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Dear All,
I have bought POCO F1 in the first sale and I am very happy with its performance. Once there were Android Pie based custom roms, I have enthusiastically tried some of them. I have to thank all developers here for their relentless efforts in bringing the most updated features to our beloved POCO F1. I just have a small problem, I rely a lot on banking apps and all of them complaint that my device is rooted on Android 9 roms. I know that I can hide root by using Magisk but I dont want to use it. I want to know how to remove the root completely rather than hide it. So, Kindly give me some information as to how Android 9 based rom can be completely unrooted.
Unistall Magisk
I have the same issue......my ROM came prerooted.....is there to remove root completely....
You'll have to try different ROMs until you find one that works for you (i'd Start from Pixel experience)
I never had this problem so i have a feeling that you might have missed a step.
(Did you wipe system,data, davlik before flashing?)
(Did you flash an encryption disabler? because you shouldn't)
Just flash a stock Fastboot package. That's the only true reliable way to "unroot" a device.
If your ROM came pre-rooted, it's either a crap ROM or is still being built in userdebug mode for dev purposes. If it's the latter, unrooting is a bad idea and probably won't solve anything anyway. So either accept it, or use a different ROM.
So here is my dilemma :
I really would like Android 9 Pie, (I was thinking LOS 16) for a variety of reasons :
The Google Camera 6.1 is intended for Android 9+, (yes I know BSG is working on making it compatible with 8.x) (I tried it on MIUI 10 based on Android 8.1, and if you install it as an update to his 5.3 version, panoramas and video work. (no normal pictures, no Portrait ) So having LOS 16 would mean not having to wait for Xiaomi to update MIUI to Android 9, and whatever they say, the visual change wont be so striking as with MIUI 9 --> 10, so I don't think that's top on their list.
Digital Wellbeing would be pretty useful, and from what I heard it wont be in MIUI 10 Android 9 (whenever that comes out)
But I'm holding back for a variety of other reasons :
Being on LOS 16 would mean getting Gcam 6.1, but also losing the stock MIUI photo app, that I still use :
Whenever I'm in a situation where it's image processing is more fitting, (night for example; Gcam spurts shaky blurred photos)
For Slo-Motion and Timelapse
The video mode has incredible stabilization that Gcam does not have.
I also use the manual mode for long exposure times etc.
So are there ports of the MIUI cam for other ROMs?
The TWRP build isn't an official one yet, (from what I understood that means it can't handle decryption, so would erase the device?) I'm fine with that but would there be any other possible problems?
My biggest fear actually is that if for whatever reason I want to come back to MIUI, I'm not sure I would be able to do that. I mean, I think I know in theory how to do that, it's just that
The different ROMs you can find here (that's where I downloaded MIUI 10, but I updated from the settings > three dot menu > choose package ; with what I had downloaded) Can those be installed from TWRP, if I want to revert?
So there goes, I haven't written everything bugging me, but these are the main things,
MIUI Cam for LOS? (and other ROMs)
Reverting
I would really like to hear what all of you think.
PocoSteve said:
My biggest fear actually is that if for whatever reason I want to come back to MIUI, I'm not sure I would be able to do that. I mean, I think I know in theory how to do that, it's just that
The different ROMs you can find here (that's where I downloaded MIUI 10, but I updated from the settings > three dot menu > choose package ; with what I had downloaded) Can those be installed from TWRP, if I want to revert?
I would really like to hear what all of you think.
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It's real easy to revert to stock/MIUI. Just use TWRP to backup your entire stock system image before flashing LOS, then if you ever want to go back just restore from there.
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So here is my dilemma :
I really would like Android 9 Pie, (I was thinking LOS 16) for a variety of reasons :
The Google Camera 6.1 is intended for Android 9+, (yes I know BSG is working on making it compatible with 8.x) (I tried it on MIUI 10 based on Android 8.1, and if you install it as an update to his 5.3 version, panoramas and video work. (no normal pictures, no Portrait ) So having LOS 16 would mean not having to wait for Xiaomi to update MIUI to Android 9, and whatever they say, the visual change wont be so striking as with MIUI 9 --> 10, so I don't think that's top on their list.
Digital Wellbeing would be pretty useful, and from what I heard it wont be in MIUI 10 Android 9 (whenever that comes out)
But I'm holding back for a variety of other reasons :
Being on LOS 16 would mean getting Gcam 6.1, but also losing the stock MIUI photo app, that I still use :
Whenever I'm in a situation where it's image processing is more fitting, (night for example; Gcam spurts shaky blurred photos)
For Slo-Motion and Timelapse
The video mode has incredible stabilization that Gcam does not have.
I also use the manual mode for long exposure times etc.
So are there ports of the MIUI cam for other ROMs?
The TWRP build isn't an official one yet, (from what I understood that means it can't handle decryption, so would erase the device?) I'm fine with that but would there be any other possible problems?
My biggest fear actually is that if for whatever reason I want to come back to MIUI, I'm not sure I would be able to do that. I mean, I think I know in theory how to do that, it's just that
The different ROMs you can find here (that's where I downloaded MIUI 10, but I updated from the settings > three dot menu > choose package ; with what I had downloaded) Can those be installed from TWRP, if I want to revert?
So there goes, I haven't written everything bugging me, but these are the main things,
MIUI Cam for LOS? (and other ROMs)
Reverting
I would really like to hear what all of you think.
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Now we have a twrp version that handles the encryption of miui. So, no need to worry about this!
You're overanalyzing things. Switching a ROM is a matter of minutes so it's very easy to go back if you don't like it. About the camera... Tbh, I prefer Gcam for its wonderful low light shots and much sharper photography in general. I'll miss slow motion and the manual mode but it's not that big a deal for me anyway.
you dont have to use custom roms, i am myself using miui rom as it is the best for me right now. have tried others rom but always back to miui, i flash globe miui rom which has some of the bloat removed and its pretty good.
I would suggest to try the roms you are looking for. Try miui9, Miui10 , LOS16 whatever and get the one which fits the best for your needs. That's the way I did. I am no on los16 and it's damn good. I like the pie stock and Volte is working. Now the Gcam mods are working since the last update even the new 6.1 is working. And due to working TWRP you can switch roms in minutes....
sjhotwings said:
you dont have to use custom roms, i am myself using miui rom as it is the best for me right now. have tried others rom but always back to miui, i flash globe miui rom which has some of the bloat removed and its pretty good.
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If I want digital wellbeing or any other pie-specific feature, I *do* need a custom ROM as MIUI isn't on pie yet.
is there a way to take long exposure photos with the L0s 16?
well i wanted to ask the same thing .. is it worth it to change between roms .. i mean do the touch and keyboard improves on other unofficial roms ?!
I would suggest stick to the stock for now. As pie build is just around the corner. And after that we can expect gcam to work fine. There would also be fix for touch sensitivity in the stock update.
Now, before switching to poco I was on custom roms for more than a year as stock was filled with bugs(zuk z2). And the most annoying drawback that I faced was that every now and then some app would detect root and won't work. This happens even with magisk safety net and magisk hide. So using a phone with that issue as a daily driver is really annoying. Apart from that for a custom rom there are monthly updates which always recommend clean flash although you can get away with dirty flashed but still. One positive side is stock android experience is always amazing and nothing can replace that. In my opinion stock android feels way more polished and classy compares to MIUI or any other non aosp based rom. But if you want to use your phone as your daily driver then I would suggest you to stick to stock rom for now at least.
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Now we have a twrp version that handles the encryption of miui. So, no need to worry about this!
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can you please tell me what version is that, cause I face the same encryption problem and it's a pain to change ROMs and losing my data all the time
GrecoNeoV said:
can you please tell me what version is that, cause I face the same encryption problem and it's a pain to change ROMs and losing my data all the time
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This:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/poco-f1/development/recovery-twrp-3-2-3-decryption-t3853004/page26
However, official twrp is expected soon!
@Lupin The Third thank you dear sir, you are a life savior ?
Gift to family member, so warranty not much of an issue, and can go back to stock if they don't like it.
Talking about general stability, and actual improvements over stock miui (and software-nerfed camera?), should I flash latest LOS & GCam before I give it or should I leave it stock?
I think for a non techie you should just leave it as it is..
Easy updates..
And gcam probably would work after some stable updates..
If not use the one V1a work nicely on stock rom except for video
For a non techie? Strictly no. It's not stable. Also videos in gcam aren't stabilized so they appear low in quality.
erclalle said:
Gift to family member, so warranty not much of an issue, and can go back to stock if they don't like it.
Talking about general stability, and actual improvements over stock miui (and software-nerfed camera?), should I flash latest LOS & GCam before I give it or should I leave it stock?
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Hell NOOOO. Just leave it as it is.
For a non-techie? No.
In some devices LOS is perfect. For our device, it needs a bit more maturation. It isn't a bad ROM, the devs are geniuses. But MIUI is far better to a newbie and even a techie. I tried LOS and reverted to MIUI.
Maybe Xiaomi.eu's MIUI could be better to a newbie user.
erclalle said:
Gift to family member, so warranty not much of an issue, and can go back to stock if they don't like it.
Talking about general stability, and actual improvements over stock miui (and software-nerfed camera?), should I flash latest LOS & GCam before I give it or should I leave it stock?
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At this moment, NO. As another member said, LOS is a great ROM and my Nexus 4 has amazing battery and performance on it. But for POCO F1, it is not yet that perfect. In course of time, it will be. But for a non-techie, the stock ROM is better till then.
Dan_Jacques said:
For a non-techie? No.
In some devices LOS is perfect. For our device, it needs a bit more maturation. It isn't a bad ROM, the devs are geniuses. But MIUI is far better to a newbie and even a techie. I tried LOS and reverted to MIUI.
Maybe Xiaomi.eu's MIUI could be better to a newbie user.
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Hi dude sorry for disturbing yout but i would like to ask yout something
Is it possible to have TWRP installed and flash MIUI oficial ROMS from twrp? Should i use something called lazyflasher?
Thanks in advance :fingers-crossed:
I'd recommend debloating global rom, or flashing xiaomi.eu rom. You could install gcam as a secondary camera.
Leave it on MIUI imo. They will get regular updates and security patches from Xiaomi.
Bloatware removal is a non-issue for a non-techie.
They will probably find the on-board apps quite useful like qr code reader, compass, notes, screen recorder etc.
I would update via OTA to latest MIUI, factory reset it and allow them to set-up as new.
Osobuke said:
Hi dude sorry for disturbing yout but i would like to ask yout something
Is it possible to have TWRP installed and flash MIUI oficial ROMS from twrp? Should i use something called lazyflasher?
Thanks in advance :fingers-crossed:
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You can install official miui through twrp, but it has to be full rom not ota, if you want to install ota through twrp too then you need orangefox twrp as normal twrp doesn't support ota updates only full rom flashing. Hope this helps.
Let the rom as stock. You can easily remove bloatware with adb.
A big NO for non tech people, miui is preety decent and easy to use and updates reguraly with security patches
First of all : I know that this is already explained a hundred times in different topics created around poco's forums. Still, it's not very clear yet to me.
I used to like the MIUI skin and it's features, but lately, because of the bad development in global stable rom and a lot of delay in the updates, I'm planning on going to custom roms.
Last time I used a custom rom was at time of cyanogenmod 13, in my old Moto g (falcon). In that time, I didn't used bank apps, I used to like root apps, root wasn't a problem to banks/Netflix/other apps, my camera didn't had some features like the blur, infrared camera and such things. And that's exact my point. I'm afraid of those things in custom rom: safetypass on bank apps, problems in buggy camera, I'm not used to this "dfe", it's not very clear how to flash,when flash, etc. I'm afraid to lost my IR, I don't want to flash magisk also, but sounds like a very must thing in custom roms lately. I'm atraid to get play store uncertified also.
I like too many features, but I don't plan to use a rom with a lot, because I want a bug free and with good battery and performance too, so I'm going to a stable rom.
Should I use a custom rom or stay on MIUI global stable?
Yes Flash A Custom Rom!
It honestly all depends on you, however, if you are concerned with stability I wouldn't be. Poco's root community is really large and most of the custom ROMs that have been around for a while are really smooth. I personally despised using MIUI, it wouldn't have even been that bad had Xiaomi fixed their gigantic screw up with the notification system. Not to mention unnecessary bloat is on the entire OS and its not really much of a stock Android experience. When I buy new phones I only buy ones that can be rooted and romed because thats essential to me. I currently use the Pixel Experience Rom and I have found it to be the best. While the performance of the rom is on par with the other roms available for this device, its animations are much more fluid. Plus the google camera that comes preinstalled in it works flawlessly, and you can always flash the xiaomi camera zip if you want those features. However, if you want more customizability I would opt for another rom like Reserrection Remix.
When it comes to DFE from my experience you don't have to flash it, you would just have to enter in you passcode each time on boot. Not flashing DFE however can cause problems when you want to flash new updates as the device may still be encrytped. Plus the DFE zip includes magisk so you will pass safetynet. Im able to use most banking apps and netflix just fine on my phone. Plus if you are on MIUI right now and have updated to the latest you probably also have L1, which will transfer over to any custom rom you flash. Heres a typical flash process:
1. Backup Data
2. Wipe everthing on the phone except internal storage and format data if needed
3. Flash the rom zip
4. Flash GApps if needed
5. Flash DFE (Which includes magisk)
ranarbot said:
It honestly all depends on you, however, if you are concerned with stability I wouldn't be. Poco's root community is really large and most of the custom ROMs that have been around for a while are really smooth. I personally despised using MIUI, it wouldn't have even been that bad had Xiaomi fixed their gigantic screw up with the notification system. Not to mention unnecessary bloat is on the entire OS and its not really much of a stock Android experience. When I buy new phones I only buy ones that can be rooted and romed because thats essential to me. I currently use the Pixel Experience Rom and I have found it to be the best. While the performance of the rom is on par with the other roms available for this device, its animations are much more fluid. Plus the google camera that comes preinstalled in it works flawlessly, and you can always flash the xiaomi camera zip if you want those features. However, if you want more customizability I would opt for another rom like Reserrection Remix.
When it comes to DFE from my experience you don't have to flash it, you would just have to enter in you passcode each time on boot. Not flashing DFE however can cause problems when you want to flash new updates as the device may still be encrytped. Plus the DFE zip includes magisk so you will pass safetynet. Im able to use most banking apps and netflix just fine on my phone. Plus if you are on MIUI right now and have updated to the latest you probably also have L1, which will transfer over to any custom rom you flash. Heres a typical flash process:
1. Backup Data
2. Wipe everthing on the phone except internal storage and format data if needed
3. Flash the rom zip
4. Flash GApps if needed
5. Flash DFE (Which includes magisk)
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Thanks for the information. Tomorrow I'll unlock my BL, and flash probably the PE, or AOSiP. That was very clarifying to me. Just one more question: play store is certified? Because in my last Xiaomi, except for Xiaomi.eu (I didn't had roms like LOS ir RR, just MIUI based), even the MIUI based roms had problems with play store.
FernandoJjr said:
Thanks for the information. Tomorrow I'll unlock my BL, and flash probably the PE, or AOSiP. That was very clarifying to me. Just one more question: play store is certified? Because in my last Xiaomi, except for Xiaomi.eu (I didn't had roms like LOS ir RR, just MIUI based), even the MIUI based roms had problems with play store.
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yes the play store is certified
You can install the xiaomi.eu ROM miui based also, best miui experiencie in my opinion
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Hi everyone. I still use this amazing phone. Currently on latest official firmware android 12 with bootloader unlocked. I decided since I have never formatted it, to now format and reinstall the best firmware / kernel etc cleanly to get it back to it's full potential.
I'm looking for recommendations on android 12 roms, any kernel that increases performance and possibly overclock, and any other tweaks for sound/cameras/software features from newer devices you would recommend.
Also I have a couple of everyday apps I wish to use (namely banking and netflix) that are affected by the unlocked bootloader and won't support my phone correctly. Any way to rectify that without locking the bootloader? If not, if I lock the bootloader can I still use a tweaked rom/kernel?
Thanks in advance!
Is this board dead already?
lowrider82 said:
Is this board dead already?
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I don't know, but I think everyone is moving from forum's to Telegram. At least when it comes to custom roms. I wont use Telegram because it wants me to set my phone number, and I can't do that.
Last time I used custom roms was when I had a Nexus 6. Compared to my Nexus, flashing for our Oneplus is a mess. For flashing custom roms, for some roms you need to be on Oxygen 11 and for some you need to be on on Oxygen 12 (which I'm still waiting for). So before choosing what rom you want to try, one needs to decide if you should update to Oxygen 12 or not. Some roms based on android 12 you need to flash from Oxygen 11 or you will loose Widevine L1 if you are unlucky. This is not a problem if you don't care about Widevine.
As you, I want a rom based on android 12 as rom based on android 13 is still under development and might be buggy. I want it to be as stable it can be... The rom I am planing to try first is Flamingo OS 12. This one unfortunately does not have a thread on xda, and conversations is only over Telegram. Here is a guide if you want to try it.
I would not recommend to use any custom kernel as you wont get any help from developer (if you see a bug in the rom), and I doubt there is any gain of using custom kernels on a custom rom.
Sorry to not having any recommendations for you!
Thanks..its sad xda is so dead nowadays. I think I'll just factory reset and keep the official android 12 rom which I already have installed. Do you have any tweaks to propose for sound or camera or anything that can be installed as an addon to the existing rom?
lowrider82 said:
Thanks..its sad xda is so dead nowadays. I think I'll just factory reset and keep the official android 12 rom which I already have installed. Do you have any tweaks to propose for sound or camera or anything that can be installed as an addon to the existing rom?
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No sorry, no tweaks. I have mostly seen people ask to install Oneplus camera when they are on custom roms as that seems to be the best camera for Oneplus phones. So best is to keep that. Second best camera app I guess is Google Camera app.
For sound I have always disabled any extra sound features (like Dolby Atmos) mainly because I dont want any equalized sound coming from my phone to my car stereo. I already have a DSP for equalizer settings in my car for that. I have tried some equalizer apps for fun but none seems to work for our phone. At least not sound over bluetooth. Is sound on OOS 12 worse than on OOS 11?
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No sorry, no tweaks. I have mostly seen people ask to install Oneplus camera when they are on custom roms as that seems to be the best camera for Oneplus phones. So best is to keep that. Second best camera app I guess is Google Camera app.
For sound I have always disabled any extra sound features (like Dolby Atmos) mainly because I dont want any equalized sound coming from my phone to my car stereo. I already have a DSP for equalizer settings in my car for that. I have tried some equalizer apps for fun but none seems to work for our phone. At least not sound over bluetooth. Is sound on OOS 12 worse than on OOS 11?
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I don't know to be honest, it sounds the same to me but I am not so nitpicky. OOS12 is fine in my opinion. Some minor bugs that I think are due to having it dirty flashed over OOS11 (e.g. after most restarts I need to re-enable the automatic orientation toggle for the screen). Battery is better though. I'll stick to it with official camera app and google camera. Most likely lock the bootloader again to avoid issues with the apps that now don't work due to the unlocked. Keep it for a few more months and then move to a new phone. It has been a great device so far.
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I don't know to be honest, it sounds the same to me but I am not so nitpicky. OOS12 is fine in my opinion. Some minor bugs that I think are due to having it dirty flashed over OOS11 (e.g. after most restarts I need to re-enable the automatic orientation toggle for the screen). Battery is better though. I'll stick to it with official camera app and google camera. Most likely lock the bootloader again to avoid issues with the apps that now don't work due to the unlocked. Keep it for a few more months and then move to a new phone. It has been a great device so far.
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I would wholeheartedly suggest trying custom ROM. Derpfest is still very actively updated ROM with a lot of customization possibilities. And the community on Telegram is very active. Also derpfest also includes Oneplus Camera app by default as well as necessary Gapps.
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I would wholeheartedly suggest trying custom ROM. Derpfest is still very actively updated ROM with a lot of customization possibilities. And the community on Telegram is very active. Also derpfest also includes Oneplus Camera app by default as well as necessary Gapps.
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The issue is that with unlocked bootloader I can't use some important everyday apps like bank / netflix properly. In any case can you share a link so I see what you are referring to? Also how do I participate in its telegram? Lastly what makes you recommend it? Any new tweaks / benefits it offers vs stock?
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The issue is that with unlocked bootloader I can't use some important everyday apps like bank / netflix properly. In any case can you share a link so I see what you are referring to? Also how do I participate in its telegram? Lastly what makes you recommend it? Any new tweaks / benefits it offers vs stock?
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Ok, so with bank, it's easy. In Custom Rom you can just easily install magisk and after that, just use a mode to hide the unlock from Gpay and voila! Everything works. I have the Gpay, Revolut and no one knows ****
With Netflix it's even easier. With the same hiding method, you can hide the unlock from all necessary apps, like Netflix or games or whatever, plus if you don't do hardcore changes in the system Netflix will still show UHD content, because of the Widevine L1. To be fair, i'm recommending the custom ROM, because i'm sick and tired of the OOS unfinished and buggy software. It started in A11 and it continues in A12. Looks like the last normal Oxygen was A10, so there's no other choice as to revert to custom. You can read a bit about the differences between OOS and custom Roms here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/guide-a11-rom-picking-guide-2nd-october-2021.4341961/
The rom i've decided to continue on myself is Derpfest, as it's suggested as the most battery stable one with lots of customization and integrated good practices from OOS. The install process is a bit funky but you can try the telegram here: https://web.telegram.org/k/#@DerpFestOP7Series. Ask your questions, read a bit, and when you will feel confident, you can try to install Custom ROM yourself. DON'T FORGET ABOUT BACKUPS!!!!!!!
If something, we can chat or discord and do the stuff together, if you'd like.
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Ok, so with bank, it's easy. In Custom Rom you can just easily install magisk and after that, just use a mode to hide the unlock from Gpay and voila! Everything works. I have the Gpay, Revolut and no one knows ****
With Netflix it's even easier. With the same hiding method, you can hide the unlock from all necessary apps, like Netflix or games or whatever, plus if you don't do hardcore changes in the system Netflix will still show UHD content, because of the Widevine L1. To be fair, i'm recommending the custom ROM, because i'm sick and tired of the OOS unfinished and buggy software. It started in A11 and it continues in A12. Looks like the last normal Oxygen was A10, so there's no other choice as to revert to custom. You can read a bit about the differences between OOS and custom Roms here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/guide-a11-rom-picking-guide-2nd-october-2021.4341961/
The rom i've decided to continue on myself is Derpfest, as it's suggested as the most battery stable one with lots of customization and integrated good practices from OOS. The install process is a bit funky but you can try the telegram here: https://web.telegram.org/k/#@DerpFestOP7Series. Ask your questions, read a bit, and when you will feel confident, you can try to install Custom ROM yourself. DON'T FORGET ABOUT BACKUPS!!!!!!!
If something, we can chat or discord and do the stuff together, if you'd like.
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Yes I'd like that! If you are willing to help I'd be grateful. Shall we discord this weekend at some point? Sat?
lowrider82 said:
Yes I'd like that! If you are willing to help I'd be grateful. Shall we discord this weekend at some point? Sat?
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I dunno about this weekend, but yeah, I can help you. Here's my discord: UltimatE_FatE#5506.
Just small additional note I'm gonna try to flash this custom ROM myself first in these following days and test it out profoundly. But don't worry, if we will not like the custom ROM, i'll show how to revert back to OG OOS and how to make it not so sucky.
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I dunno about this weekend, but yeah, I can help you. Here's my discord: UltimatE_FatE#5506.
Just small additional note I'm gonna try to flash this custom ROM myself first in these following days and test it out profoundly. But don't worry, if we will not like the custom ROM, i'll show how to revert back to OG OOS and how to make it not so sucky.
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Ok sounds good. One thing I'm concerned, I used to have magisk on official rom but netflix/bank app still didn't work as intended... Are you sure it works with that rom?
In the meantime I'll backup everything to be ready for the procedure.
check here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/f/oneplus-7t-pro-regular-mclaren-roms-dev.9335/