Hi,
I see on MobilePlanet they have 2 types of cradles available for the 8525:
- http://www.mobileplanet.com/p.aspx?i=139718
- http://www.mobileplanet.com/p.aspx?i=143228
Which one is better?
What are any differences.
Thanks,
Alan.
One clearly has an extra battery slot.
aw000002 said:
Hi,
I see on MobilePlanet they have 2 types of cradles available for the 8525:
- http://www.mobileplanet.com/p.aspx?i=139718
- http://www.mobileplanet.com/p.aspx?i=143228
Which one is better?
What are any differences.
Thanks,
Alan.
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I don't know anything about the second one, but I have the first one right in front of me. Some information:
- detachable USB cable, which means it can't charge the device if not connected to a PC
- does not come with a power supply. It seems the design allowed for a socket for an external power supply, but the hole is blocked with some plastic part. I would think there's probably a "de luxe" version with an external power supply.
- good build quality and finish
- extremely poor fit for the TyTN's shape. Almost looks like it was intended for another device. There is no "guidance" for the TyTN when you put it in, so it's quite difficult to get the USB connector into the socket. And when it's in, the USB connector carries most of the TyTN's weight, as the bottom of the TyTN does not make contact with the cradle. I fear this will wear out the TyTN's USB connector rather quickly...
Personally, I would not buy it again.
Cheers
Daniel
it will be good to see a landscape crade with audio out (3.5mm). Mr Gadget in australia has a nice jasjam cradle in landscape and it comes with a dedicated stylus in the crade - but no audio out.
Beware of the cradle from BoxWave, I just got one.
It comes with a A/C adapter to mini USB for charging and a std USB for sync. You can use one or the other. I got the version that has the spare battery charge bay. I also purchased the Std Battery replacement for the 8525 from them as well.
The Cradle has a Red/Green Charge light and a Blue Power LED. My Blue LED was blindingly bright for a few minutes, then it began to flicker like a candle. now it's pretty much out. The charge lite seemed OK, it charged the Boxwave battery and went from steady red to green.
The boxwave battery was thicker than stock and caused the rear cover to bulge a little. I'm not happy and am returning it.
The Stock battery, if inserted into the cradle charge bay, causes the charge light to blink a fast red, Fail? Even though the battery is charged and new. So I'm returning the cradle as well. Too Bad....
Got the boxwave one myself and must agree don't bother.
I sent them an e-mail asking if it can AC charge and SYNC at the same time.
THey assured me it could.
It can't.
I also can't seem to get that across to their people... they still assure me it can and mine must be defective.
The binking lights are majorly anyoing, way to bright. And it is a pain to get it to fit right.
Just got one of the Expansys models above, the one with the 2nd battery charge bay. It fits the 8525 perfectly and seems very well made. It has seperate mini-usb connectors on the back for A/C adapter and Sync.
It also has seperate A/C and USB indicator Leds on the left side and a BiColor LED on the right for the extra battery bay. I tried a charger on it and it charges both battery and phone, A/C Led is On, the USB is Off. I tried a USB PC sync cable and it syncs and charges both batteries, the USB Led is On and the A/C Led is Off. I plugged both USB and A/C into the base, and it appears to still work normally, the A/C and USB Leds are both ON.
So it looks like it will work as a sync cradle on the PC and still charge batteries with the PC Off.
It came with no instructions or cables/adapters so I don't know if plugging both A/C and Sync in is completely OK.
It is a nice little base but for $42 I would have liked some accys and instructions.
Just wanted to double check.
You are saying both a USB and AC connect at the same time on the Expansys model (ones in first post?)
Wanted to make sure before I wasted more money.
Yes, the version that has the 2nd battery bay is what I have;
http://www.mobileplanet.com/p.aspx?i=143228
This model has two rear mini-usb connectors, and I plugged my Cingular 8525 charger into the cradle's mini-usb port labeled as charge.
I also plugged my PC's USB sync cable into the cradle's sync-mini USB port labeled sync.
The cradle seems OK with this. There were no instructions or warning labels telling me "only one at a time", and it's working.
Also I wanted to mention that the charge bay pins are all gold versus the BoxWave which were plain silver. Much nicer quality.
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I had a BIG problem with a third party battery charger (RIMAX).
It is a Car charger and a wall mount charger, with USB plug and cable, but IT WORKS ONLY WHEN THE WIZARD IS ON! If the battery goes down for some reason and the phone couldn't turn on, you're lost! :evil:
So, the lesson learned is: before travelling without your original charger check if the one you have could charge the wizard also when is OFF and not only in stand-by mode!
I also have a strange issue with a third party car charger - after plugging in the car charger I have to switch the universal off then on again to make it charge...very wierd!
I've also got one of those, though would prefere one with a bit of cable in the middle to reduce stress on the connector.
Have you checked the amp output on the chargers. They're probably putting out 0.5 amps (USB spec). If you look at the wall charger that came with the wizard, it puts out 1.0 amps. That's why when your battery is completely dead, the 0.5 amp charger can't put enough juice into it to get the battery up to a high enough level.
Actually, according to the USB spec, a device is not supposed to consume more than 100mA without being recognized by the USB host. That is, the USB host is only going to give your phone 100mA until the phone says, "hey, i'd like 500mA, please!"
Sometimes manufacturers may shortcut this and just allow the port 500mA at all times, but a standards-conforming one won't.
This MAY be part of the reason why we have problems charging a completely dead Wizard -- it's only going to get 100mA until the device has enough juice to wake up and request more.
This MAY be part of the reason why we have problems charging a completely dead Wizard -- it's only going to get 100mA until the device has enough juice to wake up and request more.
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Ah! - That's the problem I had yesterday - had left my Vario on with TomTom draining away the battery and forgotten about it on Saturday night, had just spent the day moving house and everything was in chaos and had no idea where the charger was.
So when I realised it was dead on Sunday whilst out in the car, I plugged it into the car charger that came with my GPS unit, which I have used to charge the phone many times before - but it would not charge, no light, nothing!
When I got home all I could find was the mains charger for the GPS and a USB cable - tried both and none would put any charge into the phone.
By this stage I was shi**ing myself that the phone, which I got mainly for GPS for travelling around Germany in June, was DEAD - with 3 weeks to go!
of course later in the day, once I had eventually found the proper charger, it took a slight pause after being plugged in and then the little orange light of joy came on and brought me salvation!!!!!
I suspected it might have been something like the previous poster said but not being very technical I really didn't know!!
Thanks.
I've had the same frustrating experience. When the battery is very low or dead the only charger that will work is the original adapter, not the car charger or cradle or pass thru my laptop. As I result I have to carry the original adapter whenever I travel and I often wake up with a dead Wizard if I dont realize how low the battery is when I park it in the cradle.
Very frustrating. I dont understand why Boxwave doesnt use a beefier adapter connected to the cradle.
I've had the same frustrating experience. When the battery is very low or dead the only charger that will work is the original adapter, not the car charger or cradle or pass thru my laptop. As I result I have to carry the original adapter whenever I travel and I often wake up with a dead Wizard if I dont realize how low the battery is when I park it in the cradle.
Very frustrating. I dont understand why Boxwave doesnt use a beefier adapter connected to the cradle.
I've had the same frustrating experience. When the battery is very low or dead the only charger that will work is the original adapter, not the car charger or cradle or pass thru my laptop. As I result I have to carry the original adapter whenever I travel and I often wake up with a dead Wizard if I dont realize how low the battery is when I park it in the cradle.
Very frustrating. I dont understand why Boxwave doesnt use a beefier adapter connected to the cradle.
Are there any usb-dockingstations for the tytn available? Where in Europe? How much?
mamusp said:
Are there any usb-dockingstations for the tytn available? Where in Europe? How much?
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Have a look at
www.expansys.at
But their shipping policy is a bit weird.
here you go:
http://shop.brando.com.hk/dopodcht9000usbcradle.php
TyTN usb docking cradle on eBay now + cases too
http://cgi.ebay.com/HTC-TyTn-Metal-...2689586QQihZ005QQcategoryZ75430QQcmdZViewItem
[email protected]
This guy has a cradle at 11 euros in hong kong he also sells trough ebay.
With tranportation I got my for about 22 euros.
Regards,
Be advised that the cradles offered by eXpansys, Brando, and others lack both external AC power and a spare battery charging slot.
I bought one from eXpansys based on bad information, and I'm pretty much stuck with it (it's not worth paying the shipping to send it back for what I would receive as a refund).
The lack of external AC means that if you shut off your computer, you also shut off charging.
The lack of extra battery slot, well, that's just a huge PITA!
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Be advised that the cradles offered by eXpansys, Brando, and others lack both external AC power and a spare battery charging slot.
I bought one from eXpansys based on bad information, and I'm pretty much stuck with it (it's not worth paying the shipping to send it back for what I would receive as a refund).
The lack of external AC means that if you shut off your computer, you also shut off charging.
The lack of extra battery slot, well, that's just a huge PITA!
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It might be worth getting a power adaptor with a usb output. I received one with my fortuna clip-on gps. Along with my usb car adaptor, this means I just need a usb mini cable to use all power options, and also to sync the phone.
ie keep the adaptors where you need them, and just carry the usb mini cable around. It turns out this is a much tidier charging solution than I ever managed for my old p900.
Also, Be adviced that USB charging is way SLOWER than AC Adaptor Charging!
If you have doubts, record the time it takes to fully charge a battery or simply check the differences between the heat it makes when u connect to a USB charger and AC charging(which is HOT)
I got a dock from ebay - like the expansys ones (etc) it only charges through the USB on the computer. However, this suits me as most of my day is in front of the machine and even when off (as I use a docking station) the USB is still powered and hence charges the TyTN.
Wrote a small review here: http://rakh1.homeip.net
Rich
Rich, is it possible to plug in the Tytn charger cable into the back of the cradle and use it as a stand-alone charging station ?
I have the brando one, and I can use it via USB charging or by ac power.
Its uses the same connector in the back
Finally received mine today (the Brando/eBay one).
For some reasons, it syncs much slower than just using the USB cable??? :?
And the bright blue LED is constantly on... which is a bit annoying.
tytn cradle I had it.
http://cgi.ebay.com/HTC-TyTn-Metal-...ctor_W0QQitemZ150032689586QQihZ005QQcategoryZ 75430QQcmdZViewItem
thanks
Hi,
I am having trouble with my StarTrek. It is pretty much unused, bought it straight when it came out but only used it for 1-2 months because I then got a phone from work. I reciently tried to start using it again just because I was a bit bored. But the phone refused to start, I originally thought it was the battery so I ordered a new one and got it. Phone started up straight away when I put it in as it came precharged at 40%. But the phone refuses to charge when I plug the USB cable in. I get no LED light or indicator in WM5 that it is charging.
So I checked the USB cable with a multi meter and there is defiently 5v being supplied. I opened up the phone and measured the board when the charged was plugged in, I found both 5v points and ~3.7-4v points on the board. The positive point of the 4 connectors which connects to the battery outputs 1v when the battery is plugged in (~0.3v when no battery is plugged in) so it would appear that the battery is charging right? Or should I be seeing 3.7v here?
charging issue
these phones are notorious for the micro usb connector to come loose from the main board, once it does there is nothing you can do with it.
My advice is if you plan on keeping the phone by a dual charger off of eBay for about 20 bucks, it has a built in battery charger, then you can simply swap out your batteries as you should now have 2 good batteries cause my guess is that your original battery is still good.
other possibility is to buy a trashed 3125 (bad lcd, etc) off of eBay and hope that you get one with a good charging port and board, then swap out the board, fairly easy swap.
I ended up buying one of the £70 new pink qtek 8500 from expansys and then I took off the black cover from my old one and swapped with the pink one. I now have a phone to play with wm6.1
So, bought the following cradle from DayDeal's ebay store:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=350284094212
The product description says the following:
* Custom-fitted Docking Cradle
* USB connection/charging cable
* AC power adapter
* Stylus
Now the issue is with the second line. What is NOT explained here is that the unit when plugged IN to a wall jack AND the sync charge cable is plugged in to your computer, the sync/charge cable gets no more power from the wall jack and wants to get it from ONLY the sync/charge USB cable. All of this leads to the unit being grossly undercharged and therefore, complains that there is not enough charge coming from the power source and that you need to shut down and therefore the whole idea of a wall charger is useless after this.
WHY would a sync/charge USB cable which by the way is physically attached to the unit and cannot be removed, while the wall jack plugs into a proprietary mini-USB cable. I know it's proprietary because I tried first to use the wall charging cable that came with my TP2 from Sprint.
So, I'd recommend not buying this cradle unless you want to do what I'm doing now, have a USB sync/charge cable dangling from the unit and NOT plugged into the computer, but instead only plug in the wall charger and sync and data transfer via USB which is what I was doing before except now, I have a cradle to do it in.
Not a good trade-off to me. I bought this specifically to be able to sync/charge FROM the cradle.
One last thing, don't think about using the cradle if you have a skin or a hard case on the phone. The connector is so flush with the back of the charging stand that if you try to put anything BUT the phone into the stand it can't connect.
EDIT: December 5, 2009:
Been in touch with the vendor. They are going to swap out this unit for another one. They say that the unit doesn't do this at their site and that this one may be defective. I'll gladly swap this one out for one that works as unstated or at least expected. I'll post when I've gotten the new unit if this is actually a defective first unit or if this is the actual way these units work. And, I'll also try this on multiple machines so that I know it's not just my home desktop.
Another bad cradle from ebay DELUXE CRADLE W/2nd Battery Slot FOR HTC TOUCH PRO 2
When AC plugged in and USB to PC the PC USB sucks the power so the phone charges slow or not at all. Also doenst seem safe for the USB to send the power back out to the PC from the cheapo AC plug in this cradle. When used as a standalone charger AC only it sometimes fails to charge, about a 50-50 success rate. Stay away from it.
That's good info. It is the exact cradle I bought, but i bought it just for charging. I have not used it for connecting to the PC yet, but i needed a cradle that had a slot for a battery in it too.
wpbear said:
Another bad cradle from ebay DELUXE CRADLE W/2nd Battery Slot FOR HTC TOUCH PRO 2
When AC plugged in and USB to PC the PC USB sucks the power so the phone charges slow or not at all. Also doenst seem safe for the USB to send the power back out to the PC from the cheapo AC plug in this cradle. When used as a standalone charger AC only it sometimes fails to charge, about a 50-50 success rate. Stay away from it.
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That the one I have as well. I also have not use it for my computer.. All I really wanted was a cradle for my nightstand that had an additional battery charging slot as I also bought some of those $10 200mah batteries to try (have not received them yet)
dahauss said:
That the one I have as well. I also have not use it for my computer.. All I really wanted was a cradle for my nightstand that had an additional battery charging slot as I also bought some of those $10 200mah batteries to try (have not received them yet)
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200mA or 2000mA? Got a link please? Sorry for off topic.
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200mA or 2000mA? Got a link please? Sorry for off topic.
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=390130739877
2000mah
I purchased this cradle and my complaint has to do with the USB cable that is attached to cradle. I need a long line to reach back of my PC. This attached one does not reach unless I want to view the phone from 5' away! Very disappointed. I've only had it a few days but didn't know this, sanjsrik:
What is NOT explained here is that the unit when plugged IN to a wall jack AND the sync charge cable is plugged in to your computer, the sync/charge cable gets no more power from the wall jack and wants to get it from ONLY the sync/charge USB cable."
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It does seem slow to charge but I'll run a couple of tests to confirm.
Hi I want to ask for help. I bought my htc touch pro 2 T 7373 from ebey but only phone with no charger.I bought HTC Power Supply model: TC P300 output: 5V-1A LPS Pin 1+ , Pin 4- .When I put it to charge , phone indicates to charge ,but battery does not charge.Battery is new and I dont think the problem is it.I want to ask you if this charger is compatible with HTC TOUCH PRO 2 T7373.
russslannn said:
Hi I want to ask for help. I bought my htc touch pro 2 T 7373 from ebey but only phone with no charger.I bought HTC Power Supply model: TC P300 output: 5V-1A LPS Pin 1+ , Pin 4- .When I put it to charge , phone indicates to charge ,but battery does not charge.Battery is new and I dont think the problem is it.I want to ask you if this charger is compatible with HTC TOUCH PRO 2 T7373.
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Just use a miniUSB cable and plug it into your computer. Any USB wall charger should work. I've used iPhone USB chragers with a miniUSB cable, Nikon camera chargers, as well as a Motorola one. You just need to plug it into any USB port either on a wall or on your computer. Leave the device off while it charges overnight.
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I use both ways but no result , phone indicates to charged but battery not charging.Charger is original and consists of two parts: the charger and mini usb cable .When i run it sometimes on the displays show this message : The charging current is not enough for device power consumption.Please shut down unused applications , or switch to AC adapter. And I do not use any applications. I tried to load phone in the off position , indicates that the charger is ON but the battery is not charging .Please help if someone has the same problem
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I use both ways but no result , phone indicates to charged but battery not charging.Charger is original and consists of two parts: the charger and mini usb cable .When i run it sometimes on the displays show this message : The charging current is not enough for device power consumption.Please shut down unused applications , or switch to AC adapter. And I do not use any applications. I tried to load phone in the off position , indicates that the charger is ON but the battery is not charging .Please help if someone has the same problem
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Try it with a different miniUSB cable. If you don't have one handy, miniUSB cables go for pennies on Amazon or eBay. You can find them in retail stores for about 10 dollars or so as well. If the cable isn't the problem, then it is either a problem with the charge port on the device, or the battery. It's far cheaper to trouble shoot the cable, so let's just start with that.
Sound like the charger is insufficient power, even though it says 1A. Try charging from a computer USB port and see if it charges. HTC don't list TP2 as suitable for this charger.
I am also facing same problem. LED shows charging but phone does not charge. And when I insert charger "USB TO PC" page shows up, Like I have connected the phone to PC.
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I just had an issue charging which turned out to be an easy fix.
The led would come on and the icon would show charging but it wasn't increasing the battery %. Then I would get a message about the power not being enough and to plug it into a charger. I tried several chargers and was getting the same thing happening. I blew a few puffs into the charging port which looked clean and it was still happening. I wiggled the cable/plug in the port and occassionally the charging light would go on and off. The charging led even started to go on and off with the phone just sitting still on my table. I feared that my charging port had gone bad so I ordered 2 spare batteries and battery charger from ebay for $10 (works well and battery life good).
While waiting for the ebay purchase to arrive I did some reading up and saw that pins could be bent etc. In my fustration I used a pair of tweezers to gently scrape the charging port pins/contacts (in a straight direction). Then I used an old toothbrush and firmly brushed out the usb port - a whole bunch of lint and stuff come out of the port even though it had previously looked clean.
I plugged in my charger and bingo! My charging issue was gone.
ukexport said:
I just had an issue charging which turned out to be an easy fix.
The led would come on and the icon would show charging but it wasn't increasing the battery %. Then I would get a message about the power not being enough and to plug it into a charger. I tried several chargers and was getting the same thing happening. I blew a few puffs into the charging port which looked clean and it was still happening. I wiggled the cable/plug in the port and occassionally the charging light would go on and off. The charging led even started to go on and off with the phone just sitting still on my table. I feared that my charging port had gone bad so I ordered 2 spare batteries and battery charger from ebay for $10 (works well and battery life good).
While waiting for the ebay purchase to arrive I did some reading up and saw that pins could be bent etc. In my fustration I used a pair of tweezers to gently scrape the charging port pins/contacts (in a straight direction). Then I used an old toothbrush and firmly brushed out the usb port - a whole bunch of lint and stuff come out of the port even though it had previously looked clean.
I plugged in my charger and bingo! My charging issue was gone.
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That was the biggest problem with MiniUSB was the width and height of those ports. It's a haven for stray dust and dirt. They need to be brushed out every so often, especially when you just drop it in you pocket.
hi buy and it schould work
buy a new charging cable
ukexport said:
I just had an issue charging which turned out to be an easy fix.
The led would come on and the icon would show charging but it wasn't increasing the battery %. Then I would get a message about the power not being enough and to plug it into a charger. I tried several chargers and was getting the same thing happening. I blew a few puffs into the charging port which looked clean and it was still happening. I wiggled the cable/plug in the port and occassionally the charging light would go on and off. The charging led even started to go on and off with the phone just sitting still on my table. I feared that my charging port had gone bad so I ordered 2 spare batteries and battery charger from ebay for $10 (works well and battery life good).
While waiting for the ebay purchase to arrive I did some reading up and saw that pins could be bent etc. In my fustration I used a pair of tweezers to gently scrape the charging port pins/contacts (in a straight direction). Then I used an old toothbrush and firmly brushed out the usb port - a whole bunch of lint and stuff come out of the port even though it had previously looked clean.
I plugged in my charger and bingo! My charging issue was gone.
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I was facing the same charging problem and was looking for a solution. And i found this forum and read it and did the same thing and my problem is fix.. I can charge my mobile now. Thanks a lot for the great help.
Sarchy Minimum
All of these dumb charges, ie bricks in the wall, use the unused USB pins to communicate how much power they can provide. There are some resistors they put on the D-/D+ to say this is a 700ma charger or whatever. Trouble is that there are limited standards on these resistors so it's more than possible that a phone will charge but not enter high current charging when attached to a new brick in the wall. The cables however are more universal.