyway, so don't do that.
If you want the update, since these phones are old, chances are there is a TWRP version of the update already... and/or a KDZ. Either of those can be used as well. KDZ will wipe the phone, but TWRP can be "dirty flashed" over what you already have.
In order for anyone to help further, you'd have to tell us what you have to begin with.
As for disabling the notification, you can disable the updater app to stop this from popping up at all. This is detailed in many places as well.., and, again, requires us to know what you're running now.
Thanks for the info, mine is a Stock H930DS using the lastest stock Android 9 for Australia.
I'm not that fussed about the update itself, which I believe to be a minor security patch. Disabling the updater would be great.
I have the unlocked bootloader and TWRP installed, but not magisk, I imagine I could install that again via TWRP, but wanted to get back to as original as possible.
Hi guys, my questions would refer to root privileges with regard to OTA software update...
But firstly...
Do you think that KingoRoot apk constitutes a reliable root service? Do you think one can root his/her device just by installing the app via browser in the phone and launching the root process?
And now the initial question:
Do you think that OTA software update can remove root from the device? Or, does the fact that one can perform OTA software update indicate that there is acutally no root on the phone?
(Device: Samsung Galaxy J5 2016)
Thanks!
Yannikk said:
Hi guys, my questions would refer to root privileges with regard to OTA software update...
But firstly...
Do you think that KingoRoot apk constitutes a reliable root service? Do you think one can root his/her device just by installing the app via browser in the phone and launching the root process?
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Generally no - Android functions such as Verified Boot and dm-verity are supposed to prevent persistent rootkits, unless the bootloader is unlocked. Yes, there are some exploits, but usually these only provide temporary root.
As a general rule I advise against using closed source software, simply because you don't know if there's anything malicious going on under the hood. A safe alternative is Magisk, although this does not utilize any exploits, so you would have to unlock your bootloader and root the "right" way.
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And now the initial question:
Do you think that OTA software update can remove root from the device?
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Yes - in most cases, a OTA update overwrites several partitions on the device, including /boot and /system. This means that after rebooting from an OTA update, root would no longer be available. The workaround for this is the "Patch to inactive slot" function in Magisk on A/B devices - once the update is complete and the device is ready for a reboot, Magisk uses root privileges to patch the new boot image, so that root persists after reboot.
For A only devices such as Samsung, it's a bit more tricky...you'd need to flash a custom recovery after the update and flash Magisk from there.
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Or, does the fact that one can perform OTA software update indicate that there is acutally no root on the phone?
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Not always. In most cases, update_engine conducts various checks to determine whether critical partitons such as /system and /boot are intact and untampered; if they are, the update will fail. This is why Magisk has the "Restore images" function for systemless root - Magisk restores the unpatched boot image written to flash, so that the device may pass these checks. It doesn't always work, and on the opposite end of things, there are some devices that will happily install an OTA update even with modified binaries present on the device.
Thanks for you answer, V0latyle.
Now, I would present a broader picture of an issue that gains my attention...
It happend some time ago, on an older device (Galaxy J5 2016, as mentioned)...
I installed KingoRoot apk (directly via browser in the phone) and launched rooting process... The app signalized that the rooting process has been successful... I did not install any custom ROMs or apps... The phone functioned pretty normally then... However, after few months, out of the blue, my device started behaving strangely... Videos on YT took a great amount of time to load or they lagged after some time... Newsfeed on IG did not work, nor instastories... Browsers were also considerably slower... Approx. 2 months later, when Nougat 7.1.1 came out and after I downloaded this software update (OTA), the phone got somehow faster - YT videos loaded faster or did not lag, IG newsfeed got updated regularly, browsers were not so slow either... On the other hand, yes, some apps still behaved in an unusual way...
Do you have any idea what might have happened in this case?
Thank you very much for any suggestions!