Now we all know how great this gadget is as a portable mp3 player,
Its also great for the car.... I no longer use my Cooltrax Mp3 player for long journeys... If anyone wants to try this - Maplin
www.maplin.co.uk
in the uk sells a £10 cassette adapter
http://www.maplin.co.uk/products/module.asp?CartID=030421125121999&moduleno=33816&modulecode=
That also has a handsfree mic (the mic wont work though) ... and enables you to plug the xda into your car hi-fi easily. But more importantly it has the 2.5mm headphone socket, unfortunately only a standard one, not the strange nonstandard xda version with four poles! The only downside is the usual "mobile phone noise interference" when it tries connecting to gprs while the music is playing, unless anyone knows of an easy way of shielding the cable! (get the baking foil out!)
Whats the ONLY downside of using this in the car?
Storage! With the cost of MMC cards being high, and a few games roms filling your mmc card, I started to ponder about using an external hard disk with the xda.
Obviously using a MMC>PCMCIA adapter, then plugging in a pcmcia laptop hard disk is convoluted - not to mention probably quite expensive.
Then I discovered the USB Mass Storage drivers, for pocket pc http://www.deje.gmxhome.de/download.html
which were developed for the Casio pocket Pc.... That got me thinking.... does it mean that you could install the drivers... fit the USB cradle in the car, and use some kind of usb gender changer plug to connect the xda to an external hard disk...
http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/prod...m9kdWN0X3NwZWNpZmljYXRpb25z&product_uid=35706
Wow just think, you could put all your music from your home pc in your glove compartment! and power it from the cigarrette lighter (obviously splitting the power into your xda as well) Occasionally loading it up by connecting it to your home pc!
Has anyone tried this, unfortunately I dont have a usb hard disk... :?:
obviously the xda is only usb 1.0 but presumably usb hard disks are downwardly compatibile, and the data rate required for mp3 would not be too much for the poor old version of usb to stream to the device for playback?
The xda user manual and website just says interface is USB (no version specified)
According to the Iomega website this drive does support USB 1.1
http://www.iomega-europe.com/eu/products.aspx?productId=HDD80USB20External
What are your thoughts guys?
No
Derek,
The answer is no. Enter 'slave' in the search function of this board and you will find the reason.
Sorry for the short response to your enthousiastic and long question/suggestion but the weather here is just TOO good te be inside the house.
c ya
thanks climber,
I wasnt aware of the term "slave" in relation to USB. Presumably this is just a software term with regards to the OS, or is it a more fundamental hardwired connection from the connector onto the xda data bus, that software would not be able to repurpose into being a "master device"
Derek
Make every CD as 512M Harddisk for your XDA!
Here is the solution!
http://www.pocketpcpassion.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=30816
Don't think so
Well..... it depends on your requirements I guess.
Not mine!!!
Robert
Thanks for the suggestion Joey, but I have to agree with climber... whats the point of connecting a laptop to it. Sort of defeats the object of using the xda as a in car mp3 player, why not use the laptop instead!
I'd like to have a seperate removable hard disk just connected to the xda.
shame the host/slave issue cant be resolved.
What about the PCMCIA adapter method?
Ayone tried that out?
Also a no go. An MMC PCMCIA adapter uses SDIO (as do all cards which are not 'simple storage' cards). The XDA unfortunately does not support SDIO - one of those short sighted O2 thing.
I think they wanted to prevent us from sticking Bluetooth cards in and using them instead of their pricey GPRS netowork!
Shame...
I'm keeping my optimism for the future.... Keeping my chin up despite all the tales of woe...
Hopefully one day soon someone will post a solution with some new fangled device/software combination, either that or wait until 40 gig mmc cards appear...
I'm guessing at 2007, plus of course another 2 years for the cards to become affordable.
Of course by then none of us will want the xda.
:wink:
yeah same here.....
First of all, I am happy with my XDA...........now!
This might change in the future when others enter that market as well. I have worked for Compaq and my old buddies over there (now HP of cousre) snicker about the XDA.
That has two reasons:
A) they are plain jealous because the iPAQ can't yet
B) they know what is coming up next at HP
If would bet (my mom just don't allows me to :wink: ), I would put my money on HP bringing out something like that in the future. The question is when and will it do my laundry as well?
QUESTION TO DEREK: you describe the cassette thing.... what is your experience on sound quality???
You might have seen my home grown carkit and i think of using that for the speaker. http://www.xda-developers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=853
Robert[/url]
'USB on the go'
Hi,
The soon-to-come new standard called 'USB on the go' would solve your problems.. If you get for example a hd-chassis with this on built-in, you could possibly connect that chassis directly via USB to your XDA )
You can read more on http://www.usb.org/developers/onthego
Fred
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Hi All,
I'm going on a trip in a couple of month and I would like to be able to watch dvix movies/tv shows on my qtek while travelling.
i only have a 1GB miniSD card and the 2 GB card would not be large enough
Is there a some sort of external hard drive I can somehow connect to my qtek so I can watch my movies?
Would http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=14147&vpn=WL-HDD2.5&manufacture=ASUS: work?
Thanks a bunch.
That's an idea. It should work, but don't take my word for it. If you can access your pc's shares thru wi-fi I don't see why this wouldn't work. Just do what I do and make up another excuse to buy it something like "If all else fails, it will make a cool paper weight" oh and here http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16833320110 $30 something off, if they don't screw you with the shipping this is not bad.
haha.. nowadays i get yelled at cuz I have collected too many paper weights..
I just tried mapping a drive to my computer and it sorta works..
only problem is when i watch a movie using tcpmp, it stops for a few seconds(spinning RBYG hourglass comes up)..
is there any settings to aleviate the network lag?
i've overclocked to 252 while watching with TCPMP.
also, i gots a problem.. i need some sort of battery power harddrive enclosure for portability??
Hmmm as far as a battery power harddrive enclosure, can't say I have seen one. I've played a bit of video accessed from my pc's shares and it's played ok, but I haven't tried to play anything while any of the other pc's on my network were on or my pc was using the connection, so mayb it could be too much traffic in your network at the time, can't say for certain now, cause I switched my router and modem for a 327w router/dsl modem and this piece of ^%$#%^$ isn't letting me access my shares at the time.
Word of advice to any who might have verizon dsl.... stay away from the versalink 327w, at first I though it was me who had the problem, but after some searching on the net i see that there are a lot of people having issues with it.
i just have one pc downloading off usenet.. i guess the problem might be the $5 router i'm using right now..
i guess there is no such thing as a hard drive that you can plug in to the qtek..
2gb minisd is the only way to go then...
Sadly sometimes we just gotta learn to adapt, but you might try looking at other options, look for a program called VEMOde. It's a program to encode video files it has settings for portable device, this way you can shrink your video files down considerably and they would still look good on your MDA. Anyways good luck to you bro. If I think of anything else useful I'll post back.
thx dude, i just used vemode and the file size are 1/2 the size now!
Yeah it's pretty awesome, I've been using it for some time now. I used to use it for my psp, now I use it for my MDA. Anywho glad that helped, later!
why not just carry a laptop? its a phone/pda and i think HTC did a great job making it small and usable. i could understand that you love the device and want to do everything possible with it but do you really want to be carrying around cables, extra batteries and a portable HD for a phone? :roll: its just a phone/pda phone with an okay processing speed.
I know how it is to have a device and want to do everything with it, i had the XDA Exec and wanted to use it as a laptop replacement and phone. but i fast realized that 1. it was just to big to use a phone 2. i was speeding way to much time configuring it and trying to convince myself that it will replace my laptop.
i don't have a laptop and my gf has forbidden me from making any major purchases after i bought my qtek.. that's until I get her an engagement ring :roll: :lol:
it'd be nice if i could just hook up a 30GB hard drive to my qtek..
i don't have time to watch the tv shows at nite, so the only time is on the way to work/home..
I've been looking for something like this for awhile with my 8125. I've seen a promising product announced at CeBit:
http://features.engadget.com/2006/03/13/live-from-cebit-the-widrive-wifi-drive-enclosure/
Supposed to be a battery (2 hour?) powered wi-fi enclosure for 1.8 or 2.5 inch drives. Looks to be available around July or so. This would be perfect for me; 1.8 drives are around 60GB (80 just announced), and would give me the space I need.
I have the ASUS, and its nice, but battery powered would be killer. I can't wait until the Wi-drive is released.
cjohnson6965 said:
I've been looking for something like this for awhile with my 8125. I've seen a promising product announced at CeBit:
http://features.engadget.com/2006/03/13/live-from-cebit-the-widrive-wifi-drive-enclosure/
Supposed to be a battery (2 hour?) powered wi-fi enclosure for 1.8 or 2.5 inch drives. Looks to be available around July or so. This would be perfect for me; 1.8 drives are around 60GB (80 just announced), and would give me the space I need.
I have the ASUS, and its nice, but battery powered would be killer. I can't wait until the Wi-drive is released.
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Thanks that looks interesting - seems to have miniusb charger port a plus!
Unless the device provides an HTTP daemon to serve the files, you won't be able to access them from the device. You may also require a WiFi Hotspot/hub for the Wizard to be able to "see" the device, since neither will be able to act as the host for an Ad-hoc connection.
You won't be able to connect the devices with USB, since there is no USB host or generic USB-Disk 'client' on the Wizard.
Hello guys,
i use pocketdivxencoder for shrinking my videos. I get about 180MB for one full-time movie.
I use the settings:
2pass
B-frames
15fps
206kbps (wich equals to quality 9)
I know, fps 15 is quite low but you won`t notice the difference on the mda cause auf the screen.
Image quality is quite cool on the small device.
perhaps you should check it out.
If you use a more simple encoding (1-pass, low quality) you can get 25 or 30fps because the CPU will take less time decoding. The video will look more smooth and the artifacts will be practically invisible on such a small LCD. I get 640x480 vids running at full speed on my Universal using nice simple encoding
Thanks for the tips guys, i was using vemode but i always had problems loading it.. i will try pocketdivxencoder!
cheers
My old e800 did this...
1st post folks!
When I install Ratoc's USB host drivers for Pocket PC onto my Toshiba e800 (which I am selling on ebay - goodbye, old friend) I can hook up and browse my Iriver H340 and even my sister's Ipod. So I can just copy films over onto a folder on the H340 and be able to watch them using TCMP.
Basically the Pocket PC acts as a USB host device and is able to see any USB drive hooked up to it. Does the Wizard have this ability, or is it at all possible?
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1st post folks!
When I install Ratoc's USB host drivers for Pocket PC onto my Toshiba e800 (which I am selling on ebay - goodbye, old friend) I can hook up and browse my Iriver H340 and even my sister's Ipod. So I can just copy films over onto a folder on the H340 and be able to watch them using TCMP.
Basically the Pocket PC acts as a USB host device and is able to see any USB drive hooked up to it. Does the Wizard have this ability, or is it at all possible?
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Welcome fuzzywuzzy, Ratoc dont seem to do a version that ties into a minsd card. In theory you should be able to with the wizard (if a manufacturer would make a minsd to usb link cable) but no-one has had success. Would be great if you could
I'm looking for a serial cable for my Cingular 8125. I'd like to be able to connect to network equipment via a console cable and not have to drag out my laptop.
If this won't work ahs anyone tried this with a BT serial adapter for the network equipment.
I know I'm not the only network tech around on these forums.
J-Man5
Bump.
This would be a fantasic enhancement. It would save me a small fortune if I could connect the device to other hardware.
Just made a cable for my MDA but need info on com port setup
Hey J-Man5, I have been looking everywhere for such a cable to no avail. So I decided to put one together myself. Just finished it today, but I have not tested it on any network routers yet. It is made for Cisco console ports. My problem though is that I so far haven't truly figured out how to get the MDA to use com-port 1 mode on the mini-USB connector. Again I have searched everywhere for any info on this but it must be a secret. I am planning on using a terminal program called PowerTerm Mobile which looks great, but again, I haven't tested it. Were you ever able to get anything to work for you? And does anyone know how to get MDA into Comm-port mode?
Thanks
Any updates on this? I'm interested in using a Wizard with the AutoEnginuity OBD-II scanner, and that needs a serial interface (don't want to fork out for the less optimal BT interface).
I found this:
http://www.gomadic.com/pocphonserad.html
...anybody tried it?
-HoB
That cable posted above won't work beause it's not compatible with the wizard aka T-Mobile MDA III. They started using the mini usb at that point.
CompUSA is selling the Motorola DC800 Bluetooth Stereo Transceiver for $39.99. It shows up as a COM port in its bluetooth settings.
The problem with this, though, is it still connects with a mini 5-pin USB cable (not included).
Not quite sure how to map this into your application, but at about retail for a cable/pigtail, might be worth checking into.
p.s. Sound quality resembles that described by many HT820 owners, with pops, skips, random dropouts, and excessive noise. (At least with the MS Bluetooth stack) So a data application would (hopefully) be its forte....
silex said:
That cable posted above won't work beause it's not compatible with the wizard aka T-Mobile MDA III. They started using the mini usb at that point.
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Yeah, now that I have a Wizard (yay!) I realised that the port was different. Too bad. I guess the nearest thing would be a Bluetooth-Serial adapter like one of these:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16833139008
Spendy, though. :-(
-HoB
why not go for an OBD product with bluetooth built in? like OBDKey (www.obdkey.com)
I'm looking for a good way to connect my neck-strap to my phone preferably to the bottom. Currently It's connected to the thing mounted on my hard-case that is used to support the belt-clip. This is not convenient as the phone hangs from the center. I've solved this temporarily by using double adhesive tape between the hard-case and the neck strap but it keeps coming off after awhile.
The trend of skipping irDA on current devices is sad as I use it for my TV, 2 receivers and 360. I have my X50v with noviiRemote but unfortunately it locks up frequently. The device is really old and I think It's giving up. New batteries don't help. I've been thinking of connecting a small irDA dongle to the extUSB connector prefferably by using a shortextUSB->full size female type A USB cable. The alternative would be to buy an Ipaq 211 and a Ultramote CF card. The 21x series seems to be getting full Linux support soon (http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HpIpaq214). Seems like the biggest problem is PCMCIA and WIFI.
At last, the extUSB->TypeA USB cable is great and I wonder if It's available somewhere? All I can find is miniUSB->TypeA USB.
Re: Ir:
I tried that route a few years ago with a PocketPC and found that the device is too expensive and too capable to use it as a remote and the Ir hardware is pretty weak, as it is not really designed for that kind of use. I have been using JP1 remotes for about 5 years and I am very happy to say that for about $20 in startup costs and a fairly small and interesting investment in the larning curve, I have had $15-$30 several remotes controlling all my AV hardware - and on occasion any other stray Ir-equipped device, such as my camera for taking high-zoom long distance shots, where I could not afford the shake from pressing the button. I have kids, that really tend to abuse the remotes, so I have had to replace them a couple of times - no worries, just re-program the new one and go, since they are so cheap.
JP1 framework can support just about any IR controlled device, map any/many functions to any buttons, control different devices at the same time, do macros, support remotes with LCD displays, etc.
Wikipedia article on JP1 has good links to get you started.
At last, the extUSB->TypeA USB cable is great and I wonder if It's available somewhere? All I can find is miniUSB->TypeA USB.
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I couldn't find any stores/sellers on eBay that have extUSB cables. miniUSB works fine and I'd rather carry one sync cable than two if both devices use the same port.
Thanks for answering
SirGe said:
Re: Ir:
I tried that route a few years ago with a PocketPC and found that the device is too expensive and too capable to use it as a remote and the Ir hardware is pretty weak, as it is not really designed for that kind of use. I have been using JP1 remotes for about 5 years and I am very happy to say that for about $20 in startup costs and a fairly small and interesting investment in the larning curve, I have had $15-$30 several remotes controlling all my AV hardware - and on occasion any other stray Ir-equipped device, such as my camera for taking high-zoom long distance shots, where I could not afford the shake from pressing the button. I have kids, that really tend to abuse the remotes, so I have had to replace them a couple of times - no worries, just re-program the new one and go, since they are so cheap.
JP1 framework can support just about any IR controlled device, map any/many functions to any buttons, control different devices at the same time, do macros, support remotes with LCD displays, etc.
Wikipedia article on JP1 has good links to get you started.
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I have had no problems with the range on my X50v, however I'm sitting 2m from the equipment. If range is a problem I can add the Ultramote extender. The only dedicated remote that seems to fit my needs is the Harmony 1000 but it costs around the same as the Ipaq 211 and lacks bluetooth (in case someone figures out how to control the PS3 with Android, Familiar or WIndows mobile) and a whole bunch of other things (for ex wifi to control computer). I have upgraded the X50v firmware and I hope it will solve the lockup issues. It's slower now though. The 211 lacks IR and there is no info on the Ultramote site about newer devices without IR but I'm pretty sure it can be sorted out.
unknown.soul said:
I couldn't find any stores/sellers on eBay that have extUSB cables. miniUSB works fine and I'd rather carry one sync cable than two if both devices use the same port.
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I have read some reports that using miniUSB in an extUSB outlet can damage the outlet. During the Kaiser days, using the miniUSB cable inserted didn't feel right. It feels very loose. Also inserting miniUSB into my my G1 seems to require some violence to be honest.
Found it btw: http://cgi.ebay.com/GENUINE-HTC-USB...hash=item370116068747&_trksid=p3286.m63.l1177
Just wondering what can be done with the full size USB port. I've connected two cameras and my Droid X too it and none were recognized as mass storage devices. The only use I have found for it so far is that it can charge my phone. I would love to be able to be able plug in my camera (Sony, not SD card) and dump them on to it where ever I am for editing or uploading.
Thanks
Keyboards usually work right out of the box, so that can be a nice feature. Also, I think hard drives can be hooked up, but the tablet can't really power them, so they have to be connected via a powered hub. I think thumb drives/flash drives work as well, but I haven't tried them.
For me, being able to easily get a cheap, generic keyboard working has been a very nice feature of the tablet.
I believe I recall reading that you can use it for USB GPS receivers as well. I have not tried it myself.
ahhh a Keyboard, that would be a nice addition. Now that I think about it I am going to see if my bluetooth keyboard will work (don't have a USB one)
GPS is something I am missing more than I would have expected on a tablet
I have a 32gb thumb drive that works perfect. In fact, I have 5 thumb drives all with different data on them ranging from documents to videos.
noechelon said:
I have a 32gb thumb drive that works perfect. In fact, I have 5 thumb drives all with different data on them ranging from documents to videos.
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That is what I use it for as well.
Anyone had success making USB controllers work for emulators? Seen the wiimote bluetooth setup, but I don't have a wiimote.
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Interesting someone said that the USB port cant power usb devices, i connected my bluetooth gps to my usb port yesterday to see if it would power the gps, it did, so im not sure why we would think it does not power usb devices, as mine seems to be working fine.
Im setting my gtab up in my car and wanted to know if id need a second power souce for both the gtab and the gps. Seems to gtab will provide power to the bt gps ok.
Icedvoco said:
Interesting someone said that the USB port cant power usb devices, i connected my bluetooth gps to my usb port yesterday to see if it would power the gps, it did, so im not sure why we would think it does not power usb devices, as mine seems to be working fine.
Im setting my gtab up in my car and wanted to know if id need a second power souce for both the gtab and the gps. Seems to gtab will provide power to the bt gps ok.
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It's not guaranteed to power them. Some 2.5" external drives and devices take a bit more than 1 USB slot can handle, even on laptops. Ever had a 2.5" external drive that randomly shows up or pops up then disappears? Also, ever seen a mini usb cable with 2 male USB connections? That's so that if the drive has issues using 1 port, you can plug another in and your devices will work. Even some flash drives at high capacity+speed may give trouble. There's def. the propensity for other usb devices to behave that way as well. Keyboards generally don't have that problem unless they're advanced (have lights, usb ports/hub on them), also mice don't generally have that issue either but anything else can.
What can work?
I'll say more than likely any powered external hard drive.
Some USB powered 2.5" external hard drives (my 320GB is seen and is usable, my 40GB is not as it is older and requires more power).
Most flash drives.
More than likely, any usb device engineered to worth within the constraints of using a single usb port (wireless controllers, remotes, mice, some keyboards, some gps units, etc.)
What probably won't work?
High capacity, high speed or OLD 2.5" usb powered external hard drive (750-1TB)
Advanced devices with a usb hub on them or lots of lights or moving parts, powered solely by the usb port
High capacity, high speed flash drives (though I'm sure this is vendor specific)
Interesting, so low powered devices will be usable, but not high powered ones, thats fair enough, both my bt gps and my fm transmitter seem to be working fine.
Ive ordered a 4 port usb hub which i planned to use to connect both the gps and the fm transmitter to the usb port to give them power, no biggie if it isnt able to do that, as i can use the hub elsewhere, but be interested now to see if it will work. Thanks for the heads up.
Icedvoco said:
Interesting, so low powered devices will be usable, but not high powered ones, thats fair enough, both my bt gps and my fm transmitter seem to be working fine.
Ive ordered a 4 port usb hub which i planned to use to connect both the gps and the fm transmitter to the usb port to give them power, no biggie if it isnt able to do that, as i can use the hub elsewhere, but be interested now to see if it will work. Thanks for the heads up.
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I also have an 'official Malata' USB to ethernet on the way for review to see if I can get it to work and see if there would be any interest for us in the States. I should have the demo today and will report back any findings?
IT2STEVE, I think you'll have takers on that USB->Ethernet adapter. I still stay at one hotel when traveling for work that does not have wireless (though most do). And sometimes at work, the wireless flakes out. This would be nice to have.
doctorisin said:
IT2STEVE, I think you'll have takers on that USB->Ethernet adapter. I still stay at one hotel when traveling for work that does not have wireless (though most do). And sometimes at work, the wireless flakes out. This would be nice to have.
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Have you tried tethering to your phone? I used my MyTouch 4g hotspot feature at two diners this past weekend and it worked well.
Wondering about the usb nic driver, is it provided with the usb nic ? or do we need someone to develop one ? Ive had a quick look on ebay and can see a few of these available, naturally none of them are official Malata' USB to ethernet. so that raises the question of using none Malata ones ?
I use it for a flash drive too.
The issue is that I copied mp3 from the flash drive to the g-tab..and when I use File Explorer I can see and play the songs, but in the Music app they dont show up.
320 external hard drive
Hello. I am looking to buy a 320 GB hard drive for my gtab. I am wanting to buy the Western Digital My passport essential. Do you think this will work with the USB on this device? It is usb powered. Thanks.
the tab usb will not power a standard hd
Anybody ever tried a USB TV Receiver? I'm doubting it would work, but would be cool...
I was looking to use the usb port to load pictures from my camera's sd cards via a card reader onto the tablet when I travel. Saves me from taking my laptop with me. I can do everything I need with a smaller device like a tablet now. (Might have to save them back on a flashdrive though in case the Gtab decides to delete your pictures...)
And I guess you can always use the the port for your USB Pet Rock. (thinkgeek.com/geektoys/cubegoodies/c208)
Neoprimal said:
It's not guaranteed to power them. Some 2.5" external drives and devices take a bit more than 1 USB slot can handle, even on laptops. Ever had a 2.5" external drive that randomly shows up or pops up then disappears? Also, ever seen a mini usb cable with 2 male USB connections? That's so that if the drive has issues using 1 port, you can plug another in and your devices will work. Even some flash drives at high capacity+speed may give trouble. There's def. the propensity for other usb devices to behave that way as well. Keyboards generally don't have that problem unless they're advanced (have lights, usb ports/hub on them), also mice don't generally have that issue either but anything else can.
What can work?
I'll say more than likely any powered external hard drive.
Some USB powered 2.5" external hard drives (my 320GB is seen and is usable, my 40GB is not as it is older and requires more power).
Most flash drives.
More than likely, any usb device engineered to worth within the constraints of using a single usb port (wireless controllers, remotes, mice, some keyboards, some gps units, etc.)
What probably won't work?
High capacity, high speed or OLD 2.5" usb powered external hard drive (750-1TB)
Advanced devices with a usb hub on them or lots of lights or moving parts, powered solely by the usb port
High capacity, high speed flash drives (though I'm sure this is vendor specific)
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This poster says their 320 GB hard drive is powered by it. So will the 320 GB western digital essentials be powered by it?
Hey people,
Massive regret if this has already been covered to the point of solving somewhere but i just can't seem to find a clear solution to my problem.
One of the main reasons i opted for the Archos 101IT was because of the usb storage possibilities and i am sadly let down by the lack of functionality. After searching over XDA forums, ArchosFans and a few other forums i have gathered alot of information about the usb ports and was even suggested a kernel that will let me extend the power supplied to the port (Currently only 100mAh i believe?)
My problem is im already on a different kernel and don't wish to trade my perm root and higher overclock just so i can use the ports as they should already work anyway. I have a 16gb and 8 gb sandisk flash drive that i would love to use but sadly it dosn't work. I also found a conversation (can't seem to find it again) where a list of successfull usb host adapter cables was created and so believing it i went ahead and bought one and it still dosn't work.
I have no doubt in my mind it's probably something i am doing wrong and if someone could slap me in the right direction i would be very greatful.
Again, sorry if my attempt at searching has failed but despite the countless conversations on this topic the only solutions that i have come across are completely changing my kernel and a cable that didn't work!
Why is it so difficult to use damn storage? that's what the usb is there for am i wrong?!
Thanks in advance =]
your post doesn't make that much sense - Archos 70 and below requires usb host cable - the 10 already has a full size usb host port and sufficient power to run flash drives
Yes it does, but as i said it only powers up to 100 mAh without the usb power kernel and i believe it's the mini usb that powers higher normally. It's my understanding that on the other posts i have read a host cable from the Mini usb port is supposed to give you the option of powering a flash drive as the mini usb offers a greater power supply.
I hope this makes sense now, im just reporting what i'v gatherd viewing other peoples issues and im confused to hell about any real/ideal solutions and also as to why the bloody thing can't just work as advertised.
Maybe if we can't get any meantime solutions people could start listing what's working for them? If anything at all? As i have seen reports of success with flash drives on both the 101 and 70 and also people saying they had it working at one time then it's never worked since. All threads seem to end in either "Sold my archos" Or "Sent back to archos and and they replaced it but now it's still not working" Also i can see archos have no apparent interest in the complaints that people have made.
Cheers
The 100mA limit is only on the A70. The A101's full-size host post puts out about 450mA, but alot of devices have an initial spike higher than that in the initial plug in, just to charge the capacitors and enter active mode. The problem with the A101 is that it shuts down current when it spikes like that, resetting the device, and requiring another start-up cycle. No solution I know of yet. I've managed to find low-power devices, you can also use an in-line power supply usb cable.
Hi msticninja, cheers for your reply.
Sorry for my complete lack of electronics but im understanding that the flash drive's im using require more then the 450 just to power up and then they would use less?
Does inline mean a mains powered usb? as i have a 2 tb mains powred HD that i havnt tested yet but if it worked it would be a temp solution for home, but i would love to be able to use my flash drives (or any flashd drives) when on the go. Could you suggest some of the flash drives that have worked for you under that power spike?
Thanks!
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Hi msticninja, cheers for your reply.
Sorry for my complete lack of electronics but im understanding that the flash drive's im using require more then the 450 just to power up and then they would use less?
Does inline mean a mains powered usb? as i have a 2 tb mains powred HD that i havnt tested yet but if it worked it would be a temp solution for home, but i would love to be able to use my flash drives (or any flashd drives) when on the go. Could you suggest some of the flash drives that have worked for you under that power spike?
Thanks!
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Yes, after the power up they use less, but that initial spike causes the Archos to shut down the USB port.
Definitely try the mains powered HD just to test. Also, sometimes a really quick unplug and replug can help.
My Kingston Datatraveler G2 (16GB) works fine, and I have some generic 1GB sticks that work as well. It's kind of hit or miss, to be honest. If you have a local electronics store, they may have some that aren't packaged, so you could test them in-store.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Kingston-16-G...660?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item19c64a7c54
Is that the right one? I sadly live about 20 miles away from any decent modern electronic store so id rather just buy one, if there's anything i have learned about flash drives as a producer, you can never have enough and also they will always sell on ebay for near the original price.
Thanks again =]
Also, Just plugged an old microsoft mouse into the large usb port, it lights up for a second then turns off with no real connection made.
Tried the same mouse in the smaller usb port with a host cable and nothing happens, could be the cable though.
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http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Kingston-16-G...660?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item19c64a7c54
Is that the right one? I sadly live about 20 miles away from any decent modern electronic store so id rather just buy one, if there's anything i have learned about flash drives as a producer, you can never have enough and also they will always sell on ebay for near the original price.
Thanks again =]
Also, Just plugged an old microsoft mouse into the large usb port, it lights up for a second then turns off with no real connection made.
Tried the same mouse in the smaller usb port with a host cable and nothing happens, could be the cable though.
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I don't think the mini-usb operates in host mode on the A101, only on the A70. As for the mouse, I have had better luck with wireless mice. I think the wired ones, older "red" optical ones in particular, use more power than I expected.
I think I told you the wrong USB drive though. I'm just plugging it in to double check and it's not working. Let me look around and figure out what I was using.
Haha yeh it was a wired oiptical one, i assume the wireless ones work better as most are powered by battery and im guessing the usb reciever only needs a small ammount of power. Is that the correct usb on the ebay link though? If so i will buy it asap as im desperate for a working solution.
Thanks =]
Looking through logcat though, I don't see a power error. I think I formatted this [email protected] with NTFS, and it can't mount it. Give me a couple of minutes to test this out.
Yep, that's the problem. I just turned on NTFS support in UrukConfig and it mounted just fine. That link on eBay should work fine for you as long as you don't use NTFS without urukdroid.
Ok cool, is it having trouble recognising it now? Both mine are Fat32 i believe in order to switch between my mac and windows computers, let me know if it still works when you can =]
It's fine with NTFS enabled in UrukConfig. Fat32 should work by default. BTW, you can enable NTFS support on Mac pretty easily. If you have files bigger than 4GB, it's essential.
Haha i havnt had to cross that issue yet as i mostly work with sound samples around 2mb or under, but i will definately be correcting that soon. So is this the correct model before i purchase it? im excited now that you have re confirmed it! =]
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Kingston-16-G...660?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item19c64a7c54
Thanks for the info!
Yup, that's the one. It's a tiny bit big, but it's very fast.
Haha mate, size isnt an issue at all, aslong as the damn thing works im going to be a happy bunny. All i have been missing since buying this thing is the extra storage. My sd card is currently running whole OS as it was needed for 'perm root' and it also has 259 swapfile so that's the 8gb gone. If this usb storage works it means i'll finally be able to free up the enitre internal storage i've been clogging up with music and movie for some more apps.
Wish me luck =p thanks again! =]
That's why I like to run Android from the Internal Storage, so I can remove the Sdcard without shutting the tablet down.
Good luck!!
As soon as a decent root comes along where i can overclock to 1.2ghz on internal storage id be more then happy to run on internal, sadly the only one i know is archangels and it only works when in a wifi area =/ unless im mistaken then id gladly eat my words! =]
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As soon as a decent root comes along where i can overclock to 1.2ghz on internal storage id be more then happy to run on internal, sadly the only one i know is archangels and it only works when in a wifi area =/ unless im mistaken then id gladly eat my words! =]
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Technically you could, but it's a bit of an involved process. You do need the SDE installed though. Actually, I wonder if anyone's tried ardatdat's kernel recently with Uruk. It hasn't worked for a while, but there's been multiple beta updates since the last time I tried it.
That would be very tempting, im on sde anyways. Just a question, whats the 1 watt speaker about in ur sig? Is that a hack?
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That would be very tempting, im on sde anyways. Just a question, whats the 1 watt speaker about in ur sig? Is that a hack?
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My speakers went out, because they're horribly overdriven, like most people's. I replaced them with 1 Watt Kobitone speakers that have a higher sensitivity, so it's louder at lower volume settings, and can go to a very high max volume without damaging the speakers. It's a simple replacement, but you have to open the case and solder in the new speakers.