Hi guys,
I am about to exchange my note 2 with z ultra amd some added cash ? Should I go forward ? Comparing the battery life after 4.3 update is it better, a little better or a ton better ?
Hard to tell what your needs are but I came from Note 1 to Note 2 then Xperia Z Ultra and aside from some things the spen can do, I couldnt be happier!
This thing is a beast but I wanted the extra large display so that made it a great option for me.
So it all depends on your needs..like for example why are you not considering the Note 3? Think is too small of a jump display wise?
shaolin95 said:
Hard to tell what your needs are but I came from Note 1 to Note 2 then Xperia Z Ultra and aside from some things the spen can do, I couldnt be happier!
This thing is a beast but I wanted the extra large display so that made it a great option for me.
So it all depends on your needs..like for example why are you not considering the Note 3? Think is too small of a jump display wise?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
yuo I kinda like to draw and I like added pixel. m very picky on display. I just never thought of note 3 as it didnt have the 'wow' factor for me. plus somehow the pixel are still visible to me. I love big working space but the only thing thats keeping me from buying it is the battery life. how good is it afer 4.3 update ?
Honestly, for battery life I cannot really help as I am most of the time connected to power and the few times I let it run a bit low on power, I didnt pay attention to how long it lasted but of course, I will never feel as confident as when I had my Note 2 and 4 extra batteries
Still, the Stamina mode is very nice in my opinion but hopefully someone else will provide feedback on battery life.
Battery life it's excellent in my experience: I use 2x Battery (search it into the Play Store), and I get two full days of usage. In line with my previous Galaxy Note. But for the rest, believe me, there is no comparison: the Ultra is totally in another league.
Sent from my C6833 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
Pannam said:
yuo I kinda like to draw and I like added pixel. m very picky on display. I just never thought of note 3 as it didnt have the 'wow' factor for me. plus somehow the pixel are still visible to me. I love big working space but the only thing thats keeping me from buying it is the battery life. how good is it afer 4.3 update ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well if you don't mind the absence of pressure sensitve stylus, the z ultra will still cater you fine with its pencil sensitive screen. But better prepare it with screen protector (the anti glare one) so those shallow scratches won't bother you too much. Or if you have some extra dough you could buy the z ultra stylus or the adonit stylus.
The battery life for a non intense internet will have you around 6-7.5 hours of screen time. I have tried it by taking a note in evernote and the battery reaches 50% with 4 hours of screen time which can be calculated to be around 8 hours tops if i continue doing the same thing, plus i was using bluetooh mouse and keyboard too. So if you really focused while you're drawing, then the battery will not be a concern most of the time. Just don't try to browse with mobile data too often. It will drain the battery in 5 hours tops.
Plus the only concern with non removable battery is only after you use the phone for more than 2 years, but if you can take care of your battery (i.e don't charge it while it's hot or don't charge after its fully depleted), 3 years of lifetime is not impossible. In the mean time those slim sony powerbank will certainly help you to extend battery life should you want it.
So yeah nothing to worry i guess.
Sent from my C6802 using xda app-developers app
I would do it. I just came from the note 2 and not going to go back. Everything the Samsung has the Sony has way better. Sony quality is awesome.
Sent from my C6806 using XDA Premium HD app
Oh and the Sony stock ROM is the best I have ever tried stock. I dont feel the need to keep looking for Custom Roms as It was with my Note 2..then again, this thing is a beast so nothing can make it seem laggy lol
Go for it mate!
The following is just my own personal opinion and my experience using the z ultra...originally i had a note 2 and the moved over to the z ultra...after 3 months i sold the z ultra and bought a note 3 which iam very happy with. The main reasons why i decided to switch to the note 3 are as follows;
1) At first i didn't really mind the size, in fact the main reason i bought the phone in the first place was due to size. My main use of a smartphone are media consumption first and communication second. although the z ultra is a lot more portable than some 7 inch tablets, its still pretty big for a phone. often times i found my self getting frustrated due to not being able to fit it properly in some of my pockets. Unless i went out with a bag, i had to think carefully about the types of clothes i had to wear just so i can carry the z ultra. The note 3 seems to provide a big enough screen while not compromising portability, now i don't have to dress for the phone anymore.
2) the screen is not as good as i had thought. Now i have to reiterate this is my own opinion: after using the z ultra i found that the screen had some flaws which i just couldn't get over. The black levels are poor compared to other LCD like the htc one and LG G pro. When looking at the screen in bright ambient lighting you wont notice how poor the black levels are, its only in dimly lit light that it becomes evident, now i use my phone a lot in a dimly lit bedroom so it becomes an issue. The blacks also wash out becoming milky white if you view the phone off angle, the color does not shift, only the color of the blacks...this issue is not as apparent as like the xperia z. but its still far worse compared to other flagships out there.
The screen is very bright even at the lowest setting, i had to use a screen adjuster app just to get the screen to be comfortable to use at night.
X-reality is pure garbage, sony replaced bravia engine with x reality, why they did this i will never understand as x-reality brings along image sharpening and grain which makes videos look unwatchable. But turning it off makes the screen look washed out. I compared every phone i had to the z ultra without x-reality and the z ultra was the worse of the bunch. One color the z ultra the z ultra seemed to have trouble producing accurately was green, compared to other high end phones, any green that's not dark green always appeared to look yellowish green.
One issue i found annoying when viewing pictures and videos was that the screen had poor gamma levels. skin tones appear too bright for what they should be and shadows appear too dark. watching dark scenes was just unbearable as all the shadowy areas would loose all detail and look all black, while the faces especially for light skinned people would look pale white. other phones would show details in the shadows and skin tones would be full of color.
3) sound quality is pretty bad, coming from the note 2 i thought the speaker sound wouldn't bother me, after a few weeks it become annoying as the z ultra has the worst external speaker on any smartphone i have used.
4)The camera is complete utter crap...now i dont take photos much, and i didnt think it would be an issue, but the few times i did take pictures always thought of the note 2 which i had sold off to buy the z ultra. If you like taking picture, do not buy the z ultra.
5) the sony UI is very beautiful and snappy, but after using lg pro, htc one x and note 2 and 3 i found it the least functional especially when it comes to calling and messaging. don't have time to elaborate on this one.
6) The font and icons are so tiny, this for some people wont be an issue but it was for me. even though you can view more content on the z ultra screen, everything is so shrunk down that reading on the thing becomes straining on the eyes. even when you increase the font size in the settings menu, some apps still show font too small.
After a few months i just could not stand these flaws and sold the phone to buy note 3. So far i couldn't be happier. I can carry the phone with no issue, the screen is vibrant and clear with multiple modes to choose from. skin tones look better and shadows are represented accurately. sound quality is vastly improved, the list could keep going on.
trellva25 said:
The following is just my own personal opinion and my experience using the z ultra...originally i had a note 2 and the moved over to the z ultra...after 3 months i sold the z ultra and bought a note 3 which iam very happy with. The main reasons why i decided to switch to the note 3 are as follows;
1) At first i didn't really mind the size, in fact the main reason i bought the phone in the first place was due to size. My main use of a smartphone are media consumption first and communication second. although the z ultra is a lot more portable than some 7 inch tablets, its still pretty big for a phone. often times i found my self getting frustrated due to not being able to fit it properly in some of my pockets. Unless i went out with a bag, i had to think carefully about the types of clothes i had to wear just so i can carry the z ultra. The note 3 seems to provide a big enough screen while not compromising portability, now i don't have to dress for the phone anymore.
2) the screen is not as good as i had thought. Now i have to reiterate this is my own opinion: after using the z ultra i found that the screen had some flaws which i just couldn't get over. The black levels are poor compared to other LCD like the htc one and LG G pro. When looking at the screen in bright ambient lighting you wont notice how poor the black levels are, its only in dimly lit light that it becomes evident, now i use my phone a lot in a dimly lit bedroom so it becomes an issue. The blacks also wash out becoming milky white if you view the phone off angle, the color does not shift, only the color of the blacks...this issue is not as apparent as like the xperia z. but its still far worse compared to other flagships out there.
The screen is very bright even at the lowest setting, i had to use a screen adjuster app just to get the screen to be comfortable to use at night.
X-reality is pure garbage, sony replaced bravia engine with x reality, why they did this i will never understand as x-reality brings along image sharpening and grain which makes videos look unwatchable. But turning it off makes the screen look washed out. I compared every phone i had to the z ultra without x-reality and the z ultra was the worse of the bunch. One color the z ultra the z ultra seemed to have trouble producing accurately was green, compared to other high end phones, any green that's not dark green always appeared to look yellowish green.
One issue i found annoying when viewing pictures and videos was that the screen had poor gamma levels. skin tones appear too bright for what they should be and shadows appear too dark. watching dark scenes was just unbearable as all the shadowy areas would loose all detail and look all black, while the faces especially for light skinned people would look pale white. other phones would show details in the shadows and skin tones would be full of color.
3) sound quality is pretty bad, coming from the note 2 i thought the speaker sound wouldn't bother me, after a few weeks it become annoying as the z ultra has the worst external speaker on any smartphone i have used.
4)The camera is complete utter crap...now i dont take photos much, and i didnt think it would be an issue, but the few times i did take pictures always thought of the note 2 which i had sold off to buy the z ultra. If you like taking picture, do not buy the z ultra.
5) the sony UI is very beautiful and snappy, but after using lg pro, htc one x and note 2 and 3 i found it the least functional especially when it comes to calling and messaging. don't have time to elaborate on this one.
6) The font and icons are so tiny, this for some people wont be an issue but it was for me. even though you can view more content on the z ultra screen, everything is so shrunk down that reading on the thing becomes straining on the eyes. even when you increase the font size in the settings menu, some apps still show font too small.
After a few months i just could not stand these flaws and sold the phone to buy note 3. So far i couldn't be happier. I can carry the phone with no issue, the screen is vibrant and clear with multiple modes to choose from. skin tones look better and shadows are represented accurately. sound quality is vastly improved, the list could keep going on.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
1) I dont dress for my phone...never have. The Notes are not small enough to fit that good with what I wear anyway so i always carry them so no big deal for me.
2) To me the screen was the biggest surprise on how beautiful it looks. I was afraid of black levels coming from a long line of Samsung phones but the Pros far outweight the cons.
For someone so picky about the display its odd how you seem to "not see" the issues with the note 3 screen...
Yes x-reality creates too many issues for some media. Would be better to have options for it but all the stuff you mention I just dont buy it. Your opinion it may be and I disagree totally.
3) Really..comparing phone speaker qualities....oh boy. In any case, the less clarify of the speaker is of course due to the water proof nature of the phone. You cant get something for nothing in real life.
4) The camera is utter crap...mhm...actually is not. In low light it is pretty lame, which goes for most many phones but for me to call a phone camera utter crap means I am into photography (which I am) so I use a real camera for my photos so the phone camera is good enough for what I will use it.
To correct your statement "If you like taking pictures, do not buy a phone, buy a real CAMERA!"
But I am sure the Note A7R with FF sensor is much better...
5) Of course you wont ellaborate...I wanted to see what exactly you were going to claim here is as the issue since the Sony ROM has been one of the most impressive things I have found after moving from Samsung. Just clean and smooth without needing Custom Roms.
6) Straining on the eyes? Really...you got some eye problems, go to an eye doctor, dont blame the phone.
So lets see by your logic, you want a phone with a BIG screen to resize the Icons to fit the same lame quantity of Icons and things that will fit if the screen was smaller thus not really taking advantage of the bigger screen?
That is actually one of the greatest things about the Sony Rom even compared to Googles version of the Xperia.
So after a few months you sold the phone and yet you hang around the Xperia Z Ultra forum? Interesting behavior indeed...
To each its own..but the Note 4 would have to be DAMN good for me to leave the Xperia Z Ultra...that is how GOOD and impressive this phone is.
The following is just my own personal opinion and my experience using the z ultra...originally i had a note 2 and the moved over to the z ultra...after 3 months i sold the z ultra and bought a note 3 which iam very happy with. The main reasons why i decided to switch to the note 3 are as follows;
1) At first i didn't really mind the size, in fact the main reason i bought the phone in the first place was due to size. My main use of a smartphone are media consumption first and communication second. although the z ultra is a lot more portable than some 7 inch tablets, its still pretty big for a phone. often times i found my self getting frustrated due to not being able to fit it properly in some of my pockets. Unless i went out with a bag, i had to think carefully about the types of clothes i had to wear just so i can carry the z ultra. The note 3 seems to provide a big enough screen while not compromising portability, now i don't have to dress for the phone anymore.
2) the screen is not as good as i had thought. Now i have to reiterate this is my own opinion: after using the z ultra i found that the screen had some flaws which i just couldn't get over. The black levels are poor compared to other LCD like the htc one and LG G pro. When looking at the screen in bright ambient lighting you wont notice how poor the black levels are, its only in dimly lit light that it becomes evident, now i use my phone a lot in a dimly lit bedroom so it becomes an issue. The blacks also wash out becoming milky white if you view the phone off angle, the color does not shift, only the color of the blacks...this issue is not as apparent as like the xperia z. but its still far worse compared to other flagships out there.
The screen is very bright even at the lowest setting, i had to use a screen adjuster app just to get the screen to be comfortable to use at night.
X-reality is pure garbage, sony replaced bravia engine with x reality, why they did this i will never understand as x-reality brings along image sharpening and grain which makes videos look unwatchable. But turning it off makes the screen look washed out. I compared every phone i had to the z ultra without x-reality and the z ultra was the worse of the bunch. One color the z ultra the z ultra seemed to have trouble producing accurately was green, compared to other high end phones, any green that's not dark green always appeared to look yellowish green.
One issue i found annoying when viewing pictures and videos was that the screen had poor gamma levels. skin tones appear too bright for what they should be and shadows appear too dark. watching dark scenes was just unbearable as all the shadowy areas would loose all detail and look all black, while the faces especially for light skinned people would look pale white. other phones would show details in the shadows and skin tones would be full of color.
3) sound quality is pretty bad, coming from the note 2 i thought the speaker sound wouldn't bother me, after a few weeks it become annoying as the z ultra has the worst external speaker on any smartphone i have used.
4)The camera is complete utter crap...now i dont take photos much, and i didnt think it would be an issue, but the few times i did take pictures always thought of the note 2 which i had sold off to buy the z ultra. If you like taking picture, do not buy the z ultra.
5) the sony UI is very beautiful and snappy, but after using lg pro, htc one x and note 2 and 3 i found it the least functional especially when it comes to calling and messaging. don't have time to elaborate on this one.
6) The font and icons are so tiny, this for some people wont be an issue but it was for me. even though you can view more content on the z ultra screen, everything is so shrunk down that reading on the thing becomes straining on the eyes. even when you increase the font size in the settings menu, some apps still show font too small.
After a few months i just could not stand these flaws and sold the phone to buy note 3. So far i couldn't be happier. I can carry the phone with no issue, the screen is vibrant and clear with multiple modes to choose from. skin tones look better and shadows are represented accurately. sound quality is vastly improved, the list could keep going on.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
1. I fit it into my front chest pocket and never have any problem with it. in fact Sony engineers stated that it is the max that a pocket can be fitted because it is designed with a passport width in mind. So I'm not sure why can't you.
2. Blacks will never be a true black even with AMOLED one. Yeah the contrast is good when you push the brightness, but when you're reducing it you'll know that their blacks are not as black as you thought. I have had using razr Maxx fyi so there's that. If you don't like x reality then just turn it off simple. It's like you need to change color temperature mode first to get more accurate color in GS4 and Note 3. Plus those oversaturated colors.. I don't know but my eyes bleed when i saw my friend's Note 2 after using the Z Ultra. There's a reason why professional monitor doesn't use AMOLED.
3. Nothing beats HTC one in that regard i admit, but frankly all other smartphones can only produce so much sound too plus it is water proof so like shaolin said. You don't get something for nothing
4. Just switch to manual and reduce ISO to max 200. Boom done. Or better yet the qx100..
5. To each other's preferences then. But if we have to be honest, people loves to flash CM ROM on their Samsung/LG because of the bloated skin. Whereas with sony sometimes people regret doing that and came back to stock Sony ROM because the beautiful factor and simplicity is damn near AOSP one.
6. I have pity for you then. You are wasting all that ppi provided by the phone these days just for a bigger font. Granted if you have eye problem but if you do, better make it with some low end galaxy grand I suppose?
But i do understand that Note 3 has advantages over Z Ultra. S-pen and slighlty longer lasting battery, but none of the above you mentioned I'd consider as the disadvantages of the Z Ultra.
Sent from my C6802 using xda app-developers app
I clearly stated multiple times that everything i stated was based on my personal experience for the very reason that this is a z ultra forum, most people who frequent this forum will be z ultra owners of which there will be many people that do like the z ultra.
All the negatives i wrote about are based on my experiences and my uses of the phone, they wont be the same nor should they be the same as everyone's else...as of now i find the note 3 suits my needs better than the z ultra, does that mean i find the note 3 perfect....NO...does that mean the z ultra is a bad phone....NO
I use most of my phones stock, i seldom root much less use custom ROMS...if a phone does do or perform the way i want out the box then iam less likely to keep it...
The OP asked if its worth switching from the note 2 to z ultra....now since i used the note 2 for over a year before switching i felt my input could be of help, its up to the OP to look into the issues i stated and see for him/herself if 1) he can actually see the same issues stated in the phone 2) if he does see the issues are they a deal breaker for him
One thing i do know for sure is that iam not the only one who feels the way i do, each point i made has already been made by different forum members,
For example the font being too small, there is already a thread made about it in the forum, the screen issues i mentioned forum member angelofmusic has stated my experience with actual measurements made
Iam sure the z ultra is a good phone for some, but its just not for me
I have been using many phones before the Z.U. Honestly I only like Samsung phone for the Galaxy S1,S2. Since s3, the quality is, sorry for all Samsung users, never be able to beat Sony.
If you compare between the screen of Z.U and Samsung phone. Indeed the samsung will have brighter, more vivid colors, but not as real as the Z.U. I am an Z.U users and I am giving my personal opinion.
To the OP, I do NOT think it is worth to switch to the Note2. When you buy the Z.U, you know that the size is large and at some points, it may cause inconvenience. For the Note 2, it might be smaller, but I think you will miss the badass screen of Z.U soon.
With me, there is no reason to swith from Z.U to Note2, only if it is because of the battery. However, using a Phablet like the Z.U, you should prepare that the battery will not last all day long like smaller ones. Why? besides the badass screen, you have the Snap 800 inside, which is far too strong for any usual tasks.
justsomebody said:
I have been using many phones before the Z.U. Honestly I only like Samsung phone for the Galaxy S1,S2. Since s3, the quality is, sorry for all Samsung users, never be able to beat Sony.
If you compare between the screen of Z.U and Samsung phone. Indeed the samsung will have brighter, more vivid colors, but not as real as the Z.U. I am an Z.U users and I am giving my personal opinion.
To the OP, I do NOT think it is worth to switch to the Note2. When you buy the Z.U, you know that the size is large and at some points, it may cause inconvenience. For the Note 2, it might be smaller, but I think you will miss the badass screen of Z.U soon.
With me, there is no reason to swith from Z.U to Note2, only if it is because of the battery. However, using a Phablet like the Z.U, you should prepare that the battery will not last all day long like smaller ones. Why? besides the badass screen, you have the Snap 800 inside, which is far too strong for any usual tasks.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Seems like OP wants to switch from note 2 to z ultra not the other way around
Sent from my C6802 using xda app-developers app
thanx guys for ur input ,much appreciated. I have until tomorrow to make the deal so I am trying to consider all the facts. the pros and cons.very strong points from both end. I just met the guy. the screen looked washed out to me while the note 2 looked unnecessarily colorful him. the funny thing is now my note 2 looks so small and I cant get over it. wow! the screen size and all those extra space to work with but I just cant say abt the battery life if it suits my need.
lasts thank you for your time and all those long reviews. I hope I make the right choice.
Also, Z Ultra will survive a toilet dip , that's something to be bragged about.
trellva25 said:
I clearly stated multiple times that everything i stated was based on my personal experience for the very reason that this is a z ultra forum, most people who frequent this forum will be z ultra owners of which there will be many people that do like the z ultra.
All the negatives i wrote about are based on my experiences and my uses of the phone, they wont be the same nor should they be the same as everyone's else...as of now i find the note 3 suits my needs better than the z ultra, does that mean i find the note 3 perfect....NO...does that mean the z ultra is a bad phone....NO
I use most of my phones stock, i seldom root much less use custom ROMS...if a phone does do or perform the way i want out the box then iam less likely to keep it...
The OP asked if its worth switching from the note 2 to z ultra....now since i used the note 2 for over a year before switching i felt my input could be of help, its up to the OP to look into the issues i stated and see for him/herself if 1) he can actually see the same issues stated in the phone 2) if he does see the issues are they a deal breaker for him
One thing i do know for sure is that iam not the only one who feels the way i do, each point i made has already been made by different forum members,
For example the font being too small, there is already a thread made about it in the forum, the screen issues i mentioned forum member angelofmusic has stated my experience with actual measurements made
Iam sure the z ultra is a good phone for some, but its just not for me
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Good so like after I sold a phone, I dont keep hanging around the old forums to post stuff like you just did. Just does not make sense to hang around a forum for a device I only had for a few months and did not like...I move on with my life to the new phone I got and the corresponding forums...
I already replied to all your points before so I wont rehash that. I do not mean the Note 3 is a bad phone nor that the Ultra is perfect, it sure is not. But your post really blows things out of proportions. Your opinion it is and I totally disagree with most of it as I said...so that is MY opinion too.
The OP will decide at the end.
Pannam said:
thanx guys for ur input ,much appreciated. I have until tomorrow to make the deal so I am trying to consider all the facts. the pros and cons.very strong points from both end. I just met the guy. the screen looked washed out to me while the note 2 looked unnecessarily colorful him. the funny thing is now my note 2 looks so small and I cant get over it. wow! the screen size and all those extra space to work with but I just cant say abt the battery life if it suits my need.
lasts thank you for your time and all those long reviews. I hope I make the right choice.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I always had to tame down the colors on my Note phones using a kernel feature or at least changing to movie mode or something like that. The sony just looks perfect to me but I am used to working on a calibrated monitor for photo editing so give it a bit of time for your eyes to adjust maybe.
In any case, good luck with your decision!
I wont deny I was afraid of changing from Samsung after so many phones and being a Note 1 and Note 2 fan but now I cannot see myself without my Ultra! :good:
Pannam said:
Hi guys,
I am about to exchange my note 2 with z ultra amd some added cash ? Should I go forward ? Comparing the battery life after 4.3 update is it better, a little better or a ton better ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I came from the note 2 myself... The battery on The Z Ultra is just fine, it actually got considerably better after a few weeks use. I was paranoid at first worrying when I got down to 50% etc, but honestly one the initial setup and benchmarking frenzy was over it easily lasts me a day now. I normally charge between 5 and 7 when I get home after work, and thats the only time I do charge, its left unplugged overnight. When I come to charge it the next day I've usually got 40%+ left in the tank. To summarise I don't worry about battery whatsoever with this device. :good:
People keep complaining about the black levels on the ZU's screen - but they don't seem to realize what accurate colours truly are.
If you are the type of person who sets their TV to 'vivid' or 'dynamic' or one of those other fake settings that artificially enhance the hues and saturation of colours to make them pop - then by all means, please go the Samsung route; to your eyes, the colours are most likely going to seem more vibrant and thus imply that the screen quality is actually better.
If you want colours that are as close to those you will get from a professionally calibrated television set or monitor - the Sony is hands down the way to go.
Even comparing the Sony ZU side by side with my first generation Galaxy Note, the colours on the Note can in some cases strike out a little more - but when I put them up against my 55" professionally calibrated Samsung TV - the Sony's colours are most in line with the calibrated display - the Samsung looks skewed.
In short, if you think skin tones actually are supposed to be orange - stick with a Samsung.
If you want accurate, realistic depiction of your media - go Sony.
hassanmahmood said:
People keep complaining about the black levels on the ZU's screen - but they don't seem to realize what accurate colours truly are.
If you are the type of person who sets their TV to 'vivid' or 'dynamic' or one of those other fake settings that artificially enhance the hues and saturation of colours to make them pop - then by all means, please go the Samsung route; to your eyes, the colours are most likely going to seem more vibrant and thus imply that the screen quality is actually better.
If you want colours that are as close to those you will get from a professionally calibrated television set or monitor - the Sony is hands down the way to go.
Even comparing the Sony ZU side by side with my first generation Galaxy Note, the colours on the Note can in some cases strike out a little more - but when I put them up against my 55" professionally calibrated Samsung TV - the Sony's colours are most in line with the calibrated display - the Samsung looks skewed.
In short, if you think skin tones actually are supposed to be orange - stick with a Samsung.
If you want accurate, realistic depiction of your media - go Sony.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
well, cannot agree more on that
Well it's not as feel friendly as the Ultra but that's it.
R e a l l y like so far.
rockky said:
Well it's not as feel friendly as the Ultra but that's it.
R e a l l y like so far.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
it is rather heavy and feels bigger? heard camera was not living up to its name but on plus side it has a flash and the screen resolution is much higher, bigger battery, improved processor
mac231us said:
it is rather heavy and feels bigger? heard camera was not living up to its name but on plus side it has a flash and the screen resolution is much higher, bigger battery, improved processor
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes the camera is very much a downgrade, but I have a hunch that it is software related and not hardware. They just need to fix their camera app.
I did my replacement with Galaxy S7 Edge and i dont regret replacing ZU
I also upgraded my Z Ultra to the Phab 2 Pro. Almost identical in size. The new phone fits in my CP-12 Power Cover (face down only because of the curve back.) It does not fit in the Sony Kruesel case, strange enough. The screen is very nice. To me, the camera in the Phab 2 Pro is leaps and bounds better than the XZU. The overall unit is not as user-friendly as the Sony, but it is every bit as snappy (if not moreso.)
Shoupaloop said:
I also upgraded my Z Ultra to the Phab 2 Pro. Almost identical in size. The new phone fits in my CP-12 Power Cover (face down only because of the curve back.) It does not fit in the Sony Kruesel case, strange enough. The screen is very nice. To me, the camera in the Phab 2 Pro is leaps and bounds better than the XZU. The overall unit is not as user-friendly as the Sony, but it is every bit as snappy (if not moreso.)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Am in reverse here (sort of) went back to the Ultra Z after owning it in the first 3 months of 2014...lol..great device (existenz rom v7 minimal - double tap to wake, great call clarity, all important lte bands-camera is not great but works well fairly lit indoors, outdoors) (did consider the phab2 pro though; have the Lenovo S850LC 8 inch tabelt phone that can make phone calls get all imp US lTE bands but horrible interface and it has hardly got any updates-still on KK as the 5.1 is atrocious-that device actually has a flash and a decent camera esp considering it is an actual tablet)
Fellow XDA Members I was fortunate enough to have had some hands on time with the S10 5G, I thought I would share what I found with you so if you are thinking about buying one in the future or waiting for it over the standard S10 Plus, feel free to ask me any questions. I have also created a video about the S10 5G and the link is below but please read my experience with it first, VIDEO LINK HERE: https://youtu.be/dyrG-nAJFvc
Holding it in my hand I realise how big this phone is but it still feels smaller than I thought it would thanks to the hole punch camera design infact I would say it feels very similar in size to my Note 9. In a similar vein to the other S10 models Samsung has chosen to give us an aluminium frame sandwiched between two panes of curved glass with gorilla glass 6 covering the screen. I’m glad they didn’t go with a stainless steel frame otherwise it would be a very heavy device. The back has a stunning new colour that Samsung is calling Titan which has a rainbow shimmer effect but it will also be available in silver and gold.
The screen is stunning, a massive 6.7inches way bigger than the S10 plus but Samsung has also said that it is a wide Quad HD Plus screen with Dynamic Amoled technology and boy does it look good, Samsung are the kings of mobile screens. Hidden in the screen is the all new ultrasonic fingerprint sensor which works well and only needs the slightest touch to unlock the phone even when the screen is off.
Running this titan is the Snapdragon 855 the same as the other s10 models, but the difference is Samsung has included the X50 modem chip which gives it that hyper fast 5G connectivity. Of course none of this matters if the battery is not up to par and wisely Samsung has included a 4600 mah power pusher in the S10 5G. Samsung has also included the all new 25W fast wired charging capability which according to Samsung will charge the phone from 0 to 20% in just 10 minutes and to 100% in less than an hour. Just like the S10 plus the 5G has fast wireless charging 2.0 and wireless power share.
It will come with 8GB of RAM and 256GB of inbuilt storage but unfortunately it is not expandable due to lack of room within the phone.
This video wouldn’t be complete if I didn’t talk about the cameras, firstly it is obvious to see the punch hole in the screen is bigger than the one on the standard S10 plus. That is because it now houses the same 10mp f1.9 primary camera and 8mp f2.2 depth sensor but also included is an all new HQVGA 3D depth sensing camera which will be used for advanced AR features and is capable of measuring distances. This same sensor is included in the rear camera cluster alongside the 12mp variable aperture primary lens, the telephoto 12mp f2.4 camera and the ultra wide 16mp f2.2 sensor which gives a 123 degree viewing angle like human eyes.
Like the other s10 models the 5G comes with android 9.0 onboard and all the pie goodness such as night mode, the sleeker ui design, gesture controls and an overall smoother experience. So you are thinking great device I would love to own one, well I have a different opinion, now hear me out , my issue is that I don’t believe it will sell well because Samsung have said it will be released in summer. Now bearing in mind the networks won’t be fully 5 g ready by then coupled with the fact that the 5G Note 10 will be only a couple of months away, I can see consumers waiting for that instead of investing in the S10 5G.
Nice write up my friend, yeah your conclusion is the same as to why I went with the S10+ and I am happy with my choice. I will be getting the note so holding off for the S10+ 5G didn't make sense.
However I think it is indicative as to what the Note 10 will bring and boy is it going to be good....:good:
Good to hear your review! I'm going to enjoy my S10+ for a while and wait for 5G to get established...
i just not sure how I am going to afford the 5G plan in U.S.
So I am fine with Note 9 and s10
Thanks for taking the time to do the write up. I'll be looking to trade up to this once available for sure!!
Duncan1982 said:
Nice write up my friend, yeah your conclusion is the same as to why I went with the S10+ and I am happy with my choice. I will be getting the note so holding off for the S10+ 5G didn't make sense.
However I think it is indicative as to what the Note 10 will bring and boy is it going to be good....:good:
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The Note 10 will be fantastic if the rumours are true, I'm looking forward to it definitely.
shollywood said:
Thanks for taking the time to do the write up. I'll be looking to trade up to this once available for sure!!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Not tempted to wait for the note 10?
ramheer said:
Not tempted to wait for the note 10?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Not if it's anything like the s10+. Going back to Note 9 though.
shollywood said:
Not if it's anything like the s10+. Going back to Note 9 though.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I understand, the note 9 is still one of the best devices out
Good review
Hi all, I still have a Google Pixel 2 and I am looking to upgrade my phone for a long time! I tried the Samsung Galaxy A52 5G earlier this year. But unfortunately, it had a few issues such as: (1) under screen optical fingerprint sensor was very unreliable and often did not register my fingerprint, (2) the vibration motor was very low quality and it did not have the good quality snappy haptics feel of more premium phones like my Pixel 2. It felt so cheap. And (3) audio quality in phone calls was bad. There was too much noise and crackling sounds in phone calls.
So, I returned the A52 5G. Now, looking at the Nord 2, I am quite excited. I really hope this phone is great! Does it have the same issues as I mentioned above about the Galaxy A52 5G? Specifically, does it have a bad vibration motor or a good vibration motor like in a premium phone? Secondly, is the under screen optical fingerprint sensor good? Or is it finicky and do you need to place your finger multiple times to register a fingerprint? And is the call quality good?
Please let me know so that I can make a good decision regarding this purchase. Thanks!
Haptic feel is excellent but the noise the motor makes can be irritating for some people
Under screen fingerprint sensor is okay, sometimes it fails but not very often (i'd say 5-10% of the time). Compared to other phones it's not the best but by far it's not the worst. And it's extremelly quick to scan when finger is correctly applied.
Call quality and noise cancellation is very good if you have good signal.
Pouic said:
Haptic feel is excellent but the noise the motor makes can be irritating for some people
Under screen fingerprint sensor is okay, sometimes it fails but not very often (i'd say 5-10% of the time). Compared to other phones it's not the best but by far it's not the worst. And it's extremelly quick to scan when finger is correctly applied.
Call quality and noise cancellation is very good if you have good signal.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hi Pouic, thanks for the quick reply! That is good to know. What do you mean by the motor making a lot of noise? And does the haptics feel very precise or is it very muddied like some very vague and strong vibration? Essentially what I am trying to figure out is if the haptics feel very gentle and precise like the vibration of an iPhone or premium Android phones. The Samsung A52 5G had a very bad vibration motor.
And I guess it is to be expected with under screen fingerprint sensors unfortunately. And good to know that call quality is good.
I wanted to know what other accessories OnePlus provides in the box. Does it come with a screen protector and case? And if I were to buy this phone would you recommend the 8 GB RAM model or the 12 GB RAM model? I feel 12 GB is too much but I am not sure.
The noise of the motor is audible and coming from an older phone or budget phone you'll find the noise very pleasant or very irritating, personally I like the noise , it's very sharp and high pitched like if it was coming from the speaker. I had previously the Oneplus 5 and haptic feedback was not great att all (like your A52 I suppose.)
Haptic is very precise, I use the Swiftkey keyboard and set the keypress vibration at 20ms and it's very nice to type text with it.
In the box I received a screen protector (already applied on screen) but it's a very simple plastic protector, it does the job but unlike glass screen protector it is very prone to dust and scratches. Also it comes with a bulky transparent cover (I already ordered another more slim and black) and a pair of wired usb-c earphones
I have the 8Gb/128Gb and even with a lot of apps opened ram management is very good. But if you want a lot of storage you have to go to the 12Gb/256Gb version since there is no option with 8/256 .
Pouic said:
The noise of the motor is audible and coming from an older phone or budget phone you'll find the noise very pleasant or very irritating, personally I like the noise , it's very sharp and high pitched like if it was coming from the speaker. I had previously the Oneplus 5 and haptic feedback was not great att all (like your A52 I suppose.)
Haptic is very precise, I use the Swiftkey keyboard and set the keypress vibration at 20ms and it's very nice to type text with it.
In the box I received a screen protector (already applied on screen) but it's a very simple plastic protector, it does the job but unlike glass screen protector it is very prone to dust and scratches. Also it comes with a bulky transparent cover (I already ordered another more slim and black) and a pair of wired usb-c earphones
I have the 8Gb/128Gb and even with a lot of apps opened ram management is very good. But if you want a lot of storage you have to go to the 12Gb/256Gb version since there is no option with 8/256 .
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hi Pouic! Glad to know these things. I myself use swiftkey will checkout your tweak. I'm also looking for a good cover can you share link of the one you ordered?
Ajois said:
Hi Pouic! Glad to know these things. I myself use swiftkey will checkout your tweak. I'm also looking for a good cover can you share link of the one you ordered?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I received this one this week : https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003069040262.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.7e8c4c4dcAhFP8
Very basic (and cheap) but it does the trick, a bit slippery tho but I can live with that since it's a little bit thinner that the original one
Also I have this one still delivery pending : https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001710885495.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.7e8c4c4dcAhFP8
Haptics is very good on Nord 2. Much stronger feedback when typing compared to Nord 1. Also better than Poco F3. I like it a lot.
Pouic said:
The noise of the motor is audible and coming from an older phone or budget phone you'll find the noise very pleasant or very irritating, personally I like the noise , it's very sharp and high pitched like if it was coming from the speaker. I had previously the Oneplus 5 and haptic feedback was not great att all (like your A52 I suppose.)
Haptic is very precise, I use the Swiftkey keyboard and set the keypress vibration at 20ms and it's very nice to type text with it.
In the box I received a screen protector (already applied on screen) but it's a very simple plastic protector, it does the job but unlike glass screen protector it is very prone to dust and scratches. Also it comes with a bulky transparent cover (I already ordered another more slim and black) and a pair of wired usb-c earphones
I have the 8Gb/128Gb and even with a lot of apps opened ram management is very good. But if you want a lot of storage you have to go to the 12Gb/256Gb version since there is no option with 8/256 .
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Haha I LOVE Noisy vibrations, reminiscent of the old Nokia 3310/6510/8310 days. Man truly, those were the days :'(
Pouic said:
I received this one this week : https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003069040262.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.7e8c4c4dcAhFP8
Very basic (and cheap) but it does the trick, a bit slippery tho but I can live with that since it's a little bit thinner that the original one
Also I have this one still delivery pending : https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001710885495.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.7e8c4c4dcAhFP8
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Cool I'll check them out, thanks!
I believe that the screen fingerprint unlock system of my S23 ultra is a bit worse than the one on my S22 ultra. Although the fingerprint area is larger in S23 ultra than its predecessor, I ended up with many missed tries of screen unlocking. My s23 ultra is 918B , SEK csc (from initial EUX). It is very early to having results but if anyone has something to say , it would be welcomed.
gpap2004 said:
I believe that the screen fingerprint unlock system of my S23 ultra is a bit worse than the one on my S22 ultra. Although the fingerprint area is larger in S23 ultra than its predecessor, I ended up with many missed tries of screen unlocking. My s23 ultra is 918B , SEK csc (from initial EUX). It is very early to having results but if anyone has something to say , it would be welcomed.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I don't see a big difference. My recommendation would be to register a second time your fingerprint (as a 2nd fingerprint, not registering it over the original one you performed) with slight different positioning over your scanner, it might help.
Mine seems a lot less accurate than S21U. I rarely ever had to retry unless my hands were dirty, but with the S23U I am failing many times a day.
Compared to my Note 9's dedicated fingerprint sensor on the underneath (my previous phone) it's a flat-out fail, both in terms of accuracy as well as ergonomics
Is it Qualcomm 3D Sonic Sensor Gen 2? i saw a video that show the same size and Qualcomm said it was bigger.
Definitely seems fastest of the 3 other devices i've had recently the chance to use recently
Oppo Find X5 Pro - optical but has had a reasonable error rate in my experience (my daily phone since March 2022 replaced by S23U)
Google Pixel 6a - optical and really terrible until latest update (my daily work phone)
OnePlus 9 Pro - optical worked fine (partners phone)
S21-23 all have the same sensor 3D Gen 2.
I was hoping for the 3D Max on the S23.
The one on the s23 Ultra is terrible in comparison ot the one on my OnePlus 8T.
jcsww said:
The one on the s23 Ultra is terrible in comparison ot the one on my OnePlus 8T.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
this !
Terrible in comparison of my Oneplus, but not the same tech.
I registered 4 time my thumb to have more accurate reading, and even that , success rate is about 80% and it's not instant.
face recognition simply does not work, no matter how much I add picture.
Once again, Oneplus was instant, even under weird angle.
The fingerprint unlock in my S23U works better than my S22U and is much faster, people blames fingerprint and face detection when in most of the cases are user error, for fingerprint you need to consider two conditions of the finger: normal and dry and you should add the fingerprint for both conditions, for face detection you should add and alternative picture for improved detection and it works best in good light.
Both face detection in good light and fingerprint are working well, if its not, check what you are doing wrong otherwise you have a lemon.
I believe the S23U is the best phone Samsung made till now in all of the series and I made a correct choice upgrading from my older stutter phone S22U (Snapdragon).
citytrader said:
The fingerprint unlock in my S23U works better than my S22U and is much faster, people blames fingerprint and face detection when in most of the cases are user error, for fingerprint you need to consider two conditions of the finger: normal and dry and you should add the fingerprint for both conditions, for face detection you should add and alternative picture for improved detection and it works best in good light.
Both face detection in good light and fingerprint are working well, if its not, check what you are doing wrong otherwise you have a lemon.
I believe the S23U is the best phone Samsung made till now in all of the series and I made a correct choice upgrading from my older stutter phone S22U (Snapdragon).
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I guess it work for samsung users since they are use to.
Face recognition works, but 10% of the time with good lightning and orientation.
Even MKBH mentioned that OnePlus face recognition was not only stupidly effective, but also secure. Sometime the phone is on the table and get you face.
I have a twin brother and it don't work on him.
So yeah, when you touch Oneplus magic, we are hard on a more expensive phone that are weaker on some aspect.
jcsww said:
The one on the s23 Ultra is terrible in comparison ot the one on my OnePlus 8T.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The one on the 8T is optical. The one Samsung uses is ultrasonic. Different tech and different results. For OnePlus devices the screen must be lit for the sensor to work. No so on Samsung.
oVeRdOsE. said:
I guess it work for samsung users since they are use to.
Face recognition works, but 10% of the time with good lightning and orientation.
Even MKBH mentioned that OnePlus face recognition was not only stupidly effective, but also secure. Sometime the phone is on the table and get you face.
I have a twin brother and it don't work on him.
So yeah, when you touch Oneplus magic, we are hard on a more expensive phone that are weaker on some aspect.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I don't know who MKBH is and if it's a Youtuber is just a paid budy, that's it. If you get that number of 10% you have a lemon and you should send it to repair. My only experience with Oneplus are their Oneplus Buds Pro, bad quality, enough for not buying nothing from than brand anymore. I'm not pro Samsung because I don't have stock in that company, I use the phone for working and this version is working fine, this didn't happen to me with the other older Galaxy versions where I ever found an issue.
I wish it was like this.
Vivo X90 Pro Plus at 15min and 10 seconds
I already preorder s23u and its comming tomorrow but right now it's the only phone i would consider as alternative.