Don't buy the cradle for the Sprint Touch Pro 2, stupid design - Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories

So, bought the following cradle from DayDeal's ebay store:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=350284094212
The product description says the following:
* Custom-fitted Docking Cradle
* USB connection/charging cable
* AC power adapter
* Stylus
Now the issue is with the second line. What is NOT explained here is that the unit when plugged IN to a wall jack AND the sync charge cable is plugged in to your computer, the sync/charge cable gets no more power from the wall jack and wants to get it from ONLY the sync/charge USB cable. All of this leads to the unit being grossly undercharged and therefore, complains that there is not enough charge coming from the power source and that you need to shut down and therefore the whole idea of a wall charger is useless after this.
WHY would a sync/charge USB cable which by the way is physically attached to the unit and cannot be removed, while the wall jack plugs into a proprietary mini-USB cable. I know it's proprietary because I tried first to use the wall charging cable that came with my TP2 from Sprint.
So, I'd recommend not buying this cradle unless you want to do what I'm doing now, have a USB sync/charge cable dangling from the unit and NOT plugged into the computer, but instead only plug in the wall charger and sync and data transfer via USB which is what I was doing before except now, I have a cradle to do it in.
Not a good trade-off to me. I bought this specifically to be able to sync/charge FROM the cradle.
One last thing, don't think about using the cradle if you have a skin or a hard case on the phone. The connector is so flush with the back of the charging stand that if you try to put anything BUT the phone into the stand it can't connect.
EDIT: December 5, 2009:
Been in touch with the vendor. They are going to swap out this unit for another one. They say that the unit doesn't do this at their site and that this one may be defective. I'll gladly swap this one out for one that works as unstated or at least expected. I'll post when I've gotten the new unit if this is actually a defective first unit or if this is the actual way these units work. And, I'll also try this on multiple machines so that I know it's not just my home desktop.

Another bad cradle from ebay DELUXE CRADLE W/2nd Battery Slot FOR HTC TOUCH PRO 2
When AC plugged in and USB to PC the PC USB sucks the power so the phone charges slow or not at all. Also doenst seem safe for the USB to send the power back out to the PC from the cheapo AC plug in this cradle. When used as a standalone charger AC only it sometimes fails to charge, about a 50-50 success rate. Stay away from it.

That's good info. It is the exact cradle I bought, but i bought it just for charging. I have not used it for connecting to the PC yet, but i needed a cradle that had a slot for a battery in it too.

wpbear said:
Another bad cradle from ebay DELUXE CRADLE W/2nd Battery Slot FOR HTC TOUCH PRO 2
When AC plugged in and USB to PC the PC USB sucks the power so the phone charges slow or not at all. Also doenst seem safe for the USB to send the power back out to the PC from the cheapo AC plug in this cradle. When used as a standalone charger AC only it sometimes fails to charge, about a 50-50 success rate. Stay away from it.
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That the one I have as well. I also have not use it for my computer.. All I really wanted was a cradle for my nightstand that had an additional battery charging slot as I also bought some of those $10 200mah batteries to try (have not received them yet)

dahauss said:
That the one I have as well. I also have not use it for my computer.. All I really wanted was a cradle for my nightstand that had an additional battery charging slot as I also bought some of those $10 200mah batteries to try (have not received them yet)
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200mA or 2000mA? Got a link please? Sorry for off topic.

jonrobertd said:
200mA or 2000mA? Got a link please? Sorry for off topic.
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=390130739877
2000mah

I purchased this cradle and my complaint has to do with the USB cable that is attached to cradle. I need a long line to reach back of my PC. This attached one does not reach unless I want to view the phone from 5' away! Very disappointed. I've only had it a few days but didn't know this, sanjsrik:
What is NOT explained here is that the unit when plugged IN to a wall jack AND the sync charge cable is plugged in to your computer, the sync/charge cable gets no more power from the wall jack and wants to get it from ONLY the sync/charge USB cable."
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It does seem slow to charge but I'll run a couple of tests to confirm.

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Wall-outlet charger

Hey all, the Sprint Hero comes with a charger that uses the usb cable to plug in to the phone. My problem is two-fold:
First, I like having a usb cord on me to charge where ever I go, and I don't like/am bad at remembering to take the usb cord out of the wall unit and pack with me in the morning.
Second, The usb cord isn't very long for a device that's plugged into an outlet near the ground (read: nearly every outlet in existence) and the usb cable barely reaches my desk for the phone to rest on.
Is there a decent charger that doesn't need our usb cable and has a couple extra feet in length? I don't want to get a universal charger because I don't want to fry the phone's charging system, which happened to my old Vogue. Everything I have found online is a universal type charger.
Has anyone had any experience with a good wall charger for the hero?
Thanks,
- JustPyro
You are aware that a standard USB cable works with the Hero? No need to use the one that came with the phone.
Regards,
Dave
Buy a longer USB-miniUSB lead, plug that into your home charger, and then carry the shorter one that HTC supplies around with you.
I've also found the stock one too short so I got a longer one, I also got a 3 inch long one to keep with me for tethering at work.... fits in my pocket nicely and it doesn't need to be any longer when the phone is sat next to my laptop.
These days I rarely find anywhere where I can't quickly borrow a miniUSB lead to charge my phone, they're used on so many different devices. Oh, and don't be afraid of 'universal' chargers - the Hero works with these fine, since USB is a 'universal' standard and 5v is 5v no matter where it comes from.

[Q] Strange charging problem

Hi everyone, hope someone can advise.
I have a UK TG01 and it works ok but overnight it wont charge from the mains charger but it charges via usb.
I have tried different chargers and an old HTC mini usb charger with a mini to micro adapter fitted but its still the same.
I have the Mugen 1300Mha battery but its the same with the standard battery on all chargers.
I have cleaned out both the charger plug and the socket on my TG01 just in case of dust but no good it only charges via usb.
I have hard reset and flashed the standard UK Orange rom but this makes no difference.
Does anyone know whats going on? it was fine, no changes or software loaded and one day its fine and the next day it wont charge??
Any advice would be gratefully received, thanks for reading.
Faulty USB sockets i think try send it back to Toshiba for warranty repair.
Not sure about that as my TG01 does charge if I plug it into my laptop, this would suggest the socket is ok?
I believe that the charger is faulty, try a new micro usb charger, or try another socket
wafeeq said:
I believe that the charger is faulty, try a new micro usb charger, or try another socket
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Agreed. As the TG01 is charging via USB, then there is most unlikely to be an issue with the uUSB socket on the phone.
To tell the TG01 to go into charging mode, the uUSB connector on the charger must have the two data pins shorted out. This is the equivalent effect to connecting to a host laptop or PC when connected via a USB sync and charge cable.
If you have a non-standard charger or are using an adapter from eg. mini-USB to uUSB it is very likely that this will not be implemented.
A few questions...
- Are you trying with the supplied Toshiba charger ?
- If so did it work OK with this before but not now ? [likely duff charger]
- If a 3rd part charger, again has it ever worked ? [if not then probably missing the required pin config]
Hope that is of some help.
Hi Kevin, its a genuine Toshiba charger and I have been using it since day one.
I took my charger into work today and tried a friends Nokia micro usb charger and that worked first time so duff charger.
No, I asked him to try my Toshiba charger and that also worked
So I assume my original charger possibly may not be 'shorting' correctly or presenting exactly the right resistance to the TG01 or possibly my TG01 is getting a little fussy about how it charges.
Anyway I have ordered a genuine Nokia charger from ebay and fingers crossed all should be well and thanks for all the advice everyone.

[Q] True or false: Atrix USB cable has magic powers.

Hey y'all,
I was in the AT&T store the other day getting a replacement for my wall charger (it died and they replaced it under the warranty, nice guys) and they told me not to use any other USB cable with my phone because the Motorola one is special.
They say it charges faster and maybe does other things better too, although they didn't really say what else. Is there any truth to this, or were they just trying to sell more cables?
they are trying to sell more cables...
I got a cable from ebay for my car with a 90 degree tip so i can charge the phone while using it as a navigation device. it surely wasn't a Motorola cable but works great. I have also used other peoples chargers and cables, I think I had an issue only once where I borrowed the cable from a friend and the cable didn't want to charge, don't know what that was about, didn't play with it enough to figure it out, may have been a defective cable. but basically it comes down to, the charger is putting out 5 volts, if the cable carries all 5 volts to the device and doesn't loose any, it will work fine. Also there are only 2 pins in the cable that are used for charging, one for (-) and one for (+). those pins are all the same for every usb charger or a computer. also phones with that type connector are wired to receive the charge only through those 2 pins. Thus, all of them are made the same. The only thing that manufacturers will do is change the gauge of the wire being used in the cable, but with a 3 foot long cable, and only 1amp of power maximum traveling through it, it just doesn't matter
hope I was some kind of help to you...
Hey! I was also thinking that in my mind but couldn't express. I thought everyone will think I'm getting crazy! Buy my atrix full charges in just 1.5/1.45 hours with the Motorola's Official Wall Charger & USB Cable. I haven't seen any phone that charges that fast! The battery backup of this phone is awesome! 2days with moderate use & 4.5 days with normal use. Aweomeeeeeee!
I use the Factory cable at home, and an old Blackberry cable at work. No difference in the USB cables performance.
Hi,
Yes, nothing magic...
The Motorola wall plug is 850mA output, a PC USB port is UP TO 500mA and for example the IPhone one (square one) is 1000mA.
So the charging time will be shorter with the IPhone one, then the Motorola and finally the USB port.
As I have already say in another thread, I have connect the +5V of my power supply directly on the USB port, so now, no problem !
Now you know !

New Prime won't charge via power adapter

C series serial number prime worked for three days now won't take a charge. Device will connect to pc or mac via cable, just won't take a charge. Any ideas for me?
askmattrix said:
C series serial number prime worked for three days now won't take a charge. Device will connect to pc or mac via cable, just won't take a charge. Any ideas for me?
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there have been other threads about this. usually its the charger overheating and putting it in a ziplock in the freezer, resets it.
Mine did that too, just leave the charger and everything unplugged from the wall for a day. That fixed mine.
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The other issue I've seen is poor contact in the USB socket on the wall adapter. I had to unplug the usb cable from the wall adapter. Then, look at the usb socket on the power adapter. The gold pins are the usb contacts. Directly opposite of them, there should be two silver prongs. I had to use a small flat blade screwdriver to pry both of them out a little further to ensure they did their job of firmly pushing the usb cable against the socket's usb contacts. Once I did, my TF201 was able to get charge from it, again.
If you decide to replace the wall charger, I believe Fry's and Office Depot stock the asus charger.
Same thing for me.. PC recognizes it as a media device, but will not charge with wall charger. Wall charger works with my HTC Phone, so it works.
I don't think it has anything to do with the latest update, since the Dock wont charge either, and there's no OS in that, right?
Just experienced this today. I have had it unplugged for about 10 hours now, we'll see if it charges.
I had the same issue few days after I got my prime. I connected my sgs to the charger and it worked. Then connected the prime and voila-works.
askmattrix said:
C series serial number prime worked for three days now won't take a charge. Device will connect to pc or mac via cable, just won't take a charge. Any ideas for me?
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Which C model do you have? C1,2,3? Just asking.
Johnny0906 said:
Which C model do you have? C1,2,3? Just asking.
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C1. There are some good suggestions here I need to try.
Wrap it in a towel and bang it against a table. That will fix it usually. Then get some pc heatsinks and some arctic silver adhesive and you can attach them to the charger to keep it from happening again.
The plug has two options, 5V (standard for USB?) and 15V. I used the plug on my old HTC phone (Ozone) and then plugged it back into my Prime and it worked. Thanks for the great tips guys.
Since the charger works in two modes, I wonder if some charges became confused and started dishing out 5V when they should be dishing out 15V. Thoughts?
G37 said:
The plug has two options, 5V (standard for USB?) and 15V. I used the plug on my old HTC phone (Ozone) and then plugged it back into my Prime and it worked. Thanks for the great tips guys.
Since the charger works in two modes, I wonder if some charges became confused and started dishing out 5V when they should be dishing out 15V. Thoughts?
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Hi, I got the same problem. The charger indeed seems to be stuck in the 5V mode, since, when plugged in the tablet does get charged, even though it is not indicated, but very slowly. It is charging as if it is plugged in to a pc.
I tried plugging it into (old) phones, but I still can't seem to get it to switch back to the 15V mode.
The freezer didn't help either.
Any other suggestions?
I waited about 4-5 hours before plugging into my old phone. My other suggestion is to allow the phone to charge for a short bit (30 minutes) unplug and wait, then plug into your Prime.
I have a feeling that its a transistor toggle that isn't flipping at the correct voltage.
I've had the same problem yesterday. In my case the problem was with the charge socket on the keyboard itself. Some copper pins were deformed and that stopped the device charging. I took a magnifying glass(also for checking if any of the copper pins are bend) and a small tool to bend them back. After this it charged again. Hope this helps.
My charger suddenly stopped working from today. The Prime is detecting the connection as the screen turns ON but it is not charging. I charged my sensation using the same adapter and USB cable and it is working fine. Why can I not charge Prime via PC like phone? Is it possible? I am in India and not sure if the power adapter is easily available as Prime is not yet launched in India.
Kindly suggest.
Thanks in advance.
Hi,
I've started to have this problem today, plug it in and it does come up with the charge icon but it doesn't charge - or doesn't seem to.
However I left it connected last night from midnight until 8am this morning and it went from 13% to 17% so it is charging VERY VERY slowly although the unit doesn't actual seem to think it is.
I have it plugged in to my phone right now and its working perfectly, I borrowed the charger to my g/f last night to charge her iphone and i'm thinking this might have done something to flip the voltage as since then it isn't working.
Anyone have any ideas on this??
Kevin
thornd7 said:
The other issue I've seen is poor contact in the USB socket on the wall adapter. I had to unplug the usb cable from the wall adapter. Then, look at the usb socket on the power adapter. The gold pins are the usb contacts. Directly opposite of them, there should be two silver prongs. I had to use a small flat blade screwdriver to pry both of them out a little further to ensure they did their job of firmly pushing the usb cable against the socket's usb contacts. Once I did, my TF201 was able to get charge from it, again.
If you decide to replace the wall charger, I believe Fry's and Office Depot stock the asus charger.
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I had this problem a couple of weeks ago and completed the same as above works well
Gilbo12 said:
I had this problem a couple of weeks ago and completed the same as above works well
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But if the charger works fine when charging a phone it cant be the connection at fault..
It does seem to me that the power it is outputting has dropped especially the I managed to gain 5% over the course of a night where WIFI was off and screen was off even though the charge icon doesn't come up.
Is there a way of forcing the charger back in to 12v mode??
damnit... I had the same problems a few days ago and I thought it was in the cable instead of the charger... not realising the charger has to put out 15v instead of 5v.
Does this mean the Transformer won't charge with for example, my HTC charger?
I totally messed up my cable, because I thought it was broken... when I opened up the USB plug, I noticed the yellow wire was not connected anymore, but this didn't solve anything. Eventually I messed up the cable that bad, that I've ordered a new one from ebay... but when I read this... I should have just banged the charger a few times... shait.
funfair said:
damnit... I had the same problems a few days ago and I thought it was in the cable instead of the charger... not realising the charger has to put out 15v instead of 5v.
Does this mean the Transformer won't charge with for example, my HTC charger?
I totally messed up my cable, because I thought it was broken... when I opened up the USB plug, I noticed the yellow wire was not connected anymore, but this didn't solve anything. Eventually I messed up the cable that bad, that I've ordered a new one from ebay... but when I read this... I should have just banged the charger a few times... shait.
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Has anyone actually ever managed to fix this problem? I've just contacted ASUS about it to see what they say - hopefully they'll ship me out a new charger plug or something, what a useless charger!!

Dk30 won't charge when connected via usb? Any long usb cable that charges full speed?

Hi all!
So I just got the DK30 and I like it!
No problem at all docking and charging but I took it to work, connected to the computer USB and it is not charging. I thought it would charge, slowly but charge..but no go.
So I guess I will be bringing a surge protector extension tomorrow to connect the ac adapter to the DK30.
My other question is USB cables. I want to get a longer cable so that when I am gaming I can still charge via the usb port (since holding the magnetic one in place will not be possible).
But from experience, another thicker cable I got, only charges at 400-500mAh at best which is not enough when gaming.
Anyone has found one that works like the original?
Thanks!
shaolin95 said:
Hi all!
So I just got the DK30 and I like it!
No problem at all docking and charging but I took it to work, connected to the computer USB and it is not charging. I thought it would charge, slowly but charge..but no go.
So I guess I will be bringing a surge protector extension tomorrow to connect the ac adapter to the DK30.
My other question is USB cables. I want to get a longer cable so that when I am gaming I can still charge via the usb port (since holding the magnetic one in place will not be possible).
But from experience, another thicker cable I got, only charges at 400-500mAh at best which is not enough when gaming.
Anyone has found one that works like the original?
Thanks!
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No the dock wont charge off USB. Its stipulated in the manual.
USB out are 5v... but most are only 500mAh so the charge will not register on a docking device
Any cable thats magnetically sealed so to reduce power loss, will work. Depends on the manufacture process. A cheaper cable probably wont be very effective. Branded cables are usually better, but its hit and miss. I have a Samsung 2m cable that came free with an older digital camera, and it still works very well. But not sure on a link or anything to provide you with to buy one.
I am getting a good cable now , 6', it helps me when gaming although I realized I can for the most part game with the dock station attached and it does not fall lol..not very comfy for some games but works.

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