Does anyone here have an update on the Linux progress?
Second that.
The mailing list never seems to send anything
MmF
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As far as I know not much is happening on that front.
To safely develop a linux port, a safe way to reflash the device is needed. Normally this is done with JTAG. Because the location of the JTAG pads on the XDA are not known, JTAG flashing is not yet possible as far as I know.
Now if anyone does have this info somewhere that would help to kickstart Linux porting.
Finding the JTAG pads would probably need hardware tracing and thus killing an XDA. If anyone has a dead one laying around please donate it to the cause.
You don't need JTAG for flashing, you only need it for developing the bootloader itself (which isn't necesary as the serial port and ROM should work the same way as on iPAQ afaik). The bootloader exists and it's developers seem quite capable. But the hard part would be hacking the linux kernel to support the radio part (signal monitoring, call handling etc.) and modifying it to be realtime-capable (because of the radio). Then, phone integration to the environment (userland), but that wil be quite easy...
Personaly, I doubt there will be a linux port ever unless HTC provides some real support (do they? ), but it would be soooo cooooooooool )
I know JTAG flashing is not nessecary per se. Lets say it this way, I know noone that is prepared ****ing up his XDA buy destroying the bootloader. As far as I have seen the flashing process is not fail safe. If the bootloader has a bug or the flashing is corrupt the XDA is dead. The only remedy is JTAG flashing then. To experiment with something like new bootloaders JTAG flashing is preferred but not nessecary.
I wanted to say that you can use the bootloader that exists, as it will already support serial port-talking and ROM flashing (probably RAM formatting etc. as well). If you don't mess with those features, it is quite fail-safe. If you implement something (GSM reset) in it, and it doesn't work, you can always disable it at runtime.
But I won't argue, I'm just a power user
Does that mean then that you can flash the thing without writing to ROM?
So to do lots of experiments, you just load the info straight into RAM...
Then just do a hard reset and the ROM reloads...
This all sounds much safer. But too good to be tue...
We all look forward to the progression of Linux. So long as HTC or somebody else in the chain help us out...
MmF
In the end it is just about how much risk you are prepared to take. Currently the XDA contains a bootloader in the first blocks of Flash ROM. There doesn't seem to be any other ROM that can take over in case this first block is corrupted -> the XDA is dead.
Now one can experiment with RAM bootloaders that are started like our Wallaby patch tool. This way the orginal bootloader is not touched. It is not clear to me if this would be sufficient for Linux development.
For the Linux on Ipaq development bootloaders were used that were written over the orginal bootloader. This could result in corrupting the booting process. The only way I know to recover from this is to write the Flash ROM back with JTAG as this needs no running bootloader.
Currently I (and others) are not prepared to risk killing an XDA this way, cause our experience has been that things will go wrong once you start such projects. We first would like to solve the JTAG flashing problem with an already dead XDA. Thats also why we called for people with dead XDA's to donate them.
If anyone knows more about a good way to kick of this Linux porting process we'd be happy to look into it or publish work in progress reports.
Update
Ok, here is a little update. I might try this at some point; I am currently too busy with other stuff. As discussed flashing the device can be risky. However a combination of booting from SD/CF and running from there might be a possibility to start porting the major parts.
These are informative links:
http://www.handhelds.org/z/wiki/BootLinuxWithoutFlashing
Also this describes a bit of what we already know too. If we figure out where the wallaby boot loader kicks off the image, we could consider just flashing the image and not the bootloader:
http://www.handhelds.org/z/wiki/LoadingFromCF
Linux sets its sights on the PDA market
for more details
http://www.linuxdevices.com/articles/AT8728350077.html
Othman
Where do you want to go today!
Any news ou there.
Been a while now . . .
progress
I know of no progress on actual porting of Linux code or booting of a linux kernel in the XDA.
We did make some progress on the JTAG flashing part in so far that we now traced the pads for the JTAG protocol on the PCB. All thanks to a dead XDA donation we received. An attempt at actually salvaging a dead XDA is on the menu for next week.
So... how's the JTAG going now?
I've finally got myself an xda! :twisted:
Anyway... I'm just wondering should we have a sole category in the forum just for Linux on XDA discussion...
Pigeon.
pigeon said:
So... how's the JTAG going now?
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I expect to have a section on it finished end of the weekend.
Status is that it works, but that flashing still needs to be tested.
linux
pigeon
To those of us who want Linux. We know what we're wanting. Or like to think we do. So this Linux discussion should be moved to the other software section I guess?
Either that Or change the POcketPC bit to operating systems...
Martin
Anything
Its a new month.
Anything happening now?
Martin
See thread http://xda-developers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=886
Have had no responses yet. Maybe it's the summer.
Summer has come to a close... I wonder what the status of this is now...
Any news / info?
J
Progress is here
Hah, who would have thought this thread would ever be relevant again . We actually started over and again, but this time more serious: http://xanadux.org
We're still a bit in doubt wether to pursue Wallaby development over Himalaya, but I'm willing to let the number of developers per project decide. In the end we can't do it all alone.
So developers apply!
I can see myself using my 'old' XDA for testing/fun/development, i.e. Linux, but I am not sure that I would want to do that specifically for my XDA II, when I get one...
I will go check out the website and see what it is all about...
Thanks for the reply, though!
'j
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I just bought my new Galaxy SII for a penny. Great deal, and spectacular phone. Happens to be my first android phone as well (been waiting for one for years). The only problem i am having is when I put the phone in USB debugging the computer won't pick it up in explorer. If I enable USB mode I can copy files, but I cannot root (Trying the Xperia X10 Easy Rooting Toolkit, spits out crap about "cannot find the path specified", no matter what I do). Kies also seems to not work with the phone... I have tried both my Self Built Windows 7 HP 64 Bit Desktop and Windows 7 HP 32 Bit netbook and both have the same problem. Windows Devices and Printers reads the device but says that the driver has not been installed, when in fact it has...
Any and all help to resolve this problem would be greatly appreciated.
Haha thanks, got it working. Rooted and everything, sorta excited-kid in a candy store .
OK. So if you couldn't tell, I'm a complete newb with android, wanted it for forever, but circumstances didn't allow me to until now, and now I feel a little over my head. Sooo:
1.) Could you (or someone) maybe post links to some threads or sites that would be good to ease me into the world of android?
2.) With my Samsung Galaxy SII, if I am installing ROM's and taking them off, and installing new ones, what are the chances of bricking my device?
3.) Since I rooted it, I went over to CyanogenMod and downloaded the ZIP to the latest stable ROM. I then dropped it into my SD card, and went into a app I downloaded called ROM Manager. When I went to install from SD card, and it rebooted, it gave me an error and popped back out, seemed like I did it wrong. So how do I install ROM's (CM7 in particular).
4.) How would I go about removing that ROM after its been installed and im tired of it ?
I hate feeling like a newb, and would be very thankful for any help people would be willing to give to get me started!
Ok, two more questions .
1.) Is there a good app to backup my current apps before doing a wipe(I have a ton of them...)?
2.) I read that ROM's cannot include google apps, so how would I get them on? Would I download the APK and then sideload them?
Thanks again!
The ROMs that I downloaded were all in ZIP folders and I couldn't figure out what I should link to odin as ZIP folders aren't compatable to flash . And then my phone wont reboot into recovery or download mode (can't remember which one I need to be in for Odin). I tried with debugging on and off and it just boots right back into android. This is very frustrating, as I know I must be doing something wrong...
Thanks for all your help
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bencozzy said:
Download mode-power phone off hold to buttons vol up and vol down power is still off and connect usb cable from computer. Download mode menu will pop up.
CWM or recovery-vol up + vol down plus power from phone being off until you see forst boot animation samsung.
Odin uses .tar or .tar.md5 files do lots of reading i think zedomax has a youtube video for rooting the i777 and how to get cwm.
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thats the method i used for rooting and it worked flawlessly and was quick and easy
Wow you need to slow before you do something stupid. Take the time to read and just as important, if not more important, take the time to search the internet for your questions.
Learning what steps needed to do something to your phone is not the goal. Learning what you are doing and why, should be the goal, and learning how to do each step is a sidepoint that you learn as a by-product.
Most important thing to learn why and how to check for is to make sure what you're flashing does not contain bootloaders. If you mess with bootloaders and the smallest thing goes wrong, you end up owning an extremely expensive paper weight, i.e. a brick.
In general flashing what the majority flash here on xda is safe. But that's not a guarantee as any garbage can be uploaded. So read the entire thread. Some are long. If you can't be bothered to read the longer ones, at the minimum use the search tool to look for particular words to your question. Search before you post. It will be evident by what you ask that you've spent the time researching, and will attract a higher level of help.
I'm not trying to be mean or come down on you. You're already starting to do what's right by asking when you're not sure.
A NOTE TO YOU AND EVERY NOOB ON XDA:
One of the biggest reasons people's questions receive no response for a day or more, is because their question could be easily solved by using the search tool in xda or one google search.
In the wise words of tom cruise, "Help me, help you. Help me, help you!"
And yeah, he can fly.
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Yea. I goofed and I flashed an international ROM onto it. I was able to find a unrooted stack tar to flash. I plan to do a lot of reading before I do this again . If anyone has any ideas on where to start that would be great.
And no problem, I understand as I am a heavy user of tomshardware forums. It frustrates me when people ask for advice a two second search would pull up.
Again thanks everyone! XDA is awesome!
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I know it's been a couple days since you asked, so hopefully you've already found what you're looking for, but I always recommend people read all of creepncrawly's write ups. They cover near every question and are up to date on everything.
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OK... so I've posted in various threads about being stuck between WM6/6.5 and WP7, but from all I've tried so far all I can do is basically go between bootloaders getting blue/white leds and doing the flashes of various ROM's and getting nowhere. I personally believe the bootloaders are not working with the phone or something along those lines. Perhaps mine (and many others) phones are slightly different versions? (Model: TG01 / FCC ID:SP2-TM5-E01 / TYPE: TM5-E01 / Below barcode: MD: 0906)
I have flashed a whole variety of 6 and 6.5 ROM's without ever having an issue. So why won't it flash back now? Hence why I think it's the boot loader(s).
So, what are my options?
1) Can I short pin it? How do I do this.. what boot loader do I need on the phone? Is a boot loader necessary for this?
2) What other software tools might I be able to try, bearing in mind I can't load anything other than a bootloader and flash stuff that doesn't work.
3) Get a different boot loader??
(And frankly: Whilst we all except the risks of flashing ROM's, there seem to be a lot of people trying WP7 and failing, and being bricked.. I believe there is a common cause and we can revive people's phones - more than just mine).
When doing the PIN method, does it matter what the .enc file is called?
I'm trying pin short method because the downloader doesn't seem to have much effect.
EDIT: Nothing seems to happen when I short pin and press reset... seems a bit odd.
i revived mine about 10 times haha have you got facebook so we can use the chat on there? then i can try my best to help you out !!!
This could potentially help me with my bricked TG01 too....
What bootloader were you on when your device 'bricked'?
I was on Windows Phone 7 bootloader
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jonnyhall1bmx1 said:
i revived mine about 10 times haha have you got facebook so we can use the chat on there? then i can try my best to help you out !!!
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Got MSN/Skype/google talk?
olyloh6696 said:
This could potentially help me with my bricked TG01 too....
What bootloader were you on when your device 'bricked'?
I was on Windows Phone 7 bootloader
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Bootloader: The bootloaders that were supplied by mirolg for the upgrade to WP7. I can flash between the WM6 bootloader and the WP7 bootloader, just it never boots (Obviously flashing the right OS after each).
I am wondering if there is a difference in the models/versions of phone that would cause the bootloader not to work?
NOTE: My only other concern is regarding the instructions. It doesn't make it clear what you need to do with the drivers for the USB. On my PC('s) is won't work with actually manually installed the drivers from the directories, otherwise no phone (port) is ever detected... but they seem to ignore this point. I had to go into the device manager to get it to see the port in order to flash. So.. is this right or wrong?
i have msn messenger, [email protected] , if you would like help i have some of my own methods to try and have worked on my tg01 sevreal times. just add me on msn messenger and i will help you out the best i can
Sent a request (Best take your email off again in case of spam)
Any news/progress ?
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No progress yet. Same bricked state.
Even the short pin method won't work (Nothing actually happens when I try this method).
Trying to flash WP7 now with QPST, but it's not having it :-(
I can't get to the proper download mode, so use the hold camera button and power button, and it detects the 'download mode' it says, and then flashes multiple colours on the led. I press start in QPST, and it just goes to a white LED and says 'timeout waiting for ACK'
Major bummer.
EDIT: Phone now completed *********. Fabulous.
Could someone give me a super quick guide on how to get this on my phone? I coming from years of Samsung phones and never owned a Sony before or know anything about it. I have CM on all my Samsung devices for years and simply want a CM ROM in the Z and get it done with with. I picked up a 99% like new second-hand Ultra Z LTE C6833 today, has stock 5.02 and I don't have a clue how to get this flashed in the easiest and simplest way possible. As for locked or not bootloader, I also don't have a clue. First step which is to install TWRP I immediately got stuck because the links posted are dead (teamw.in/project/twrp2/219)
Without wanting to waste anyone's time, if someone could give me the simplest and most painless info on how to get the Z flashed, I'd be super appreciative. The threads on this phone are in the hundreds at this point and I read all sorts of very confusing and contradictory info. I worry to kill or brick it immediately before I even get started.
Thanks much in advance
Read. Thats my tip.
Every sony device past 2011 works the same way.
Look at different xperia forums, for example at the Z1 section, Z2, Z3 etc.
Look at the rooting guides. Unlock guides. Ta backup guide. Just read and read.
Dont just look at the first guide and jump right in.. read first.
Explore the Xda forum. You will find the guides im talking about. im on my phone.. a bit difficult to post links atm
Much good information can be found here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony
You can check if the bootloader is unlocked or locked by opening the dialer and entering *#*#7378423#*#*. Then tap "Service Info" and then "Configuration". It'll either say "Bootloader unlocked: Yes", or "Bootloader unlock allowed: Yes/No". If it says NO on the latter, then you can't unlock the bootloader and you're pretty much screwed. Bell Canada devices have locked bootloaders, and I believe it's the same with UK O2. Chances are that you can unlock it, but you could of course be really unlucky.
If you can unlock the bootloader, then your Ultra will pretty much behave like a Nexus device when it comes to rooting and stuff like that. Just flash a custom kernel with recovery, like NUT's Dual Recovery (with CWM and TWRP), then flash SuperSU, and you'll have recovery and root. Next step is to flash CM12.1 and you're done. It's very easy once you have recovery.
Klaos3000 said:
You can check if the bootloader is unlocked or locked by opening the dialer and entering *#*#7378423#*#*. Then tap "Service Info" and then "Configuration". It'll either say "Bootloader unlocked: Yes", or "Bootloader unlock allowed: Yes/No". If it says NO on the latter, then you can't unlock the bootloader and you're pretty much screwed. Bell Canada devices have locked bootloaders, and I believe it's the same with UK O2. Chances are that you can unlock it, but you could of course be really unlucky.
If you can unlock the bootloader, then your Ultra will pretty much behave like a Nexus device when it comes to rooting and stuff like that. Just flash a custom kernel with recovery, like NUT's Dual Recovery (with CWM and TWRP), then flash SuperSU, and you'll have recovery and root. Next step is to flash CM12.1 and you're done. It's very easy once you have recovery.
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Thanks MUCH for the detailed info!
I checked the bootloader info as you said and it's not unlocked, but can be done. It seems a daunting task but let me start by trying to get it done. Hopefully I won't screw-up the phone. I'm searching how to do it as there seem to be several ways.. After I complete the unlocking (let's hope) I'll report back and try jump on the next steps. Probably will have some follow-up doubts or questions.. this is all a very different and more complex process than the Samsung devices I've owned that never required any of this crazy gymnastics..
Anyway, thanks again very much and keep you posted!
VeEuzUKY said:
Thanks MUCH for the detailed info!
I checked the bootloader info as you said and it's not unlocked, but can be done. It seems a daunting task but let me start by trying to get it done. Hopefully I won't screw-up the phone. I'm searching how to do it as there seem to be several ways.. After I complete the unlocking (let's hope) I'll report back and try jump on the next steps. Probably will have some follow-up doubts or questions.. this is all a very different and more complex process than the Samsung devices I've owned that never required any of this crazy gymnastics..
Anyway, thanks again very much and keep you posted!
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I'll give you the short guide:
- Go to this (offical Sony) site and give them your IMEI and whatnot
- Wait a couple of minutes, and you'll receive a key
- Now, there are two ways to unlock the bootloader - both equally official, but the easiest one is to use Flashtool.
- Hit the "BLU" button and enter the key you got fra Sony. You only have to do this once.
- Once this is done, you can start flashing a kernel with recovery and flash whatever you'd like.
I'll help you along the way if you need to, so don't be afraid to ask any questions. Start by unlocking the bootloader, and I'll be here if you need any help.
Klaos3000 said:
I'll give you the short guide:
- Go to this (offical Sony) site and give them your IMEI and whatnot
- Wait a couple of minutes, and you'll receive a key
- Now, there are two ways to unlock the bootloader - both equally official, but the easiest one is to use Flashtool.
- Hit the "BLU" button and enter the key you got fra Sony. You only have to do this once.
- Once this is done, you can start flashing a kernel with recovery and flash whatever you'd like.
I'll help you along the way if you need to, so don't be afraid to ask any questions. Start by unlocking the bootloader, and I'll be here if you need any help.
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Hello I am new to Sony too and I have a question. If I unlock the bootloader root flash custom roms and then decide to get back to stock and lock the bootloader will my warranty be voided?
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mike13ftw said:
Hello I am new to Sony too and I have a question. If I unlock the bootloader root flash custom roms and then decide to get back to stock and lock the bootloader will my warranty be voided?
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Yes, and that's why it's a good idea to backup your TA folder, which contains the DRM keys. Once you unlock the bootloader, these keys disappears, and that's why it's a good idea to make a backup of them. There are a couple of tools that does this for you, and you can find them in the cross-development section.
Klaos3000 said:
I'll give you the short guide:
- Go to this (offical Sony) site and give them your IMEI and whatnot
- Wait a couple of minutes, and you'll receive a key
- Now, there are two ways to unlock the bootloader - both equally official, but the easiest one is to use Flashtool.
- Hit the "BLU" button and enter the key you got fra Sony. You only have to do this once.
- Once this is done, you can start flashing a kernel with recovery and flash whatever you'd like.
I'll help you along the way if you need to, so don't be afraid to ask any questions. Start by unlocking the bootloader, and I'll be here if you need any help.
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Thank you very much!
Well so far EVERYTHING HAS BEEN A TOTAL NIGHTMARE! Nothing I try to do works!
First I installed flashtool, latest version. Im running Windows 7 64bit. It was a nightmare to get flashtool downloaded and installed. After I finally got it installed, ot took another hour updating itself and syncing stuff. When it finally finished and while holding down the Volume Down key I connected the phone to the PC via USB cable, Immediately I get an error of device driver errors. flashtool gives me also several errors. Then I tried to install the Flashtool-drivers-1.1-20130911. Then another problem, the drivers dont install at all with a message "DPinst.exe cannot execute on your operating system". That's it, finished! When I go to the Windows Device Manager, all I see is an exclamation mark under S1 Service.
So then I tried the FastBoot method. Also no luck. While holding down the Volume Up key I connected the phone to the PC via USB cable, the phone's blue light turns on, and again I get a DRIVER NOT INSTALLED ERROR. My computer refuses to recognize the phone and the device driver is never installed . The Windows Device Manager shows an exclamation mark under S1Boot FastBoot.
Then I tried the Sony way and installed the Android SDK!!!!! Immediately I find I need to download more crap, thie time the JRE Development Kit! Takes me 3 hours do download this with my useless internet connection. At this point I am already ready to throw my laptop out the window and break the stupid phone in a million pieces!
But then, there is the next problem. After all downloaded and installed, before I can even started I get stuck again, because Im supposed to go to the android SDK folder c:\android-sdk\extras\google\usb_driver and replace/install the fastboot drivers “android_winusb.inf”.. well, I dont have an extras or google or usb_driver folder on my SDK installed folder! NOTHING! THIS IS ALL RIDICULOUS!
Finally I searched everywhere on the internet for other possible Ultra Z drivers. I ft to Sony's own site and found Xperia Z Ultra (C6833, C6806, and C6843) drivers, Xperia Z Ultra (XL39h) drivers, Xperia Z Ultra (SOL24) drivers, Xperia Z Ultra (SGP412) drivers and others.. this is all crazy what a nightmare of mess and miss-information everywhere about this phone! Anyway, I tried all of them. None works.
I am so frustrated and desperate. My God! Cant get anything done. Nothing.................................. I cant believe this..
UPDATE: I give-up. Ive spent the whole day and downloaded and installed GIGS of apps and software and drivers. Nothing communicates with this useless phone. Im done.
Could anyone give me advice if its there is an alternate way to, root install a recover and flash this piece of **** phone without unlocking the bootloader which basically I cant do? If not, it will fly out the window asap, I cant deal with this ridiculous drama. Years of handling and flashing all sorts of hardware COMBINED, never gave me 1/10th of the misery and headaches this hardware has given me in one day. Xperia, never again..
By the way, Sony's "AMAZING" PC Companion app is so great and fantastic that it doesn't even have an uninstaller! No joke! Once in the computer, crawling endless directories with all sorts of files, drivers and registry entries, it will NEVER come out again. All is amazing..
You did the opposite of what I advised you to do. You did not read correct guides.
Q:Ask yourself what do you want to achieve?
You wrote in your first post "if someone could give me the simplest and most painless info on how to get the Z flashed".
Q:My counterquestion is why? Is your phones software unstable? Are you curious to learn to modify the devices software?
A:If your device is unstable. Please do a factory reset.
Q:Are you curious to learn how to modify the software?
A:Then collect information. Read. Set a timer for how long you will spend learning. Let say 45 minutes.
When 45 minutes has passed. STOP.
Take a break. Do something else and continue the next day. Repeat until you are confident to try a simple operation
For example: learn how to use adb and fastboot. Learn the commands. What they do.
I can not stretch enough how important it is to read and learn before you jump into things.
I do not see why I or anyone here should help you to unlock your bootloader. Because you do not have a clear purpose or knowledge how to do this.
VeEuzUKY said:
UPDATE: I give-up. Ive spent the whole day and downloaded and installed GIGS of apps and software and drivers. Nothing communicates with this useless phone. Im done.
Could anyone give me advice if its there is an alternate way to, root install a recover and flash this piece of **** phone without unlocking the bootloader which basically I cant do? If not, it will fly out the window asap, I cant deal with this ridiculous drama. Years of handling and flashing all sorts of hardware COMBINED, never gave me 1/10th of the misery and headaches this hardware has given me in one day. Xperia, never again..
By the way, Sony's "AMAZING" PC Companion app is so great and fantastic that it doesn't even have an uninstaller! No joke! Once in the computer, crawling endless directories with all sorts of files, drivers and registry entries, it will NEVER come out again. All is amazing..
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That what I did for the drivers and work just fine .Try it
Edit: forgot to post link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2095087
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SÜPERUSER said:
You did the opposite of what I advised you to do. You did not read correct guides.
Q:Ask yourself what do you want to achieve?
You wrote in your first post "if someone could give me the simplest and most painless info on how to get the Z flashed".
Q:My counterquestion is why? Is your phones software unstable? Are you curious to learn to modify the devices software?
A:If your device is unstable. Please do a factory reset.
Q:Are you curious to learn how to modify the software?
A:Then collect information. Read. Set a timer for how long you will spend learning. Let say 45 minutes.
When 45 minutes has passed. STOP.
Take a break. Do something else and continue the next day. Repeat until you are confident to try a simple operation
For example: learn how to use adb and fastboot. Learn the commands. What they do.
I can not stretch enough how important it is to read and learn before you jump into things.
I do not see why I or anyone here should help you to unlock your bootloader. Because you do not have a clear purpose or knowledge how to do this.
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Just to briefly correct you: I'm the type of guy that has NEVER gotten a virus on a computer. I'm the type of guy that has rooted, flashed and played around with phones for many years with more or less degree of difficulties, but always successful. I'm the type of guy that has helped many many people in this community with their hardware, when I know how. I'm the type of guy that has knows many things about the works of Samsung devices that I have used for many years and have never had an issue learning what's needed. I am the type of guy always ready to offer friendly advice when someone is in need of something I may offer help with. Finally, I am the kind of guy that has a Dell laptop, running Windows 7 64bit, that by whatever reason refuses to install the proper drivers for the Ultra Z, or the kind of guy that maybe has a flawed Ultra Z. After all, it's a second hand unit and about 2 years old, despite that it looks new.
So, the only thing this type of guy can do, is 1) try a different computer to see if the communications with the phone work, and if not, check the phone because obviously that's where the only place the problem can come from. To try different USB cables and do phone resets, that I did today several times. I learned those basics the first day of my flashing life, long long ago.
There is NOTHING to read or learn or do, when there is no communication between the phone and the computer that connects to it. You seem not to understand the very basics of the problem here is not lack of reading, instead is only lack data flow between devices.
Anyway, thanks for the constructive advice!
2 extra things: all the tools, apps and drivers you have suggested, I have them all. All the procedures, steps, folders where stuff is and goes.. I've done all. I learn very quickly. The issue is none of that.. the issue is, no driver for this phone will install on my laptop, for whatever reason. Is that simple.
And then there is another issue.. for you, and most people on XDA, downloading and getting "stuff" is a breeze. But not me. Where I am, XDA is blocked, and even with a VPN, hardly works. To reply to you or just log-in, sometimes is an hour. And most file hosts? Mega? Rapidgator.net? Zippy share?.. a few hundred others? Well.. they doesn't work. Uploaded.net.. Mediafire.. Google Drive.. AndroidFile Host, and just about everything else, all DON'T WORK. All blocked. So are blocked most of the VPNs now. So, while for you, go here, get this, download that, is all a piece of cake, for me, is not. Most things to get download are truly a nightmare. And when it comes to download a ROM or any 2 or 3 hundred Mg files, sometimes takes me days of endless wait and interrupted downloads. I live in a crazy country called China, where all Google stuff, Android included, is forbidden, and all around it.. XDA included.
So, talk is easy. But when access to simple and basic information is so difficult to get and everything comes at a premium, life is really a bit more complicated than maybe you can imagine. So...... yeah, help is very much appreciated indeed, in the same way I am always willing to help others when I can, without calling out their lack or reading or question their abilities to follow my advice
Alright, that was quite painful to read, not because of something wrong you wrote, but because I've been there too. I don't know what device you had prior to the Ultra, but just forget what you learned from that device.
Just sit down, relax and figure out what you're trying to do, and then how to maybe achieve it. Yes, I do understand that your laptop doesn't cooperate at all, but that's just technology. Of course it won't work when it should. We've all been there.
1. Set up your computer to be able to communicate with your Ultra. Installing the SDK is overkill since the only thing from the SDK you need is Fastboot and ADB drivers. You can easily install those two by installing this tiny tool that does it for you.
Fastboot and ADB is now installed.
2. Install Flashtool. You've already done this. Connect your Ultra and open Flashtool. Flashtool should grab and set things up for the Z Ultra automatically. This should only take 5-30 seconds. Not three hours. The device should still be powered on at this stage.
3. Okay, now you have Flashtool installed, and it recognizes your Ultra. Next step is to go to that Sony site I linked to, to get the unlock key. Fill in the required info, and you'll get the key sent on your email. Don't misplace it.
4. Go back to Flashtool, hit the "BLU" button, paste the key in, and that's it. Don't set the device into fastboot or flashmode until Flashmode asks you to do it. Fastboot can be active and connected forever, but Flashmode will disconnect by itself after a minute or so.
5. Your bootloader is now unlocked. This means that you're free to do whatever you'd like to do with it. Xperia devices do not come with a default recovery system, so we'll have to flash a custom kernel that includes a recovery. You can find them in the dev section. Once you've flashed or hotbooted a custom kernel with CWM or TWRP, you're free to root by flashing SuperSU, and flash whatever ROM you'd like to flash.
It's very easy to deal with Xperia devices once you have things set up (mainly Flashtool), and the basic steps are:
- Unlock bootloader (one time thing)
- Flash custom kernel
- Done
It's the same procedure as Nexus devices, only that we have to use special tools to unlock our bootloaders, while Nexus' use one command in a terminal. The issue here though is the tools, and not the process, and I feel your pain. I really do. It would've been so much easier if I could just show up at your door, do it for you, and leave
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VeEuzUKY said:
And then there is another issue.. for you, and most people on XDA, downloading and getting "stuff" is a breeze. But not me. Where I am, XDA is blocked, and even with a VPN, hardly works.
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Then let's make it easier? My upload speeds aren't an issue, so please point to a site that I can upload the tools too, which you then can download from at proper speeds
Klaos3000 said:
Alright, that was quite painful to read, not because of something wrong you wrote, but because I've been there too. I don't know what device you had prior to the Ultra, but just forget what you learned from that device.
Just sit down, relax and figure out what you're trying to do, and then how to maybe achieve it. Yes, I do understand that your laptop doesn't cooperate at all, but that's just technology. Of course it won't work when it should. We've all been there.
1. Set up your computer to be able to communicate with your Ultra. Installing the SDK is overkill since the only thing from the SDK you need is Fastboot and ADB drivers. You can easily install those two by installing this tiny tool that does it for you.
Fastboot and ADB is now installed.
2. Install Flashtool. You've already done this. Connect your Ultra and open Flashtool. Flashtool should grab and set things up for the Z Ultra automatically. This should only take 5-30 seconds. Not three hours. The device should still be powered on at this stage.
3. Okay, now you have Flashtool installed, and it recognizes your Ultra. Next step is to go to that Sony site I linked to, to get the unlock key. Fill in the required info, and you'll get the key sent on your email. Don't misplace it.
4. Go back to Flashtool, hit the "BLU" button, paste the key in, and that's it. Don't set the device into fastboot or flashmode until Flashmode asks you to do it. Fastboot can be active and connected forever, but Flashmode will disconnect by itself after a minute or so.
5. Your bootloader is now unlocked. This means that you're free to do whatever you'd like to do with it. Xperia devices do not come with a default recovery system, so we'll have to flash a custom kernel that includes a recovery. You can find them in the dev section. Once you've flashed or hotbooted a custom kernel with CWM or TWRP, you're free to root by flashing SuperSU, and flash whatever ROM you'd like to flash.
It's very easy to deal with Xperia devices once you have things set up (mainly Flashtool), and the basic steps are:
- Unlock bootloader (one time thing)
- Flash custom kernel
- Done
It's the same procedure as Nexus devices, only that we have to use special tools to unlock our bootloaders, while Nexus' use one command in a terminal. The issue here though is the tools, and not the process, and I feel your pain. I really do. It would've been so much easier if I could just show up at your door, do it for you, and leave
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Klaos3000, you are great. Difficult to find words to thank you the time you take to try help me out. Really much appreciated. It's almost 1AM my local time here and tomorrow I will give a try to all you suggest me step by step. If I run into additional difficulties, I will try use another computer. Maybe is my specific laptop with my windows installation that is being stupid with the Ultra Z hardware. I have installed endless drivers for HTC, LG and mainly Samsung phones and tabs, and have never had any difficulty.. just last week I installed drivers for a friend's new Galaxy Tab S2, got a recovery in, got it rooted and manually cleaned of a lot of useless samsung system bloat stock apps and crap, all about 20 minutes. Hard to understand why with an Xperia phone, things are so complicated. Anyway, tomorrow will follow your advice and report back.
Again, thanks a lot for your help
Klaos3000, despite being so late, I decided to give this another try and follow your steps.
But I Immediately run into similar problems.. I CANNOT get drivers installed.
1. I have downloaded and installed Minimal ADB and Fastboot as you suggested.
2. I have flashtool-0.9.19.7 installed and did the 0.9.19.8 upgrade by updating the x10flasher.jar file.
3. Now you suggest I connect my phone and open Flashtool. But connect my phone how? Boot it up? USB debugging on or off? Or you mean connect the phone turned off and then on press Volume up? Or press Volume down?
I tried all this, and again I get a device driver error. Because there are NO DRIVERS installed for the phone. This is same problem as before. And if I go to the drivers folder inside Flashtool and try install the drives, I immediately get an error that they cant be installed in my operating system.
I am completely stuck as before in this very simple step.
Attached screnshots when I enter Flashmode:
And this is what happens when I try install drivers from C:\Flashtool\drivers:
And if I try go to FastBoot Mode with the phone's blue light on (Volume up + connect USB Cable) this is what I get:
UPDATE:
I have finally unlocked the bootloader, using the Fastboot method! I still could not get the Flashtool drivers to recognize my phone, but the FastBoot ADB drivers installed without a problem. 2 things Ive learned with this experience I want share with anyone in the future that has similar difficulties:
1) I switched to a friend's old laptop with Windows XP. Under XP, FastBoot ADB drivers installed at the first time and absolutely zero problems.
2) I used a USB 2.0 port! If connected to a USB 3.0 port, another cascade of new problems immediately arise.
So that's it. I want thank VERY MUCH everyone in this thread that was so kind to try and help me as much as possible. I would not have gotten this done with it
My next step is to install a recovery from:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2261606
But I only see downloadable versions for looked bootloaders. Also, I want to flash a custom CM based ROM next and see a warning regarding Unlocked Bootloader with CyanogenMod, AOSP and OmniRom that the kernel needs be repack to replace the built in recovery with XZDualRecovery or things will either not work at all or require unexpected operating instructions. So again, I am extremely confused as what files to choose and what to do and worry to look for the wrong thing and worry to make a catastrophic mistake. And also I have no idea what method I should use:
- ZU-lockeddualrecovery2.8.21-RELEASE.flashable
- ZU-lockeddualrecovery2.8.21-RELEASE.installer
Thanks again for the advice and the feedback in all this
UPDATE:
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THIS METHOD IS ONLY WORKING ON SOME DEVICES
THIS IS THE LEGACY METHOD.
IF YOU WANT TO DO IT YOUR SELF TYPE OF THING...
IF YOU WANT ME TO DO IT FOR YOU AND BE GUARANTEED
WORKING ALL ZONE3 DEVICES
YOU VISIT MY SITE AND DONATE FOR MY TIME.
I NO LONGER SUPPORT THE OLD SOMETIMES IT WORKS LEGACY METHOD LISTED HERE
AND NO LONGER HOST THE LEGACY (FREE) KIT TO DO IT YOUR SELF
SINCE SOME FOLKS LIKE TO GET RUDE TO DEVELOPERS ON THESE THREADS
IF YOU WANT TO ROOT YOUR ZONE3 READ UP ON XDA LEARN TO CODE AND REMEMBER GOOGLE IS YOUR FRIEND.
STOP BEING RUDE TO DEVS ON XDA OR YOU MAY NEVER GET WHAT YOU WANT.
BE INTELLIGENT ENOUGH TO FIGURE IT ALL OUT ON YOUR OWN AS WE HAVE OR BE NICE. RUDENESS GETS YOU NO-WHERE IN LIFE
THANKS
Astr4y4L
Welcome To Zone 3 Root Method ! This is confirmed and 100% solid.
Once You Have Root Access you will be able to do lots of Kool things, But you can also Brick Your Device Very Easily Too !!!
NOTE:* ( BE VERY CARFUL MODIFYING ANY OF THE .PROP FILES THERE ARE DISCRIPTERS IN THEM THAT LGUP USES TO IDENTIFY YOUR DEVICE... IF YOU CHANGE THOSE AND THEN MESS UP ANYTHING ELSE BAD ENOUGH YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO RECOVER YOUR DEVICE...YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED! )
Myself and others Have worked very hard to bring you this comprehensive root package...
My Root Package And my Method Are absolutly free to download and will remain so. We Are Very Limited in Hardware and Cash for further Development...
But... I Will Keep My Work Publicly Available for all for free as long as i can.
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IF YOU ARE WORRIED ABOUT YOUR DEVICES WARRANTY, LEAVE NOW !!!
IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT ROOT OR A.D.B. MEANS.... LEAVE NOW, YOU'LL JUST HAVE TO BUY A DIFFERENT PHONE.
DO NOT BLAME ME OR XDA IF YOU PERFORM THIS MODIFICATION AND END UP WITH A PAPERWEIGHT...I KNOW HOW BAD THAT SUCKS...I HAVE A DRAWER FULL OF THEM FROM DEVELOPING THIS ROOT-METHOD.
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DO NOT ASK QUESTIONS HERE THEY WILL NOT BE ANSWERED...
IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS OR NEED HELP POST IN THE THREAD HERE:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/general/general/lgvs425pp-optimus-zone-3-stock-t3515462
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Ok Lets Begin !!!
WHAT YOU NEED :
1: A WINDOWS P.C WITH WORKING ADB.
2: PP2 SOFTWARE VERSION AND LGUP ALONG WITH LGUP COMMON DLL DOWNLOADED FROM HERE:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B1Sfod4HWfk2MUwxNk1oeXJCZEE?usp=sharing
3: MY ROOT PACKAGE AND INSTRUCTIONS {ZONE3_ROOT.ZIP} DOWNLOAD FROM MY DEVELOPMENT SERVER HERE:
link updated
https://yadi.sk/d/OWWUDrxQ3PwRUW
4: PATIENCE
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Ok so what you need to do is go get all those files I mentioned first.
Then setup your adb and get that working, Next you want to setup LGuP
For your device. if you have problems there is a nice tool to automagically get lgup working called "UpperCut" by an xda member @autoprime
so you can get that here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g5/development/uppercut-lgup-loader-g5-variants-t3511295
once youve set that up unzip Zone3_Root.zip to desktop open admin command prompt "windows-key + x" I believe and change directory to unzipped Zone3_Root
Now open Zone3_Root on your desktop there is a rich-text document that I have prepared with exact instructions for rooting, it's called { README }
open that.
now you must downgrade your device software to pp2 version{VS425PP2}
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NOTE:** If your device has pp5 software version you have an extra step, you must flash to pp8 or pp7... let it get to the red verizon screen and soon as it go's to android optimizing apps pull battery re-enter download mode and then flash pp2
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Ok so that went well but now right after flashing pp2 you will have bootloops. It will bootloop for a few minutes then eventually it will boot to verizons red screen.
( This is because of the modem firmware )
after it finishes booting you must connect to wifi and finish or skip through the Setup wizard, once you've done that and you are looking at the home screen go to settings and enable developers options, enable usb debugging turn off anything about verifying sources there and in Settings-->Security
Next make sure your device is recognized by ADB
now Go back to that README from the Zone3_Root.zip
follow instructions precicely and your all set with root. we flash the correct firmware for the modem partitions to the correct places.
we use the folder labled ( mrw ) to replace king root with @Chainfire SuperSU.
and then you can enjoy stable root access without bootloops and now you can go find other ways to break your phone !
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SPECIAL THANKS TO @Motojunki01 For advice file-hosting and donating a brand new Zone3 for this project
Thanks to @Chainfire for SuperSU
Thanks to all who have spent countless hours fooling with lg up and Blindly flashing the krazy krap I've come up with in the effort to fix the bootloops and such.
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DONATE TO ME !!
IF YOUR FEELING GOOD ABOUT BEING ABLE TO ROOT ZONE 3 AND HAVE BENEFITED FROM MY WORK, BEEN ABLE TO USE ROOT APPS LIKE TITANIUM BACKUP NOW AND WANT TO CONTRIBUTE TO FURTHER DEVELOPMENT ON THIS DEVICE,
WE ARE ACCEPTING DONATIONS VIA PAYPAL AND IF YOU HAVE ANOTHER DEVICE YOU SPECIFICALLY WANT CRACKED OR YOU WANT TO DONATE A ZONE3 FOR THE ZONE3_FRANKIN_ROM PROJECT "WORKING ON CUSTOM ROM" YOU WILL HAVE TO PM ME FOR AN ADDRESS TO SEND DEVICE-DONATIONS .
I want to thank xda for giveing us this place to pass information too...
THANKS XDA
Astr4y4L
Thank you so much for this!
mykehdoom said:
Thank you so much for this!
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can i get the root package free of charge. im a homeless man. unemployed. i would like to root my zone 3 to remove bloatware so i can download episodes of the inhumans
your telling me i went through over 100 XDA posts and hours of reading and research on how to root the VS425PP7 a $29.88 phone at walmart as of today just to "donate" $20.00 to you guys to get instructions on how to root the thing. In my opinion that's is CLEARLY messed up i get you guys spent money time effort and sweat getting there, Believe me we are thankful, but hell we almost paid that much for the phone! in my regards disrespectful asking to "donate" to get how to root the phone.
Astr4y4L said:
now you must downgrade your device software to pp2 version{VS425PP2}
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NOTE:** If your device has pp5 software version you have an extra step, you must flash to pp8 or pp7... let it get to the red verizon screen and soon as it go's to android optimizing apps pull battery re-enter download mode and then flash pp2
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Ok so that went well but now right after flashing pp2 you will have bootloops. It will bootloop for a few minutes then eventually it will boot to verizons red screen.
( This is because of the modem firmware )
after it finishes booting you must connect to wifi and finish or skip through the Setup wizard, once you've done that and you are looking at the home screen go to settings
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My Zone 3 came with pp8 installed
I've tried several times to " let it get to the red verizon screen and soon as it go's to android optimizing apps pull battery re-enter download mode and then flash pp2"
but every time I finish downgrading to PP2 all I get is a white screen with various black patterns...
Does this mean that my phone can not be rooted?
oh and btw...
Model# VS425PP
Software version # VS425PP8
Build # LMY47V
mykehdoom said:
Thank you so much for this!
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Your More than welcome!
theisonews said:
can i get the root package free of charge. im a homeless man. unemployed. i would like to root my zone 3 to remove bloatware so i can download episodes of the inhumans
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links updated doesn't work on pp5 devices
though we have a kit for that that cost money...
Sure buddy
CrystalineLightning said:
your telling me i went through over 100 XDA posts and hours of reading and research on how to root the VS425PP7 a $29.88 phone at walmart as of today just to "donate" $20.00 to you guys to get instructions on how to root the thing. In my opinion that's is CLEARLY messed up i get you guys spent money time effort and sweat getting there, Believe me we are thankful, but hell we almost paid that much for the phone! in my regards disrespectful asking to "donate" to get how to root the phone.
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I spent over $110 .00 on Zone3 test devices out of my pocket and had to have a few donated to get this working universally across all devices.
of those devices only one still works at all.
so Hell Yeah you can support our research and we'll guarantee your pp7 rooted remotely over a teamviewer connection to your windows pc.
BUT since you sir are disrespectful to devs trying to fund research to do EXACTLY what you DON'T have the intelligence or tenacity to do your self
I would recomend you stay FAR AWAY from trying to root your device and don't bother asking us... price for you went up to $50
However.
if you don't own a PP5 specific device and are smart enough to follow instructions the updated links here in this thread can get you rooted for free....
thanks for trashing an informative thread
Astr4y4L
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PHug said:
My Zone 3 came with pp8 installed
I've tried several times to " let it get to the red verizon screen and soon as it go's to android optimizing apps pull battery re-enter download mode and then flash pp2"
but every time I finish downgrading to PP2 all I get is a white screen with various black patterns...
Does this mean that my phone can not be rooted?
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NO
on the devices that go all screwy on the graphics theres only one option .
our newest kit available through donation at our site.
to get rid of the graphics problem just flash stock pp8 .kdz back to device you won't be rooted but will have working fone.
sorry the old method wouldn't work for you...
however the donate only method will work for you. only thing is it cost's $20 at our site.
Astr4y4L said:
NO
on the devices that go all screwy on the graphics theres only one option .
our newest kit available through donation at our site.
to get rid of the graphics problem just flash stock pp8 .kdz back to device you won't be rooted but will have working fone.
sorry the old method wouldn't work for you...
however the donate only method will work for you. only thing is it cost's $20 at our site.
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Thanks for the reply
I can go back and forth from PP8 TO PP2, PP4 & PP7 no problem
The problem for me is that only PP8 & PP7 have a visible screen
PP4 & PP2 both have the zebra print screens and they just continually reboot... I don't understand how you could root this phone if my phone is failing on one the first steps.
I feel like my best bet would be to buy a different phone... I don't use this phone as my main phone, I just use it as a podcast/music player
The only reason I wanted root was YouTube Ad away & YouTube Background play
Model# VS425PP
Software version # VS425PP8
Build # LMY47V
PHug said:
Thanks for the reply
I don't understand how you could root this phone if my phone is failing on one the first steps.
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my donate method dosen't require all those steps it's all done on the PC
I feel like my best bet would be to buy a different phone... I don't use this phone as my main phone, I just use it as a podcast/music player
The only reason I wanted root was YouTube Ad away & YouTube Background play
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xposed running fine and able to root every model of zone3 i've come against....
YouTube Ad away & YouTube Background play work great too and even luckypatcher is working great.
if it's not worth it to you I understand.
but if you want us to crack it for you it'll take teamviewer and lgup installed on your windows PC
and a $20 dollar donation to
[email protected] on paypal
there's a post somewhere on xda where I offered half-price thursdays and if you can find it and quote it to me on a thursday we still honor that.
also if your worried we can't root it. and your worried you'll pay for nothing we give moneyback guarantee if device proves in good working order and all PC components are working and we still can't root it...
We Are Confident
I even root the PP5 with this and it was not rootable the other ways either .
Thanks for your Interest and thanks for reading XDA
Astr4y4L
Well, I tried all the "one-click" apps (I don't care if they sell my info) and none work so far...
So it's time to consult XDA. Did it years ago, doin' it now. I'm new here, but you will be happy to know I read all the rules.
Time to fix this chinese piece of crap! This is the only device I own, and I can post all the processor and system info if needed. IDK if the bootload is unlocked or not, but a guy in another post for another RCA tablet mentioned he owned this same one and they said he might not need to unlock it. So IDK. NOTE I HAVE RCT6513W87 WITH NO "M" ON THE END. DIFFERENT MODEL.
So first, what am I gonna need? USB M-2-M?
I don't have any experience using ADB, however.
Don't really know what I'm doing so far.
BUMP
BUMP
BUMP BUMP
BUUUUUUMP
@Lootron
Did you try Dr Fone?
I suggest you consult this thread for more information on rooting with or without one click tools:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/canvas-juice/how-to/guide-unlocking-bootloader-rooting-t3705781
HIT THANKS IF FOUND USEFUL
I just spent the last few hours attempting to connect it to my Windows 10 PC. Nothing. 100% Impossible. Modified registry, edited drivers, tried modified google drivers but it kept saying "Windows has determined that you already have the best drivers for this device" trieda few workarounds for that. Damn, really want this rooted but it seems impossible.:crying:
Lootron said:
I just spent the last few hours attempting to connect it to my Windows 10 PC. Nothing. 100% Impossible. Modified registry, edited drivers, bla, bla, bla. END QOUTE]
Yeah, been there. However there should be a way. There's a five second window of opportunity when you have the USB connected, have the PC in the device manager. I'm willing to bet most of the process is the same when it comes to accessing the device according to Smartman Vartans tutorial for the RCA Viking Pro. I have that, the version before it and I have the Galileo, Build Number (RCT6513W87-ANDROID6.0-V21-V1.23.30-W02). It's about time I do something with it. His method is incredibly complex from the looks of it. But I'm willing to get root at least. Sounds like it's time for experimenting. Okay, I'm in. I'll see if I can pull some resources. Enable Developer settings (tap build 7 times). In The Developer settings turn it on. Turn on OEM Unlocking (to unlock the Bootloader). Turn on USB Debugging. Go down to Select USB configuration and make sure it's at MTP.
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[/COLOR]The Viking Pro used a SP splash tool to see the device , I've heard it works on this. Also listed was a driver. I'll go look for the frimware hopefully we both have the same. Then there's one thing that's been making me wonder. The Viking Pro uses the exact same motherboard and components as the Acer Icona, which has current 8.0 firmware. I don't see why for the life of me why I can't float that firmware in the RCA. It's an idea. But here's the Viking Pro link,
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/firmware-rca-viking-pro-rct6303w87dk-t3325158
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I feel forced to leave a note here. Stuck on some double reply mode. Where's the delete button?
Wow!
Hey thanks, I saw you on another forum (unless Casper Young is a common name?) and you said something about usb serials being locked, but I will defintely look into this! THX!
EDIT: BTW, my build number is V08- 1.15.20
I'll bet that's me, and my actual name. Howdy Thar. Yes USB Serials appear locked by manufactuer. When I dig into the data section of my rooted Viking Pro I happened to notice they were somehow locked and I was unable to follow the pathway. I can still try. But what I think you're trying to do is gain access via USB, correct? I talked to Smartman Vartan long ago and we have one interesting delima. Okay so we can gain access, but then what? It's not like we can just throw anything in it. I have 3 different devices The Maven Pro, the Viking Pro (both are rooted) and I got this Galileo Pro. Long story short, I was looking for compatible firmware. Went old school, look at the specs. Not the ordinary ones you find anywhere, the real specs. Go here, https://www.productchart.com/tablets/11121 sign up, yeah, WOW! Okay so I compare a few things, (I'm off exploring the Viking Pro), didn't have the galileo yet. Now, come to find out, the Viking has the same exact motherboard and components as the Acer Icona 10.1 (I forget which specific one). Hmmmm, now that's intresting. Can I, just toss it in there? I don't see why not. Others here suggest otherwise. I don't flash anything without back-up That's item #1 we need if you're gonna follow along. #2? The SP Flash Tool. I have those. Now I gotta open this puppy up and check out the motherboard. Gimmie a couple days I'll get back.
I wish we could use Odin3 but here's what I got For starters. I'll write out the tutorial if I get anywhere. How to run the SP Flash Tool:
https://androidmtk.com/flash-stock-rom-using-smart-phone-flash-tool
Current SP Flashtool: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1JzB5tzTvQYOGpVfhZNKY22_N-nD-jtDA
Firmware: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1zB1waSYM0iwdobu0jdxP1WJD6r1F8-XI
MTK Drivers: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1wRdulyOKLgeT_VWbhM9tm1-hqtgSL_BD
How to install the drivers:https://forum.xda-developers.com/elephone-m2/help/windows-10-mtk-vcom-usb-drivers-32-64-t3267033
Rooting
If your intention is only to root the device you must first enable Developer Settings and then enable OEM unlock which gives you access to the Bootloader. Now you can flash in a custom recovery and then you will be able to root the device. You cannot do so by any other means. It will reject any attempt to root unless the Bootloader is unlocked!
Casper Young said:
If your intention is only to root the device you must first enable Developer Settings and then enable OEM unlock which gives you access to the Bootloader. Now you can flash in a custom recovery and then you will be able to root the device. You cannot do so by any other means. It will reject any attempt to root unless the Bootloader is unlocked!
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Ok, I have everything, I THINK I installed the drivers, but I am waiting for it to charge to be sure. Can you be a little more clear on your instructions here? Do I flash the firmware? What order do I do everything? Custom Recovery first? Firmware first? How do I unlock the bootloader when it STILL doesn't regonize the device in ADB?
BTW, I installed the drivers by the SmartmanVartan method.
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Ok, I have everything, I THINK I installed the drivers, but I am waiting for it to charge to be sure. Can you be a little more clear on your instructions here? Do I flash the firmware? What order do I do everything? Custom Recovery first? Firmware first? How do I unlock the bootloader when it STILL doesn't regonize the device in ADB?
BTW, I installed the drivers by the SmartmanVartan method.
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How do I flash the firmware? SmartmanVartan's method?
MTK drivers
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How do I flash the firmware? SmartmanVartan's method?
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You have Windows 10 right?
Read this:
https://tehnotone.com/windows-10-mtk-vcom-usb-drivers-for-32-64-bit-drivers-installation-tutorial/
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You have Windows 10 right?
Read this:
https://tehnotone.com/windows-10-mtk-vcom-usb-drivers-for-32-64-bit-drivers-installation-tutorial/
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Yesterday, I tried flashing the firmware you linked to, and well, RIP. Bricked. Yours had build number .22, while I needed .15. So now I don't know if I can fix it. BTW Drivers worked and everything else. Did "fastboot oem unlock" and got to the "Do you want to unlock bootloader?" page, BUT the volume keys weren't programmed into it so you can't confirm nor deny. The bootloader needs to patched.
But before I get there, I need you to find a firmware that has .15 in the middle like this: x.15.x
Please, you are my only hope.
PS: I contacted Bogram, who patched the bootloader on the viking pro. If I can get the right firmware, then I can send it to him so he can patch it and I'm there. IF HE DOES IT.
TIA!
Brick
BTW, I think it might be a hard brick. I don't know much about bricking, but it won't even turn on, and the charging light comes on if even it isn't plugged into the outlet (SUPER WEIRD)
EDIT: When flashing, it never said completed. I waited for a really long time and then clicked stop. I really don't know too much of what I'm doing
Woouch!
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BTW, I think it might be a hard brick. I don't know much about bricking, but it won't even turn on, and the charging light comes on if even it isn't plugged into the outlet (SUPER WEIRD)[END QOUTE]
Wow try slowing down a bit. Sorry to hear your having difficulties with your tablet. I didn't expect you to flash it yet. No-one has provided anything to flash into it yet, I thought we were going to go looking. I'm hoping there can be a way to get past a brick. I've been reluctant to flash any of my devices for exactly the reason that you're dealing with. I didn't think to post what my firmware build number was, I'll edit that in.
I'll look for your firmware or ask RCA for it. This might take a bit. What color light is showing. And somehow try getting it to boot to recovery. Where you can reset it. Thats where the back-up is supposed to go also. There can be a variety of combinations to get there. Isn't there a reset hole to the left and a little below the micro sd slot. You may have to have it docked to get to recovery (the Viking Pro is like that). I'll do some research and see what I can find.
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Lootron said:
BTW, I think it might be a hard brick. I don't know much about bricking, but it won't even turn on, and the charging light comes on if even it isn't plugged into the outlet (SUPER WEIRD)[END QOUTE]
Wow try slowing down a bit. Sorry to hear your having difficulties with your tablet. I didn't expect you to flash it yet. No-one has provided anything to flash into it yet, I thought we were going to go looking. I'm hoping there can be a way to get past a brick. I've been reluctant to flash any of my devices for exactly the reason that you're dealing with. I didn't think to post what my firmware build number was, I'll edit that in.
I'll look for your firmware or ask RCA for it. This might take a bit. What color light is showing. And somehow try getting it to boot to recovery. Where you can reset it. Thats where the back-up is supposed to go also. There can be a variety of combinations to get there. Isn't there a reset hole to the left and a little below the micro sd slot. You may have to have it docked to get to recovery (the Viking Pro is like that). I'll do some research and see what I can find.
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Whoops. Yeah I'm sorry, I've always been a bit hasty. I have looked for my firmware, but would RCA give it to you? I forgot to say my processor is MT6513. Not MT6127.
Well, thanks for spending so much of your time for me though. You have been very helpful. For me, bricking it was a learning experience. I learned a LOT about how android works messing with this tablet, and come on, it was a crap-let I only decided to
"hack" it once we ordered a new one (The keyboard doesn't work anymore)
The day I did it, I got frustrated I couldn't unlock the bootloader, so I wanted to do something else, without thinking about it. LOL. Well, more learning for me!
The only light it ever does it bright blue, and it no longer does it without being plugged into the outlet. Oddly enough, I didn't think to use the reset button, and in device manager it still shows up as preloader device, even though I suspected to be the preloader to be corrupted. There really shouldn't be a reason it won't start now. Also for some reason, ADB never has regonized this device, unless in fastboot mode.
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Lootron said:
Casper Young said:
Whoops. Yeah I'm sorry, I've always been a bit hasty. I have looked for my firmware, but would RCA give it to you? I forgot to say my processor is MT6513. Not MT6127.
Well, thanks for spending so much of your time for me though. You have been very helpful. For me, bricking it was a learning experience. I learned a LOT about how android works messing with this tablet, and come on, it was a crap-let I only decided to
"hack" it once we ordered a new one (The keyboard doesn't work anymore)
The day I did it, I got frustrated I couldn't unlock the bootloader, so I wanted to do something else, without thinking about it. LOL. Well, more learning for me. [End Qoute]
Welcome to the place where you gotta play it safe. Yes RCA does provide the firmware, here;s your like for that.
https://stockromfiles.com/download-rca-stock-rom/
Now what I don't understand is why RCA implies there's no different versions of the software and you have a possible bricked device. I have a few articles that say even if your bricked you can flash in the software. Here's the tutorial for using the SP flash tool and another software location. The Tutorial makes me wonder though because if you look at steps 1, 2 and 3 they're questionable, especially #3. I'll get back to you in a bit, gotta chore to do.
https://stockromfiles.com/rca-rct65...323c6df5dcc913b1e77a5c8f2bbfe10#comment-53815
Oh, and you have yet to learn about playing with Androids These RCAs don't count. They're completely different from flashing a Samsung Galaxy or any other Androids.
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