Question xperia 1 iv camera screen flicker - Sony Xperia 1 IV

I have an Xperia 1 iv but whenever I use the camera on something that is quite close, the screen starts flickering and flashing a blueish colour.
Is this a fault?

dbman2023 said:
I have an Xperia 1 iv but whenever I use the camera on something that is quite close, the screen starts flickering and flashing a blueish colour.
Is this a fault?
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Nah, that's rgb sensor measuring the distance or something.
Point another camera at your Xperia 's and you will see this thing glowing.

Doom Slayer said:
Nah, that's rgb sensor measuring the distance or something.
Point another camera at your Xperia 's and you will see this thing glowing.
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It's so irritating. Is there anyway to stop it? I find the flickering very uncomfortable to view.
I'm used to Samsung smartphones. Never come across this before.
It seems to take ages to take a photo compared to the Samsung Galaxy S8 Plus I was used to. Why does it take so long?

dbman2023 said:
It's so irritating. Is there anyway to stop it? I find the flickering very uncomfortable to view.
I'm used to Samsung smartphones. Never come across this before.
It seems to take ages to take a photo compared to the Samsung Galaxy S8 Plus I was used to. Why does it take so long?
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Not sure how to disable this, as stock camera's autofocus is depending on this sensor. Google camera is not using this, but it's half broken, so I suggest to wait for devs to make a proper config, but I advice you not to bother, as this flickering is rgb sensor highlighting the environment while measuring the depth and it's only for half a second
to establish a proper focus.
As for long time to take a photo, I assume you are using basic mode and device may decide to either use a slow shutter speed or/and hdr based on the light conditions, hence the long time to make a shot.
Experiment with manual modes, phone is capable to take 20 photos per second.
Switch to S mode for example and put a high shutter speed, it will adjust the iso for you automatically if full manual mode is too much for you. This phone is like driving a manual car, no fancy AI to do the job for you like they have on Samsung. Might be challenging at first, but once you figure it out , you gonna make amazing photos.
If this is not related to settings, clear photo app's data and reboot the phone. I had this issue after experimenting with google camera, stock app was not saving photo at all.

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[Q] Better night mode?

Hi,
The SGS2 does awesome times in daylight, but it starts to get noisy when it gets dark.
I searched on the market, but didn't find any app, that particularly could make night mode less noisy.
What I'm looking for is an app, that uses longer exposures, and reduces the ISO settings. I know you have to hold the camera still, but it could produce better night pictures.
Does anybody know any way to improve night pictures?(messing with the settings eg.)
Thanks
I also would like to know how to get better night pictures...
Besides, I can see that there's a small delay between the flash and the picture taken, what makes pics even worse...
Any idea guys?
Thanks.
I don't think you are really going to find an app to overcome limitations in the camera sensor. That's a hardware issue, and it's common in many cameras, not just mobiles.
It has more to do with the ISO sensitivity than anything else.
Well actually the picture taking happens before the shutter sound, don't get confused. Exactly when the flash "flashes" Make sure tho, that your fingers are not around the flash, as they can mess the picture up.
I quess if somebody would take the camera application apart, they could set a manual ISO. Not sure how tho...

Video

Whenever I am recording video it seems to be constantly going in and out of focus. Any idea what I'm doing wrong?
Care to expand so we can help?
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You couldn't ask both your questions in one thread? Post some examples.
I'm not sure what else to say besides it oscillates constantly, meaning fractions of a second.
Miami_Son said:
You couldn't ask both your questions in one thread? Post some examples.
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I don't think they should be in the same thread because they are different issues. Perhaps they are related, but then it would be do to a hardware issue.
What's the preferred means of posting examples?
If your having problems with both stills and videos, then it is likely related. You can attach jpg files to your post. You can upload vids to YouTube and post the links here.
Here are a few example shots.
The 1st shot is with the camera settings at default. The 2nd shot has anti-shake on. The 3rd shot has auto-contrast enabled.
As you can see they are all grainy and blurry even though I'm taking an image of something that is not moving.
The light produced from an overhead halogen. However, the pictures turn out similar under standard incandescent, fluorescent, or any other non-natural lighting. Also I tried out several other settings without any improvement (e.g. setting white balance to incandescent, setting the scene to party indoor, using macro focus instead of auto, etc.).
That's sensor grain. It happens when there is insufficient light as the sensor has to work harder to expose the scene and it heats up. Also, since the scene is so dim the camera is using a slower shutter speed, which results in some camera shake that causes a less sharp photo. Can you take a pic with the flash on? Also, if you are expecting Canon-level photography from this (or any cell phone camera) expect to be disappointed more often than not.
Miami_Son said:
That's sensor grain. It happens when there is insufficient light as the sensor has to work harder to expose the scene and it heats up. Also, since the scene is so dim the camera is using a slower shutter speed, which results in some camera shake that causes a less sharp photo. Can you take a pic with the flash on? Also, if you are expecting Canon-level photography from this (or any cell phone camera) expect to be disappointed more often than not.
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Cool, thanks so far. I will try it with the flash on. I have taken pictures in a lot of indoor light and if anything is moving the whole image is blurry. Sometimes it looks like the air is shimmering.
Perhaps what I need to do is to use something other than auto ISO?
DLarva said:
Cool, thanks so far. I will try it with the flash on. I have taken pictures in a lot of indoor light and if anything is moving the whole image is blurry. Sometimes it looks like the air is shimmering.
Perhaps what I need to do is to use something other than auto ISO?
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Nope, just like Miami_Son said, auto flash will make the difference. That or bright enough lighting. Try it during the day time.
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Like I said, in low light the camera will pick a slower shutter speed, which causes camera shake and blur of anything moving. What seems well lit to the eye is different for a camera sensor. Either use flash or turn on more lights. You can try turning up the ISO, but that can also increase grain.
Record video in 720p and the autofocus issues should go away.

xperia s camera. is this normal?

So ive been using my xperia s for 4 months now and ive noticed that the camera capabilities is really close to perfect when taking pictures under very good lighting conditions but under low light, the exmor r is really bad.. I always end up getting either noisy, grainy, and blurry pictures.
whenever i switch to night mode and take a picture on low lighting environment, everytime the camera locks on ( green square thing) i see a very sharp and perfect pic. But as i snap it, the picture that comes out is not even half as good. And whats worst is that 4 out 5 shots are blurry. i dont know if this is a software issue or hardware. Im currently on ics. 452 firmware.
You can clearly see a perfect picture when you half press using night mode. But as you press it all the way, its a whole different pic. Is this a bug? Also, im really struggling at times taking still shots. The problem doesnt occur under good lighting conditions thats why im suspecting its probably a software bug. Anybody experiencing the same?
Search the forums, its a well known fault. Doesn't seem to be a fix that I've seen unfortunately.
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Yea, I have the same problem, try using 3rd party apps, like FV-5 Camera, and try using as low ISO setting as possible to get perfetct pictures at night, but you must hold your hand still, I really don't like XS camera since it's not as good as SONY says, but apps make it better
Multi autofocus makes it a bit better for me also in low light.
i think it will be better if you use touch focus

Soft snap won't turn off?

Hi,
Quite a simple question, why can I not turn soft snap off on the stock camera app?
When taking a selfie, regardless of camera settings, the app keeps trying to apply "soft snap" to the pictures? Is this a bug? Why won't it turn off with the toggle in the settings (soft skin effect)?, Or is that another "filter" again? Why can't things be left as they are :laugh:
Also I'm incredibly surprised at how laggy and slow the shutter is to take pictures from the pressing of the button; I've a first gen Pixel XL which is still in use and it's MUCH faster for a nearly 4 year old phone.
Hello!
Deactivating soft skin in parameter do work for me. I just checked since I never use front cam to make portrait since you'll always be distorted by a wide angle camera from 50cm away.
Anyway, here is a crop I just did, you can easily see small hairs and skin detail : http://imgur.com/a/nrsSLUr
The crop is like +200% on a ok quality selfy, so yeah, quality is not best. But then again, that's just a selfy cam.
No lag for me from the dedicated photo button. Just the normal double step button to first focus then take the photo. Be sure to press all the way down. Sorry that you encounter so many issue with your device :/ xperia 1 has some flaws, but that's more like no possibility to go manual mode with x2 or ultra wide angle, fingerprint working only 75 to 90% of the time and white bala'ce can be off in colored low light.
Hildr said:
Hello!
Deactivating soft skin in parameter do work for me. I just checked since I never use front cam to make portrait since you'll always be distorted by a wide angle camera from 50cm away.
Anyway, here is a crop I just did, you can easily see small hairs and skin detail : http://imgur.com/a/nrsSLUr
The crop is like +200% on a ok quality selfy, so yeah, quality is not best. But then again, that's just a selfy cam.
No lag for me from the dedicated photo button. Just the normal double step button to first focus then take the photo. Be sure to press all the way down. Sorry that you encounter so many issue with your device :/ xperia 1 has some flaws, but that's more like no possibility to go manual mode with x2 or ultra wide angle, fingerprint working only 75 to 90% of the time and white bala'ce can be off in colored low light.
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I've uploaded screenshots of the softsnap https://photos.app.goo.gl/5aanRvhRoC8tAA646
I'm not too worried about the quality, but wish it wouldn't keep trying to soften my pictures with a silly filter!
Yeah, understand the two stages of the button press, but do you get lag with the software button though, I know i do? It's such a shame, for years of "improvements" on a phone, it's hasn't advanced much from my first gen pixel
Ho! You are right, sorry, I'm so not used to selfie cam I didn't even checked this.
Yeah, the AI enhancement can't be deactivated in auto mode, and that's somewhat silly (the same kind of silly than not having manual mode onx2 and wide lens).
The workaround is to switch to manual mode (once selected, the manual mode stay as a quick one press button, so it's not that boring) and let all the parameter on auto. You'll have an auto mode with no AI enhancement. Then again, for quality selfie, I would recommend using the x2 lens (but you will get the AI enhancement) or the x1 (in manual but need a crop) with eye autofocus and smile detection to take a self portrait, it will be less distorted since taken for an arm length, but that's just my 2 cents . The eye autofocus while ensure a good focus and the smile detection while take the photo for you. But you will not see yourself during the process so it takes multiple attempt. But result is far better. That goes for every phone in fact, but eye focus is a wonder here!
I don't think the AI enhancement work with tiers party app so video call should be ok.
I thought you were talking about the physical button. I don't really know, for me it's like 0.2sec or something like that, I can't even think of a quicker camera, especially with the focus being done at the moment of the press. It gives me the same speed feel as a dedicated camera with a shutter. Are other phone quicker? It didn't shocked me when I tried P30Pro or Oppo Reno 10X, they felt all the same for me.

How I learned to love the camera

Hi.
Like some that bought this phone I found the out of box experience on the camera a bit underwhelming and the pro app very confusing, after a bit of reading and searching and fiddling I've got it setup so I'm very happy with the results. It's not a low light or HDR monster like some camera systems but you can get some pretty nice results easily if the settings are tamed back a bit. So I thought I'd share what works for me.
Over the last few years I've had OnePlus 7t pro, LG V50, Xiaomi K20 Pro / Poco F1, HTC U12+/ HTC 10 and had a reasonable GCam on all of them and going to the Sony system was a bit of a culture shock, but the small form factor, flagship specs, SD card and 3.5mm socket are what I wanted.
BTW, I am not a Photographer or an expert by any means so if I've got anything wrong I'm happy to correct, or if anyone has more Tips and Tricks please post to this thread.
To start.
Use the Pro app AUTO mode for most pictures. It gives more consistent results than the standard camera app and can easily be set as the default.
Go to the basic camera app settings, scroll down to Launch with camera key and set to Photography Pro, this means when you hold the shutter button it'll start the Pro app by default not the Basic app.
Double click the power button and you can set the Camera app as default, that way both apps are easily accessible with the screen off, useful for video.
Make sure the Case you use allows for the 2 step shutter button, the first case I had made the button really stiff so 99% of the time I was just clicking for a shot not locking the settings with a half press.
Open up the Pro app and press the Disp option until you have the Histogram and viewfinder showing. There's plenty of Youtube videos explaining what a histogram is and how it works, it's no guarantee of a great picture but it will be an indication of a bad one.
Don't get too bogged down in all the options, I spent weeks tweaking Exposure/ISO/Shutter speeds without really understanding what I was up to and if you do understand all those options I guess this guide isn't for you!
My settings for consistent results, check out the screenshot in this link
Xperia 5 II XQ-AS52/XQ-AS62/XQ-AS72 | Help Guide | Launching Photo Pro (Photography Pro)
Drive Mode - Single Shooting
Focus Mode - Continuous AF
Focus Area - Centre
Face/Eye AF - On
JPEG
Aspect Ratio - 4:3 (12mp)
With those settings you can point, preload by half a click and get a reasonable shot most of the time. With the fancy auto multi focus wide settings I was always getting blurred pictures of my dog when he's running around due to the camera trying to focus on him then picking a random object in the frame so by the time I clicked for the picture it was a mess.
When you have a half click loaded, move the centre box around and see what the preview and Histogram is showing, if there's a hard line hitting the top at either the left or right hand side it's either too dark or too light. By moving the centre of the image slightly the camera should adjust the exposure slightly to stop the clipping.
The only other setting I tend to play with is S, click the AUTO button and scroll down to S mode. This allows changing of the shutter speed. This way you can capture faster moving objects in good light or slow down the capture speed in bad light. Here's where the Histogram is useful because if you set the Shutter too high, bright sky will clip and a bright blue sky will be white or you'll end up with a dark fuzzy picture. It's not worth going above 320 or below 80 unless it's in exceptional conditions.
I've attached some recent samples below.
Hope that helps!
Thanks for the detailed writeup. You're more on your way to be a photographer than you give yourself credit for...
Thanks! I learned more from this than reading a truly terrible book about the subject
I always use PhotoPro-Auto.
asvaberg said:
Thanks! I learned more from this than reading a truly terrible book about the subject
I always use PhotoPro-Auto.
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That's a great picture.
And you're welcome, I'm a bit tired of seeing posts saying how bad the camera is on this little phone. It does require a bit more work than a point and click phone but it's so worth it.
Nice reading and I also agree: this phone has a good camera and we just need to understand it.
IMHO the colour calibration seems to be very good.
Even in "point-and-shoot" mode with the default camera I usually get good results.
(true, I already got some surprises with light reflections at night)
After reading this post, I took the phone and turned all lights out in my inner room where I was.
Pointed to my Buddha friend and done. No much thinking. The whole process between grabbing the phone, turning lights out, taking the picture and coming back to my laptop to write this took less than 90 sec.
PS: I don't master any photography technique, and therefore I rely on the device setup and common sense.
I agree with the color calibration. It's very close to my Sony A7RIV when I've taken comparison pictures...at least comparing RAW files in Lightroom. One of my biggest frustrations with the P30 Pro was the colors of the RAW files are very off using the main sensor, and no software can easily fix it. The 5 II files are easy to work with and give good results.
Enjoyed the OP but I use the Program Mode. I live in the tropics in a mountain value and I use the EV control a lot. The rest of my settings are usually the same as given in the OP.
Here is a link to a YouTube video from a photographer who makes it quite clear that the camera system on the Xperia 5 II is not a "professional grade" system but has a place for people who enjoy producing photos.
I just wanted to add that every digital camera I've bought, stand-alone or phone, since 1998 has been defective....for 10 days to two weeks. Once I'd used it for a few hundred photos and read manuals and tutorials the cameras improved markedly.

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