Question Why do few devs want their own recovery installed than supporting Custom Recoveries ? - Redmi Note 10

I mean we unlock our bootloaders for more freedom and greater support right?

ianupamdey said:
I mean we unlock our bootloaders for more freedom and greater support right?
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from my point of view they are irrelevant on vab devices (without disrespecting recovery devs they are doing an amazing job as well)
Stock Recovery works for wiping/flashing
About Backup/Restore idk for you but it never worked for me.
Modifying System Files? Maybe but you can do it from the o.s.
There are some kernel specific features (like f2fs compress) they do not work on custom rec.
And for EROFS ROMs ... it turn useless bcoz of read-only filesystem.
It should be useful when some magisk module gives you a nice bootloop and you can remove it from twrp but... you can do it on a stock recovery too..
maybe there should be more needed features but idk about them coz i used twrp only a few times

Unfortunately, it's custom recovery's lack of support for newer file systems (as @alonsoj636 said) & probably due to incompatibility of recovery based OTA updates.
TWRP & OFOX are still useful in a lot of ways, but for you to stick to them, you gotta reflash recovery the moment you updated the ROM, caz it'll replace the existing custom one after the next bootup.
If you don't wanna deal with all these custom ROM nonsense, there's a GSI pathway that I've made a how to guide (which also has it's own querks btw).

Great answers. Thanks.
I studied a bit about the AB devices. Your replies make sense. Also i have made up mind not to flash any android versions after 13 on this device.
I tried to flash gsi but it did not boot. Not a guy who knows coding and much. I will give it a try maybe again. It is bit more complex for me since i have a ubuntu system.
Phones are increasingly becoming complex. I miss smaller phones with great battery and less clutter. I had Htc Desire C in 2011. Loved it. From the Indian perspective: dual sim phones will soon become unnecessary burden as cellular plans are becoming costlier due to Duopoly and less competition in the market + inflation.
Mojito will probably be my last Xiaomi phone.

ianupamdey said:
Mojito will probably be my last Xiaomi phone.
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Same here. You can go with Pixel A series. They have amazing development track. Might cost a bit, but worth each penny.
ianupamdey said:
is bit more complex for me since i have a ubuntu system
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On Linux, you only need to install android-tools package for adb / fastboot. No need of drivers too.
ianupamdey said:
Also i have made up mind not to flash any android versions after 13 on this device.
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That's a bad idea.

ianupamdey said:
Mojito will probably be my last Xiaomi phone.
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Yeah mine too
i'm tired of this Pocket Heater but i'm poor so no money for something better

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[Q] Just got my SII - which ROM should I chose?

I am brand new
Which ROM?
R there any ICS ones?
WOuld love to hear ur thoughts
Thank you
Seriously, if you don't know whether or not there's even an ICS ROM available yet, maybe you shouldn't be flashing a $600+ phone, yeah? Or, you know... use the search tool?
screamworks said:
Seriously, if you don't know whether or not there's even an ICS ROM available yet, maybe you shouldn't be flashing a $600+ phone, yeah? Or, you know... use the search tool?
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Will do. Thanks!
screamworks said:
Seriously, if you don't know whether or not there's even an ICS ROM available yet, maybe you shouldn't be flashing a $600+ phone, yeah? Or, you know... use the search tool?
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+1
you should try with stock rom for a while, start reading about flashing roms and you will be ready to flash
I know it's annoying to have to wait, but it's better to do it, than wind up with a potentially ruined device.
@benyben123
I suggest trying out Checkrom 4.0. It is very stable
Stock ROM but ROOTED and your' good to go..................friendly recommendation
Dude, if You just got Your phone and don't know what rom to choose at first learn the device. You don't need neither custom rom nor root. These are just addons for great device. It's common that people don't use their device but play with it and it ends badly. You assumed that any rom is good apart from stock but stock rom is very good. Also You don't need to root it instantly. Some say that "phone is unusable in non rooted state" - it's bull s**t. Apps that require root are designed to meet very specific needs, not for regular users. It's because android is veery advanced and allow many things without administrator privileges (this is not an iphone !). Remember - people think that root is "something everyone should do at once" - no it's not, and it's very dangerous in hands of unexperienced user. One false move with root privileges and You will start learning many things about flashing at once just to recover your device. Also remember that this is not another "application privilege". App with root privs is capable of wiping entire system in a seconds including IMEI data etc.
It's really friendly advice - leave Your phone as it is for now, learn how it works, install some apps and read as much as You can. Then You will know what your device is capable of and what can be achieved by rooting / flashing kernels or roms. Flashing without a reason, just for fun is stupid and ends with full pants.
Regards
Slig
Thank you all for all your responses!!! Much appreciated!!!
Official MIUI without a doubt. The best ROM I've used on any device.
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Fredriksen said:
Official MIUI without a doubt. The best ROM I've used on any device.
Sent from my GT-I9100 using xda premium
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But is MIUI even supported? Isn't it ported (which means its not so good, but only kinda?)
benyben123 said:
But is MIUI even supported? Isn't it ported (which means its not so good, but only kinda?)
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...another thing worth to read about. What do You mean by supported ? It's supported by it's designers.
For SGS2 we have custom ROMs like CheckROM - modified Samsung officials, added some tweaks, apps, removed less usable apps. And ROMs like MIUI or CyanogenMod - they are AOSP (android open source project) and have little in common with Samsung official firmware, ex. no TouchWiz so some Samsung specific apps will not work on them. According to Wikipedia - MIUI is based on CM7.1 sources.
MIUI is not "ported", it's prepared for many devices including SGS2.
Don't do *anything* until you've done a *lot* of reading. Enjoy the phone. It's a fantastic device simply running stock firmware.
Once you're comfortable enough to be able to do it in your sleep (And not before. If you have to ask questions about this, you're not ready. It is an absolutely simple process), root your phone using a CFRoot kernel.
This will enable you to remove/freeze all the crap telcos/Samsung put on the phone and all the other joyful things that come with having a rooted phone. And do a lot more reading. Only this time read the threads devoted to the various roms/kernels. Read other users experiences with these. The features. Pluses. Downsides. Ask specific questions about them in these threads.
From there, you can make an informed decision about a rom/kernel combo to try. Believe me, if you do a couple of weeks of reading/research before you do anything, you'll reap the rewards.
If you jump in the deep end without understanding what you're doing, you could end up with a soft brick that might take you a few days to fix at best. Or returning the phone to Samsung /potentially having to pay to have it repaired out of your own pocket at worst.
Just a few things to consider

Xposed and TWRP

I just got my mate 10 (non-pro). I want to root it, and then install the beta of xposed for oreo. Are there any guides for this? Although I'm reading this may not be possible yet in this device? if so, is there any way to install TWRP / custom recovery to 'lay the groundwork' for maybe installing xposed at a later date? (so that I don't have to wipe my device or lose data at a later date).
Thanks very much!
shadders said:
I just got my mate 10 (non-pro). I want to root it, and then install the beta of xposed for oreo. Are there any guides for this? Although I'm reading this may not be possible yet in this device? if so, is there any way to install TWRP / custom recovery to 'lay the groundwork' for maybe installing xposed at a later date? (so that I don't have to wipe my device or lose data at a later date).
Thanks very much!
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Ur dream will not come as there is no development for Twrp as for expose i not sure. Gd luck.
orbital_71 said:
Ur dream will not come as there is no development for Twrp as for expose i not sure. Gd luck.
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I didn't think I would be regretting buying this phone on the first day of owning it! very disappointing. https://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-10/how-to/how-to-huawei-mate-10-pro-standard-t3709535/page4 based on this thread it also seems like Rooting causes people to lose theme functionality and AI functionality. So I can't even root!? very disappointed
shadders said:
I didn't think I would be regretting buying this phone on the first day of owning it! very disappointing. https://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-10/how-to/how-to-huawei-mate-10-pro-standard-t3709535/page4 based on this thread it also seems like Rooting causes people to lose theme functionality and AI functionality. So I can't even root!? very disappointed
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You can do systemless root without losing theme and AI. https://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-10/how-to/guide-mate-10-flash-oreo-update-package-t3716814
The Magisk module does not work either. The Bootloop is present

Connectivity issue after flashing

Can someone tell me how to fix the WIFI / Bluetooth issue after flashing. After flashing twrp and Havoc OS i have this issue. I have the stock boot.img from the stock rom, if that helps. any suggestions ? What do i do ?
So, i ended up reflashing the stock rom with miflashtool, and everything was solved. I guess the connectivity gets messed up when you flash the custom recovery, i probably didn't do it properly, i'm not used to the a/b slots...
Not gonna mess with it anytime soon. I didn't like the custom rom anyway... the corners were not smooth, and in apps the display was not always used poperly...
With the stock rom i just flashed magisk for root and a few modules that i have used in every phone...
With Android One and the stock ROM working so well it's frankly not worth it to mess with custom ROMs. As you say, just add magisk and a few modules and you're good to go. Ironically this phone has custom ROMs popping up left and right while other devices with terrible oem skins and bloat ware that could really use custom ROMs get nothing.
barth2 said:
With Android One and the stock ROM working so well it's frankly not worth it to mess with custom ROMs. As you say, just add magisk and a few modules and you're good to go. Ironically this phone has custom ROMs popping up left and right while other devices with terrible oem skins and bloat ware that could really use custom ROMs get nothing.
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I agree about everything you said ! But, you have to agree, myself, like most people here i presume, when we get a new smartphone, you have to mess with it a little bit. Where is the fun in having an iPhone for example, where you can't mess with anything ? (not judging or hating on iphones and their users, many people want that, and i perfectly understand) The most fun experience is when you mess up your phone and than try to fix it
And i have to say, i love this phone. It's amazing. Waiting for the official OTA for Android Q !
btw. when the update comes eventually, will magisk be an issue ? do i have to flash the stock boot.img to upgrade the os ?
hajdudu123 said:
I agree about everything you said ! But, you have to agree, myself, like most people here i presume, when we get a new smartphone, you have to mess with it a little bit. Where is the fun in having an iPhone for example, where you can't mess with anything ? (not judging or hating on iphones and their users, many people want that, and i perfectly understand) The most fun experience is when you mess up your phone and than try to fix it
And i have to say, i love this phone. It's amazing. Waiting for the official OTA for Android Q !
btw. when the update comes eventually, will magisk be an issue ? do i have to flash the stock boot.img to upgrade the os ?
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Yeah you haven't lived till you at it soft brick your phone [emoji3]
Depending on how you flashed your recovery, you may need to flash boot.img and possibly wipe your data. Hopefully only the first is necessary

Question Possible to make a custom rom?

I'm a amateur but i'm willing to learn and put the time in,
I have put custom roms on all my previous phones and tweaked them to my preferences, but I have no idea where to start from the ground up, as usually more people are creating/playing with the same phone, this one seems to be the ugly duckling, wich noone seems to bother with. I have requested the unlock bootloader with the goal of rooting the phone. But before I start going in this rabbit hole, is it possible, and where can I start.
It's a great phone, just too much bloatware, I even have a weird issue that I can't open my accessibility. It keeps closing settings. and I want the android base, not the ZUI OS.
Same question dude..
The software of legion duel 2 make me doubt purchase or not that phone...
Is the software is too bad ?
kheden said:
Same question dude..
The software of legion duel 2 make me doubt purchase or not that phone...
Is the software is too bad?
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It's working, and not that it's bad, but not a fan of zui os, and the bloatware, I guess this site spoiled me, I was expecting a twrp and some custom os. for example , it gets hot very quick, and I assume its the bloat ware running in the background. I think we get a better deal with stock android than the zui os, even if I have to give up the rgb on the back
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It's working, and not that it's bad, but not a fan of zui os, and the bloatware, I guess this site spoiled me, I was expecting a twrp and some custom os. for example , it gets hot very quick, and I assume its the bloat ware running in the background. I think we get a better deal with stock android than the zui os, even if I have to give up the rgb on the back
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Yes... I see similar things in the reviews and comparison of this phone...
The smartphone gets hot.. when shouldn't make it...the two fans in combination with the steam chamber and the multiple layers of dissipation should be enough to dispel the high temperature...
And makes me think, that is the bad optimization of the software...
In combination of the bad update supports of the Motorola/Lenovo's phones ...
Makes me doubt purchase this phone...
The salvation of the weakness point of this phone is the community :'c ...
Well said! That's exactly how I feel
If you have unlocked your bootloader, flash a generic system image, or GSI. You can check it out on Google. Not all features works though.
LR7875 said:
If you have unlocked your bootloader, flash a generic system image, or GSI. You can check it out on Google. Not all features works though.
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yes that is what I want to do, just looking into what won't work and if I can replace or tweak it before I take the jump and brick the phone
gargoylsz said:
yes that is what I want to do, just looking into what won't work and if I can replace or tweak it before I take the jump and brick the phone
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Curious that how can you bruteforce the bootloader unlock
Remember to disable Verity by flashing the vbmeta.img at here under 'install gsi images' https://developer.android.com/topic/generic-system-image
LR7875 said:
Curious that how can you bruteforce the bootloader unlock
Remember to disable Verity by flashing the vbmeta.img at here under 'install gsi images' https://developer.android.com/topic/generic-system-image
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I got the zui image, to unlock the boot loader, I still have to unlock it tho, and I want to try a gsi after that, I'm used to TWrp, and been a while since I put a gsi on a phone , but I should manage, I'll do it this weekend, I will keep you guys up to date, thanks for the tip, I will make sure to double check every step haha
gargoylsz said:
I got the zui image, to unlock the boot loader, I still have to unlock it tho, and I want to try a gsi after that, I'm used to TWrp, and been a while since I put a gsi on a phone , but I should manage, I'll do it this weekend, I will keep you guys up to date, thanks for the tip, I will make sure to double check every step haha
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GSIs are system images so you have to flash in fastboot(wipe in twrp first then fastboot flash system xxx.img)
At google's website, you can choose android 11 gsi, and even android 12 gsi. However they may not boot, if that's the case try luck with phh treble or erfangsi
LR7875 said:
GSIs are system images so you have to flash in fastboot(wipe in twrp first then fastboot flash system xxx.img)
At google's website, you can choose android 11 gsi, and even android 12 gsi. However they may not boot, if that's the case try luck with phh treble or erfangsi
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Thanks for the tips! I will try it out, wish me luck !
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Thanks for the tips! I will try it out, wish me luck !
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Good Luck!!
And posted the results
gargoylsz said:
I'm a amateur but i'm willing to learn and put the time in,
I have put custom roms on all my previous phones and tweaked them to my preferences, but I have no idea where to start from the ground up, as usually more people are creating/playing with the same phone, this one seems to be the ugly duckling, wich noone seems to bother with. I have requested the unlock bootloader with the goal of rooting the phone. But before I start going in this rabbit hole, is it possible, and where can I start.
It's a great phone, just too much bloatware, I even have a weird issue that I can't open my accessibility. It keeps closing settings. and I want the android base, not the ZUI OS.
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Do i have a different Duel 2?
Because i don't see any bloatware and it runs almost on stock Android.
WhySoSeriousJoKer said:
Do i have a different Duel 2?
Because i don't see any bloatware and it runs almost on stock Android.
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I have the UK version and their is next to no blotewere on mine and since the new update I get all notifications ect and have a decent GCam working which definitely improves the cameras to be fair I hated this phone at first but now it not too bad just hope they release a few updates to keep it running good also I have package disabler pro too get rid of a few apps I don't use
My only wish is they would change widevine L3 to L1
brockyneo said:
I have the UK version and their is next to no blotewere on mine and since the new update I get all notifications ect and have a decent GCam working which definitely improves the cameras to be fair I hated this phone at first but now it not too bad just hope they release a few updates to keep it running good also I have package disabler pro too get rid of a few apps I don't use
My only wish is they would change widevine L3 to L1
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Widevine is L3??? WTF????
bs3pro said:
Widevine is L3??? WTF????
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Yep unfortunately I hope they change it as I've heard that the China ROM has widevine L1
brockyneo said:
I have the UK version and their is next to no blotewere on mine and since the new update I get all notifications ect and have a decent GCam working which definitely improves the cameras to be fair I hated this phone at first but now it not too bad just hope they release a few updates to keep it running good also I have package disabler pro too get rid of a few apps I don't use
My only wish is they would change widevine L3 to L1
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Hey there, what is you version? Is it 12.5.137 stable?
ABOBA34 said:
Hey there, what is you version? Is it 12.5.137 stable?
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Yes that's the version I'm on and it seems fine all is working ok for me seems better then before
brockyneo said:
Yes that's the version I'm on and it seems fine all is working ok for me seems better then before
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Thank you for answer! Did you get it over OTA? I`m still on 12.5.062 and there is no update...
ABOBA34 said:
Thank you for answer! Did you get it over OTA? I`m still on 12.5.062 and there is no update...
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It was OTA but it took a few days I think Lenovo release updates on sales so if you just bought the device it will take a few days to arrive but it will come
Are you in the uk?

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Here was a Guide. Someone said people don't care about Me or My Work so...​
Feedback is always welcome! <3
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Feedback is always welcome! <3
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I could not find the
GSI "Starter Pack" (From Google) from this link.
Could you please be more specific and tell us which GSI will work (Android 12, 11, or 10, and ARM64+GMS, ARM64, x86_64+GMS, or x86_64.). Thanks.
I want to unlock my bootloader and root my 3 iii but I have read something about needing to back up and restore DRM keys otherweise some camera features and other stuff wont work anymore. Is that something that needs to be done on this phone and also, what exactly is the GSI stuff? It looks like that is an entire rom or something. Do we need to flash/install that? I am fine with the stock firmware. Im out of my element with this Sony stuff.
[email protected] said:
I could not find the
GSI "Starter Pack" (From Google) from this link.
Could you please be more specific and tell us which GSI will work (Android 12, 11, or 10, and ARM64+GMS, ARM64, x86_64+GMS, or x86_64.). Thanks.
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Hey, the "Starter Pack" is just another Name for the Google Zip which includes GSI and vbmeta. We are on ARM64 and GMS means GApps are included. Please read a bit about how Treble and GSIs are working and start from there. x86_64 btw. is the Dekstop Platform (Like Intel or AMD PCs). Basic knowledge
Don't want to make this an Info/Wiki Thread or so...
Hippie459MN said:
I want to unlock my bootloader and root my 3 iii but I have read something about needing to back up and restore DRM keys otherweise some camera features and other stuff wont work anymore. Is that something that needs to be done on this phone and also, what exactly is the GSI stuff? It looks like that is an entire rom or something. Do we need to flash/install that? I am fine with the stock firmware. Im out of my element with this Sony stuff.
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That Informations are old and obsolete. Hardware works just fine after unlocking (On all Xperias since 2019), DRMs can be restored like i wrote in the Guide. We are using OLED HDR Displays. So don't care about Bravia or such stuff. Only Netflix and Video Enhancements aside from the Creator Mode are not working if unlocked. But AOSP is here and ROMs are also coming based on SODP and AOSP (With Mainline Kernels (Or GKI)) Please also read about Treble and GSIs before You start! It's a thing since Android 8 on all Android Devices. So it will be good to know! GKIs are also coming to all Android Devices soon...
How can I convert Xperia 1 IIi Docomo SO-51b to Global version?
You can try to use another (EU/US) Firmware with NewFlasher but no warranty that it will work @nchmaster
You should check the Basebands compatibility before so make sure You're flashing a Firmware that works with Your Countries Bands.
Miustone said:
You can try to use another (EU/US) Firmware with NewFlasher but no warranty that it will work @nchmaster
You should check the Basebands compatibility before so make sure You're flashing a Firmware that works with Your Countries Bands.
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Many thanks!!! How can i check the baseband?
What's the role of GSI?
MK73DS said:
What's the role of GSI?
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And is it needed to simply root the phone?
Hippie459MN said:
And is it needed to simply root the phone?
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No it isn't. That's why I am asking. I got my Xperia 1 iii a few weeks ago (before this tutorial) and did the exact same steps but without the GSI thing and everything works fine.
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No it isn't. That's why I am asking. I got my Xperia 1 iii a few weeks ago (before this tutorial) and did the exact same steps but without the GSI thing and everything works fine.
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Perfect. I tried to ask that before and was just told to read up on GSI. That wasnt any real help to my question. lol I was looking it over and it looked like it was a really vanilla version of android more less for app developers so I was c onfused if it was in fact needed to simply root the phone.
Hippie459MN said:
Perfect. I tried to ask that before and was just told to read up on GSI. That wasnt any real help to my question. lol I was looking it over and it looked like it was a really vanilla version of android more less for app developers so I was c onfused if it was in fact needed to simply root the phone.
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You missed the Point of GSIs...
Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS
Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS
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I asked what it was exactly and do we need to install it for the root process. By the way, it is not needed for the rooting process. I have successfully rooted the phone so thank you for the tutorial.
Just a suggestion, you should maybe add that after you flash the edited boot image to A and B and you reboot the phone, you will have to reinstall Magisk just to save some possible confusion as its no longer installed from being wiped during the bootloader unlock process.
Hippie459MN said:
I asked what it was exactly and do we need to install it for the root process. By the way, it is not needed for the rooting process. I have successfully rooted the phone so thank you for the tutorial.
Just a suggestion, you should maybe add that after you flash the edited boot image to A and B and you reboot the phone, you will have to reinstall Magisk just to save some possible confusion as its no longer installed from being wiped during the bootloader unlock process.
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Sorry for the confusion! I hadn't time to give a good answer...
And I will realize your Suggestion about the order of steps. Thread Updates will come after I wake up
Hope the Guide is better now! Let Me know if You have additions!
Miustone said:
Hope the Guide is better now! Let Me know if You have additions!
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Hi sorry I'm still confused, could you copy over name of the exact zip you are saying we should download?
https://imgur.com/a/ZXnMEeY
Which one is the "starter" pack.
Kylewolf said:
Hi sorry I'm still confused, could you copy over name of the exact zip you are saying we should download?
https://imgur.com/a/ZXnMEeY
Which one is the "starter" pack.
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The "starter" pack is just another name for either gsi_gms_arm64-...zip or aosp_arm64-...zip. If you want Google apps then you choose gsi_gms_arm64-...zip, if you do not want Google apps then choose aosp_arm64-...zip. Both of these zip files contain only the system.img and vbmeta.img.
[email protected] said:
The "starter" pack is just another name for either gsi_gms_arm64-...zip or aosp_arm64-...zip. If you want Google apps then you choose gsi_gms_arm64-...zip, if you do not want Google apps then choose aosp_arm64-...zip. Both of these zip files contain only the system.img and vbmeta.img.
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Sorry I guess I'm a bit new to this, the phone will still be running a version of the stock rom after this guide with an unlocked bootloader and magisk right?
Kylewolf said:
Sorry I guess I'm a bit new to this, the phone will still be running a version of the stock rom after this guide with an unlocked bootloader and magisk right?
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GSI means General System Image. Systems are the Main OS You are using. Flash a GSI and it isn't Stock anymore... Don't replace the System If You want to keep Stock!

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