32 MB / 64 MB battery life - MDA, XDA, 1010 General

Am I right in noticing that the batteries of the 64 MB xda model are depleted quicker than the 32 mb model
And is there any other diffrence of the models besides battery-life ?

No
The difference is unnoticable

I'm sure it's just me, but I think I get better battery life with my 64mb than I did with the 32. Battery Pack (3rd party app) now tells me to expect 3hr 10mins from a charge, whereas on the 32mb xda it used to average around 2hr 50mins.
I seem to remember seeing somewhere that the service pack release for PPCPE (which comes with recent ROM updates) had some coding to enhance battery life. Maybe I just conditioned the battery better.
rgds,
Alex.
pdaPhoneHome.com

adesalis said:
... 64mb ... 3hr 10mins ... 32mb ... 2hr 50mins.
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My 32MB Qtek gives me 10hr 46mins newly charged. Your device has to be seriously messed up.

So it said in the manual... Battery Pack's battery remaining time indicator 'learns' how you use your battery and adjusts the time accordingly.
I make phone calls and listen to WMP a lot - I suppose they both give the battery a serious caning.
I don't really believe the display anyway!
What do you do with yours?

Sorry, that last post was me, not logged in!
rgds,
Alex.
pdaPhoneHome.com

I use Spb GPRS monitor which displays remaining time depending on the load and usage of GSM. It displays 6:39 when fully charged which is correct IF
1) I connect to GPRS and use it (30kbit average all the time)
2) Have backlight on
3) Have MP3 playing
and it is absolutely correct (with a 20 minute reserve at the end)

Related

Hows ur BATTERY LIFE in YOUR present WM6 ROM?

Please POST your battery life in each ROM you installed? lets monitor in each pagepool and each AKU. *Note-i hope in each ROM, you install the same program that you have*
WM6 6mbpagepool AKU 0.7= my batt life is only 1 day
WM6 BETAversion AKU0.7= my batt life is 2 days
WM5 AKU3.3.3 = my batt life is 1-2 days
normal calls a day 20 calls 2min/percall
Telstra JAJAM LIfe
Hi. JASJAM Telstra Australia was:
WM5 - Radio 1.38.00.10 -- Battery generally flat by end of work day about 4hrs calls per day & activesync to Exchange server every 1/2 hour
WM6 Black satin, Radio 1,51.00.10 - Battery flat by/before lunchtime.. Cant get to end of day , even if charging when in the car with usb charger /lead.
I think I need to fix my proper imate car charger (lead broke) as it appears to charge faster when some of the extra pins in the miniusb connector are shorted to (ground?) & this is not done when using generic USB charger & a lead.
I dont know whether its a "feature" of WM6, but when the device syncs now, I see an extra 3G or H icon appear (tiny) next to signal strength indicator & it stays there unless you press & hold "hang up" If data acess remains on, that would make the battery life suck obviously... I wonder if it can be made to cut off after x minutes? I realise this is unrelated, but I have also been experienceing a failure of the windows "Start" icon & key on today screen after using the phone a couple of times & making notes in a call.
I will downgrade to Radio 1.50.00.00 I think & try it. But there were some posts about only versions ending in .10 working in some places ??
8Meg Pool WM5 AKU 3.3F - 4-5% lost overnight (8hours)
4Meg Pool WM6 AKU 6.0 - 25% lost overnight (8hours)
The only software I install is PA for both device. I going to revert back to WM5 as I had monitor WM6 AKU 6.0 for 2 days and I had been getting 25% lost each night.
well now using 4mb page pool... also having 25% lost overnight.... only install HTC home n iLauncher....
good that ur posting here the important thing like this. pls guys, keep on posting..
maybe i will go back also to the beta version of WM6 which give me 2 days on my batt.
Running 6MB -
W/ O2 plus 2.3 - 14 hrs usage 80%
w/o O2 plus 2.3 - 12 hrs usage ard 80%
W/o O2 plus 2.3 days 2 - 3 hrs usage ard 30%
dun seem to be alot of changes seems aft. i upgraded it to 0.7
previous wm6 0.3 ard 20 hrs to left 20%
previous wm5 3.3 can last over 1 day w/o additional charge.
duncare said:
Running 6MB -
W/ O2 plus 2.3 - 14 hrs usage 80%
w/o O2 plus 2.3 - 12 hrs usage ard 80%
W/o O2 plus 2.3 days 2 - 3 hrs usage ard 30%
dun seem to be alot of changes seems aft. i upgraded it to 0.7
previous wm6 0.3 ard 20 hrs to left 20%
previous wm5 3.3 can last over 1 day w/o additional charge.
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what do u mean by percentage 80%. pls elaborate more, im trying to understand ur info.
Guys, are you sure it's not a failing battery or software that's causing the problem? I'm still having only 4-5% at night, which is my normal drain... and I have HTC Home and WBA3 running...
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Guys, are you sure it's not a failing battery or software that's causing the problem? I'm still having only 4-5% at night, which is my normal drain... and I have HTC Home and WBA3 running...
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i just want to know where can i buy online , a cheaper but higher capacity batt.
which one ur using @ultimate? mAH?
I'm using a local brand Worcell, 1530Mah, Japan Cells. Tested to perform slightly better than the O2 supplied Taiwan battery of the same rating by me (difference of 1% drain overnight). I switched it because the battery randomly looses its charge, and had no problems since.
4-5% drain overnight, ~40% whole day use, inclusive of RSS reading and 2 35-minute bus journeys of A2DP goodness. ^_^
Without A2DP I get ~29% whole day use.
wm6 atom rom 0.3 or 0.7 = 25% overnight (without any software)
wm5 atom exec rom = 4% overnight (with WA2, HTC Home, pocket brease...)
ATOM WM6 AKU 0.7 8MB pagepool with HTC Home plugin & Touch Cube
ATOM WM6 AKU 0.7 8MB pagepool with HTC Home plugin & Touch Cube
15hours (9am-12midnite) usage and my battery is down to 60-70% of battery power left. I think thats pretty good battery life ( I switch off bluetooth though) - just normal PDA usage, SMS and some short phone calls.
Before, when I was at WM5 (with Xda-Atom-ENG-20060426-MOT0822), I didnt get such a good performance from my battery - battery would drain until 30% battery power left at end of day - but thats when I also left my bluetooth on all day.
I'm still using the original battery that came with my ATOM.
Did anyone replace original battery? where´s buy?
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I'm using a local brand Worcell, 1530Mah, Japan Cells. Tested to perform slightly better than the O2 supplied Taiwan battery of the same rating by me (difference of 1% drain overnight). I switched it because the battery randomly looses its charge, and had no problems since.
4-5% drain overnight, ~40% whole day use, inclusive of RSS reading and 2 35-minute bus journeys of A2DP goodness. ^_^
Without A2DP I get ~29% whole day use.
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so ur battery last for 2-3 days?
please post also for how many days ur battery last? which batt ur using? and the normal calls duration u have in a day.
exactly what i was shouting about
wm6 8pp
if once fully charged it can work for 1 day + 6 hr
and earlier it was 3 days
I am again getting 25% loss after i hard reset and did not install Phone Alarm.
I can get good battery life.. i will revert back to WM5 AKU 3.3F to see any difference. Let me sync my data first
I am using the 4 meg pool.... anyone using different meg pool like 6 or 8.. What pool did you use to get 4-5 % loss
so ur battery last for 2-3 days?
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~2 days at the most with my normal usage. 12 hours if I accidentially leave a game running in the background.
I get pretty much the same results for 3.3F, so no difference there.
Guys, please remember that you have to redo the standard power saving tips (e.g turn off Recieve Incoming Beams) every time you hard reset or reflash your device. Make it a habit.
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~2 days at the most with my normal usage. 12 hours if I accidentially leave a game running in the background.
I get pretty much the same results for 3.3F, so no difference there.
Guys, please remember that you have to redo the standard power saving tips (e.g turn off Recieve Incoming Beams) every time you hard reset or reflash your device. Make it a habit.
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what are the standard power saving tips? pls post here all for the benefits of the newbies.
*Turn off "receiving all incoming beams"
*Turn off all wireless/bluetooth applications if not in use.
*Reduce the brightness of the backlight
hows everyones battery?
i will monitor again my battery for the upcoming release of new ROM. Hope jiggs can finish that soon.
as of now maximum 2 days i can use my atom with normal duration and numbers of calls i have. Im in Bank Sales, thats the reason my phone is quite busy yet i manage to have the battery life for 2days. that's better for me.

Battery Life

can anyone who is lucky enough to have a Hero already comment on the battery life?
i find that the 1.5 port i have on my Polaris tears through the battery like i have never seen before. (even with all widgets disabled)
don't forget the hero has a 1350 battery fitted as standard
i have no problems with my hero and battery life....so far
As long as you dont enable GPS its fine. I get through the day with about 1/4 left.
And I Browse through wifi for about 1 hr on it. few calls, lots of txts. Few games. few apps like wifi fixer, locale
thanks for the info...
The battery life is better then my Touch HD and deffinetly better then my Diamond, and even when I keep wifi running I can get through a day without trouble,
I'm really surprised how long it lasts, wasn't expected at all,
Imagine how good it will be when an 1500mah or higher battery comes out
hi guys
im thinking of having the hero
jast a small Q
is the hero battery size is the same one as the touch HD battery size ???? (i didnt mean the capacity i mean the size of battery)
Aqrab said:
hi guys
im thinking of having the hero
jast a small Q
is the hero battery size is the same one as the touch HD battery size ???? (i didnt mean the capacity i mean the size of battery)
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No, its thinner but longer. The HD is Shorter but fatter.
One thing I would add about battery life, and that is that when on standby it is excellent.
My Hero came off charge yesterday at about 11am and essentially sat on my desk barely being touched for the rest off the day - a couple of phone calls, a text message, and a few emails. According to the meter on the phone status, I'm at 70%, which means I'd probably have no qualms picking it up and going out now without worrying too much about my battery life.
On my G1, I know that had I left the phone for 24 hours on standby, I'd probably be down to less than 25% by now.
Regards,
Dave
I have not had my Hero long enough to make much of a comment on battery life though I had nothing to complain about until this morning.
I went to bed with about half battery life indicated and I just left the phone. When I got up this morning it had low battery - very unexpected.
I left WiFi off but I have left most settings at their default which means that the phone will be auto syncing my Google account for instance. Can anyone. suggest anything that will help me?
Thanks
My phone has been off charge now for 48 hours, and although it has been idle most of that time, it is still showing 40% battery life - uptime is 50hr 47mins, and awake time only 2hrs 21mins.
Are you sure you weren't running something that would drain the power? Also, check to see if the phone is continually dropping from 3G to 2G and back again as this will drain power significantly.
Regards,
Dave
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My phone has been off charge now for 48 hours, and although it has been idle most of that time, it is still showing 40% battery life - uptime is 50hr 47mins, and awake time only 2hrs 21mins.
Are you sure you weren't running something that would drain the power? Also, check to see if the phone is continually dropping from 3G to 2G and back again as this will drain power significantly.
Regards,
Dave
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Well, to be honest, anything is possible! I dont have amazing reception at home but I still think that was unusual battery drain. Has your phone been constantly connected? I know mine is all the time because of the auto sync with Google.
I guess so - I'm getting 3 bars HSDPA where it is currently sitting, so I guess the 3G signal is sufficiently strong for it to stay on 3G.
Regards,
Dave
To save more power -
Goto 'settings' > Wireless controls > Mobile Network settings - then switch off 'enable always-on mobile' and if you can 'Data roaming'
You may have other apps that constantly check and refresh, change them to check at longer intervals - like twitter.
I can still browse internet and Market fine this way and battery time is extended.
Hi peeps
had my hero for about 1 month now this is second hand set and so far battery life is good about 2-3 days light use on idle i get 6-7days which i think is prtty good for what it dose on normal use i get 1-2 days
I'd suggest to charge the hero everyday. For Lithium-ion batteries it's best to keep them over 40% for a longer life-time. They don't suffer if you charge them very frequently.
And don't leave them off at 100% because that will have a negative effect on the life-time.
Hope that helps keeping your batteries in good shape
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I'd suggest to charge the hero everyday. For Lithium-ion batteries it's best to keep them over 40% for a longer life-time. They don't suffer if you charge them very frequently.
And don't leave them off at 100% because that will have a negative effect on the life-time.
Hope that helps keeping your batteries in good shape
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yeah it true its better to keep them topped up but for most people thats not alway possible. And in past i have let batterries go be low that and still got like 18months out of them
Wonder why but my HTC hero battery life not very good at all
doesnt last even a day with hardly any serious usage....maybe 30 mins wifi browsing, 30 mins phone browsing, less than 30 texts and maybe 10 mins call,
i had an app called battery status (full version) i wonder if this has been causing the problem....
its hard to effectively test the phone due to diff usage paterns ..any one had any prob with this particular app?

is my battery gonna die soon ?

hello all ... since it's my first thread , i am a little (more) noob ... my battery lasts a day and a half , and i noticed something strange: 100% to 50% lasts about 24 hours , and the remaining 50% less than 12 hours. in this case phone's usage is: about 1 hour web browsing via data , 1 hour phonecalls , few pics and 15 minutes of bubble breaker . i currently flashed energy rom titanium and using with spb mobileshell 3.5 and 1.17 radio . what do u think ? should i buy an 1500mAh Mugen battery? some people said that they get 3 days battery life with the same config and stock battery 1350mAh .....
Did you make sure you manage your connections (3G, WiFi, bluetooth...) properly, means they are only active when you use it.
Other than that, screen brightness setting, custom rom makes some differences too.
For me, a day and a half of battery (stock) isn't bad (ok usage). If you stream a lot (youtube), probably last a day or less.
I'm on Topix with WM 6.5 BTW
yeah .. my connections activate just when i need ( browsing or streaming ) , i set them with hd tweak and an utility that comes preinstalled with energy rom ... i checked them all including power saving mode ... it's a bit strange because the battery discharge from 50%-0% is about double than 100%-50% ... and there would be another argument : i read a battery test comparison with lots of other smartphones ( iphone , xperia x1 , etc) and , HD managed to get best score about 120 hours of standby including 50mb download , 1 hour of phonecalls , and some sms/email checking/sending .... but it seems that my HD is faaar from that ...... is there someone that is currently on 1500mAh battery ? is it worth ?
Try another radio version ( may be 1.14 or 1.12 )
but if you want a really long life battery , just install WM6.1
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my battery lasts a day and a half , and i noticed something strange: 100% to 50% lasts about 24 hours , and the remaining 50% less than 12 hours.
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Hmmm, I have simillar situation.
But my 3G is almost always on, I use BT for 30 min a day (car handsfree), I read e-book for at least 30 min a day (MobyPocket, very battery hungry), about 15 min a day web.
Your radio 1.17 is more battery hungry than 1.14 I'm using...

battery problems

hello all.
my tg01 has some problems:
1) after a full charge the battery goes to 10% in about 20-30 min of 3g opera, is this normal?
2)after a full charge the battery goes to 10% after one day of 3-4 phone calls 5-10 min each, is this also normal ?
I bought the device 6 months ago and i didn't use it for about 3 months( didn't charge it).
Is there any way to fix this problem , can i format the battery or anything else?
( i use one of the latest of miro roms based on win 6.1 with spb shell and a hero-like theme with about 75 megabite of free ram .)
ionut22 said:
hello all.
my tg01 has some problems:
1) after a full charge the battery goes to 10% in about 20-30 min of 3g opera, is this normal?
2)after a full charge the battery goes to 10% after one day of 3-4 phone calls 5-10 min each, is this also normal ?
I bought the device 6 months ago and i didn't use it for about 3 months( didn't charge it).
Is there any way to fix this problem , can i format the battery or anything else?
( i use one of the latest of miro roms based on win 6.1 with spb shell and a hero-like theme with about 75 megabite of free ram .)
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problem 1) has the false battery leak problrm. see fxdj about it. he can describe it better. it is a flase value. your battery isnt really 10%. soft reset your phone.
ionut22 said:
hello all.
my tg01 has some problems:
1) after a full charge the battery goes to 10% in about 20-30 min of 3g opera, is this normal?
2)after a full charge the battery goes to 10% after one day of 3-4 phone calls 5-10 min each, is this also normal ?
I bought the device 6 months ago and i didn't use it for about 3 months( didn't charge it).
Is there any way to fix this problem , can i format the battery or anything else?
( i use one of the latest of miro roms based on win 6.1 with spb shell and a hero-like theme with about 75 megabite of free ram .)
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Basically, the system the TG01 uses to measure battery charge is very inaccurate, one reason is that it is not measured correctly, to demonstrate this restart your phone, and guess what, you magically have a extra 10-20% battery remaining, but even that is inaccurate as it will probably drop off very quickly back to where it was before you restarted!
And in answer to battery life, well this is the big achiles' heel of the TG01, battery life is poor, its fine if you are not far from a power point or car chatger all day. This is simply a symptom of poor design, the device was designed to be the slimmest mobile phone in the world at the time, yet draws a lot of power when using certain functions and is equipped with a inadequate 1000mah battery capacity.
You cannot format a battery, but you can buy another one!
I bought a second official battery on ebay to solve this problem to a point.
Buy a Mugen-Power 1300mah battery or opt for the extended 2600mah or 3900mah batteries and you will have very good battery life, but a very chunky 1" thick TG01.
tenks for the answers. WHAT will be the improvement with a mugen 1300 mh? does anyone have it already ?
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tenks for the answers. WHAT will be the improvement with a mugen 1300 mh? does anyone have it already ?
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Literally a 30% increase in battery life over the stock 1000mah battery.
Here a video of how Mugen 2600 and 3900 looks....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfljgI6xe0s
In my opinion, the 2600 size can still be acceptable. The 3900 looks horrible..as a brick...
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The 3900 looks horrible..as a brick...
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If You want to show the people "look how nice phone I have" You are right but for whole day outdoor usage it is second to none. I have such solution and I am proud
Regards
fxdjacentyfxd
fxdjacentyfxd said:
If You want to show the people "look how nice phone I have" You are right but for whole day outdoor usage it is second to none. I have such solution and I am proud
Regards
fxdjacentyfxd
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What size of pockets do you have in your trousers?? ....
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What size of pockets do you have in your trousers?? ....
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He he. You can be laughing but I can ensure You , I can keep it it in my hand more surely than in thin cover. So in GPS usage for example it is much better than with thin cover.
Regards
fxdjacentyfxd

Android OS bug and how it affects us all

This is not a battery thread. I just wanted to do some maths based on some findings of my own.
I post this screens, taken at 50% battery. I rebooted when full battery for a fresh graph. I'm running "stock" 2.3.4 KG1. Data is always on, two push mail accounts, display on Auto, no gaming, no photos for today.
So, if the graph are accurate (I really doubt that):
1. 17 hrs 38 mins total time on for 50%
from this:
-1 hr 48 mins phone calls
- 45 mins Android OS
-1hr 2 mins display on
-Android system (the thing responsible for widgets, push mail and so on, basically for apps) 7 mins 50 secs!
-Phone idle 16 hrs 35 mins. TIME WHEN NOTHING IS SUPPOSED TO BE RUNNING IN CPU FOREGROUND
- Navigon comes up with 11% BUT I NEVER USED IT- and there are no details on CPU usage either.
- I used 20 mins of sync Wifi for the later part of today, wifi doesn't show on the graph- no clue why.
Here I stand pretty puzzled:
1hr 48 mins of calling + 16 hrs 35 mins of idle is 18 hrs 23 mins! assuming that idle does not include when calls connected and screen off .
Here are the figures for the AOS and how life would be without it.
Android OS chewed 14 % of the 50 % battery. Calling ate 43% for 1 hr 48 mins. If it wasn't for AOS bug, I would have had power to call for some 36 more mins to get to the 50% battery. That's like 30% more talk time without the bug.
Display, set on auto, drained 10% of power for 1hr 2 mins. Android OS bug stole almost 30 mins of display time for every hour . This is 50% wasted power.
Phone Idle is 4% for 16 hrs and 35 mins. So, basically, every minute under raging AOS eats 0.31% of battery. for every 1% the phone idles for 4 hours and 9 mins (and ideal stand-by time of four and an half days ). EVERY MINUTE OF ANDROID OS EATS AWAY 1 HOUR AND 22 MINUTES.
Also, the Widgets and all other stuff are actually consuming half the power eaten away by AOS.
So, if by miracle, the faulty driver is resolved by Samsung, we should get :
30% more talk time
50% more display time
350% more idle time.
Or, for the connoisseurs:
Android OS comes in, battery goes flat. No miscommunication. You can't explain that.
Good post, my own experiences (i only have my GS2 a few days coming from a HD2)
I deleted my battery stats last night and left my phone on,data was enabled nothing like bluetooth/GPS,etc,brightness is set to automatic brightness the phone was at 99% and from 12.29am to 09.59am this morning when i checked it was 83%,not too bad i suppose but could be better, i have fast dormancy disabled and i froze the Samsung apps with Titanium Backup,however the Android OS was at 41% and Maps and Cell Standby both 15%, since then ive been using the phone for some Internet, 1 call and sent a few text messages and it's now currently 12.41pm and it's at 47% and the display now shows at 35% and the Android OS is 23%, im running Lite'ning ROM 1.5, does this seem normal or quite excessive im in 2 minds myself, does the Android OS usually be as high as that when in standby,when im using the phone for a period of time it appears to go down as low as 8%.
All I can say is, use ATK. Its just working great for me.
Regards.
Sent from GT-I9100
Thank you for this. It makes the problem clear to see. There are a lot of people saying things like "it all adds up to 100%" or "hey Android OS is high, but my battery life is very good".
As you say, we'd get much much better battery life if it weren't for this damn bug. Battery life can be good now. However with a 1650 mah battery, without Android OS wasting precious energy, it would be great...
Great summary!
More info
I have depleted the other 50% of battery so I'll post the values. The phone charged when connected to transfer the files. Well, at the end of the day, it looks like the that:
1. Voice calls drained 39% of battery for 3 hrs and 19 minutes.
2. Display is 2nd with 14% and 2hrs and 20 mins.
3. Android OS gets 3rd place with 12% and 1hr 20-this is the kernel running.
4. Android System- the one you bought the phone for- is pretty shy, only 9% . I repeat, here are all the widgets, Sammy updater, mail and so on.
...
Dialer is 6%, Navigon gets 8%, Cell standby - that's the radio FW- 5%
Phone Idle is the champ with 3% @ 31 hrs and 17 mins. That's the spirit.
Also, GPS status is eating 2,2% for every minute.
Bottom line: if it wasn't for the AOS, I would have had -see below( let's be real and give each process it's share so I'll split the AOS drain to get everybody happy)- before running for the charger .
1. Phone calls. 5.6% more battery- and 23 minutes more of talk time.
2. Display. 1.7% 22 minutes more.
3. Phone idle 0.9 % almost 10 hrs.
The rest of ~4% is shared for Wifi, Cell Standby and android system.
These numbers are valid for my usage pattern, phone calls all day long/ that's why i bought a phone for/.
I might draw some lines here and reveal some facts ( the values might be different according to usage pattern):
ONE MINUTE OF:
AOS bug drains 0.15%
Voice calling (I live on a good network signal area) depletes 0.13%
Display on is lower than calling @ 0.10%.
GPS could be chewing 2% when polled thoroughly.
Widgets and other Sammy crap are not scary at all. In fact, I find them pretty decent under this SW revision.
Maybe some will find these values useful.
Maybe we don't realize the impact of implementing a bad driver. For me, it all makes a lot of sense and annoys me more. Too bad we not on Icrap's ship, the news would have been all over the web.
One last thing though.
There are 2 main issues withSGS2: AOS and wake up lag. Never listen to any wise guy that says the lag comes from deep sleep and you should be lucky if you have it because it means the phone is SLEEPING and not eating away battery. I've noticed lately a trend in trolling this issue. I am confident that the guys behind this reasoning are on the same level with the guys that came up with Killing task managers and empty ram crap in Linux. And they even wonder why the alarm is not working after RAM flush.....
Wake up lag is a side effect of some nasty crap hogging the CPU's front bandwith. I bet any trolls here that when the lag is gone so will the AOS bug be ( at least AOS will be under Idle in %).
My wild guess is a radio issue somewhere.
same problem omg :S i hate this !! but phone is great !!
KG3 Report
Hi,
I have a new report to post, this time under KG3 stock rom. This time WI-Fi off whole time. I used the car dock for 10 mins.
1 day 7 hrs and 57mins from full charge to 15%:
Voice calls 2 hrs and 35 mins -37 %
Display on auto 2 hrs and 27 mins 20%
Android system 13 % Cpu total 10m 16 s
Android OS 9% 53 min 45 s
Dialer 6% C
Cell standby 6%
navigon 4% pops up,never used it
Phone idle 4%
Although it seems the AOS got less cpu with this, the improvement is not so clear. I almost talked 1 hr less with this one.
My android is 49% of 15 hour up time from last charge but the CPU time is only 2 hours 15 minutes for it. Hardly 49% of up time. Do you think maybe firstly there is no bug, its a bug with reporting not AOS usage time and that the phone hardware just eats a lot of juice even in standby. Just a thought. The battery lasts pretty good for the fact that its so small, there's an amoled screen and a dual core processor. Perhaps even in idle the hardware just draws a lot of power to allow a quick jump from standby to fully activated without any waiting around.
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My android is 49% of 15 hour up time from last charge but the CPU time is only 2 hours 15 minutes for it. Hardly 49% of up time. Do you think maybe firstly there is no bug, its a bug with reporting not AOS usage time and that the phone hardware just eats a lot of juice even in standby. Just a thought. The battery lasts pretty good for the fact that its so small, there's an amoled screen and a dual core processor. Perhaps even in idle the hardware just draws a lot of power to allow a quick jump from standby to fully activated without any waiting around.
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Could you post some screens?
Android system is 49%? the percents relate to the battery usage, not the time.
ALSO VERY IMPORTANT:
Dual core CPU should draw less power in standby/idle/sync. this is the idea behind dual/quad cores. If you have the time, read on how do they stack processes.
Deep sleep is not working properly. How come my WIN7 x64 wakes up in less than 1 sec from standby> win kernel is around 300 megs vs 17megs Android? It is a driver issue.
htc9420 said:
Could you post some screens?
Android system is 49%? the percents relate to the battery usage, not the time.
ALSO VERY IMPORTANT:
Dual core CPU should draw less power in standby/idle/sync. this is the idea behind dual/quad cores. If you have the time, read on how do they stack processes.
Deep sleep is not working properly. How come my WIN7 x64 wakes up in less than 1 sec from standby> win kernel is around 300 megs vs 17megs Android? It is a driver issue.
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So instead of writing here, we should write to Samsung, correct? I hope this will be resolved soon, OTA update should do nicely!
tonycfc said:
So instead of writing here, we should write to Samsung, correct? I hope this will be resolved soon, OTA update should do nicely!
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Believe me, I've tried the highest official way there is. They keep blaming android/google. I even pointed them some apps that were using obsolete scripts and 4-5 ro.* that were hogging the cpu. All they answered is that is under revision. then somebody from the work asked me what the f*** is this communication about and told me to use the nexus S instead.
Here the results of a simple test I did:
KG3, CF-Root, 8 widgets, skype and viber, 2 e-mail accounts. The usage was roughly the same (mostly internet browsing, e-mail cheking and only a few voice calls 20min approx.) The difference is that in the first day I left the sync and WiFi on all the time. On the second day, I left both sync (including background sync) and WiFi off most of the day, except during the time which I was using it (browsing internet, updating market apps, checking e-mail, etc.) The result, as you can see in the screenshots below, is that with sync and WiFi off, I've got almost 26h extra of battery life (18h18min v 1d19h52min). So, for me at least, the battery drain is WiFi+sync.
Looking at the pictures, compare phone awake v screen on. With sync+WiFi, you'll see that the phone was awake many times with the screen off, whereas it didn't happen when the sync+WiFi was off.
Therefore, I think it is better to turn sync+WiFi on only when you really need it, and not all the time. That's what I'm going to do from now on.
Ah, no powersaving settings enabled in any case!
Android OS @2%
Still under KG3, nothing installed lately, nothing at all:
Full battery in the morning almost flat in the evening with very light usage- I on a sort of holiday ....
1. 16h and 2 mins it lasted
2. 57 mins of calling
3. 51 mins of display time
4. Android OS WAS 2 % running for a total of 3 mins
REALLY SAMSUNG?
I want my AoS back.....
i rooted the phone yesterday, screen on time was around 4 hours or so..10% drain per hour average with screen on-off.
freeze all bloatwares and aos went down to less than 10% (was in 40s).
will see battery improvement today.
after root, i still got the yellow rectangle at boot (havent remove it yet)..will it affect battery life? any input?
I froze the WIFI Sharing service and my phone went from dying 25% over 4 hours at work with almost no use (and WIFI off) to lasting all day, or not charging at night and lasting all night and through the next day.
Just saying.
iwang;16719645s in 40s).
after root said:
No
there are instructions posted to remove yellow triangle in the root thread .
jje
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iwang said:
after root, i still got the yellow rectangle at boot (havent remove it yet)..will it affect battery life? any input?
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If you don't understand that the yellow triangle ONLY means that the kernel you have flashed does not have the correct signature (i.e. it is a custom kernel) then you shouldn't really be messing with root at all. How would this be relevant to the AOS bug or to battery life?
What is your view on juicedefender?
Battery savers are pieces of **** that turn help battery life by constantly changing the device on something more like Nokia soap.
My Personal view on software that claim to help save on battery was/is as it is about task managers on Android... somehow useless mainly for a few reasons:
1. They interfere with running processes and I haven't seen one really optimized for the system. Some are behaving limiting the performance. Which isn't a good thing.
2. I found that even Watchdog is a drain culprit when it's running after a limbo limbo process.
I have seen this issues before, in PC world. 8-5 years ago, Sony was loading their Vaio series with so much crap that the laptops were slow as a turtle right from a start up. They failed to listed then and lost almost 60% of their market. Others reacted faster and gave the option of removing crapware ( mainly proprietary sofware and trial) when ordering [ btw,of course, anybody could do it by msconfig but few were willing to mess it...].
I can't get it why Sammy, HTC, LG won't offer a barebone/unified Android. We could all get what we need from Market and this is why we have the markets war.
I don't want my update service running in background, nor do I need email app from Samsung...in order to get them off my back I need to root, Edit a file and make sure I mount the right permissions( or BUY something to do it for me) and so on, most people don't want/can't root , not mentioning the longer the chain the more links likely to break, including the warranty is voided ...WHY all the fuss to stop something I don't want?
Microsoft hit the nail in the head with their approach to WP7 (except closing it like Apple). That's because they had to deal with screamers for 20 years and they have a clue about crap ruining an OS.
And yes, I am still waiting to see a dev coming out with a pure Android Rom on whole XDA.... for any device. They all add something to it....a tiny tweak or a tiny thing.

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