Hi guys. I am trying to use my Realme buds wireless pro with LDAC codec on my s23 ultra but I can't change it from aac. What do you think? I tried to do this in developer options. I really appreciate your advise.
LDAC is available as an option (I use Sony WF-1000XM4), but as soon as I select it, the modal is closed and the codec switches back to AAC. I suspect it to be a firmware issue, as my S22 Ultra (Exynos) was able to use the LDAC with those headphones and my Audio-Technica ATH-M50xBT2 without issues (I haven't tried the latest on the S23 Ultra yet, though).
Jaxom84 said:
LDAC is available as an option (I use Sony WF-100XM4), but as soon as I select it, the modal is closed and the codec switches back to AAC. I suspect it to be a firmware issue, as my S22 Ultra (Exynos) was able to use the LDAC with those headphones and my Audio-Technica ATH-M50xBT2 without issues (I haven't tried the latest on the S23 Ultra yet, though).
found out that we must see the buds settings in the app and choose LDAC. Then will work..
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It works for me now
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It works for me now
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Great, at least for one of us.
Normally, my WF-1000XM4 are able to switch automatically from AAC to LDAC depending on the priority you set (connection's stability for AAC and audio fidelity for LDAC), but LDAC seems to not be currently reachable. I'll quickly check around to see if I missed something.
Edit: I tried a few things but nothing seems to be able to solve this for now. I'll compensate with the Dolby Atmos until a solution appears.
Sony must have an app for your buds. Look if you find it and try in settings of this app.
Good luck!
Is LDAC activated in Settings - Connections - Bluetooth - WF-1000XM4?
I think that is what you have to do..
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Is LDAC activated in Settings - Connections - Bluetooth - WF-1000XM4?
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Exactly that! So dumb of me... Thanks for the reminder.
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Sony must have an app for your buds. Look if you find it and try in settings of this app.
Good luck!
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Yes, the Sony Headphones app was already set up for LDAC, it was just a mistake from my side to haven't checked the Bluetooth profile of the WF-1000XM4.
Thanks for your help, guys. 🫡
Comrades, if you guys got the galaxy buds 2 pro, you really must give it a try. God damn, they sound sweet and can easily give the XM4 a run for their money. You may need to change the tips to those with the XM4s..the stock buds tips are garbage.
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Comrades, if you guys got the galaxy buds 2 pro, you really must give it a try. God damn, they sound sweet and can easily give the XM4 a run for their money. You may need to change the tips to those with the XM4s..the stock buds tips are garbage.
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I kept the ones offered as "S23 Ultra early-adopter" bonus for my wife, but I assume the proprietary codec from Samsung is doing fine? I'll ask her to let me try them to have a comparison, though. 🫡
But for someone looking for a new pair of TWS (and outside of the launch offer), I would still recommend the WF-1000XM4. They are quite discounted, these days, so as the price range is pretty close I'm not sure that the Buds 2 Pro are that comparable (overall specs), especially since the multi-point has been confirmed to arrive soon (during winter, if Sony keeps its word).
But thanks for the recommendation, it tickled my interest!
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I kept the ones offered as "S23 Ultra early-adopter" bonus for my wife, but I assume the proprietary codec from Samsung is doing fine? I'll ask her to let me try them to have a comparison, though. 🫡
But for someone looking for a new pair of TWS (and outside of the launch offer), I would still recommend the WF-1000XM4. They are quite discounted, these days, so as the price range is pretty close I'm not sure that the Buds 2 Pro are that comparable (overall specs), especially since the multi-point has been confirmed to arrive soon (during winter, if Sony keeps its word).
But thanks for the recommendation, it tickled my interest!
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I have the Sony WF-1000XM4, WH-1000XM4, and now the Galaxy Buds 2 Pro and believe me the earphones sound astounding. I have the scalable codec enabled and it really gives LDAC a run for its money. The sound imaging is extremely detailed compared to the XM4s - I listen to Tidal with Master enabled (although Master is meant for wired listening, but at BT levels, it transmits at the highest bitrate). The only issue is the extreme battery drain - I have been listening for 40 mins and the battery has drained 13% already! On that note, the XM4s are champions.
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I have the Sony WF-1000XM4, WH-1000XM4, and now the Galaxy Buds 2 Pro and believe me the earphones sound astounding. I have the scalable codec enabled and it really gives LDAC a run for its money. The sound imaging is extremely detailed compared to the XM4s - I listen to Tidal with Master enabled (although Master is meant for wired listening, but at BT levels, it transmits at the highest bitrate). The only issue is the extreme battery drain - I have been listening for 40 mins and the battery has drained 13% already! On that note, the XM4s are champions.
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If my wife begins to complain that I "borrow" her Buds 2 Pro too often, consider it'll be your fault.
Jokes aside, that's pretty sad that Samsung didn't include LDAC in these, as it would be more versatile and consumer-friendly (although I perfectly understand the "golden cage" move, as Apple does the very same with its own ecosystem of products).
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I have the Sony WF-1000XM4, WH-1000XM4, and now the Galaxy Buds 2 Pro and believe me the earphones sound astounding. I have the scalable codec enabled and it really gives LDAC a run for its money. The sound imaging is extremely detailed compared to the XM4s - I listen to Tidal with Master enabled (although Master is meant for wired listening, but at BT levels, it transmits at the highest bitrate). The only issue is the extreme battery drain - I have been listening for 40 mins and the battery has drained 13% already! On that note, the XM4s are champions.
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Hold on, do you want to tell me that Buds 2 Pro are better than WF-1000XM4?
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If my wife begins to complain that I "borrow" her Buds 2 Pro too often, consider it'll be your fault.
Jokes aside, that's pretty sad that Samsung didn't include LDAC in these, as it would be more versatile and consumer-friendly (although I perfectly understand the "golden cage" move, as Apple does the very same with its own ecosystem of products).
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I really don't think the golden cage principle could apply to any Android device unless it's an iPhone!! Samsung can try as much as they want, but as long as we are in the Android world it would be impossible to put us in a cage. But yes, you may want to exchange the buds with the XM4s!
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Hold on, do you want to tell me that Buds 2 Pro are better than WF-1000XM4?
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If you have the XM4s, I'd suggest doing an A-B testing and listening to the difference yourself. I was sceptical too initially, but after listening to the buds 2 for a while now, my XM4s have become secondary. I use them only when I listen to my portable music player since the buds sound garbage on AAC
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I really don't think the golden cage principle could apply to any Android device unless it's an iPhone!! Samsung can try as much as they want, but as long as we are in the Android world it would be impossible to put us in a cage. But yes, you may want to exchange the buds with the XM4s!
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Well, as this codec is exclusive to Samsung products, if you don't have a Samsung phone recent enough to pair them with, you loose one of its main selling points (the main one?), and you can't compensate with an other Hi-Fi codec.
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If you have the XM4s, I'd suggest doing an A-B testing and listening to the difference yourself. I was sceptical too initially, but after listening to the buds 2 for a while now, my XM4s have become secondary. I use them only when I listen to my portable music player since the buds sound garbage on AAC
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I do not have either, got senheiser momentum 2 and they are slightly annoying me. I was looking to her news pair, was thinking about xm4 and maybe now Galaxy buds
Will do some research
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Does buds use "special" codec?
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Yes, their proprietary codec is called SSC (Samsung Seamless Codec). But they can use AAC too.
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Finally gave up the ol iPhone 3G and "upgraded" to an SGSII. I paid a lot of money and figured it'd work, but there are two extremely niggling problems that I cannot fix.
1. No one calling me can hear me unless I use speakerphone. I did successfully fix that once with some settings accessed by typing in a number and changing a few things, but that reset when I reset my phone...I've yet to be able to fix this.
2. When listening to music on my massive Sennheiser headphones I can't hear much at all. On the iPhone if I'd even approached full volume, I woulda blown my head off, on the SGSII, even on full, Metallica sounds like a soothing lullaby.
Are there any fixes for these issues? Or are these things that perhaps are fixed simply from having a different firmware? An almost 800 dollar phone, it'd be nice if it did two basic functions without flopping.
All help is appreciated.
EDIT: Oh and forgot to mention, I know the mic works thanks to speaker phone making me heard and I know headphones/sound output can be louder because the app Volume+ or whatever boosts it fine. I just don't want to use a seperate app each time, I want a more permanant fix.
EDIT2: Okay, Poweramp works fine, and I also see types of headphones are to blame. Like the earphones that came with the phone are fine. They have 3 notches on the plug as opposed to 2. I'd say that's a fair indication. Anyway, can consider this problem solved.
Also I've been told my warranty was indeed automatic, so if I truly cannot fix the mic problem again, apparently I can send it away to get fixed. Although I guess I'll have to reset and all, hide root and all that. Don't even know how, nor do I want to be phone-less, so help will still be very appreciated.
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1. No one calling me can hear me unless I use speakerphone.
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Sounds like a defect to me ... I would try to get an exchange. Maybe first compre with another SGS2 in a shop.
2. When listening to music on my massive Sennheiser headphones I can't hear much at all.
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That's pretty normal with mobile devices, which usually have an output impedance of 32 Ohm. Large HiFi headphones are optimized for much more powerfull amplifiers and so have an impedance of 250 Ohm or even more. This results in much lower volume, if high impedance headphones are used on mobile devices like phones, notebooks or MP3 players.
A further reason is, that the SGS2 has lower maximum volume, than several competitors ... seems to be limited by software.
Download Poweramp from the market ... it's worth every cent, but there's also a time limited demo. This app has a nice preamp, which allows you to raise the overall volume and it's equalizer is also very good.
I use Ogg Vorbis (224 bitrate) songs with this app combined with an AKG K319, the best mobile headphones I ever tried ... much better than even most big Sennheisers ... that being said from a former Sennheiser fan For home HiFi I recommend Beyerdynamic DT880 or DT990. Try these headphones and you'll sell your Sennheiser
The combination of Ogg Vorbis (MP3 sucks in comparison), AKG and Poweramp give me fantastic sound quality!
And don't use Metallica for testing ... their records are highly compressed ... complete junk from an accustically perspective, because all dynamics are compressed away. Google for "audio compressor" and you'll understand.
i use a combination of poweramp with a 'smiley face' or 'rocl' equalizer setting and volume+ with +3 and good quality equalizer settings.
makes my koss portapros truly shine in terms of volume and clarity.
First off, lemme say thanks for the replies. 'Preciate it.
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Sounds like a defect to me ... I would try to get an exchange. Maybe first compre with another SGS2 in a shop.
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Possibly, it's been awhile since I got it though and I dunno where I put my receipt so I sort of doubt the shop will care. And defect or not, I feel it's more a software/firmware issue as I truly was able to fix it at some point.
That's pretty normal with mobile devices, which usually have an output impedance of 32 Ohm. Large HiFi headphones are optimized for much more powerfull amplifiers and so have an impedance of 250 Ohm or even more. This results in much lower volume, if high impedance headphones are used on mobile devices like phones, notebooks or MP3 players.
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Hmm, didn't know that. Still doesn't explain why my headphones worked amazingly with my old iPhone but terrible with this. :c Not that I bought these headphones for taking out and about, rather bulky. Might hafta buy some others..
A further reason is, that the SGS2 has lower maximum volume, than several competitors ... seems to be limited by software.
Download Poweramp from the market ... it's worth every cent, but there's also a time limited demo. This app has a nice preamp, which allows you to raise the overall volume and it's equalizer is also very good.
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Yeah, I gathered as when I used a similar app called Volume+ I found it quite capable of better sound. That's why I'd like some help with changing the Samsung audio settings. I know my way around them, but there's so many opions and changeable things I'm not sure what to do. I'll give Poweramp a look.
I use Ogg Vorbis (224 bitrate) songs with this app combined with an AKG K319, the best mobile headphones I ever tried ... much better than even most big Sennheisers ... that being said from a former Sennheiser fan For home HiFi I recommend Beyerdynamic DT880 or DT990. Try these headphones and you'll sell your Sennheiser
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So cannot be arsed getting OGG versions ofall my music. xD And having to re-tag it all. If OGGs can even be tagged and have art. But yeah, way too much effort but I don't doubt you.
And don't use Metallica for testing ... their records are highly compressed ... complete junk from an accustically perspective, because all dynamics are compressed away. Google for "audio compressor" and you'll understand.
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Perhaps. But they're loud songs nonetheless, particularly the live ones. I can certainly hear the difference. Way too quiet on the SGS2. :c
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i use a combination of poweramp with a 'smiley face' or 'rocl' equalizer setting and volume+ with +3 and good quality equalizer settings.
makes my koss portapros truly shine in terms of volume and clarity.
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Using more than one app is even more than my not wanting to use one in the first place. Certainly wouldn't help battery life, as this all only matters when I'm travelling long distance and need music.
There are 2 microphones on the sgs2. One is on the bottom edge and one is on the top edge. The bottom one is for regular calls and is broken on your phone. The top one is for speakerphone, which is obviously working.
I suggest returning your phone under warranty as the volume issue is not normal either.
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There are 2 microphones on the sgs2. One is on the bottom edge and one is on the top edge. The bottom one is for regular calls and is broken on your phone. The top one is for speakerphone, which is obviously working.
I suggest returning your phone under warranty as the volume issue is not normal either.
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They're not broken as such because as stated I was able to fiddle with some settings and get normal calls working fine, it just lost those settings after a reset. Some sort of firmware fault, I've heard of cases where people had the same issue back on the original SGS.
I could never get the warranty going. Samsung's website wouldn't recognise it at all. Never got around to trying to start the warranty manually. Probably too late now.
Also, to those who recommended Poweramp; I'm impressed. that's not a bad work around actually. Shame it doesn't have playlist support though.
EDIT: Oh, it does! perfect little app, thanks guys. Now I just need to find settings to fix my in-call volume issue then I'm all set.
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Using more than one app is even more than my not wanting to use one in the first place. Certainly wouldn't help battery life, as this all only matters when I'm travelling long distance and need music.
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volume+ has no perceptible hit on battery life fyi
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why dont you give it a try first. you could always kill it or uninstall it if it doesnt work out for you. it has a v small memory footprint btw.
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volume+ has no perceptible hit on battery life fyi
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why dont you give it a try first. you could always kill it or uninstall it if it doesnt work out for you. it has a v small memory footprint btw.
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Ah alright, I might've imagined it. I'll use it if need-be, at least Poweramp seems to do the job as-is but thanks for the recommendation.
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Hmm, didn't know that. Still doesn't explain why my headphones worked amazingly with my old iPhone but terrible with this. :c Not that I bought these headphones for taking out and about, rather bulky. Might hafta buy some others..
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thats what you call impedance mismatch.
for example, my woodees in-ear sound excellent on an iphone/ipod. in fact, it is a match to a bose QC15 any day. however it sounds muffled on my laptop and sgs2.
its the complete opposite with my koss portapros which sound amazing on my laptops and sgs2 and sound just ok on the ipod.
there is most probably nothing wrong with both your headphones and phone, but just keep this in mind. it is one reason why certain audiophiles have more than one iem.
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forgot about your in-call issues, yes that could be a hardware problem.
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thats what you call impedance mismatch.
for example, my woodees in-ear sound excellent on an iphone/ipod. in fact, it is a match to a bose QC15 any day. however it sounds muffled on my laptop and sgs2.
its the complete opposite with my koss portapros which sound amazing on my laptops and sgs2 and sound just ok on the ipod.
there is most probably nothing wrong with both your headphones and phone, but just keep this in mind. it is one reason why certain audiophiles have more than one iem.
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What a pain in the arse. :c Had no idea audio could be so damn complicated.
At least Poweramp seems to make things loud enough. Might have to invest in some more portable headphones in the future though.
personally, id try to get your in-call volume issues sorted out first.
that just isnt right and could indeed point to a h/w defect.
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personally, id try to get your in-call volume issues sorted out first.
that just isnt right and could indeed point to a h/w defect.
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That basically is all I need sorting now. The underlying problem of the music volume may not be fixed, but the apps suggested here get around it fine.
I still don't think it was a hardware defect as I really did have it fixed at one point. Stupid reset. I think it's some semi-unique firm/software issue I have.
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Had no idea audio could be so damn complicated.
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That's the downside of the MP3 age ... most people don't know nothing about audio quality and what's worse, they don't know what they missed so far.
There are several lessons to learn:
1. MP3 sucks even at highest bitrate, because frequencies above 15 KHz are cut off and basses are always distorted if the music is a bit louder. If you have good audio hardware, MP3 sounds much worse than a good Audio CD.
2. Ogg Vorbis is a good compromise for mobile use compared to Flac with it's extremly large files. If you rip a CD with quality setting Q=7 (224 kbit) you won't hear a difference to the CD except when using a DDD recording on a high end HiFi home sytem and having yourself very trained ears And what's also nice is, the file size is similar to MP3.
And yes, you can use album art with Ogg ... embed it with Media Monkey on PC or if you rip a complete album to a folder, just place a JPG in that folder which has the same file name as the album title. Both Media Monkey and the SGS2 will show it (no matter if stock player or Poweramp). No need to mention, that all MP3 tags also can be embedded in Ogg.
3. Good audio hardware is needed ... and though the stock volume is a bit low on the SGS2, it's Yamaha audio engine is quite good. But the stock audio player is crap. It's impossible to get good equalization without distortion in the bass bands. But Poweramp solves this problem, if you set it up correctly.
So all that is missing now is a good headphone. The best mobile headphone with correct impedance you can get below 100$ nowadays is the AKG K319 ... though it ships with a hardcase and has fantastic sound, it's not very popular or let's say not well known, so you can get it really cheap ... got it for only 25 Euros
But if you are a bass junkie, the Koss Porta Pro might be the better choice. It has a little bit more bass response as the AKG, but is more bulky and can't compete with the AKG's sound "crispness" in middle and high frequency bands.
Conclusion: After already switching to Poweramp, Ogg and a good mobile headphone will give give you a second WOW effect
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Conclusion: After already switching to Poweramp, Ogg and a good mobile headphone will give give you a second WOW effect
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Very interesting. I knew some of that, but not quite to that extent. Regardless though, the sheer time it'd take me to replace my songs..ugh, I shudder at the thought. Also I prefer mp3 and m4a for cross-system compatibility and iTunes use. Still my fave way of organising and listening to music I'm almost ashamed to say.
That being said, I installed Winamp just for transferring my music and playlists onto my SGS2 properly.
I'll keep the headphones in mind, but Poweramp itself solves the bulk of that problem. x3 Now if only I could fix my major problem.
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Also I prefer mp3 and m4a for cross-system compatibility and iTunes use.
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MP3 will die over time, not only because it sounds horrible. The main reason are the licence fees, devs and manufacturers have to pay ... Ogg on the other hand is free ... did you notice, that nearly all newer devices suport Ogg?
It can understand, that switching a large archive to Ogg can be a lot of work, but it's zero hassle to use Ogg for new material.
I highly recommend to compare the sound quality.
Now if only I could fix my major problem.
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You mentioned, that you found a fix, but a reboot resets it. Do you use the latest firmware or a custom ROM?
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MP3 will die over time, not only because it sounds horrible. The main reason are the licence fees, devs and manufacturers have to pay ... Ogg on the other hand is free ... did you notice, that nearly all newer devices suport Ogg?
It can understand, that switching a large archive to Ogg can be a lot of work, but it's zero hassle to use Ogg for new material.
I highly recommend to compare the sound quality.
You mentioned, that you found a fix, but a reboot resets it. Do you use the latest firmware or a custom ROM?
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Yeah, I don't doubt it. Gotta love that open source. I might investigate more into ogg files when I have more spare time.
As for the firmware, I believe I updated to a latest one. At least I don't think it was custom, looked the same as the stock, stupid TouchWiz and all. Only updated to root it basically. 'Cause I think my stock rom was an Optus mutated version basically, so couldn't root it. Something like that.
Lets check the settings..hmm...Android Version: 2.3.3, Baseband Version: I9100XXKDJ, Kernel Version: 2.6.35.7-I9100XWEK2-CL187606 [email protected] #2, Build Number: GINGERBREAD.XWKE2.
That's all I know.
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I might investigate more into ogg files when I have more spare time.
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One last word about Ogg ... it's only superior to MP3 at 224 KBit and above!
At least I don't think it was custom, ...
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You think? Where did you get it from? I only updated by OTA ... staying stock so far.
maybe 2.3.5 will fix that
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One last word about Ogg ... it's only superior to MP3 at 224 KBit and above!
You think? Where did you get it from? I only updated by OTA ... staying stock so far.
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I tend to only have MP3s above 192kbps, mostly higher, so I guess I'll know to keep the trend for oggs.
And yes, I believe so. The OTA updating thing didn't work. Again, I believe, because it was an Optus-edited firmware.
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Perhaps. If I update again does it keep my root or will I have to do that again?
EDIT: Okay, Poweramp works fine, and I also see types of headphones are to blame. Like the earphones that came with the phone are fine. They have 3 notches on the plug as opposed to 2. I'd say that's a fair indication. Anyway, can consider this problem solved.
Also I've been told my warranty was indeed automatic, so if I truly cannot fix the mic problem again, apparently I can send it away to get fixed. Although I guess I'll have to reset and all, hide root and all that. Don't even know how, nor do I want to be phone-less, so help will still be very appreciated.
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But if you are a bass junkie, the Koss Porta Pro might be the better choice. It has a little bit more bass response as the AKG, but is more bulky and can't compete with the AKG's sound "crispness" in middle and high frequency bands.
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I agree with most everything you said except your comments on the koss portapros.
Unlike most iem's, the koss us not bass heavy and in fact shines in separation, natural sound reproduction and over all warness and crispness. It is definitely not a headphone for bass heads.
I like listening to modern music with a lot of strings and I get a lot of separation in the high frequencies.
Like i said I've compared it to a Boss quiet comfort 15 and senn 555's.
Your akg is very good too, but at a third of the price less, i personally feel the koss is a better buy.
And that's why it's design has been the same for the past 25 years
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I'm using the tmobile v20 and noticed this morning that my DAC wasn't impacting the sound quality of Google Play Music at ALL. I have been using a v10 for the past year and I could tell that the DAC wasn't working, or it was broken, because my non-DAC listening on the v20 paled in comparison to the v10 with DAC on.
I went ahead and installed the DAC Fix for V10 and it seems to have fixed my issue. In case any of you aren't noticing the DAC working on streaming apps, try this. So far I've had no issues.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...lgv10.dacfix&rdid=com.phascinate.lgv10.dacfix
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v10/themes-apps/dac-fix-hi-fi-dac-everywhere-t3274457
Thanks to: http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=4723056
Funny, listening to Google Play Music with my leftover Note 7 earbuds I hear a distinct difference when I toggle the HI-FI on and off. I tried installing the V10 fix app and can hear no difference enabling or disabling it. I did see that the settings for Hi-Fi say "The sound has been automatically adjusted to the connected audio device". Could the type of headphones/earbuds determine if it engages?
T-Mobile edition of the V20.
I also hear a big difference on my T-Mobile unit. I'm using a set of Skullcandy earphones, and toggling off/on is immediately noticeable.
I ended up testing some more...I turned off the DAC fix, yet the toggle still worked. So I uninstalled the DAC fix completely and the toggle STILL works. I guess my unit was stuck in the "off" position for some reason, but it's working fine now. Weird. Sounds so much better with the DAC on.
The DAC fix makes no difference on my V10. Once the dolby atmos is turned on and Viper, the sound quality is superior. My V20 is arriving today and I'm sure with my 1More earphones and that 32bit DAC my ears will cry for mercy.
I wasn't able to replicate your problem, but I must say... This audio quality is far superior than any other phone I've ever used, finally something deserving to be used with Denon Urban Raver's.
Soooo is the DAC fix only for streaming apps such as Google play?
This is my main source of music...
Im comparing the headphone DAC on the s7 and the v20 and they almost sound the same, Im activating and turning off the Hi FI on the v20. Im using an audio technika m50x. Should i donwload the app to fix the dac? im using a video from youtube to do the testing. going to use google music songs that i have download to see if there is a difference.
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Soooo is the DAC fix only for streaming apps such as Google play?
This is my main source of music...
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Other people's DAC worked fine for streaming apps without the fix. Mine WASN'T working, but now it is. I can't say why. But I'm like you. I use GPM for my daily music.
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Other people's DAC worked fine for streaming apps without the fix. Mine WASN'T working, but now it is. I can't say why. But I'm like you. I use GPM for my daily music.
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there is someway of knowing if is working correctly?
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there is someway of knowing if is working correctly?
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I'll tell you right now, if you can't notice it, it isn't working. You don't even have to be close to an audiophile to notice, it's just simply 3x better.
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I'll tell you right now, if you can't notice it, it isn't working. You don't even have to be close to an audiophile to notice, it's just simply 3x better.
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so mine is not working. is very close to the one on the s7 edge. Should i restore it? I also download the v10 dacfix but still the same. where is the better place to test it out. App wise?
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so mine is not working. is very close to the one on the s7 edge. Should i restore it? I also download the v10 dacfix but still the same. where is the better place to test it out. App wise?
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It is quite noticeable on every music app I've used. The best way I would say is just listen to some music you like. I wouldn't know how to fix it, mine works perfectly. Try a factory reset?
Edit: I just moved from the S7 edge, and the difference is quite clear. I even think it's much better without the hi-fi turned on, but with it on it's significantly better too.
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It is quite noticeable on every music app I've used. The best way I would say is just listen to some music you like. I wouldn't know how to fix it, mine works perfectly. Try a factory reset?
Edit: I just moved from the S7 edge, and the difference is quite clear. I even think it's much better without the hi-fi turned on, but with it on it's significantly better too.
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damn and what headphones you are using?
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damn and what headphones you are using?
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Sennheiser Momentum In-ear, SteelSeries Siberia Elite Prism headset, and both Samsung and apple ear buds that come with phones. There isn't a pair I can't tell the difference on. I even did a blind listen test with my wife, and she confirmed that it sounds better on the samsung ear buds she uses (included with S7 edge).
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there is someway of knowing if is working correctly?
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I figured out a very easy way to tell. If your phone doesn't mute music for 1/2 a second when you turn it on, it isn't turning on. It should have a 1/2 second mute when enabling or disabling.
It does. So i imagine is better in the clarity or something. Because it doesnt sound louder than the s7.
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Sennheiser Momentum In-ear, SteelSeries Siberia Elite Prism headset, and both Samsung and apple ear buds that come with phones. There isn't a pair I can't tell the difference on. I even did a blind listen test with my wife, and she confirmed that it sounds better on the samsung ear buds she uses (included with S7 edge).
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how you are connecting them? first the cable to the phone and then to the headphones? or just plugging them
This dac fix did nothing for quality for me listening through my Bose QC15's couldn't tell a difference
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So mine is confirmed working with google play.
plugged my vmoda crossfade LP2 wire into th3 phone , then into to headphones.
Press the DAC button and it is a slight bump in bass and volume. too bassy imo
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Hi, I bought the nord 2 a few days ago, it's a wonderful phone but I have a problem.
The bluetooth audio quality is horrible. I don't know if it's only on my device , i have tried everything, the stock Dirac hd sound does not support bluetooth devices so the sound is flat. Also it seems like it's playing music on low bit rate. I have switched from aac to sbc there's a slight difference but still it sucks. Also changing some settings in developer settings did nothing.
I have Huawei Freebuds 4I and on every other device the sound is amazing but on the nord it's awful.
Currently I'm using wavelet eq but still the music is playing at a low bit rate. I don't wanna root my phone for viper4android so is there any other solution to this?
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Hi, I bought the nord 2 a few days ago, it's a wonderful phone but I have a problem.
The bluetooth audio quality is horrible. I don't know if it's only on my device , i have tried everything, the stock Dirac hd sound does not support bluetooth devices so the sound is flat. Also it seems like it's playing music on low bit rate. I have switched from aac to sbc there's a slight difference but still it sucks. Also changing some settings in developer settings did nothing.
I have Huawei Freebuds 4I and on every other device the sound is amazing but on the nord it's awful.
Currently I'm using wavelet eq but still the music is playing at a low bit rate. I don't wanna root my phone for viper4android so is there any other solution to this?
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One plus Nord 2 is a budget phone yet not cheaper than other budget phones, yet they give a low-quality device like this. Try listening in a different Bluetooth headset.
No issue here, I have samsung galaxy buds+ TWS (aac mode) and a Marshall Mid (aptx mode) and bluetooth quality is perfect in both cases.
And for the lack of Dirac support in bluetooth mode I use the app "Poweramp Equalizer" to get some more bass in my headset
For music you can try jethdaudio player. It is extremely good.
I don't know what you are talking about I am using Realme Buds Wireless 2 on my Nord 2 and it sounds amazing and I mean it since I am picky about the audio quality with negligible delay like mine cost about 1/3rd of yours so it's probably a compability issue LDAC and AAC both work great on nord 2 ofc LDAC sounds better at the cost of more battery usage....
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I don't know what you are talking about I am using Realme Buds Wireless 2 on my Nord 2 and it sounds amazing and I mean it since I am picky about the audio quality with negligible delay like mine cost about 1/3rd of yours so it's probably a compability issue LDAC and AAC both work great on nord 2 ofc LDAC sounds better at the cost of more battery usage....
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So far i still haven't found a solution, tried a different pair of earbuds (qcy) and the problem still remains.
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So far i still haven't found a solution, tried a different pair of earbuds (qcy) and the problem still remains.
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Maybe a faulty piece really should just visit a service centre with all those headsets and see if it can be fixed if possible test out some more headsets by asking from your friends. Also check the settings of the music app you are using it's unlikely but still possible that it's set on low
Can't get it replaced.. Cracked the screen 5 minutes after I took the phone out of the box
Most folks dont know this, but bluetooth is a modern NAME for 'A' software version of hardware based tech capable of transmitting 240v AC through the air.
Tunguska anyone? That was the test, and the origional copywright is owned by TESLA.
Bluetooth, was designed to do the same, it's designed for AC current, explaining why bluetooth digital audio is the WORST sound ever invented.
Blutooth sounds so crap due to the following:
1: The inventors of digital audio decided to remove EVERY frequency the human ear cant hear. (according to who?)
2: They are now removing the lower base frequencies that we COULD hear, if we had say speaker's like my set of BW speaker's used by the BBC in the 60's and 70's, which can produce EVERY frequency. To make these speakers today is £14.000 PER speaker.
3: By removing all lower frequencies, they removed what is known in music, as the BODY of sound. They started this with digital techno, aka goa trance. I stopped buying musical digital instruments just because of this. If you take a 90's version of say 'Rising High's Church of Extacy' ( The tune that officially killed rock and roll due to it's pure analogue sound quality, hardness, and the deepest bass ) then play it through bluetooth, all you hear is tsstsstsstss, because the tweaters you think are great sounding speakers literally cant play anything under the highhat, without ECHO to fake the BASS.
If it's audio QUALITY you want, DROP bluetooth. Simple.
Another note:
As a dj of over 40 years in the undergound dance music scene, the one thing I cant understand is why I now have no CHOICE but to buy headphones for djing with a bluetooth mic built in! This allows whoever is spying on what we SAY to record my tune or live mix before I leave the gig, and claim it as their own. Try buying decent ANALOGUE headfones for djing.
Final note.
Nfc: the modern day verion of blutooth. Interfere's with bluetooth audio in that the AC current also has it's own magnetic field, which can, like binaural beats, interfere with bluetooth. Most fones use bluetooth AND Nfc. nae luck.
I personnaly know the best hacker in Scotland. 12 letters after his name in computer sciences...! He wrote the bluetooth app the gov called tap n trace, and he sold it to them for £30.000, they added Nfc (Near field Communication) and got most people in the world to install it in their fone. NIce one Gi88's!
Bluetooth... did you bite?
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So far i still haven't found a solution, tried a different pair of earbuds (qcy) and the problem still remains.
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I am using my Sony WH-1000XM3 and it supports LDAC. The audio quality is great with support for equaliser. The only way to get LDAC was change the mode from connection stability to sound quality mode in sony headphone app. By default, it supports SBC. Pls check your headphone's app and also check if your headphone supports relevant codec.hope this helps.
I had a similar issue with my Nord 2 and my Libratone Too BT speaker, sound was horrible, like an old cassette player. The speaker only supports the SBC codec, I think.
I was able to fix the sound quality by enabling developer options and switching to AVRCP 1.6 and MAP 1.4 there.
Update A.16 fixes Bluetooth audio.
the problem is just with the freebuds 4i, but I don't understand why..
LeClair said:
Update A.16 fixes Bluetooth audio.
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I have this problem, I'm using soundpeats bt buds, also in my car Bluetooth, others are sometimes having hard time to hear me. Not sure if it is. The Bluetooth devices I'm using has a problem but it doesn't happens regularly. Just want you to check if anyone is using good Bluetooth buds for work whole day and it never gives any kind of issues on calls.
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I have this problem, I'm using soundpeats bt buds, also in my car Bluetooth, others are sometimes having hard time to hear me. Not sure if it is. The Bluetooth devices I'm using has a problem but it doesn't happens regularly. Just want you to check if anyone is using good Bluetooth buds for work whole day and it never gives any kind of issues on calls.
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I can't take calls with my now 2nd set of pixel buds. Terrible call quality. No issues with any other audio, and no issues with Bluetooth audio in car. Really weird.
My problem is, sometimes the caller would not hear me clearly and then I have to switch to phone mic, it's really not quite stable with soundpeats sometimes with important calls.
Looking for something as stable as and as good as apple airpods ofcourse not breaking bank same as apple.
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My problem is, sometimes the caller would not hear me clearly and then I have to switch to phone mic, it's really not quite stable with soundpeats sometimes with important calls.
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All my calls are garbled, they can hear me but I can't hear them. Always have to switch to phone speaker. Really frustrating when these buds were made for this phone. I'll have to try another set to confirm it's a phone problem.
I have a 1st gen set of OnePlus Buds Z that works amazingly. They support the instant connect and the phone can see the battery of both buds and the case.
You want ones that support the APTX HD codec... the highest resolution codec available for this phone.
I have aptx hd on ugreen car Bluetooth but for buds problem is mic gets unstable sometimes then I have to switch to car bt or phones mic , this happens a few times in a day. Looking for buds which is ready and stable for calls and mic to be clear all the time.
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You want ones that support the APTX HD codec... the highest resolution codec available for this phone.
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I thought LDAC was a higher resolution, am I wrong?
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I have aptx hd on ugreen car Bluetooth but for buds problem is mic gets unstable sometimes then I have to switch to car bt or phones mic , this happens a few times in a day. Looking for buds which is ready and stable for calls and mic to be clear all the time.
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For me Ugreen Hitune x5 are perfect, also with other i have no problem too, for example i have one airbuds pro clone only for job and no problem
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I thought LDAC was a higher resolution, am I wrong?
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Does it support LDAC?
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Does it support LDAC?
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My Pixel 6 has it listed in Developer options and I've found post elsewhere where posters claimed they were using it.
On Google support forum
"I have 990kbs LDAC on 6 Pro with my Shure Aonic 50s, options are greyed out until headphones are connected".
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My Pixel 6 has it listed in Developer options and I've found post elsewhere where posters claimed they were using it.
On Google support forum
"I have 990kbs LDAC on 6 Pro with my Shure Aonic 50s, options are greyed out until headphones are connected".
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It's got it then, cool.
End up with Anker Life A2 NC gifted by GF on Birthday. Just too good and very very stable with 0 hiccups.
Oh and the best part is crystal clear Microphone.
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End up with Anker Life A2 NC gifted by GF on Birthday. Just too good and very very stable with 0 hiccups.
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Anker puts out good product. My Liberty Air 2s have been flawless on both the P3 and P6.
If you want a 'disposable' pair, I'd recommend the PowerAdd S12. For only $10 shipped, they definitely score well in the value department. They work fine with my Pixel 6 - even when I walk into the next room, and I have no complaints from anyone about call quality. They are kinda bulky, but stay in my ears just fine. Even though the company seemed kinda sketchy, they take PayPal so I gave them a shot. Both sets I ordered from them were delivered.
https://www.ipoweradd.com/collections/super-deal/products/wireless-headphones
P.S. even though the link says "48H Deal", the page has been active for several months at least.
Amazon link https://www.amazon.com/S12-Bluetooth-Headphones-Microphone-Waterproof/dp/B09K7FLRY5/
no issues for me
I know this isn't likely but is there any chance features of AKG wireless headphones that are locked to Samsung devices will be ported to other devices? I have a Google Pixel 6 and just got a pair of AKG Y600 full size BT headphones. These support Bixby (Anyone really use Bixby?) and Siri but not Google Assistant. I'm not aheavy GA user but it's handy sometimes. My biggest issue is the UHQ BT codec is locked to Samsung devices.
Overall, I'm happy with these headphones at the current $60 closeout price but I'm pissed at Samsung for these deliberate "lock in" tactics.
You talking about the proprietary Samsung SSC bluetooth codec? It's proprietary to Samsung.
LDAC is the equivalent or better more than likely.
Both are not close to wired headphone audio quality. SSC and LDAC sound pretty good on buds and headphones but they would fall apart in open air listening through stereo drivers. Not enough sound stage.
Yes, it must be SSC. I guess I'm SOL. Sony shares their LDAC codec, why can't Samsung share SSC?
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Yes, it must be SSC. I guess I'm SOL. Sony shares their LDAC codec, why can't Samsung share SSC?
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If you're going to use bluetooth get something that supports LDAC. SBC can sound pretty good if you can use its maximum bandwidth.
If you want SCC get a used N10+ for a good price. You get up to 1tb expandable storage with that. Something both the new Samsung's and Pixel's flagships lack.
The N10+ excels as a portable media server. It's display is still one of the best ever produced. Gets better SOT too. SSC has it's downside too as only Samsung audio devices support it
It's a mess.
My ears aren't really good. I'll probably check these headphones to see how good they can sound by plugging them into the headphone port of my laptop. Of course, if I want to plug them into my Pixel, I will need a USB C to headphone adapter. Thanks for the suggestion of the N10.
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My ears aren't really good. I'll probably check these headphones to see how good they can sound by plugging them into the headphone port of my laptop. Of course, if I want to plug them into my Pixel, I will need a USB C to headphone adapter. Thanks for the suggestion of the N10.
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You're welcome. If you have a direct wire connection option use it when convenient. Make sure the source material is .wav or higher resolution and that highest resolution output from the device is enabled. You will hear the difference. Use some harpsichord music if you really want to test it. Mp3's can't reproduce it well at all
For onboard music libraries Poweramp paid version is still the best player. It has an excellent graphic equalizer to dial the sound in.