Those with HARD RESET problem try this :) - MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development

Well, went to a PDA shop this morning and got a feedback that there are few cases of hard reset problems.
I know i have them.....
1 tip... don't charge you XDAII overnight.
I really dunno the theory behind it but just
Try it and feedback :wink:

I don't agree. Since I bought my xda2 in Nov till now, it's on charger every night w/o fail.

I also disagree, i recharge over night, from 9 PM to 6 AM. never reset

Take off wisbar or any other application that tends to hang, and keep your startup to a minimum to avoid hard resets.

i also charge overnight not had one hard reset yet

Err...i actually meant this topic for those with those are facing hard reset problem every now and then....
If you dun face them then cheers...but if you do face this problem.....no harm trying.
My XDAII hard reset itself twice in three days. Day 1 it was fully loaded with softwares, but it suddenly hard reset at abt 5:30pm, I didn't load any software after that (all factory default) and it did the same thing on the third day at abt the same time.
I know its hard to think abt anything relevent regarding this tip...well, those with hard resets problem should try it out. If it doesn't work out, well, what can i say and what you gotta loose? :lol:

Hi azbro, I'm with you on this one, if you are unlucky to experience frequent hard resets, it is worth checking out all options, to try and get to the root cause, there are so many different supposed reasons, battery, radio, software conflicts and so on, maybe these devices are not all the same, and the cause for hard reset could be different for each of us.

Hard Resets
I believe unwanted hard resets have a lot to do with the battery.
AFAIK softwares do also contribute sometimes but mainly due to overloading of memory causing leaks thus unrecoverable by operating systems.
Back to the battery.
Based on lots of owners complaints the Xda I/II battery has a nack of self-draining its own power. Suspect the contacts of the charger seems to cross when not inserted straight-down properly. Sometimes the battery doesn't get charged at all.
Check out this thread.
:arrow: TekGuru

Battery charging...
Hi!
Here is my piece of experience.
I had hard-reset problem when I was using standard Power plug & AC Adapter. But when I migrated to charge my device via USB & Cradle, the problem disappeared!
Maybe it happened because of our high voltage lines (220V). And one more, every time I was taking off my device from the charger I got static electrical shock
BTW, who is still experience this issue try my Restorator utility to save your time on restoring your soft & everything on each unexpected hard-reset! It's FREE!
Cheers

Can I have a link to your restorer utility?

Restorator Utility
natzakaria said:
Can I have a link to your restorer utility?
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Follow this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=9333
Looking forward to your feedback!

Battery Drain Induced Hard Reset?
Don't think I can simulate it again as I myself dunno what caused it.
Routine sync and charge via cradle today I happened to notice the battery power was depleting slowly.
Waited for awhile to monitor and the battery power indicator still was not turning. Today battery plugins all indicate charging but power keeps on draining.
Switched view to Start-Settings-System-Power in the Control Panel displays same result.
Removed unit from cradle and recharge now the power turned.
What was that all about?!
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Re: Battery Drain Induced Hard Reset?
[Krueger said:
Dr.Stein]Don't think I can simulate it again as I myself dunno what caused it.
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Here are my tips:
If your problem with charging via cradle occurred more than once, then there is a cradle or battery problem.
Try to disconnect your power cord from cradle and use only USB connection when charging
Also, try to play with your battery. Fully discharge it & leave it for at least 3 hours, then charge it via cradle auxiliary charging slot
Finally, borrow one battery from your friend and check your system stability with the new one

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Device does not work / do not charge. Any tips?

Hello XDA-Users....
I've got a little problem with my xda-device.
It's just doing not much. If i attach the device to the cradle. The system turned on and is beginning to start the ROM (I see the T-Mobile screen). I-ve got the hint that the installed ROM is 3.13. Radiostack and Protocol is empty. -> should be then GSM-Error in the bootloader.
After all this messages i've got an short "pling" (beep) of the device, and it all begins from starting....
I can not enter bootloader (nothing happens) and the battery won't be charged..... (There is no light)
I've checked already the fuse of the device. Looks good. What else do i have for possibilities to get the device working again? That the GSM-Part does not work is not important. I need the device just for testing and installing new software to include in the kitchen. So the phone function is not needed.
The battery semms to work, I still got some Volt if i check it with the multimeter.
Anyone have some tips for me?
Stefan
Have you looked at the connector on the base of the xda under magnification, it may be a bent pin on that or on the cradle that is preventing charging.
Connector looks good.
If i conect it, the device is getting power.
When i disconnect the cable / cradle the device stops doing anything and goes off.
If i do an hard reset with connected USB-cable, nothing happens.
If i try enter bootloader the display is flashing until i refuse the power button. Than endless "booting" starts again...
Stefan
It does sound like a low power situation, I think the gsm will not switch in unless there is sufficient power. If you need a battery I have one here that was removed from an xda a few months ago but should be fine, send me your address if you need it and I will give it to you.
That previous post was from me. Also have you checked that you dont have a stuck button.?
The buttons looks fine. tested them already. So that isn't the fault *damn*
If you can send me the battery, that would be very nice.
Maybe it's really the probelm. But i think, if the battery is in bad condition, there should be anway going a light on to show "going to load tthe battery".....
STefan
Stefan
If a hard reset doesn't solve the problem, then try this.
DO A FULL BACKUP FIRST!!!
Open the XDA, and remove the battery
(together with whatever circuit is attached)
Put the battery in the freezer for about 20 minutes.
Remove it, and reinstall it.
Now put it back in the cradle and it should charge.
Then to a restpore from the backup.
This just happened to me and it brought my XDA back to life.
A chemical process happens to rechargeable batteries that
prevents them from receiving a charge. Apparently freezing
the battery for a very short time (20 minutes) corrects this.
Try this at your own risk, but I did it to my only XDA and it is working fine
for about a week now. Otherwise I would have had to scrap my XDA.
Let me know how it works for you.
Joe
Joe_PDA said:
Stefan
If a hard reset doesn't solve the problem, then try this.
DO A FULL BACKUP FIRST!!!
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--> Not able. Device doesn´t start.....
Joe_PDA said:
Open the XDA, and remove the battery
(together with whatever circuit is attached)
Put the battery in the freezer for about 20 minutes.
Remove it, and reinstall it.
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--> done.....
Joe_PDA said:
Now put it back in the cradle and it should charge.
Then to a restpore from the backup.
This just happened to me and it brought my XDA back to life.
A chemical process happens to rechargeable batteries that
prevents them from receiving a charge. Apparently freezing
the battery for a very short time (20 minutes) corrects this.
Try this at your own risk, but I did it to my only XDA and it is working fine
for about a week now. Otherwise I would have had to scrap my XDA.
Let me know how it works for you.
Joe
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Thx for the tip. Tried it, but didn´t work for me....
Stefan
Stefan
Sorry to hear it didn't work.
Its been over a week and mine seems to be holding up.
I'd have to guess you battery is completely dead.
i have the same problem
you seem to be having the same problem as me m8 do you have no radio
or information on the radio task bar.
my unit keeps on re-starting the same as yours and i cant access setup even after hard reset. i attempt to charge the unit and the pwr light comes on briefly then goes out after approx 10 secs the unit then starts itself up and as mentioned before turns itself on and off randomly.
(i have no software for this unit just the unit and charger no memory card)
i am new to pda's do i need any softwares if i get it working?
any feedback appreciated

Prophet goes down

Hi All,
My Prophet just died...
I made a RadioROM upgrade and after a reboot I did an IPL upgrade. I did a soft reset and now it doesn't want to turn on. I'm really confused what did I make wrong and how can I redo it.
I'm looking forward to a helpful info.
Thanks
Does your screen stay black or does it display anything? Can you enter bootloader? And why would you want to upgrade your IPL???
My screen is dark black, I can not even turn it on. I doesn't matter what sort of switch I press on the dev. So I can't see the bootloader and I think it's a serious problem...
After the IPL upgrade the reboot was succesful and on the startup screen it says IPL 2.20.0001 and worked for a while.
I've changed my local settings, which reqiures a soft reset, so I did it. After this, no aswer...
I'm very dissapointed because of the pda and your help dear all...
Is your battery dead? Try it with your charger.
No, my battery was fully charged before I ran into this major problem...
I had a similar issues which was misteriously resolved after a few plug ins and battery removals. I also let the battery completely drain and removed it from phone for a few hours. It worked when connected to wall charger but not with battery. It seemed like interior phone battery was dead. One day I connected it to the wall charger and the battery status when from zero to 98% and it stayed there. Really weird stuff. I ordered another battery and so far so good. One of the batteries did die and i discarded it, but I still use the other old battery plus I have a new spair.
Yamilrx, thanks the info...
I'll try it, but I've lost my faith in this device. It's in clinical dead state for 2 days from now, and it looks like doesn't want to wake up or alive.
This is a very misteroius issue.
I don't understand it, if I upgraded wrongly somebody tell me, why was the device started after? And if it was a wrong update, how can I turn it on and make calls, etc. and after a soft reset it DOESN'T reply for anything?!
I bought it almost 2 years ago, so I assume the battery could cause similar problem. But it was almost fully charged. The Star Wars was less incredible then this thing...
Except this, I'll accept your advice. I'm going to try it.
try the following, as your device is dead and curently noy useable.
-remove the battery for a day and just leave it there
- put in the battery and connect the charger
- hold your camera button while turning the device on
do you get into the 3 colored screen? if so, the device can now be downgraded etc.
particular reason why you have not tried a HARD reset?
Dhirmadi said:
try the following, as your device is dead and curently noy useable.
-remove the battery for a day and just leave it there
- put in the battery and connect the charger
- hold your camera button while turning the device on
do you get into the 3 colored screen? if so, the device can now be downgraded etc.
particular reason why you have not tried a HARD reset?
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Thanks, I'll try it first after go to a shop and buy a battery.
Anyway, when I mentioned I've tried all the combinations of the buttons, I meant i did a hard reset too. But my Spleeping Beauty is still doing the same...
The problem hasn't been solved by the solutions you have mentioned before, so I've called the HTC technical support, they were very friendly - they must be because I'll pay for it - and 2 days from now they will tell me how much does it costs or it is repairable or not...
Thanks for your help.
mazeee said:
Thanks, I'll try it first after go to a shop and buy a battery.
Anyway, when I mentioned I've tried all the combinations of the buttons, I meant i did a hard reset too. But my Spleeping Beauty is still doing the same...
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I did that with mine to see if it would reset device once the internal battery is totally discharged. Like I said earlier, mine came back to live. Make sure you install the WM 5 rom used for downgrading and don't try any of the WM 6 roms until the device is fully functional with wm5. The batteries are $8 on ebay but they take 1 week to get here from Hong Kong.
If winter comes,can sping be far away?
Hi All,
The service technician examined my Prophet and he said, I have to change a mainboard. Have you ever run into this kind of problem? If I want a repair, it'd cost me 300 Euro!!
Luckily I still have a warranty, so I hope I don't have to pay for the service.
Take care your Prophet...

My phone doest power on or charge Nothing!

I was flashing a new rom. And after it said 100% on the phone it turned black and never lit up again. I waited i didnt pull out the usb. 15 min later i checked it again still black. i pulled the usb out. hit the power button and nothing happend. i did a hard reset and still the phone wount power on. The phone's charging led light wount even come on when i plug it up. So i assume i have bricked me phone ?
I have HSPL3
miri19v
froyostone 3.1v
is there any way to bring it back to life or do i toss it in the trash?
thanks for the help
i have also tried to go into boot loader and NIL!
from your use of the word 'trash' can i assume you have a tmous hd2? if so, what did you flash? was it a non tmous stock rom (meaning a bad radio)?
(oh, first job tho, check for bent battery pins)
the pins are fine. yeah i was actually flashing a stock tmou rom.
got the full filename for the rom you downloaded please? (just checking you havent downloaded a t mobile rom that isnt tmous)
the reason im pushing that line of enquiry is that the symptoms you describe are consistent with either
wrong radio (from the wrong stock rom)
bent battery pin
over discharged battery
to test the over discharged battery you can take it out, plug usb in with wall charger, then put battery in. this lets it charge without trying to turn on the phone. the light may not come one for some time, so leave it a good hour or two.
Hey Sam,
I'm having this issue too. I am relatively positive it's from an over-discharged battery. The phone conked out a few nights ago, and later when trying to charge it I got nothing - until yanking the battery for a bit, plugging in the charger, then popping in the battery. Now, every time the battery drains I have to do this.
Is the battery "damaged" now, or do you have any suggestions to fix the prob? I see this posted a bit but no one has any solutions that I've found.
Thanks!
Ryan
well i know the principals of these batteries, but not really the mechanics, so yes id guess the battery is defective, (but it could be the phones internal battery control circuits too, again just guessing) but no i dont know if there is a cure, other than try another battery, and if it cures it, ok, but if not then it would be a warranty issue.
are you using android? cos from what ive read it discharges quickly under android or something? (never used it so cant tell)

[Q] Weird battery and screen issues

Hey guys and gals
this is my first post here. although a lot here is about rooted devices with custom ROMs, I hope you can help me out - you sure have a lot of expertise here compared to many other forums.
For the past two days I've been running into some of the weirdest problems with my Galaxy S2. Before i go into detail, here is the summary:
1. Screen time-out doesn't work while device is not plugged to a charger or computer
2. Notification shows 100% charge for a very long time (hours after heavy usage)
3. Not sure if charging actually works
4. Booting up seems to fail when not connected to a charger
it started yesterday when I noticed the phone light up and say it was charging. The problem is it wasn't - it was in my pocket.
Then I noticed that the screen didn't time out. I changed the setting, nothing - it remained on. I could push the power to make the screen turn off and on again but it wouldn't time out itself.
The charging info went away... at some point. I left it to charge over night and in the morning it indeed showed 100% in the notification bar. The problem is it remained 100% for A LONG time. In the settings menu under the battery it says it has been running on batter for 0 secs and showed 100% charge. For hours... There were no info about any apps or function using the battery. that part was clear.
Then i discovered that the screen time out problem goes away while connecting the charger or via USB to a PC. Then it times out. As soon as i unplug the charger it never times out....
I'm actually not sure if the charging works. Indeed it shows charging but sometimes it magically reaches 100% rather quickly.
Because I suspected a battery fault I used another battery. let it drain completely and then tried to recharge. Can't - when booting it shows a battery icon with question mark and then goes to show that the battery is 100% charged. Then the question mark and then 100% again. Seems to be in some sort of loop.
I've done the factory reset, I had a new firmware installed via Odin just in case. The problem still remains.
Booting the device seems to be an issue and only work with charger or USB cable attached. Ot it will be in that "what battery" and "100% charge" cycle...
I've searched high and low today but couldn't find anyone with the same problem.
Have any of you an idea? Really down't want to get a new phone! Seems to be a very bad month going on because a few weeks ago I had really serious issues with my brand new hybrid camera which i have to buy ... again! sold it for parts for pocket money....
Any help would be really appreciated! thanks!
That's really strange....try getting out the battery,charge it to max va an external charger,or borrow a friend's Galaxy S2.Leave the phone withou battery for an hour.Then when you put it in,go to recovery,and "wipe battery stats"(Root it if it's not).See if that works.
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That's really strange....try getting out the battery,charge it to max va an external charger,or borrow a friend's Galaxy S2.Leave the phone withou battery for an hour.Then when you put it in,go to recovery,and "wipe battery stats"(Root it if it's not).See if that works.
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thanks for your thoughts. i will try to root it wipe battery stats. i've never rooted before so i hope i find the single best tutorial to do that
thanks again!
kuldark said:
thanks for your thoughts. i will try to root it wipe battery stats. i've never rooted before so i hope i find the single best tutorial to do that
thanks again!
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How long have you had the phone? The usb flex cable has issues over time. A symptom of this is the charging when not connected to the charger.
If it is this issue the part is cheap (around 5$ I believe).

recharge issue

While my tablet S3 battery was at 30%, I plugged it to its recharger. But I didn't noticed it wasn't recharging.
At 15% of battery the usual message notified to put it in charge.
So I discovered to have no way to recharge it. Checked the the plug, changed charger, wires, but no way to recharge it.
Tried also a soft reset entering the safe mode, but no charge started.
So it seems hard reset is my last chance.
Any suggestion?
Thanks in advance.
Update, neither hard reset fixed it.
Same thing happened to me today.
Its not registering any USB-C connections, including charging. However it does charge very slowly. If the tab is on its just enough to keep it alive. If I turn it off and charge it does like 5% per hour and the charging icon and vibration goes on every 10-15 seconds.
Tried to clean the USB port with a toothpick and got a little bit of yellow stuff out, looked like rust or glue. Tried different chargers and cables, all behave the same.
Ive been very careful with it and I cant imagine what might have caused this.
Yesterday the simcard was disconnecting, maybe related maybe not. Been working fine before that.

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