Question System size - Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra

Hey,
I saw some recent articles about system storage taking up 60gb and i noticed the app reports 512gb as storage (which is never the case). Whats going on?

I am not sure I believe those articlesto be honest and take some of their comments with a pinch of salt.
Firstly, according to their "detailed analysis" my system is apparently taking up 96gig.
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Secondly, This article: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/202...d-android-build-somehow-uses-60gb-of-storage/
"First, Samsung is notorious for having a shoddy software division that pumps out low-quality code. The company tends to change everything in Android just for change's sake, and it's hard to imagine those changes are very good."
What? So any company that decides to use their own app, ie Samsung Email, must be low quality?

Electronic Punk said:
I am not sure I believe those articlesto be honest and take some of their comments with a pinch of salt.
Firstly, according to their "detailed analysis" my system is apparently taking up 96gig.
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Secondly, This article: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/202...d-android-build-somehow-uses-60gb-of-storage/
"First, Samsung is notorious for having a shoddy software division that pumps out low-quality code. The company tends to change everything in Android just for change's sake, and it's hard to imagine those changes are very good."
What? So any company that decides to use their own app, ie Samsung Email, must be low quality?
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1TB version?

Yes I have the 1GB version, but I also just read that:
"Worth noting that "System" also includes anything on the data partition that's not attributed to apps or shared storage. A significant portion of the 60 GB is likely this miscellaneous system data, which varies depending on usage."
via
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1622687956409454603

Electronic Punk said:
Yes I have the 1GB version, but I also just read that:
"Worth noting that "System" also includes anything on the data partition that's not attributed to apps or shared storage. A significant portion of the 60 GB is likely this miscellaneous system data, which varies depending on usage."
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https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1622687956409454603
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That 20 gb apps is stock?

I assume the 20gb are my non-system apps.
But the 96 also includes data that is not on the system partition that is unclaimed, basically its more complex than it seems, not just what we would have once considered teh system partition.

Well I don't know about you guys but I'm getting ****ed the most here btw this is after a data format and then full setup...
Edit:
Ignore me and my stupidity, once I gave it the permission it needed, it now recognised what belongs to what. The Apps now take 85GB and the system is now just 57GB.

What the...
erik2041999 said:
Well I don't know about you guys but I'm getting ****ed the most here btw this is after a data format and then full setup...
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erik2041999 said:
Well I don't know about you guys but I'm getting ****ed the most here btw this is after a data format and then full setup...
Edit:
Ignore me and my stupidity, once I gave it the permission it needed, it now recognised what belongs to what. The Apps now take 85GB and the system is now just 57GB.
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What permission is that? I had a quick look but couldnt find it

erik2041999 said:
Well I don't know about you guys but I'm getting ****ed the most here btw this is after a data format and then full setup...
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Ignore me and my stupidity, once I gave it the permission it needed, it now recognised what belongs to what. The Apps now take 85GB and the system is now just 57GB.
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so it just shoves whatever is left in "system".
6000 iq

When you look at my screenshot, there's that information symbol on the right instead of amount of used space, click on it and it'll ask for permission. Then it'll split it up correctly.
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What permission is that? I had a quick look but couldnt find it
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I will post tomorrow from a fresh one out of the box

erik2041999 said:
When you look at my screenshot, there's that information symbol on the right instead of amount of used space, click on it and it'll ask for permission. Then it'll split it up correctly.
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ok so permissions was already set, still 94.60GB for system, which is lower than earlier so prove its not fixed.
Was trying to do some cleanup -- guess I managed it a bit.

Electronic Punk said:
ok so permissions was already set, still 94.60GB for system, which is lower than earlier so prove its not fixed.
Was trying to do some cleanup -- guess I managed it a bit.
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So, I'm confused, what is actually taking up so much space? Also, I'm guessing you didn't format data before setting up your phone like me, right? And just out of curiosity, what did you cleanup/delete and where?

I used Smart Switch to basically copy over my data which worked for the most part but I dont trust some apps notifications from when I did the same from my S10+
Well as far as cleanups, I have been manually wiping data and cache on some applications (too many to name and prob quite risky), uninstalling some apps that I am sure were s21 specific such as the LED case, got rid of Voice Recorder, some other AR Emjoi stuff where it could - didnt keep a list. Uninstalled secure folders, too many things to really name.
I think system is not only the system partition but perhaps even misc data under /sdcard/data/ or obb etc. etc.
I am just messing about really.

hello everyone I have 60 GB which means 4 times on other devices, I hope someone can find a way to debloat on the s23 ultra

New System without anything:
after giving permission its 56,49 GB of System

The answer is actually very simple and explained in the article below.
If you notice, when you buy a hard drive, they advertise it as 512GB but when you look in the OS, it's actually 476GB.
This is because, if you read the small characters, they calculate their GB using 1000 bytes multiplicator while in reality, it is 1024.
So if we do the math :
512Gb x 1000 = 512 000 MB x 1000 = 512 000 000 KB x 1000 = 512 000 000 000 bytes.
Now if we actually calculate the real space usage as computers calculate it we do :
512 000 000 000 / 1024 = 500 000 000 KB / 1024 = 488 281 MB / 1024 = 476 GB
In the Samsung app though, you see storage space being 512GB, not the real size of 476GB (most likely to avoid regular user confusion) so to compensate for this missing space, they add up that space to the system category. In this case, 512GB - 476GB = 36GB meaning the actual OS and system files take 22GB total.
The smaller the drive, the lesser the difference. Which is why it looks like system takes less space on a 256GB phone than it does on a 1TB phone.
One UI 5.1 bloatware is not consuming 60 GB storage on new Samsung Galaxy S23, Galaxy S23 Plus or Galaxy S23 Ultra
Recently there have been reports that One UI 5.1 reserves upwards of 60 GB storage for system partitions on the Galaxy S23, Galaxy S23 Plus and Galaxy S23 Ultra. Samsung may continue to insist on pre-installing third-party apps on One UI, but claims of 60 GB in bloatware are far from true.
www.notebookcheck.net

I checked the sizing on my s22U currently and the system is also taking 68gb of storage. I still have plenty of storage and I am not worried about it. As long as it's not slowing the phone down, and it is not, it's fine.
They really should use separate partitions like pixels do.

My System 52.93GB. Phone 12/512GB.

Related

Box app 50 GB free storage

There is a new app floating around in the I9100 forum called box . http://www.box.com/ it is very similar to drop box but for the next 30 days you get 5 gb free when you create a free account and they upgrade it to 50gb if you sign in from the android , after the 30 days you still keep the 50gb. I just tested it out and sure enough I now have 50 gb of storage. enjoy
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big thanks for the heads up! was honestly going to upgrade my dropbox. now there is really no point.
GalaxyMaster said:
There is a new app floating around in the I9100 forum called box . http://www.box.com/ it is very similar to drop box but for 30 days you get 5 gb free when you create a free account and they upgrade it to 50gb if you sign in from the android . I just tested it out and sure enough I now have 50 gb of storage. enjoy
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Thanks!
I just got the upgrade. This is awesome
Its been out for a while, even more co-workers use it.
I personally like Dropbox for the sync feature, other than that Box.net is good for large files.
LiLChris06 said:
Its been out for a while, even more co-workers use it.
I personally like Dropbox for the sync feature, other than that Box.net is good for large files.
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Not really, under the free version, dropbox let's you upload files up to however much space you have through the desktop version, and 300 MB through the site itself.
On the other hand, if you have the free version of box.com, you can only upload files up to 100MB in size. And then if you pay for the service, your file upload limit is 2GB. Which is peanuts in some cases.
I still signed up for box.com. I'm hoping that they will increase the file upload size in the future. Till then, I'll keep it around for whatever comes up.
kidneysrgood said:
Not really, under the free version, dropbox let's you upload files up to however much space you have through the desktop version, and 300 MB through the site itself.
On the other hand, if you have the free version of box.com, you can only upload files up to 100MB in size. And then if you pay for the service, your file upload limit is 2GB. Which is peanuts in some cases.
I still signed up for box.com. I'm hoping that they will increase the file upload size in the future. Till then, I'll keep it around for whatever comes up.
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Agreed re: the file size restriction for uploads - but with the total amount of space available, I can fit all my music and pics on Box - which will free up a good chunk of my space on dropbox and minus for the bigger single files. Guess I need to get around to organizing all my crap that's stored in the cloud somewhere...
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Not really, under the free version, dropbox let's you upload files up to however much space you have through the desktop version, and 300 MB through the site itself.
On the other hand, if you have the free version of box.com, you can only upload files up to 100MB in size. And then if you pay for the service, your file upload limit is 2GB. Which is peanuts in some cases.
I still signed up for box.com. I'm hoping that they will increase the file upload size in the future. Till then, I'll keep it around for whatever comes up.
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Following your advice I archived my dropbox on box in 100MB rar volumes
Thanks for this! Now I'll use dropbox for small stuff and box for big files.
Awesome. Thanks for the heads up.
i got my 50GB free upgrade but what really kills it is that you need to pay for the business version in order to get the auto folder sync. Its a pain to use the website to upload files all the time, especially when i'm constantly changing the files in my folders that I'm syncing with sugarsync, right now.
i'm glad I got the free 50GB upgrade but I'll stick with sugarsync until box releases that autosync for free.
Yea jus sucks that they cap you at 10gb bandwidth and 100mb attachments. still 50GB for free is nothing to complain about. I'm gonna sort my dropbox and then archive it to BOX... JIC.
Seriously though at least let me get 256-512mb attachments if you're gonna give me 50 gigs to play with.
Worked for me too.
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Try foldersync. I been using it for months, works great. You can set it up to add only the new files in what ever folder you want to sync. I'm using the pro version.
http://market.android.com/details?id=dk.tacit.android.foldersync.lite
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Alucardis666 said:
Yea jus sucks that they cap you at 10gb bandwidth and 100mb attachments. still 50GB for free is nothing to complain about. I'm gonna sort my dropbox and then archive it to BOX... JIC.
Seriously though at least let me get 256-512mb attachments if you're gonna give me 50 gigs to play with.
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yeah i hear ya. I'm not complaining about the 50GB free upgrade - thats amazing to give away (although it doesnt cost them anything because they make their money off the increased upload limit prices and things like that).
anyway, 100MB limit doesnt even give me enough space to upload a ROM that I'm using (if I wanted to save it myself). I paid to upgrade my sugarsync account and I'm happy with it.
GalaxyMaster said:
There is a new app floating around in the I9100 forum called box . http://www.box.com/ it is very similar to drop box but for the next 30 days you get 5 gb free when you create a free account and they upgrade it to 50gb if you sign in from the android , after the 30 days you still keep the 50gb. I just tested it out and sure enough I now have 50 gb of storage. enjoy
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nyydynasty said:
i got my 50GB free upgrade but what really kills it is that you need to pay for the business version in order to get the auto folder sync. Its a pain to use the website to upload files all the time, especially when i'm constantly changing the files in my folders that I'm syncing with sugarsync, right now.
i'm glad I got the free 50GB upgrade but I'll stick with sugarsync until box releases that autosync for free.
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Supposedly they have webDAV so you can access your online files via a network share in windows or other OS. I'll check it tomorrow and post instructions or a link if it works.
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I found the instructions for setting up WebDAV with Box.net and Windows at this link:
http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/upload-files-awesome-boxnet-windows-explorer/
I just tried it out and it works. I'm using the https connection and it is a little slow. This should also work for Mac and Linux; offhand I don't know how to setup WebDAV links on either.
So, this means you can use a folder synchronization tool to sync your files locally and on Box.net. On Windows I usually use SyncToy for this but there's other options too.
Hmmm. What do u mean sign in from the android? Just created account from phone and and says I have 5 gb of storage..which is cool. Dont get me wrong thanks for posting this
NM...figured it out. Got 50gb through market. Been one of those days, and a major blonde moment lol
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[Q] App to monitor Disk I/O

I have a couple of devices that have gotten laggy over time, and after installing System Monitor, all evidence points to 100% disk I/O usage. Something is reading/writing to memory constantly, pegging it at near 100%... but that's all I can determine.
Is there a app, or technique I can use that would show per-app I/O usage?
Thanks
Search in play store> perfmon
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Search in play store> perfmon
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This seems to just give io for the entire system, not per app. Am I missing something?
I want to recover this thread because I've the same problem with my Moto G (16 GB) device. In some cases the disk usage is up to 100%, and I didn't find any application in Play Store that shows the I/O rate per application. I use System Monitor to view some issues such as CPU, RAM, disk and network, among others, and only the disk usage doesn't have a measure individually per app.
Does anyone know, a year later, an application to monotorize the disk I/O usage individually per application?
Thank you in advance
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I want to recover this thread because I've the same problem with my Moto G (16 GB) device. In some cases the disk usage is up to 100%, and I didn't find any application in Play Store that shows the I/O rate per application. I use System Monitor to view some issues such as CPU, RAM, disk and network, among others, and only the disk usage doesn't have a measure individually per app.
Does anyone know, a year later, an application to monotorize the disk I/O usage individually per application?
Thank you in advance
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Still looking for same thing myself...
Still now App
I dont know why there is still no app which can do that, although in a lot of cases I/O monitor is more important that CPU. I am facing a lot of cases where the mobile is painfully slow or heating up but in Battery monitor or process monitor it does not show any thing. Someone really need to create one, I will buy it since it is really essential for troubleshooting Android.
Finally, I found a solution to my problem. After upgrade from KitKat to Lollipop, it seems that the "Media Storage" app. was corrupted. I stopped this app, then I deleted all data and restarted my phone. Initially it didn't recognize my customized sound files for calls, messages... but they were available again after 10 minutes (I had to reassign again too). Now, my smartphone is totally different with no 100 % I/O disk consumption. I recommend to apply this solution and feedback!
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Finally, I found a solution to my problem. After upgrade from KitKat to Lollipop, it seems that the "Media Storage" app. was corrupted. I stopped this app, then I deleted all data and restarted my phone. Initially it didn't recognize my customized sound files for calls, messages... but they were available again after 10 minutes (I had to reassign again too). Now, my smartphone is totally different with no 100 % I/O disk consumption. I recommend to apply this solution and feedback!
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Anyway there is no ready-to-use solution to monitor IO per application.
I have this exact problem but there's hardly any info on it.
I tried to clear media storage as mentioned above, and it seemed to work initially, but then after 1 day the problem returned. My guess is that it was due to the restart, because even when I freeze the media storage I the problem is there.
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Anyone know how I can find the source?
I think this is one of the biggest problem i have with my s3. Cannot find the solution.
Anyway i found that exist a tool called iotop.sh to find out which process is eating i/o. However it works only if your kenrel support i/o accounting. Mine do not support.
If someone want to try it and post here the results would be great.
Here the thread of iotop.sh: http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software-hacking/script-iotop-android-t2910428
it's very frustrating and shame that there is no way to see disk or io activity by per app on android. normally you would expect a good if not solid performance monitoring tools from an operating system nowadays. (dreaming of ms windows quality os on mobile platforms.. )
please update this thread if a solution found.
2022 and still looking ! I use "Disk Pulse" for Windows and it is excellent. I have even made RAM disks for very high intensity IO (saves the SSD wear and performance increase) identified by Disk Pulse.
Disk Pulse for Android would be awesome !
Still no app?
Iotop is buggy and can't help.

[Q] How to Fix KitKat-Disadvantages?

You all know, there are more'n'more devices that have already Android KitKat/Higher as Standard OS without Upgrade.
And on the newer Jelly Bean·Phones, more and more people are trapping into the KitKat-Trap.
Phones that have KitKat as Standard OS are:
All Samsung Galaxy Models newer that S5 (=S5 Normal, Mini, Sport, Active, LTE A and so on and including K-Ƶoom.
HTC ONE M8, E8 (not MAX, M7)
Sony Xperia Z2: Z2+Z2Tablet Z3 Z3 Compact, Tablet Compact
Lenovovo Motorôla MOTO 8,X
LG Google Nexus 5
LG G2 Pro, Mini and G3
Nexus 6,9
and there are thay they mený other devices, which have Jelly Bean pre-installed but can actually be Upgradet to hell. (Examplse.:Ntoe 3, 8.0 Note2 and Galaxy S3 only on VeriƵon (lucky not-veryzon-S3's!) and all Nexus devices newer than 2011 i think incl. Nexus 7 2012, 2013, Nexus 4,Samsung Nexus 10? Yes, i saw it on GSMAarena!)
So this time my Questions are:
Is it possible to have all the new Features (Device and UI-Version and OS-Version) (UI=User Interface, GUI=Graphical UserInterface, OS=Operating System or Operation System) on a device but fix followwing disadvantages:
EXAMPLE DEVICE= Samsung Galaxy Note 4 and Note Edge (Gear S has a Tiƶen-Based OS)
[QUOTE:"Disadvantages:"]
>Ugly new Battery Icon Colour (Blue on all Devices but Green on Samsung devices all now GREÝ!)
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>To „prevent datatrash" a new deleting feature that additionally deletes all data on the User Data Storage in MNT and all external data storages too! Biggest KitKat disadvantage!
What i'd like too said:
FULL SD-Card Access again for the folowing Apps:
ES File Explorer CupCake; RAR for Android; ES2,3 File Explorer, ASTRO(sucks) and RythmSoft HD and NORMAL file manager
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Well, i'm happy that every 4.4.2 device WILL get 4.4.3! Because:
>4.4.2 Makes Battery Problems (60% Runtime of 4.3 on S4)
·64% of the KitKat-4.4.0 and 4.4.2 not 4.4.1,4.4.3or4.4.4 devices make Battery Problems with Skype, inside of the Battery Menu it shows: 16-17% Skype, 81% Android OS. So the BatRunTime will be minimized to 20% for Skype-Users but i'd actually like to use Skype.
What Google Said:
Google said:
>We know about all that battery-problems so:
·Uninstall Skype <----Are you a fool, Google?
>We also know about that Battery Problems with AndroidOS that eats up 20-40% even without Skype! But we'll not tell, where in the Android SourceC·ode the bug actually „does being"!"
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>Galaxy Note Devices have some bugs with External Hardware
>Samsung Stops Cheating on AnTuTu; 20% Worse Results! (Since 4.4.2, 4.4.0 Still Cheated, 4.4.1=No Samsung Device ever had 4.4.1! Only Nexus 10 i think! But Nx5 is made by Google and LG.
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But the Disadvantage of Jelly Bean is the Missing Screenshot-Button on some Galaxy Tablets (Tab,Notetab) but the iPhone 5 and the 4.0.4 Galaxy S3 broke the record in security issues
example on for S3/ICS4.0.4
>The News (L8/2012) did show up a Man Tapping on an Android-Virus site which somehow dialed a Code-Number (like „*#7353*" or „*0#*0" or „*#9900*") that deleted EVERY SINGLE FILE on the device and SD-Card. Ugh, meh, simply horrible!
#ComicSansMSSuckxs!
(Sucks 80% with Fontsize 8 - Standard Fontsiƶe on in XDA-Forum) (Sucks 100% with Fontsize 12 = 3 on XDA.) and 60% with Size 4 and 41% with Fontsize 5
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Three other whatever about KitKaat-disadvantàge-things that i did forget will be added later on with a Quote.
Oh no! Forgot Options in Poll!
If this survey excludes an option thad you'd like or if you only like 4.2 but not 4.2.1 then POST! (You don't have to, only do if you want, XDA is a forced-free forum! I don't want to command or force you to do something!)
(I forgot 4.3.2!)
And i forgot the 4.4.x-Versions.
I heard: maybe Google is going to Fixxx the SD-Card restrictiuns on Android-L!
Now still no SD-Card-Device has Android-L only Nexus 5 and Moto X 2014!
If you do then: PLEASE REMOVE THIS DATATRaSH-KILLER FEATURE!
BECAUSE NOT EVERYTHING OF MY DATA (like CameraMX-Recordings) is just JJUNK!
Datatrash·Killer also kills data which/that is no crashy trash! Like PaintPRO-Drawings! I ?♥❤ ♥❤?♥ (love) playingwith the Kids Mode!··
Ah! What i forgot to write:
On external SD (Probably „SDCARD1"), there'll be ES and ES can just delete every file on External SD
And if you Delete a file with ES or User Apps, then they'll be just normally deleted „?XAMPLE.MP4) but if you delete a file (IntMem and ExtMem), with the stock built-in File Explorer, then they'll be additionally wiped, this wastes ressoruces and battery and makes the file inrecoverable. Googlre:„data privacy"
But the maximum survey options are just 50! So i wasn't able to make any single Android-Version as an Option. I did Exclude the BETA-Versions.
IF KitKat, then 4.4.1 or 4.4.5! There will be no 44.4.6 anymore but ...!
Poll Options up to 32 or 41.
Another thing that i forgot:
First i decided to make this Poll having 32 Options but while i did type in Option 23 „I prefer Stock Android" i recognized, that i'm going to run out of options! So i did extend the Options-Number to 50!
Result: still not engouh -—―- read upper posts (no, i mean the last post for more information
Please, XDA-Admins, set this limit to 100!
I know, that unlimited poll options counts can make trouble but in such a case i needed a few more options. A higher Poll-Option Count Limit can fix this problems.
„Ich war auf mehr, mehr Optionen angewiesen!"
And the point of this is? Alot of your issues seem to be around Samsung. (no Real surprise there) It is up to the OEM to update their devices.
I dont see Google returning the SD card. To be honest it seems to be going the way of the dinos.
Tizen will be Samsungs go to OS soon enough on both mobile and wear. Nothing relly can be done about it.
Stop looking at benchmark scores. They are meaningless. Pointless and only serve to impress those that have no idea what they mean.
this poll is confusing as helm. lol
The Poll....
mamece2 said:
this poll is confusing as helm. lol
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Well... YES; is IS Confusing!
I always stay very patient but it was too hard for me to sort it agian.
But i first did choose 32 Options.
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Then i saw... OOPS, MUCH MORE THAN 32 OPTIONS!!!!
I made another thread in the Android-About-Forums with many coursing Words about Android KitKat. It was deleted.
I'll add the Link Later. But however - the Link won't work!
In that thread i made the same Poll but then it was sorted very Perfectly and not so confusing like in this thread.
I'm a girl and i'm not good at saying swear words but in this deleted thread, GentritT and Martin helped me!
I'm just 11 years old!
What i mean:
What i mean is::
Some SDCard Fix-Apps can fix the SD-Card Problem but NOT THIS!
The WRITE_EXTERNAL_STORAGE permission must only grant write access to the primary external storage on a device. Apps must not be allowed to write to secondary external storage devices, except in their package-specific directories as allowed by synthesized permissions. Restricting writes in this way ensures the system can clean up files when applications are uninstalled.
But i don't want the System to clean up the files - see the CameraMX-Example!
Ýou take recordings with CameraMX for example.
Let's say you uninstall CameraMX.
That#s what happens -
Android 4.3 - Recordings don't get touched - not even a single byte or EVEN BITT! (1Bit = 1/8 - 12,5% - 0.125 of a byte, can only be 0 or 1!)
Android 4.4+ - ALL RECORDINGS AWAY.
Does the app also fix this problem?
How to fix it manuallý?
Where is it in the Android-Permission Codes?
on which paths are they stored that you can view it by the ES₃-File Explorer for example?
And since 4.4..2 you can't disable some particûlar permissions for some particular apps.!
Is there a Fix for this? I'd like to be able to do that
4.4..2 is the most hated Android Version (by me)...
I hate to say this but your not gonna get anywhere with just es file explorer. What you want to change is deep in the system. You will have to build an entire os for your device to remove the restriction.
When an app is uninstalled it "should" remove any and all files/folders it created. Too many apps leave their junk behind after uninstalling it.
Just wait for 5.0 release. It limits it even more.
zelendel said:
I hate to say this but your not gonna get anywhere with just es file explorer. What you want to change is deep in the system. You will have to build an entire os for your device to remove the restriction.
When an app is uninstalled it "should" remove any and all files/folders it created. Too many apps leave their junk behind after uninstalling it.
Just wait for 5.0 release. It limits it even more.
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Yes... well that's why Google Actually made this deleting feature but for me it's more bad than good.!
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zelendel said:
I hate to say this but your not gonna get anywhere with just es file explorer. What you want to change is deep in the system. You will have to build an entire os for your device to remove the restriction.
When an app is uninstalled it "should" remove any and all files/folders it created. Too many apps leave their junk behind after uninstalling it.
Just wait for 5.0 release. It limits it even more.
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Wow... You can delete it manually with ES-File-Explorer or whatever File-Exploring app! (Wasting your time for this is... )Better than Losing your Photoes! See this°!
PLEASE; Google!
Please remove this „data-junk-cleaner"!
Memories and CameraMX-Reocrdings or Whatever like Paint-Pro-Drawings (I Love Playing with Kids Mode!❤❤) aren't junk!
Is there a way to turn off this DataJunk-Removage that cleans more valueable data than junky data?
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„I told him - ....“ - Unbeliev(e)able small stroy!
Another Kid in the School Upgraded his Gt-i9505 LTÉ from Android 4.3 to 4.4.2.
Before he did, i TOLD HIM ABOUT SHOCKING FACTS OF KITKAT (Battery, WiFi, SD Card, Wri Ext Storage etc.) now i told him agian for the second time - he's SO SHOCKED! - Why didn't you warn me before?
What a bràin SIƵE! „Has your battery icon the colour of GREEN or GRAY?“ - Schocking Answer was „Grey.“ Me:„Oh no! Update Trap“ „I Prefer having always the NEWEST Version...“ and then i told him the shocking facts all around Android 4.4.2! Why do millions of phones have 4.4.2?
Once i had a Nightmare where a Big Andriod KitKat-Figure destroyd all our house and deleted all files in our house with the Gûtmann-Method!
I told him about Android 4.4.2! Now his Galaxy S4 is totally Ruined!
Before he did Upgrade, i ALSO TOLD HIM!!!!! Why did he....
Please, do not Upgrade to Kitkat, the newese WAS always the best... before the Nexus 5 Came with the new Android 4.4(.0) that time.....
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The WAFER KitKat is qouite tasty but the OS that is called like this is horribly and terribly bitter!
Additionally Cleaning up junkfiles costs time...
but it's better than LOOSING VALUE(able) FILES!
If they are valuable then move them to a safe place. This is not gonna change so it's something we have to learn to live with.
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If they are valuable then move them to a safe place. This is not gonna change so it's something we have to learn to live with.
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But that's what's so hard for me!
What do you think - how many TB of valueable data are erased just because of Googles new rule? You can clean junk up manually. Well yes, it costs time and is effortfully and nobody has mood to do this... but it's far better than losing your data!
Even the BEST DATA RECOVERY IN THE WORLD (IsoBuster) is powerless in combination to MTP!
Really!..
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Google[/COLOR]]The WRITE_EXTERNAL_STORAGE permission must only grant write access to the primary external storage on a device. Apps must not be allowed to write to secondary external storage devices, except in their package-specific directories as allowed by synthesized permissions. Restricting writes in this way ensures the system can clean up files when applications are uninstalled.
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(this) Causes more problems than it helps!
...so why did Google... ...?
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Your missing the security reasons. With the old set up. I could have my apk upon install delete everything in any folder. While that is an extreme example. It is part of the reason update.
Also most things like the camera for video recording allow to set custom save folders. This is how I avoid deleting files I want to keep when I clean up my system.

Error trying to install GApps trough twrp

Hi, I'm trying to install the GApps on my phone, recently I puted lineageOS 14 on it, but when I try to flash the GApps I get the following error "architeture error, you need a 25 SDK. You have , (yeah, it doesnt show)", I tried the amr and amr64 without good results. What can I do? Thanks.
matteoolliver said:
Hi, I'm trying to install the GApps on my phone, recently I puted lineageOS 14 on it, but when I try to flash the GApps I get the following error "architeture error, you need a 25 SDK. You have , (yeah, it doesnt show)", I tried the amr and amr64 without good results. What can I do? Thanks.
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Wrong thread.
Anyway you need GApps for android 7.1.X. Download correspondent one.
I tried just about everything mentioned above... I finally tried to simply delete the Google TTS app (approx 20mb) and reattempt.
The gapps flashed 100%, no error. The size of the file was a bit smaller, so I'm guessing the 20mb was a real squeeker.
Super annoying as I just wanted to try and get Google Play (store) on the Raspberry Pi 4. I tried a few other OS's, this is the closest I've come, and the only that has worked as I want to emulate Android and Install .APK files.. All other OS's failed.
The Raspberry Pi 4 is neat so if anyone was thinking the same here you go, I have yet to install exactly what I want.. but I can say that after deleting the "googletts-arm.tar.lz" from the open_gapps-arm-9.0-pico-20210604 .zip manually. I remember doing this on phones once and it worked.. so I figured give it a shot. I flashed the gapps, factory reset, and when I did my reboot I was met with the Google "Welcome" screen and knew everything was installed... and tested yes it works!
Credit to the guy who did this article, but just follow the above instructions or picture as illustrated. I have a 64GB card running Lineage-16.0 but it says it's only about 3-4GB and only 2GB Free, which is weird but I don't know this OS very well.
I recently purchased the Raspberry Pi 4 8GB in hopes it could be a source to stream and watch my security cams, browse the web, literally simple stuff I do on a laptop that gets hot and eats up power. This little device is still new and innovative and having kinks worked out, yes it can run Windows 10 but that version of Windows 10 is not a true 64-Bit and does not allow me to load the programs I normally do such as Bluestacks for emulating Android which is super easy and covers most of the nonsense apps I run in the background... as well as a few others that no longer run on Windows 7, or only run on Windows 10.. Hopefully Raspberry pi4 gets fixed up but until it has 100% fixed Windows 10 I think Lineage + Google Play will have to suite!
It's actually working very well, a little slower than I expected but considering that this device is so tiny I am impressed as it's a lot cooler and saving power vs my old clunky laptop that sits and provides the same applications around the same speed.
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I tried just about everything mentioned above... I finally tried to simply delete the Google TTS app (approx 20mb) and reattempt.
The gapps flashed 100%, no error. The size of the file was a bit smaller, so I'm guessing the 20mb was a real squeeker.
Super annoying as I just wanted to try and get Google Play (store) on the Raspberry Pi 4. I tried a few other OS's, this is the closest I've come, and the only that has worked as I want to emulate Android and Install .APK files.. All other OS's failed.
The Raspberry Pi 4 is neat so if anyone was thinking the same here you go, I have yet to install exactly what I want.. but I can say that after deleting the "googletts-arm.tar.lz" from the open_gapps-arm-9.0-pico-20210604 .zip manually. I remember doing this on phones once and it worked.. so I figured give it a shot. I flashed the gapps, factory reset, and when I did my reboot I was met with the Google "Welcome" screen and knew everything was installed... and tested yes it works!
Credit to the guy who did this article, but just follow the above instructions or picture as illustrated. I have a 64GB card running Lineage-16.0 but it says it's only about 3-4GB and only 2GB Free, which is weird but I don't know this OS very well.
I recently purchased the Raspberry Pi 4 8GB in hopes it could be a source to stream and watch my security cams, browse the web, literally simple stuff I do on a laptop that gets hot and eats up power. This little device is still new and innovative and having kinks worked out, yes it can run Windows 10 but that version of Windows 10 is not a true 64-Bit and does not allow me to load the programs I normally do such as Bluestacks for emulating Android which is super easy and covers most of the nonsense apps I run in the background... as well as a few others that no longer run on Windows 7, or only run on Windows 10.. Hopefully Raspberry pi4 gets fixed up but until it has 100% fixed Windows 10 I think Lineage + Google Play will have to suite!
It's actually working very well, a little slower than I expected but considering that this device is so tiny I am impressed as it's a lot cooler and saving power vs my old clunky laptop that sits and provides the same applications around the same speed.View attachment 5329805
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I can confirm this worked and has been successful for the most part, maybe not the fastest OS for the Raspberry PI 4 (specifically on a 22" display vs a touch screen/tablet) as this OS would be a lot nicer on a touch screen, not very friendly for the keyboard/mouse.. but still works well.
Slimming down that 120mg gapps.zip did the trick, just delete the Google Text to Speech app (20mb) manually by opening the .zip with WinRar and under /GApps you'll see only 4 files, the "googletts-arm.tar.lz" was the one I right clicked, selected Delete.. it slimmed the .zip file saving 20mb, and that was really the turning point... I guess the OS was running slim come available HD space. Which is odd because after installing Google Play Store, I have downloaded numerous applications & games, I've even tested Clash of Clans.. which is not very fun with a mouse/keyboard and is a tad slow.. but it WORKS!
I just wanted a machine I could donate from one of my accounts as well as watch my IP Cams around the house via Wyze's Google Play Store App. I've had some issues with my older IP Cameras but mostly can always view them in VLC player and I tested and it indeed worked.
Hope this helps, spent an hour banging my head trying to remember how I used to make the gapps.zip's flash on my older cell phones w/ Cynanogenmod.... And to give credit this was the tutorial I used... Maybe there is something newer out there I am not sure... I will be looking into Cyanogenmod later for hopefully better performance.
How to Install Android 9 on Raspberry Pi 4 - Make Tech Easier
Learn how you can get touchscreen support and access to a huge variety of Android apps by installing Android 9 on Raspberry Pi 4.
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Great tutorial but I wish it had addressed the possible storage device lack of available space.. aka Error 70 come flashing in the Recovery Mode.
Hope this helps, any questions or concerns feel free to ask!

[APP] Picture Manager - Rename pictures with a timestamp and organize to folders

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What is Picture Manager?
Some manufactures like HTC and Sony (probably some more) save pictures taken with an incremented number in the filename, instead with a timestamp like other manufactures do.
When you factory reset your device, buy a new device or clean flash a custom rom, the camera picture counter gets reset and starts with e.g. IMAG_00001 again.
This can be an issue once you backup your files to a harddrive on your PC, because you will have duplicate filenames, although the pictures are actually different.
Picture Manager solves this problem by renaming your taken pictures with a timestamp format that you can select or even define yourself.
You can either start a batch process before you backup your pictures to your HDD, or automatically let Picture Manager rename your files in the background.
Another nice feature Picture Manager offers is that you can let it organize your taken pictures into folders that are named by the year, month and even day.
That will help you to quickly find your pictures again and brings some organization into you pictures.
Requirements
You have to be on at least Android 5.0 Lollipop
How does it work
Picture Manager relies on the EXIF Metadata that is stored into each picture. The EXIF Metadata contains a lot of information, the one Picture Manager needs is the date the picture was taken.
With that information Picture Manager can reliably rename and organize your pictures.
Tasker Plugin
Picture Manager comes with a Tasker Action Plugin. That means that you can start a batch process on different events, like time, when usb gets connected etc.
Premium features
If you want to use the custom format, background service or the Tasker plugin you need to upgrade to the premium version.
To upgrade you can use an in app purchase. Or you paypal me and I mail you a premium code. That way google doesn't get 30% of the income.
Downloads
Picture Manager is available in the playstore:
FAQ
Q: What about videos?
A: Picture Manager can also handle mp4 recorded videos.
Q: What about other manufactures than HTC and Sony?
A: I just know about those two that use an incremented number in their filename. If you know more, let me know. If your files are already timestamped you can still use the organizer to move your files into timestamped folders.
Q: After using the organizer I have sometimes missing files in my gallery?
A: Use the media scanner built in Picture Manager to make those files visible.
Q: Will the background service drain a lot of battery?
A: Picture Manager makes use of Androids JobSheduler, like Google Photos and Amazon Photos instant upload and is very battery friendly. When checking GSAM stats, it is nearly at the very bottom of the list.
This is intriguing. I've been using Sony phones since I first came to Android and I have a LOT of photos. (I'm not bragging, it's just the downside of being able to take them so easily.)
This app could be really useful..:highfive:
Ticklefish said:
This is intriguing. I've been using Sony phones since I first came to Android and I have a LOT of photos. (I'm not bragging, it's just the downside of being able to take them so easily.)
This app could be really useful..:highfive:
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Hehe thanks,
let me know when you tried and leave a feeback here.
Feature suggestions are welcomed too.
Cheers, Jan
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Hehe thanks,
let me know when you tried and leave a feeback here.
Feature suggestions are welcomed too.
Cheers, Jan
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So far, so good. I've renamed the files in my main 100ANDRO folder, now I'm just renaming the ones in the other folders and arranging them into date folders.
I like the app, it's proving very useful. I have hundreds of thousands of photos from various different devices all stored on a NAS. This is going to be very helpful in getting it all organised. :good:
It would be handy to have information on the notification about which file the app's working on at that moment (2/300, 3/300, etc). I know we have a progress bar but, if there are a lot of files, that bar doesn't fill in very quickly. Numbers would help show that something's happening.
And it would be really helpful if this could access folders on a NAS, but I appreciate that's probably a lot more work to implement!
Ticklefish said:
So far, so good. I've renamed the files in my main 100ANDRO folder, now I'm just renaming the ones in the other folders and arranging them into date folders.
I like the app, it's proving very useful. I have hundreds of thousands of photos from various different devices all stored on a NAS. This is going to be very helpful in getting it all organised. :good:
It would be handy to have information on the notification about which file the app's working on at that moment (2/300, 3/300, etc). I know we have a progress bar but, if there are a lot of files, that bar doesn't fill in very quickly. Numbers would help show that something's happening.
And it would be really helpful if this could access folders on a NAS, but I appreciate that's probably a lot more work to implement!
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Thanks for the feedback, much appreciated.
Will implement the counter for the next update.
About the NAS thing, that'll be a bit more complex to implement, I'll check that out on the weekend.
Edit: I got it working getting files from a NAS.
With hardcoded values so far though.
One issue I see is the performance. I need to copy every file to phone, read the exif data, rename it on the device, then copy it back to the NAS.
Then verfiy that it is there and then delete the old file.
I'll check when I have more time, how long it takes to perform 100 images.
If it is in a appropriate time I'll implement the feature. Otherwise I think I would suggest to find a windows app that does the same as my app (shouldnt be hard to find)
Copy app files to your HDD, perform the batch and copy back to NAS.

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