Hi everyone.
I've pre-ordered an S23 Ultra and have also purchased a 2 year Samsung Care + plan. I've been using a OnePlus 5 from 5+ years now and the last Samsung device I used was Galaxy S2.
Since Samsung's warranty becomes void if the Knox is tripped, my question is, in case there is a screen/ hardware damage to a rooted device, can it be claimed for repair/ replacement under Samsung Care+?
Because in case a rooted device will not be considered under Samsung Care+ plan too, I think I would prefer to cancel the plan. I'm looking for your suggestions on this. I am located in Canada.
P.s. I see the following exception point mentioned in the T&C's of Samsung Care+, "Device malfunction or damage due to improper installation on, or improper equipment modification to the device."
It's up to Samsung. They may charge you for a new mobo as part of the repair. I would use abd edits to optimize it instead.
Drops will likely be it's biggest enemy; use a good case. These are heavy, corner hitting, face planting happy phones when dropped. With no case a 3 foot drop onto concrete will likely damage it.
You can't trip Knox or root your phone on the Canadian or US S23U. And Samsung Care+ in Canada is only for Canadian phones. So I'm not sure why you're even worrying about this problem?
peacey8 said:
You can't trip Knox or root your phone on the Canadian or US S23U. And Samsung Care+ in Canada is only for Canadian phones. So I'm not sure why you're even worrying about this problem?
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How can you not trip Knox when rooting? Isn't it an electric fuse that trips when the bootloader is unlocked and rooted?
amirage said:
How can you not trip Knox when rooting? Isn't it an electric fuse that trips when the bootloader is unlocked and rooted?
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I guess they can't unlock bootloader so no chance for knox trip.
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Joloxx9 said:
I guess they can't unlock bootloader so no chance for knox trip.
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Isn't necessary to unlock the bootloader to root the device?
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Isn't necessary to unlock the bootloader to root the device?
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It is necessary and unlocking bootloader trips knox
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It is necessary and unlocking bootloader trips knox
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So, this goes back to @peacey8. How is it possible to not trip Knox when unlocking the bootloader unless there's a country regulation stipulating this?
There currently is no way to unlock the bootloader in the US and Canada. Additionally there is no working root exploit for these phones. It should be near impossible to trip Knox in the locked state. So it's nothing to worry about.
Unlocking the bootloader doesn't trip the Knox efuse, loading an unauthorized bootloader does.
Apparently paid services have been able to unlock the N10+'s and maybe other Snaps. I'm not that interested so haven't followed this too closely. The remote service could potentially install malware and I refuse to risk bricking a valuable device.
blackhawk said:
It's up to Samsung. They may charge you for a new mobo as part of the repair. I would use abd edits to optimize it instead.
Drops will likely be it's biggest enemy; use a good case. These are heavy, corner hitting, face planting happy phones when dropped. With no case a 3 foot drop onto concrete will likely damage it.
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Hi what's abd edits?
It's up to the person checking. Some may take it in for warranty even if the knox is tripped but some won't. I've had that experience before.
marvi0 said:
Hi what's abd edits?
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Using ADB commands to remove bloatware is probably the most common example.
amirage said:
So, this goes back to @peacey8. How is it possible to not trip Knox when unlocking the bootloader unless there's a country regulation stipulating this?
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You cannot unlock the bootloader on North American variants. Only European. So my point is this question is moot, not that Knox won't be tripped if you unlock bootloader.
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You can't trip Knox or root your phone on the Canadian or US S23U. And Samsung Care+ in Canada is only for Canadian phones. So I'm not sure why you're even worrying about this problem?
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Omg! I've recently shifted to Canada and was not aware about this.
Now I wonder, why did I order this 1900 CA$ device.
Is there no way to unlock bootloader in Canadian S23 Ultra units? I am unsure if I'd be able to manage with a phone without an ability to flash a custom ROM.
therealashish said:
Is there no way to unlock bootloader in Canadian S23 Ultra units?
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Not at this time.
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I am unsure if I'd be able to manage with a phone without an ability to flash a custom ROM.
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Might as well get used to it as this is the way the industry is going. For example OnePlus 11 allows unlocking the bootloader but there is no longer a free way to fix your device if you brick it since the 9RT came out. This has meant that the 10T and 10 Pro have had basically no development.
Pixels have unlockable bootloader still and plenty of custom ROMs are available but... well... you'll be dealing with a lot of other headaches like a battery that probably won't even make it 24 hours on wifi and much less than that on 5G thanks to an inferior Samsung modem. They also have random hardware problems like I've had my screen start flickering and eventually get green lines twice on my Pixel 7 Pro and there have been many others reporting similar issues and now there are reports of pieces straight up falling off the phone surfacing too and this thing has only been out since October...
Pick your poison I guess.
wow , this is nuts . Any reason why other than make sure they sell their own software?
5-8 years ago we were laughing about Apple, but now android are doing the same thing.
Those phone a solid 8 years phone power wise, and the only way to keep them updated is aftermarket ROM !
OP, Im coming also from a OnePLus 5, and also from canada.
I also paid 1900$.
And I'm starting to regret my choice, I have only few days to return it.
Should I get a Oneplus 11 ???
I have had Android Phones since the OG T-Mobile G1. Back then, I rooted EVERY phone I have had.
Now, what is the big deal about Rooting? EVERYTHING I rooted for, you can do now without rooting. I don't get it.
Maybe I am just getting old? LOL!
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Now, what is the big deal about Rooting? EVERYTHING I rooted for, you can do now without rooting.
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There are still some apps that don't work without root. For example I use Network Signal Guru to read the QCI and report my findings back to reddit. I also use root so that I can take screenshots of any app or screen I choose (the secure flag really irritates me - even Apple doesn't dictate where and when you can take a screenshot of crap on your own device yet I can't even take a screenshot of the Comcast cap usage screen to send to my roommate unless I log into their website).
I can live without both of these things which is why I decided to get the S23U but I'll miss them regardless.
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There are still some apps that don't work without root. For example I use Network Signal Guru to read the QCI and report my findings back to reddit. I also use root so that I can take screenshots of any app or screen I choose (the secure flag really irritates me - even Apple doesn't dictate where and when you can take a screenshot of crap on your own device yet I can't even take a screenshot of the Comcast cap usage screen to send to my roommate unless I log into their website).
I can live without both of these things which is why I decided to get the S23U but I'll miss them regardless.
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Thanks!! I get that some apps won't work without root, but it seems now that people want to root more to say they did than have a real reason for it.
I e given up on rooting mainly because of the inherent stability issue with Custom ROMs and the constant flashing.
Again, I just may be getting old. Lol!!!
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I just received my S6E and I know I read earlier that CF noted that rooting may trip KNOX and disable the mobile payment system. Has anyone been able to verify whether or not this is actually the case? I'd love to root my phone, if for no other reason but to get Titanium up and running but I really would like to keep the mobile payment system intact. Thanks in advance.
Update: I have trouble reading sometimes and didn't realize/remember that Samsung Pay won't be available until later this summer. However, if anyone does come across any additional information related to this, I would be happy to hear about it.
Yes, unfortunatelly rooting your s6/s6 edge may disable the phone’s ability to use samsung pay, so be carefull.
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Before actually rooting though, consider that KNOX will likely be tripped, and there's a good chance untripped KNOX will be required for phone based payments.
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Webster259 said:
I just received my S6E and I know I read earlier that CF noted that rooting may trip KNOX and disable the mobile payment system. Has anyone been able to verify whether or not this is actually the case? I'd love to root my phone, if for no other reason but to get Titanium up and running but I really would like to keep the mobile payment system intact. Thanks in advance.
Update: I have trouble reading sometimes and didn't realize/remember that Samsung Pay won't be available until later this summer. However, if anyone does come across any additional information related to this, I would be happy to hear about it.
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I'm curious to know this too. I ALWAYS root my Android phones especially for Adblocker and even more importantly Greenify. I'm worried tripping the Knox sensor will make it so I can't use Samsung Pay and I'd really like to use that, especially since it even works with magnetic readers! I'm worried that since SP won't launch until the Summer that no one will truly know what effect, if any, tripping the Knox sensor will have. I'm going to hold off on rooting for now, as tough as I KNOW that will be LOL.
Yeah sucks but I'm. Holing off too. I mainly root for custom roms and kernel... But do far the phone is managing well so. I can definitely hold off
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Considering that I can't stay without:
Titanium Backup Pro
AdBlock Plus for Android (without having to do stuff manually)
Xposed Framework
Unlocked Tethering
And who know what else!
I will definitely root and who cares if I won't be able to use Samsung Pay!
There are still other payment system coming out or already existing!
I haven't rooted because of Samsung Pay and also because we'll I mainly. Root. For custom recoveries and roms which none are available as the device isn't widely available
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Now that this phone is officially released, has anyone found a way to root it? I have the sprint version which is the ls992 and I want to root it. I saw a one click tool online but it's not in XDA so I don't think it's reliable. Thanks for any help
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By the way, in case any of you were wondering, I'm coming from the LG g3 (ls990). I like the smaller screen, the fingerprint reader is very responsive, I dislike the moved volume buttons, dislike the audio jack being moved to the top although it DOES sound better, actually a good bit clearer. It feels really good in my hand but does get hotter than the LG g3. The material on the back has a good grippy feel almost, it's not particularly slick which is a good thing. I could hardly use my g3 with the stock back because of how slick it was. The cameras are PHENOMENAL. All of the picture modes provided are outstanding and not just gimmicks in my opinion.
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JCase claims to have a root method already but refuses to release it... even with his rep I doubt his claims.
If the bootloader is unlockable, it should be relatively easy to do.
I also have the Sprint version. The only thing that's keeping me from getting it rooted so far is the inability to get it into Fastboot to flash a custom recovery.
I've documented my findings so far here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/sprint-lg-g5/how-to/bootloader-unlock-root-ive-t3350356
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I also have the Sprint version. The only thing that's keeping me from getting it rooted so far is the inability to get it into Fastboot to flash a custom recovery.
I've documented my findings so far here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/sprint-lg-g5/how-to/bootloader-unlock-root-ive-t3350356
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So the Sprint version has BL locked?
islandfever said:
So the Sprint version has BL locked?
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It appears so. I can't even get into fastboot.
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It appears so. I can't even get into fastboot.
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Well bad news from Tmobile - I currently have the sprint ls990 LG G3 and decided to make the move to tmobile for the G5 because I was sick of locked bootloaders. The tmobile g5 does indeed have an unlockable bootloader however, LG seems to be using a custom bootloader on the G5 that wont flash anything that isnt verified. Tmobile's G5 already has a TWRP build and noone can flash it because of dm-verity. Essentially the tmobile appears to have an unlocked bootloader but lg has changed the bootloader so that it cant flash anything. That's the current status and I should add that I have not been able to try anything for myself because my phone hasnt arrived yet. But if that is the case on T-Mobile, then it's going to be even harder on Verizon, AT&T and Sprint.
its locked but there's an unlock switch in the developers' options.
I came from lg g3 as well. Massive improvement and loving it so far.I have it thru verizon. Hoping for root soon that's all I really care about.
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ROOT????
Well, Made the jump for my lg g3, which loved, but this phone is quite a bit more awesome... Now all we need is root... Where are all the big hitters like @jcase, @autoprime, @Shelnutt2, @thecubed (IOMonster)??? I know one of these masterminds can get'r done...
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Well, Made the jump for my lg g3, which loved, but this phone is quite a bit more awesome... Now all we need is root... Where are all the big hitters like @jcase, @autoprime, @Shelnutt2, @thecubed (IOMonster)??? I know one of these masterminds can get'r done...
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Not with a locked bootloader unless an exploit is found. It looks like the same uphill climb as with the SD820 S7/S7E now.
So for now no root, no development
fiddy619 said:
Well, Made the jump for my lg g3, which loved, but this phone is quite a bit more awesome... Now all we need is root... Where are all the big hitters like @jcase, @autoprime, @Shelnutt2, @thecubed (IOMonster)??? I know one of these masterminds can get'r done...
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May see something at a talk later this year
Omg, if anyone can get this thing rooted, I'll throw 50 bucks your way. This is the only thing keeping my from buying this device 0.0
ill throw 100$ your way right now to get this phone rooted @jcase
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ill throw 100$ your way right now to get this phone rooted @jcase
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Me too.
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This would be the best phone, but no root or aosp/cm just kills it. So useless. Way too many new phones that are for "noobs" only. No unlock, no root, no use. Makes me so mad at these oem's
Locklear308 said:
This would be the best phone, but no root or aosp/cm just kills it. So useless. Way too many new phones that are for "noobs" only. No unlock, no root, no use. Makes me so mad at these oem's
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It saves them a lot of time and money. Any noob able to root and unlock could accidentally flash the complete wrong system and recovery resulting in a pretty hard brick and if they allow rooting and unlocking then they would be kind of obligated to help them fix it. Even if they said it voided the warranty then they would still get tons of calls complaining.
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fenguepay said:
It saves them a lot of time and money. Any noob able to root and unlock could accidentally flash the complete wrong system and recovery resulting in a pretty hard brick and if they allow rooting and unlocking then they would be kind of obligated to help them fix it. Even if they said it voided the warranty then they would still get tons of calls complaining.
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That just doesn't make any sense though, if I buy a laptop, and or a desktop, and I install Linux and then it blows up, they're just going to tell me LOL sorry too bad. Same thing should go for phones. But if something unrelated to the software messes up, I would expect them to cover it no matter what, just like on my laptop, while I am not running the original OS software that came with it, they honor the warranty for the headphone jack breaking. Because that has absolutely nothing to do with it. The point is, if I buy something it is mine, I should have an absolute one-hundred-percent administrator privileges on any device that I can purchase. If not I need to get an extremely heavy discount for not truly owning the device.
But this is getting off topic, the whole point is that we really need to get the G5 rooted, because it honestly would be the best Android device out there if it was rooted.
Imagine this thing in running cm13, it will be perfect. Good camera, type c, replaceable battery so that way it doesn't have a finite life span, micro SD for super music users like myself. And upgrade modules , it's the future.
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That just doesn't make any sense though, if I buy a laptop, and or a desktop, and I install Linux and then it blows up, they're just going to tell me LOL sorry too bad. Same thing should go for phones. But if something unrelated to the software messes up, I would expect them to cover it no matter what, just like on my laptop, while I am not running the original OS software that came with it, they honor the warranty for the headphone jack breaking. Because that has absolutely nothing to do with it. The point is, if I buy something it is mine, I should have an absolute one-hundred-percent administrator privileges on any device that I can purchase. If not I need to get an extremely heavy discount for not truly owning the device.
But this is getting off topic, the whole point is that we really need to get the G5 rooted, because it honestly would be the best Android device out there if it was rooted.
Imagine this thing in running cm13, it will be perfect. Good camera, type c, replaceable battery so that way it doesn't have a finite life span, micro SD for super music users like myself. And upgrade modules , it's the future.
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I think it mostly has to do with them not wanting the end user to be able to modify the device to get around things like paid hotspots and such. Carriers like sprint that have unlimited data but a paid by the GB hotspot plan potentially lose lots of money off of users getting it free with root. Also you probably have an ISP that rents you a cable modem. Those things are locked down and while you can buy your own - their locked down one, if modified can potentially increase speeds or bypass a meter. I think that ISPs (including cell carriers) like complete control so they can grab every penny and make it difficult to escape their grasps. Once again these are just my assumptions so I could be horribly wrong.
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anyone a idea how to downgrade the firmware pre unsafe 60-80% charge limit...
withoud knox trip... i must wait 3 weeks to replace note 7 so want the 100% back
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escobar035 said:
anyone a idea how to downgrade the firmware pre unsafe 60-80% charge limit...
withoud knox trip... i must wait 3 weeks to replace note 7 so want the 100% back
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Not possible at this time.
You should have taken the appropriate preventative measures to not allow the update to happen in the first place as your stuck with it now.
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How come you cannot flash back to earlier stock rom?
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How come you cannot flash back to earlier stock rom?
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Fails in odin...did you really think that samsung would allow that to happen lol? They have blocked roll backs for years on and off and in this case it was kind of a given we couldn't roll back
We may find a way around it but not right now
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Fails in odin...did you really think that samsung would allow that to happen lol? They have blocked roll backs for years on and off and in this case it was kind of a given we couldn't roll back
We may find a way around it but not right now
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Lol, No I didn't think they would. Oh well my replacement is due nest week so I'll make do till then.
There must be some way to downgrade...
I don't know when will they replace my phone in Pakistan and this capping is bothering me..
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Fails in odin...did you really think that samsung would allow that to happen lol? They have blocked roll backs for years on and off and in this case it was kind of a given we couldn't roll back
We may find a way around it but not right now
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At what level it fails? Usually it is bootloader and modem.
Simply extract system.img and boot.img from old firmware, make tar and try to flash should work.
Or void warranty and flash custom rom
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At what level it fails? Usually it is bootloader and modem.
Simply extract system.img and boot.img from old firmware, make tar and try to flash should work.
Or void warranty and flash custom rom
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I havent tried it, i blocked the OTA
Been a fee guys here have tried it and it failed.
I agree with you its likely the bootloader but if you extract as mentioned i wonder if that will remove the 60% battery cap?
Your updated rom still has the battery cap if on an affected device if Im not mistaken. People want to remove that 60% battery cap so they can use their devices normally until replacements come
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I havent tried it, i blocked the OTA
Been a fee guys here have tried it and it failed.
I agree with you its likely the bootloader but if you extract as mentioned i wonder if that will remove the 60% battery cap?
Your updated rom still has the battery cap if on an affected device if Im not mistaken. People want to remove that 60% battery cap so they can use their devices normally until replacements come
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Of course my rom have it and intentionally I have keep it there as safety measures, Samsung have recommended.
Still users can extent it to 80% and which is I believe fine too. It's very easy to fake safe battery and possible to get ability to charge fully (I posted in other thread) on even latest base but this will mislead by enabling green battery so not to implement for safety purpose.
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Of course my rom have it and intentionally I have keep it there as safety measures, Samsung have recommended.
Still users can extent it to 80% and which is I believe fine too. It's very easy to fake safe battery and possible to get ability to charge fully (I posted in other thread) on even latest base but this will mislead by enabling green battery so not to implement for safety purpose.
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Agreed 100%
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In some countries there is no official replacement program. I am about to have the limitation like forever. A solution to downgrade would be perfect.
Try doing a factory reset, it worked for me. But, don't know if it works for everyone.
lynx2025 said:
In some countries there is no official replacement program. I am about to have the limitation like forever. A solution to downgrade would be perfect.
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How? Contact Samung or some users rights...
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How? Contact Samung or some users rights...
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Look by yourself in Samsungt official websites. See in how many countries they have representations. Look specially in africa. It's a very few countries. If you dig into news in sub Saharan africa, it's only in Nigeria where officials made a statement to question samsung about what they were planning regarding the country. And they threatened to ban samsung products. It's only in this case that they came up with a plan. Have a global look. In plenty countries there are no samsung official shops. Shops are just branded samsung because they order a lot. But there is no official link between these shops and samsung itself. So there is no recall or replacement plan. I even bought the phone in a cross border country. The guys apparently travelled by themselves to get 3 units in in dubaï. They are not willing to move a finger for me.
I have a limited phone for nothing. No solution to get it replaced.
See for yourself. Dig into samsung system and see by yourself how is the global situation related to replacement program.
It's not all about USA and Europe. It's a whole world concern.
Community has to do something for people like me.
I am not asking for a green battery icon. I am asking for a way to get my 100% battery back. And a way to have a custom rom. I think they even limited the phone's capacities because it suddenly became one of the worst samsung unit I had since note 3. I never saw a phone so slow since note 2.
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Look by yourself in Samsungt official websites. See in how many countries they have representations. Look specially in africa. It's a very few countries. If you dig into news in sub Saharan africa, it's only in Nigeria where officials made a statement to question samsung about what they were planning regarding the country. And they threatened to ban samsung products. It's only in this case that they came up with a plan. Have a global look. In plenty countries there are no samsung official shops. Shops are just branded samsung because they order a lot. But there is no official link between these shops and samsung itself. So there is no recall or replacement plan. I even bought the phone in a cross border country. The guys apparently travelled by themselves to get 3 units in in dubaï. They are not willing to move a finger for me.
I have a limited phone for nothing. No solution to get it replaced.
See for yourself. Dig into samsung system and see by yourself how is the global situation related to replacement program.
It's not all about USA and Europe. It's a whole world concern.
Community has to do something for people like me.
I am not asking for a green battery icon. I am asking for a way to get my 100% battery back. And a way to have a custom rom. I think they even limited the phone's capacities because it suddenly became one of the worst samsung unit I had since note 3. I never saw a phone so slow since note 2.
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Rly sad to hear that... I what about dubai Samsung... Wouldn't it be possible to send the phone there and get the exchange?
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mk89pwnz said:
Rly sad to hear that... I what about dubai Samsung... Wouldn't it be possible to send the phone there and get the exchange?
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I am in west africa. How much do you think it would cost to send a phone in dubaï? And who do I send the phone to? How will I get a replacement unit? How will a take it ?
Can you imagine like getting your phone replaced from USA to europe? Even in this situation it would be possible. What about the case for people like me?
Samsung should pay all costs... writing to samsung dubai won't hurt
i've sent mine back with knox trip 0x1 and with ketan custom rom^^ no problem with the exchange (Germany)
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I am in west africa. How much do you think it would cost to send a phone in dubaï? And who do I send the phone to? How will I get a replacement unit? How will a take it ?
Can you imagine like getting your phone replaced from USA to europe? Even in this situation it would be possible. What about the case for people like me?
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I hope you get it sorted out.
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iPoku said:
Try doing a factory reset, it worked for me. But, don't know if it works for everyone.
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You confirm you already had the 60% limitation and the factory reset allowed you to downgrade ? Just to confirm. Please let me know.
Like how it was achieved with the s8+?
What are everyone's thoughts?
Any major developers coming to the s9?
Do you really want root with no twrp and 80% battery?
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Do you really want root with no twrp and 80% battery?
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I'd take it. Currently been on a LGv30 since it's release with no sign of root in sight for it.
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Like how it was achieved with the s8+?
What are everyone's thoughts?
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I think ..... sadly not.... I just cannot get over the fact that it is sooooooooooo harrdddddd to root .. 80% battery is not for me by any means. I will do my best to curb my temptation to get this device but who knows. If google allows an unlocked bootloader, not sure why Samsung won't
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If google allows an unlocked bootloader, not sure why Samsung won't
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Of course they deny it and blame Samsung for locking the bootloader, but I think it's T-Mobile who deliberately orders their phones with locked bootloader.
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Of course they deny it and blame Samsung for locking the bootloader, but I think it's T-Mobile who deliberately orders their phones with locked bootloader.
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Yeah it's all of them. Carriers, Qualcomm, and Samsung. Just to collect that 10 or 5 bucks hotspot as a monthly fee. Also so they can re-sell the phone after without having the knox tripped.
They're cheap.
I can't believe I am reading all this techie stuff..
But I cannot stand this S9+ with its unremoveable default apps that just keep popping up ..
I would settle for a solution that let get rid of the FKN Games and Game icon..
I finally got rid of Bixbie… painfully...
I HATE SAMSUNG for these forced apps getting the best real estate..
I've searched and just got my new S9+ coming from LG and forums here are so different in gathering info. Is this variant rootable yet? If so can someone post a link... In the mean time I'll keep searching. :silly:
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I've searched and just got my new S9+ coming from LG and forums here are so different in gathering info. Is this variant rootable yet? If so can someone post a link... In the mean time I'll keep searching. :silly:
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Nope it's not, and will be a loooooooong time before it is.
Well? After much research I was able to disable bloatware, get YouTube ad free and some more all without root. Honestly? This phone is good enough not to root really. I usually rooted to get a kernel to speed things up and get less lag, amazingly there's no need. Also for Xposed but I also don't see the need. So waiting for something that now I feel is not needed is ok. But having the itch to root will always exist. Lol
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Well? After much research I was able to disable bloatware, get YouTube ad free and some more all without root. Honestly? This phone is good enough not to root really. I usually rooted to get a kernel to speed things up and get less lag, amazingly there's no need. Also for Xposed but I also don't see the need. So waiting for something that now I feel is not needed is ok. But having the itch to root will always exist. Lol
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Well now you got me happy cuz this is my first phone that's locked down, and Im shocked at how much bloat there is. Fnucking Facebook?
If you can point me to some helpful threads that would be awesome - I keep coming up with Exynos threads
Pashovski said:
Well now you got me happy cuz this is my first phone that's locked down, and Im shocked at how much bloat there is. Fnucking Facebook?
If you can point me to some helpful threads that would be awesome - I keep coming up with Exynos threads
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I'm on Snapdragon directly from T-mobile in the US.
Very little bloatware installed. And what was there I was able to uninstall easily including Facebook.
This was the first device I've owned that I've been able to do this without root.
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I have a question if i was to purchase a Samsiung galaxy s9+ from samsung themselves, will i be able to root the phone at that point.
I have been on iPhone for a long period of time because it is so easy to Jailbreak a phone once the program comes out, its just one click and done. I always recalled android phone goes through steps in order to be rooted, and i do mean really long steps, and the smallest mess up would brick the phone, i know now that the bricking the phone is a lot less likely. But it is still hard to root the phone..
Also back in the day, all android phones can be rooted except for Verizon Android phones. Now all carrier Samsung galaxy phones cant be or takes time to root. things have changed in the community i see.
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I have a question if i was to purchase a Samsiung galaxy s9+ from samsung themselves, will i be able to root the phone at that point.
I have been on iPhone for a long period of time because it is so easy to Jailbreak a phone once the program comes out, its just one click and done. I always recalled android phone goes through steps in order to be rooted, and i do mean really long steps, and the smallest mess up would brick the phone, i know now that the bricking the phone is a lot less likely. But it is still hard to root the phone..
Also back in the day, all android phones can be rooted except for Verizon Android phones. Now all carrier Samsung galaxy phones cant be or takes time to root. things have changed in the community i see.
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With iphones you have to jailbreak just to get it semi-useful. My tmo s9+ had hardly anything already on it that wasn't easily removable. No need for root IMO.
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With iphones you have to jailbreak just to get it semi-useful. My tmo s9+ had hardly anything already on it that wasn't easily removable. No need for root IMO.
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Well, the main reason why I want to root is to find a bypass for the tethering. Example: On the iPhone there is a application called (Tetherme) it pretty much bypass the tethering provision so that the hotspot usage shows up as Phone usage not Hotspot usage.
I want to do that on the Samsung Galaxy s9+, I want to use the native tethering connectivity that is on the device and have it show up as phone usage not hotspot usage.
What I'm going to end up doing is selling my phone in order to purchase one directly from Samsung.
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Well, the main reason why I want to root is to find a bypass for the tethering. Example: On the iPhone there is a application called (Tetherme) it pretty much bypass the tethering provision so that the hotspot usage shows up as Phone usage not Hotspot usage.
I want to do that on the Samsung Galaxy s9+, I want to use the native tethering connectivity that is on the device and have it show up as phone usage not hotspot usage.
What I'm going to end up doing is selling my phone in order to purchase one directly from Samsung.
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Same over here iwant hotspot tether s9 plus iwas om iPhone 6s plus jailbroken I miss my hot spot :crying: