I am curious about the storage arrangement in the 1 TB version. Can anyone send me a screenshot of it? I already have 512 Gb version, thinking of ordering 1TB for myself.
I would assume the same amount of bloat but just larger total size
spart0n said:
I would assume the same amount of bloat but just larger total size
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That's why asking for a screenshot if anyone has one. Well thanks for replying.
I've seen some posted in r/samsung or r/s23 can't remember which
I have the 1TB version. Is this what you're looking for?
Ankitaadi said:
I am curious about the storage arrangement in the 1 TB version. Can anyone send me a screenshot of it? I already have 512 Gb version, thinking of ordering 1TB for myself.
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Justas A. said:
I have the 1TB version. Is this what you're looking for?
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Thank you so much. Gonna gift 512 to dad.. ordered 1 TB just now.
Out of the box, no apps installed
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Ankitaadi said:
I am curious about the storage arrangement in the 1 TB version. Can anyone send me a screenshot of it? I already have 512 Gb version, thinking of ordering 1TB for myself.
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also note that 512gb is actually around 475gb so 1tb will actually be around 930gb. Samsung includes the lost storage space as part of the system so it may appear like the bloatware is taking up more space than it actually is.
cledee said:
also note that 512gb is actually around 475gb so 1tb will actually be around 930gb. Samsung includes the lost storage space as part of the system so it may appear like the bloatware is taking up more space than it actually is.
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This explanation makes no sense. Google Files does not report the same large system storage and it also rounds to 512GB. Then when you look at the Play Store, which doesn't do the rounding, and then compute the math, it still doesn't make sense.
Samsung report:
Google Files:
Play Store:
The math doesn't add up between the three sources.
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This explanation makes no sense. Google Files does not report the same large system storage and it also rounds to 512GB. Then when you look at the Play Store, which doesn't do the rounding, and then compute the math, it still doesn't make sense.
Samsung report:
View attachment 5857111
Google Files:
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Play Store:
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The math doesn't add up between the three sources.
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That is because every GB of storage will have 1000MB instead of 1024MB. Every MB here will too have 1000 KB instead of 1024KB. The same is true for each KB. Hence, a storage drive advertised as 1TB will have 1000,000,000,000 bytes which is ~931GB in terms of base 2 system.
1gb is supposed to be 1,024 mb but you are getting around 1,000 mb instead for each gb.
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That is because every GB of storage will have 1000MB instead of 1024MB. Every MB here will too have 1000 KB instead of 1024KB. The same is true for each KB. Hence, a storage drive advertised as 1TB will have 1000,000,000,000 bytes which is ~931GB in terms of base 2 system.
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Do the math of the storage discrepancy and it still doesn't add up between the three sources. The interesting thing is that Windows reports 357GB/461GB is available. 512GB would normally be 476GiB so there is another 16GB being taken up, probably for overprovisioning, but the 357GB matches what Samsung's storage app reports as being available at least so even if the individual numbers are wrong (which they absolutely are and it makes no sense the way they've done this), at least you can take the amount available as being correct.
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I was poking around the app SystemPanel (available on the market) and I noticed that the internal storage only adds up to 4gb. This is including the System Storage(849.5MB), Application Storage(2670.8MB), and The cache(424.7MB). Now I don't know much about the file structure, and I am probably missing something, but I thought that the internal storage was 8GB?
Anybody else run into this discovery?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1003232
I'm guessing what Brad is trying to point out without actually putting any effort into answering your question, is according to the linked thread, eMMC is only 4GB
Some unsourced claim said:
Memory (emmc/RAM): 4GB / 768 MB ]
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However the Thunderbolt page on Verizon's own website still claims 8GB
Verizon said:
Memory / Processor
8GB eMMC
768 MB RAM
Actual formatted capacity will be less
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As does Amazon.com here
Amazon said:
Memory
32 GB pre-loaded microSD memory card with support for other optional cards up to 32 GB.
8 GB internal memory
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Oh yeah, even HTChttp://www.htc.com/us/products/thunderbolt-verizon#tech-specs says 8:
HTC said:
8GB emmc + 768 RAM Memory card, preinstalled 32 GB microSD™
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I'm going to venture to guess one of two things is going on:
HTC fat fingered the spec-sheet and everybody else copied it without doing any research (Alternate: Last minute change and their tech sheet was never updated)
There really is 8GB of eMMC, but the "missing" 4GB is hidden, disabled, or otherwise unaccounted for at the moment.
In any event, until someone does a tear down we probably wont know for absolute certainty.
It's not "missing." Pulled from the other thread.
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There is 5.00168gbs(or 5121.72mb) on the system partition according to Root Explorer and a calculator. Most of it is free (empty) space, though.
5.00168 + the ~2.5gb user storage partition = ~7.5gb.
This is the same as the MT4G and G2, both of which had the same advertised 8gb internal storage I believe.
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madfatter said:
how do we get at this space? it seems strange to have it just sitting around there, not being able to be used. perhaps it is possible to rewrite emmc partions to give this an "internal" storage, much like the Dinc had?
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Most likely this will be impossible.
The eMMC's generally used by HTC can only be partitioned once, period. At least, this was the case with the G2 and the MT4G which had the same "missing" storage space.
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EDIT: Pulled the more technical explanation from the G2's Wiki: http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#The_Missing_2GB
Yes, I realize that G2 =/= Thunderbolt. However, it's very likely that HTC uses similiar processes for all of it's phones.
O, ok. I searched xda and it didn't turn up any discussions like this.
O and yippee for companies essentially screwing us out of half of the internal memory we paid for...
Thanks for all of the information guys...
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It's not "missing." Pulled from the other thread.
And since I know this question will be next...
EDIT: Pulled the more technical explanation from the G2's Wiki: http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#The_Missing_2GB
Yes, I realize that G2 =/= Thunderbolt. However, it's very likely that HTC uses similiar processes for all of it's phones.
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Yeah I hasn't finished reading that thread when I replied in here, so I didn't realize the space had been located.
I know the way HTC does eMMC makes it a one time partition, but since its there as "system" according to that post, shouldn't that mean it could be utilized by us somehow? I don't entirely understand all of the nuance to androids partition madness, but I'm an old hand with linux. My first thought runs to making a loopback in some of the free space and mounting it in a user assessable area a la how you can mount iso's and swap files. Might not be the fastest but for data that doesn't change often it could work. Hell I'm pretty sure thats all the ext2/4 hacks on the sgs phones are doing to avoid rfs.
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I wish I knew linux well enough to understand that...
Okay, let me know if i'm way off base here, or just not taking formats into account, but when i received my photon (yay sprint premier) a few days ago, i noticed that it only said i had 8.47gb free of space, now i already know 3gb is dedicated for something in the phone, really don't remember, and i tossed my old evo 8gb sd in for more space, but why the misleading ad of 16gb internal storage!?!
there is 16gigs of internal storage, but the amount available is not given on the box. Yes this is misleading, but they did not lie.
2.8gig's for installing apps makes me not care that another 5gigs is being used for Webtop. So all in all 8+gigs for video/pics/extra app content is more then enough. And like you I threw in my old 8gig SD and have the same amount of storage as my old Vibrant now, but I have more space for apps. So I'm a happy camper with that and the rest of the phone
Yep, it's 16GB of total internal storage, partitioned among the system, Webtop, etc.
Disk /dev/block/mmcblk0: 15.9 GB, 15914762240 bytes
~500MB for /system
~3GB for /data
~650MB for /cache
~1.3GB for /osh (webtop)
~350MB for /preinstall
~9GB for /sdcard (internal storage)
And a lot of little partitions dividing up the space even further.
bane449 said:
Yep, it's 16GB of total internal storage, partitioned among the system, Webtop, etc.
Disk /dev/block/mmcblk0: 15.9 GB, 15914762240 bytes
~500MB for /system
~3GB for /data
~650MB for /cache
~1.3GB for /osh (webtop)
~350MB for /preinstall
~9GB for /sdcard (internal storage)
And a lot of little partitions dividing up the space even further.
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there is 16gigs of internal storage, but the amount available is not given on the box. Yes this is misleading, but they did not lie.
2.8gig's for installing apps makes me not care that another 5gigs is being used for Webtop. So all in all 8+gigs for video/pics/extra app content is more then enough. And like you I threw in my old 8gig SD and have the same amount of storage as my old Vibrant now, but I have more space for apps. So I'm a happy camper with that and the rest of the phone
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hmmm, well since i don't have it the dock or the need for webtop (moto phone portal is good enough) is there anyway to get that bit of space back??
A2CKilla said:
hmmm, well since i don't have it the dock or the need for webtop (moto phone portal is good enough) is there anyway to get that bit of space back??
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Not without repartitioning the internal structure of the phone, which is not possible at this time.
Beknatok said:
Not without repartitioning the internal structure of the phone, which is not possible at this time.
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I presume once we get an unlocked bootloader/root, that will become possible?
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I presume once we get an unlocked bootloader/root, that will become possible?
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Yes. Mind you, repartitioning the internals of your phone is NOT for the faint of heart.
Yeah not sure why you would want to gain that space back anyways. 16gb sd are pretty cheap.
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Yeah not sure why you would want to gain that space back anyways. 16gb sd are pretty cheap.
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Shoot 8gigs is even cheaper, not by much, and 16 gig's in a phone is really good, especially with unlimited data to stream music from the internet via your provider of choice.
I'm still unclear on the amount of space there is for apps without using an SD card. If someone could clear this up further please.
My phone reads as follows:
Application storage - 2.65gb available space (out of how much?)
Internal storage - 8.92gb total 8.61gb available (what is this space used for?)
Where is the remaining to get 16?
Exactly how much total space does this phone have, without an sd card, for installed apps?
CCallahan said:
Where is the remaining to get 16?
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Post #3 gives the exact partition breakdown.
Beknatok said:
Post #3 gives the exact partition breakdown.
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How was that info found? Spare Parts?
That breakdown doesn't equal 16gb unless I'm missing something. Also, that breakdown says there is 9gb for internal storage but what about apps? Phone says there is only 2.65gb available. Need some clarification please.
CCallahan said:
How was that info found? Spare Parts?
That breakdown doesn't equal 16gb unless I'm missing something. Also, that breakdown says there is 9gb for internal storage but what about apps? Phone says there is only 2.65gb available. Need some clarification please.
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Via ABD shell & a linux disk usage command (forgot the exact syntax).
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Yeah not sure why you would want to gain that space back anyways. 16gb sd are pretty cheap.
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Guess i made a good question and where sir??? most 16gb cards cost $30+
I think its an 9 a least. Mine. You can get there by pressing menu, settings, storage about
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I got a 32gb on ebay for around that price. You can find the 16gb even cheaper.
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Guess i made a good question and where sir??? most 16gb cards cost $30+
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820178381
Cheap is never good unless it is a good 'deal'. This is a great deal for a 32gb micro, class 10 which for me is very important. I think anything lower than a class 6 is a waste. You get more errors, file corruption and just failure when you get the cheap ones. Thats why now when you buy an evo/evo3d they are at least class 4's which when I bought mine they were class 2's. Guess they got enough complaints.
For me, Ebay is never a good choice unless you know it is what it says it is, and with electronics you never know until you actually get it.
-DJ
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820178381
Cheap is never good unless it is a good 'deal'. This is a great deal for a 32gb micro, class 10 which for me is very important. I think anything lower than a class 6 is a waste. You get more errors, file corruption and just failure when you get the cheap ones. Thats why now when you buy an evo/evo3d they are at least class 4's which when I bought mine they were class 2's. Guess they got enough complaints.
For me, Ebay is never a good choice unless you know it is what it says it is, and with electronics you never know until you actually get it.
-DJ
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I have been in IT for almost 30 years, Unless I missed something, no such thing as a class 10 MicroSDHC. 2, 4, and 6. I have class 2 SanDisk MicroSDHC and Im happy. Think it was $110.00USD?
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I have been in IT for almost 30 years, Unless I missed something, no such thing as a class 10 MicroSDHC. 2, 4, and 6. I have class 2 SanDisk MicroSDHC and Im happy. Think it was $110.00USD?
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Just had to google it and popped right up.
http://www.google.com/m?hl=en&gl=us...auncher&action=devloc&q=class+10+microsd+card
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dsims7_2000 said:
I have been in IT for almost 30 years, Unless I missed something, no such thing as a class 10 MicroSDHC. 2, 4, and 6. I have class 2 SanDisk MicroSDHC and Im happy. Think it was $110.00USD?
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Did you even click the link dude? Class 10's are all over the place. Being in IT for years means nothing. I have been in IT for years and that pertains to absolutely nothing about a micro sd card being available in class 10....lol
And go ahead and slap yourself in the face for paying that much for a class 2. I got some property I will sell you. Honestly it is cheap...
People are funny
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Well I have calcualted that I have 32 GB of my 64GB used personally with music/pictures/videos. But i seem to have around 10GB of data unaccounted for, any ideas?
From root ( using folder size chart to get folder size's)
Folders by size ( not sure but 3 seem to be duplicates )
MNT: 31,905.4 MB
SDcard: 31,905.4 MB
Storage: 31,905.4 MB
System: 842.32 MB
ECT: 28.6MB
Vendor: 18.4MB
everything else blow that isnt worth listing ( in the low KB-MB range )
Total: ~ 32.02 GB ( assuming MNT/SDcard/Storage, are all pointing to the same data)
Phone default storage:
39.96GB of 64GB and its break down is:
apps 388MB
Music: 26.93GB
Pics/Videos: 1.15GB
Downloads: 1GB
Other: 10.52GB
Available: 24.04GB
Any ideas on what the mysterious 10GB of "BS" is? Considering I just rooted/formated/rom-ed my phone it should be at closer to 32GB not 39.96GB.
Other notes:
Running_ Elegancia_ATT_4.1.0
nattan920 said:
Well I have calcualted that I have 32 GB of my 64GB used personally with music/pictures/videos. But i seem to have around 10GB of data unaccounted for, any ideas?
From root ( using folder size chart to get folder size's)
Folders by size ( not sure but 3 seem to be duplicates )
MNT: 31,905.4 MB
SDcard: 31,905.4 MB
Storage: 31,905.4 MB
System: 842.32 MB
ECT: 28.6MB
Vendor: 18.4MB
everything else blow that isnt worth listing ( in the low KB-MB range )
Total: ~ 32.02 GB ( assuming MNT/SDcard/Storage, are all pointing to the same data)
Phone default storage:
39.96GB of 64GB and its break down is:
apps 388MB
Music: 26.93GB
Pics/Videos: 1.15GB
Downloads: 1GB
Other: 10.52GB
Available: 24.04GB
Any ideas on what the mysterious 10GB of "BS" is? Considering I just rooted/formated/rom-ed my phone it should be at closer to 32GB not 39.96GB.
Other notes:
Running_ Elegancia_ATT_4.1.0
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The other might be sd data for apps/games. That's all I can think of.
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It has to be something to do with the phone software because I started with 55gb of storage after unlocking bootloader so I don't know what's taking up all that room bit I had the same thing. I'm not worried about it yet as I still have 30 gb left but when that runs out that extra 10 gb could cone in handy of I ever need it
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It could be music if you save your music to your phone using google play music. Sense doesn't see those songs as songs because they're encrypted and not a .mp3, so it counts it as other. I'm pretty sure aosp handles this correctly though.
If it's not music, I suggest using SD Maid to find out what it is.
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It could be music if you save your music to your phone using google play music. Sense doesn't see those songs as songs because they're encrypted and not a .mp3, so it counts it as other. I'm pretty sure aosp handles this correctly though.
If it's not music, I suggest using SD Maid to find out what it is.
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They aren't encrypted, although they are hidden but fairly easy to get to.
In a directory on your sdcard where its located there's a file called .nomedia that tells apps not to look there for media files.
You can still use a file explorer to pull the files out or delete the file
The songs aren't named but just download an app to auto name them and your golden
Sorry foe going off topic
Slithered from my HTC One X+
Maybe Nandroid backups? I have 5 of them and it takes up 9.27gb. Check your TWRP folder properties.
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Maybe Nandroid backups? I have 5 of them and it takes up 9.27gb. Check your TWRP folder properties.
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well i have my android back ups calculated in the "personal" data section since they were in my clocworkmod>backup folder. which were 2Gb
I am starting to think that the issue lies with the phone showing up as 55GB when connected to pc and 64 GB when looking at the phones internal settings
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Did you check Android/ data it can get pretty large, and although it will slightly slow down things such as the amount of time it takes to load album art and map caches, you can safely delete it on occasion to see of that helps.
When I first got my HTC One X+, I immediately checked the storage and found that 9.xx GB was taken up completely. This is pretty fair to me because, other 64GB devices I have owned in the past have said that I've only had, say, 52GB available, so at least the phone takes into account actual capacity. But yeah, 10GB wasted. I mean, I can't really argue, 64GB is a LOT of space, but I really doubt Android and HTC Sense take up more than 3 gigs.
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When I first got my HTC One X+, I immediately checked the storage and found that 9.xx GB was taken up completely. This is pretty fair to me because, other 64GB devices I have owned in the past have said that I've only had, say, 52GB available, so at least the phone takes into account actual capacity. But yeah, 10GB wasted. I mean, I can't really argue, 64GB is a LOT of space, but I really doubt Android and HTC Sense take up more than 3 gigs.
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new HOX+ today, same thing. i cant complain, since i came from the 16gb One X xD
The 9/10GB in question, are the other partitions on the nand. It does not matter how much space Android & Sense take up, as the partitions are set sizes.
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Keep on seeing youtube different hands on reports. Some say its 16gb internal storage, others claim 32gb. Its advertised as 32 in clove.
White paper says 32GB I believe.
Correct 32GB it is, at least on mine
The white paper also states only 21gb is available to the user while over 10gb is reserved for firmware and system data, contrary to other information on sony's own website claiming 27gb is available. So what do we believe until it is in our hands?
Yeah, does any1 know way sistem is so big on z5c...9,45gb?! I had z3c and system was half of that.
Proday said:
Yeah, does any1 know way sistem is so big on z5c...9,45gb?! I had z3c and system was half of that.
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Oh my that's a lotta storage taken by the OS
As you can see on picture, total space 32.00gb
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OK...you offered...I am thinking about purchasing the Huawei Ascend XT. In the specs (phonescoop) I noticed 16Gb internal storage with 8.4 "open" usage. That's 7Gb of factory installed bloatware? #1. Other than the Nougat O.S. could most of the bloatware be SAFELY removed #2. In asking that...is most of the bloatware Google and google support services?
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let me know what u want removed on it and i can see if its safe to remove did u buy the phone or gonna buy it my swift n fast rom b170 runs the best something on b180 has bad battery drain so if u get it u can use my rom and if u want it customized or me to make u one customized let me know
also its att bloat some huawei bloat i been working on a new one to try replace huawei apps like clock etc with different ones its still in the works but for now b170 swift n fast is best rom
Huawei Bloatware
madvane20 said:
also its att bloat some huawei bloat i been working on a new one to try replace huawei apps like clock etc with different ones its still in the works but for now b170 swift n fast is best rom
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I haven't bought the phone...yet. I'm in need of a new phone and it's just one of 3 o r 4 I'm considering. Doesn't almost 3 Gb's of bloatware seem like and awful lot? It does to me. One other item of question: I noticed and it very much caught my attention, in the specs it states: FM Radio-YES. Is this an FM receiver (local FM radio) or just Internet Stream FM?
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i dont use the fm turner app i remove it from my roms or least my phone my roms have pretty much all the bloat removed that i could find im still working on new one will be a bit the phone is nice just when we finally get a working dev tree etc we will have custom roms the phone has same hardware as honor 5x i do believe the rr port i did where wifi was broke the phone runs fast so im trying to fix the wifi for it for temp if i can if not im still working on my new rom
It's a FM receiver which requires wired headphones to be connected as the wire functions as an antenna too.
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I haven't bought the phone...yet. I'm in need of a new phone and it's just one of 3 o r 4 I'm considering. Doesn't almost 3 Gb's of bloatware seem like and awful lot? It does to me. One other item of question: I noticed and it very much caught my attention, in the specs it states: FM Radio-YES. Is this an FM receiver (local FM radio) or just Internet Stream FM?
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Hey Madvane20.
I'm using stock ROM on B170. My phone only has 8.55GB of internal storage available. From the advertised 16GB. I only have 0.44GB left. I really don't have much on my phone. But as a result of low storage I can't have all the apps and games on my phone that I want.
.how can I expand the internal storage to be more like the 16GB as advertised. What's the highest amount you have available on your phone? Do you have more than 8.55GB on your ROM? If you do how much and link to ROM plz.
Because as you know we can't install aps on the SD card. Or do you do that?
Thanks
Uninstall apps you don't need that take up internal storage, use the storage manager to clear apps caches, move data including music, pictures and videos to micro SD, set apps to store their data in micro SD where possible. Can't do anything else that I am aware of. I usually have 1GB free internal storage after doing this and have to do it regularly.
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Hey Madvane20.
I'm using stock ROM on B170. My phone only has 8.55GB of internal storage available. From the advertised 16GB. I only have 0.44GB left. I really don't have much on my phone. But as a result of low storage I can't have all the apps and games on my phone that I want.
.how can I expand the internal storage to be more like the 16GB as advertised. What's the highest amount you have available on your phone? Do you have more than 8.55GB on your ROM? If you do how much and link to ROM plz.
Because as you know we can't install aps on the SD card. Or do you do that?
Thanks
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im still sick havent got around to much have u tried this https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.buak.Link2SD&hl=en
WifiGhost said:
Hey Madvane20.
I'm using stock ROM on B170. My phone only has 8.55GB of internal storage available. From the advertised 16GB. I only have 0.44GB left. I really don't have much on my phone. But as a result of low storage I can't have all the apps and games on my phone that I want.
.how can I expand the internal storage to be more like the 16GB as advertised. What's the highest amount you have available on your phone? Do you have more than 8.55GB on your ROM? If you do how much and link to ROM plz.
Because as you know we can't install aps on the SD card. Or do you do that?
Thanks
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RE: Madvane 20
First, you need to know that no matter what, there was never 16Gb of memory. They (all electronic storage) "say"-advertise 16gb (or 8 or 2 or 64...etc) but in actuality there is only the nearest binary unit number closest to 16Gb. 16 Gb is actually 16.384 Gb or 16384 Mb.. Got you confused? OK, all storage is designated in "bytes" (one unit of storage) and bytes use the binary system when computing their size/storage capacity. Therefore an "advertised" 16Gb is only actually just slightly more than 15.9 Gb. If your not sure what I'm saying, use a conversion chart for Mb to Gb (or vice-versa) and remember that your dealing in the "binary" code. Then , on top of that, manufacturers set aside a certain number of "sectors" to account for bad/defective sectors that may occur when manufactured. Thus, it would not be unusual for 16Gb to actually only be about 14.7 Gb (or so) of actual usable storage space. Example...I have a "16" Gb pendrive that has 14.5 Gb of "actual" storage capacity on it. If the doesn't make sense to you, look up "How electronic storage works" (google-bing...etc..) Next, look up just how much "space" the O.S. on you phone occupies. Then, after deducting that number from the "actual" storage capacity, you'll be able to determine just how much "bloatware" you may have on the phone and you can -CAREFULLY- start eliminating some of those apps. This will open more "storage space" for personal use, (Mb's) on the phone. One last thing...you can put apps on an SD card. Now, that said, SOME SD cards are not "compatible" with certain phones and that may prevent you from being able apply the apps to the SD card. Some PHONES do not recognize the SD card as "internal" storage and thus, you have to re-format and change the SD card designation to "Internal". And a lot of "bottom-line" phones just don't have the hardware or firmware capabilities to handle this. Now, have I got you thoroughly confused? don't despair...you can easily look up all I've said and read and understand it at your pleasure.
Keep Pushin'
Rick
69Rixter said:
RE: Madvane 20
First, you need to know that no matter what, there was never 16Gb of memory. They (all electronic storage) "say"-advertise 16gb (or 8 or 2 or 64...etc) but in actuality there is only the nearest binary unit number closest to 16Gb. 16 Gb is actually 16.384 Gb or 16384 Mb.. Got you confused? OK, all storage is designated in "bytes" (one unit of storage) and bytes use the binary system when computing their size/storage capacity. Therefore an "advertised" 16Gb is only actually just slightly more than 15.9 Gb. If your not sure what I'm saying, use a conversion chart for Mb to Gb (or vice-versa) and remember that your dealing in the "binary" code. Then , on top of that, manufacturers set aside a certain number of "sectors" to account for bad/defective sectors that may occur when manufactured. Thus, it would not be unusual for 16Gb to actually only be about 14.7 Gb (or so) of actual usable storage space. Example...I have a "16" Gb pendrive that has 14.5 Gb of "actual" storage capacity on it. If the doesn't make sense to you, look up "How electronic storage works" (google-bing...etc..) Next, look up just how much "space" the O.S. on you phone occupies. Then, after deducting that number from the "actual" storage capacity, you'll be able to determine just how much "bloatware" you may have on the phone and you can -CAREFULLY- start eliminating some of those apps. This will open more "storage space" for personal use, (Mb's) on the phone. One last thing...you can put apps on an SD card. Now, that said, SOME SD cards are not "compatible" with certain phones and that may prevent you from being able apply the apps to the SD card. Some PHONES do not recognize the SD card as "internal" storage and thus, you have to re-format and change the SD card designation to "Internal". And a lot of "bottom-line" phones just don't have the hardware or firmware capabilities to handle this. Now, have I got you thoroughly confused? don't despair...you can easily look up all I've said and read and understand it at your pleasure.
Keep Pushin'
Rick
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No you don't have me confused at all. Thank you for the response Madame. Sorry for the late reply. Well I think today is the day I will finally root and flash a new ROM. As im tired of EMUI and no adoptable storage.
Can you link me to the ROM you reccomend? I want adoptable storage. Not that much bloatware. Full functionality, including camera, wifi, netflix, wireless display etc. Also I want a little more available RAM if possible. I want adoptable storage. Please reccomend a ROM.
One more thing. I've seen that the Samsung Micro SD cards above 32 GB are working for this phone . But I may pick up a 32GB or 64GB Sandisk micro SD card. Will the Sandisk be just as compatible as the Samsung? I plan to simply get an Class 10 of 95mb read speed and 10mb write speed. Like the Sandisk ultra or the Samsung evo cards. Thank you fam.
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69Rixter said:
RE: Madvane 20
First, you need to know that no matter what, there was never 16Gb of memory. They (all electronic storage) "say"-advertise 16gb (or 8 or 2 or 64...etc) but in actuality there is only the nearest binary unit number closest to 16Gb. 16 Gb is actually 16.384 Gb or 16384 Mb.. Got you confused? OK, all storage is designated in "bytes" (one unit of storage) and bytes use the binary system when computing their size/storage capacity. Therefore an "advertised" 16Gb is only actually just slightly more than 15.9 Gb. If your not sure what I'm saying, use a conversion chart for Mb to Gb (or vice-versa) and remember that your dealing in the "binary" code. Then , on top of that, manufacturers set aside a certain number of "sectors" to account for bad/defective sectors that may occur when manufactured. Thus, it would not be unusual for 16Gb to actually only be about 14.7 Gb (or so) of actual usable storage space. Example...I have a "16" Gb pendrive that has 14.5 Gb of "actual" storage capacity on it. If the doesn't make sense to you, look up "How electronic storage works" (google-bing...etc..) Next, look up just how much "space" the O.S. on you phone occupies. Then, after deducting that number from the "actual" storage capacity, you'll be able to determine just how much "bloatware" you may have on the phone and you can -CAREFULLY- start eliminating some of those apps. This will open more "storage space" for personal use, (Mb's) on the phone. One last thing...you can put apps on an SD card. Now, that said, SOME SD cards are not "compatible" with certain phones and that may prevent you from being able apply the apps to the SD card. Some PHONES do not recognize the SD card as "internal" storage and thus, you have to re-format and change the SD card designation to "Internal". And a lot of "bottom-line" phones just don't have the hardware or firmware capabilities to handle this. Now, have I got you thoroughly confused? don't despair...you can easily look up all I've said and read and understand it at your pleasure.
Keep Pushin'
Rick
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Sorry i called you Madvane, Rick new here
What's up. I'm new to these parts of the forums. I have downgraded from s8+'s and now I'm on the H1611. I have your b180 room installed on my device and for the life of me cannot get Xposed to install without dealing with the constant boot loop. I know it takes something like 20 min. I've read somewhere but an hour is ridiculous. I have tried flashing through TWRP and I've tried through Magisk and no luck. Any idea to get Xposed installed?
Current:
Your b180 room
Rooted with Magisk
Another thing is it normal to have ram at like 300-400mb free? This phone feels super sluggish and I think MIUI is far too heavy for this phone. I agree with the folks in here that want lineageos. I'll search for a branch or source tree to see if I can get something going at least. If not I'll join the club with trying to build a tree. This phone has "0" snappiness whatsoever. A friend's LG Leon lte feels way faster than this BEHEMOTH of a phone
epikroms,
You might want to post in the H1611 Xposed thread
https://forum.xda-developers.com/huawei-ascend-xt/help/xposed-huawei-ascend-xt-t3536003/
several of us have Magisk Xposed installed and working.
Well, I actually have it installed now and haven't posted here since this part of the forums are a complete ghost town. I was gonna share my current build for this device but seeing from the lack of anything here I'm not gonna even waste time releasing it to the general public. And thanks for your response but it would've been easier with just providing some information rather than making me go through pages of nonsense. But the response is what matters. I will be returning back to a real device shortly because this phone is not as snappy as everyone says and nor is it as good as everyone says for it's dollar. I bought this phone and a brand new Samsung j3 and kept this phone because I hate Samsung but now I really wish I had kept it. So good day/evening. I am out....
divineBliss said:
epikroms,
You might want to post in the H1611 Xposed thread
https://forum.xda-developers.com/huawei-ascend-xt/help/xposed-huawei-ascend-xt-t3536003/
several of us have Magisk Xposed installed and working.
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Well what information exactly were you looking for? Installing Xposed is not a one liner and can get a bit complicated with all the different versions.
You could have written up what Xposed version you installed and how you did it to help the next person - that's how forums work.
epikroms said:
Well, I actually have it installed now and haven't posted here since this part of the forums are a complete ghost town. I was gonna share my current build for this device but seeing from the lack of anything here I'm not gonna even waste time releasing it to the general public. And thanks for your response but it would've been easier with just providing some information rather than making me go through pages of nonsense. But the response is what matters. I will be returning back to a real device shortly because this phone is not as snappy as everyone says and nor is it as good as everyone says for it's dollar. I bought this phone and a brand new Samsung j3 and kept this phone because I hate Samsung but now I really wish I had kept it. So good day/evening. I am out....
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Exactly so, why was your reply opposite of what you are telling me? And it's quite obvious that there is only the magisk way of installing it. I'm not trying to argue with you man. I asked that question a day or 2 ago and I noticed that no one really was even cruising around in the forums so I said to myself what the heck, might as well keep trying things on my own. Also, noticed developement has come to a complete stop a while ago. I honestly thought this place was deserted. It's all good though, like your thread says, to ask you anything, so I could get pointed in a different direction haha. All good though,case closed bro later.
epikroms,
It's not my thread - madvane20s thread. Yep, slow around here cause the main party is over since the devices are low volume/low-mid range and been out for a while. Enjoy your J3.