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Can an At/T XDA I work on all three bands ,800/1800/1900?
Also what are the advantages that each band provides? ie. can one frequency reach a wider area...
they are the same as far as i know
but 900/1900 is only in us and some other places
and
900/1800 is only in eu and some other places
and no xda1 is only a dualband so it's 900/1800 or 900/1900
but xda2 is triband
GSM 900 is an older standard then 1800. When a phone is logged on to a 900MHz network it sends the dat with up to 2 watts, hile only sending with max. 1 watt in a 1800MHz network. As far as I know there are no special advantages/disadvantages of either. About 1900 I don´t know, since there is no such newtwork in Germany.
Can the XDA I work on all three bands if the band changer program is used?
will it work with the at/t, orange and tmobile?
qD
not 100% sure if the bandswitcher works or if the hardware is locked to one or the other
will it work with the at/t, orange and tmobile?
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like a normal phone it will work on any cellphone company which ofer gsm
I would like to know how many differences there are between this two kind of dual band.
i've bought a T-mobile from USA (i'm still waiting for it so i don't have it now) and i saw that it is a 900/1900. I'm in italy, so i would like to know if i'll use only 900 or 1900 too (i think in italy 1800 is used).
i think i'll have to unlock it, the vendor told me it is a pocket pc 2003, do XDAunlock, work on it?
(i'm sorry for the last off topic question...i post here to not make too many post around the forum)
lyka said:
I would like to know how many differences there are between this two kind of dual band.
i've bought a T-mobile from USA (i'm still waiting for it so i don't have it now) and i saw that it is a 900/1900. I'm in italy, so i would like to know if i'll use only 900 or 1900 too (i think in italy 1800 is used).
i think i'll have to unlock it, the vendor told me it is a pocket pc 2003, do XDAunlock, work on it?
(i'm sorry for the last off topic question...i post here to not make too many post around the forum)
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I'm sorry to tell you since your network works on 1800 Mhz your new T-mobile PW10B1 wont work on this frequency it's made for 900/1900 Mhz if you unlocked it or not it's not gona work, you need the PW10A1 devices they work on 900/1800 Mhz.
but there are cellphone companies in eu who use 900 maybe there are some in your country
if not well thats too bad
oh....no..... :shock:
is there anithing i can do? radio update??? something like this!
Your special edition ROM can help me?
from what i've been able to understand about the 900/1900 then it's a hardware limit the GSM part of the xda1 will have to be physically removed which would most likely be way more expensive then getting a new device
of cause i could be wrong
The XDA1 is available in two flavours (from what I read):
USA: 900/1900 bands
EU: 900/1800 bands
Since both flavours support the 900 band, you should be able to use it in Europ on one of the 'old' networks.
In Holland both KPN and Vodafone have nationwide coverage on 900MHz.
Since TIM is and 'old' company too (Telecom Italia isnt it?) I guess theyre on 900 too. To be sure: check the websites of the Italian mobile operators. Be aware that reception in some areas might be less than if you could use both 900 and 1800 bands as more and more operators are extending their networks on 1800 only (because of lack of free 900 band frequencies). I noticed this a few years back in France where in rural areas there was no coverage with a 900 phone and full reception with a 900/1800 phone (same network).
Reading the forum i've read that is possible to chose band 900/1800 and 900/1900 by bootloader and pressing calendar...can this be true for some model?
p.s. Of course TIM uses 900...i wonder if it will ever use 1900 one day
i think UTMS or some other replacement will take over before us and eu start to use the std's of eachother
just another question, i found information about special edition rom. It says that with bandswitch.exe some devices may work with other "not natural" band. So i'll try when my XDA will be shipped.
TIM wil NEVER use 1900, at least not in Europe. The 1900 band is not available for telecoms in Europe (just like the 1800 band is not available in USA)
I've got T-Mobile from US working in Russia on 800/1800 through ROM upgrade. What it did - it removed SIM Lock and turned the device into 3-band. Works perfect.
Rgds,
Cimmerian
www.briantracy.ru
i haver never heard about anybody being able to make a dualband into a triband using just software the filters and mixers in the hardware part og the gsm are different
I have never heard about that either. As far as I know frequencies are hardware based. Otherwise we could flash our XDA's to anything we wanted.
I have researched this for weeks and weeks since I need my XDA I to work on the 850Mhz network in the US quite badly.
Please post exactly how you did it
1800/1900
I got the same problem you do but reverse , I'm in the U.S and bought the phone from Europe ( qtek 1010 ) my phone will not work in the U.S because the network here is 1900 and in europe 1800. If you want I can trade with you if you have the same phone. I got all the package in a box.
My email is [email protected]
U can reach me on this email if you wish to exchange.
Lyka
There are 3 major networks in Italy that have 900 mhz networks.
They are:
Telecom Italia Mobile (TIM)
GSM 900/1800
Vodafone Omnitel N.V.
GSM 900/1800
Wind Telecomunicazioni SpA
GSM 900/1800
If you are within any of their networks you should have service with your
current Wallaby. (XDAI). You should be able to insert your sim card and go.
Some ROMS auto select the available network, others do not. There is also a program that you can cook into a ROM that give you a software selctable band switch.
I hope this helps?
Joe
Just to clarify my last post:
It has been discussed on this forum, for a few years, that you cannot
change a 900/1900 phone to 900/1800 using software.
However since your phone does operate on 900 mhz and there are
900 mhz throughout Italy, including Sardinia, you should have no problem using your current phone. In fact I have used my USA 900/1900) XDAI in Italy.
Let us know how you make out.
Joe
900/1900 T-Mobile -- Swap for an 900/1800 XDA ?
Straight swap...I made a mistake and bought a T-Mobile from the US thinking it would work in NZ....it won't and everyone on the forums agrees....so only option is to replace with a European one...
If anyone is interested, post a reply and we can set something up.
Cheers, Hamish
BandSwitching
I live in Jamaica, we have to GSM networks, 850/1900 & 900/1800 my XDA1 works well on both networks... although signal strength from the 900/1800 is stronger it makes no big difference... I believe the shorter band is essential in buildings etc. so wait till you get the phone and give it a try.
I tried the Band Switching application in the Special Edition ROM, it made no real difference.
Slightly off topic can someone point me to an explanation of UMTS???
Hi guys, I'm traveling to the S.Miguel, Azores (Portugal) this weekend and will be bringing both my captivate and x10. I'm assuming that for voice they both should work (minus the missing 900mhz band), but can I get data? I usually would take an old v600 quad band phone which does a great job for calls on the vodafone network, but I would like to use my smartphones so that I can use my voip lines to speak to friends/family here without long distance charges.
Will I be able to use data with these phones?
Btw is the APN for vodafone internet.vodafone.pt?
Thanks!
Podem responder em português se for mais fácil.
i'm from Portugal
you can use xperia or other phone, you can use on 2g or 3g mode.. data package is available too in vodafone
i sugest you buy a vodafone Sim card here, it's a lot more cheaper too navigate instead of using roaming (taxes are very high)
vodafone sim cards should be available in the airport... search somewhere like in those place that sell magazines... it's usual in here to find sim cards with a cost of 5 euro
monteiro-ribas said:
i'm from Portugal
you can use xperia or other phone, you can use on 2g or 3g mode.. data package is available too in vodafone
i sugest you buy a vodafone Sim card here, it's a lot more cheaper too navigate instead of using roaming (taxes are very high)
vodafone sim cards should be available in the airport... search somewhere like in those place that sell magazines... it's usual in here to find sim cards with a cost of 5 euro
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I hope you're right about the 2G and 3G working, but I don't know how the coverage will be on the island without 900mhz band. North American models (X10a) have 850mhz instead of 900, the other frequencies I think are the same.
As for vodaphone SIM cards, I did that 3 or 4 times already with older phones Not a chance I'll be paying $300+ to my local provider because of roaming
Just be sure the handsets are unlocked and you will be fine.
Portugal is 2G (GSM ) 900 1800 3G 2100
Xperia x10a 2G (GSM ) 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100 / 800
You will get 2g and 3g there no issues what so ever.
Vodafone is an excellent option anywhere in the EU any q's just pm me I am eurotrash so I am able to assist
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Just be sure the handsets are unlocked and you will be fine.
Portugal is 2G (GSM ) 900 1800 3G 2100
Xperia x10a 2G (GSM ) 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100 / 800
You will get 2g and 3g there no issues what so ever.
Vodafone is an excellent option anywhere in the EU any q's just pm me I am eurotrash so I am able to assist
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Well that pretty much answers my main question. Thank you! Just need to google the APN settings when I get there
Actually you do not need to. The Vodafone sim will add them for you. Well thats has been my case using Vodafone.DE/NL/GR
ProBoner said:
Well that pretty much answers my main question. Thank you! Just need to google the APN settings when I get there
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Actually you do not need to. The Vodafone sim will add them for you. Well thats has been my case usi ng Vodafone.DE/NL/GR
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We'll I'm here now and the results have been good so far! The x10 added the apn automatically but my captivate had to be entered manually
Awesome my friend! Enjoy the holiday! Just be careful of the growlers there.
youtube growler from top gear splains it quite well it do!
Rockjock007 said:
Awesome my friend! Enjoy the holiday! Just be careful of the growlers there.
youtube growler from top gear splains it quite well it do!
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LOL, I watched that episode last sunday.
Don't worry, they sell nair at the local Hiper Modelo ;-)
I understand AT&T 3G bands work 850/1900.
I also read that there are two models of the 800, one without the 850 band and one with.
If someone has a model from hong kong/ UK could you check your box to see what WCDMA bands are listed? I most likely will be getting one from either the said locations
See this thread for answers:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1392464
Quite simple:
If it's a RM-810 NO 850 MHz 3G, if it's a RM-813 it has 850 MHz 3G, but NO 900 MHz 3G.
Jack
Yes i saw that thread but im not sure which country has which model... so if someone has one from hong kong or the UK and could tell me their model number or frequencies that would be great
Hi..
I just buy a HTC Desire Z (Bell, from Canada) and I would like to know if I can use in my country (Chile, ENTEL PCS company).
How can I know which band was on my phone?
Thanks !
PS: I bought an used phone (locked to Bell) to use in my country, but I want to know if it will be works there before leave Canada, if not to sell it lol
Your country uses gsm i beleve? and north america cdma (correct me if i'm wrong)
So check if the device supports that.
Stockz said:
Hi..
I just buy a HTC Desire Z (Bell, from Canada) and I would like to know if I can use in my country (Chile, ENTEL PCS company).
How can I know which band was on my phone?
Thanks !
PS: I bought an used phone (locked to Bell) to use in my country, but I want to know if it will be works there before leave Canada, if not to sell it lol
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i will answer me..
The Bell HTC Desire Z has the following operating bands:
UMTS/HSPA 850/1900
GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900
and
CHILE
GSM 850 GSM 1900 UMTS 850 UMTS 1900
So.. I suppose I can use there, right?
PS; i cant put links where i obtained that info because i am new user
yup, that's right