Hi all!
So I just got the DK30 and I like it!
No problem at all docking and charging but I took it to work, connected to the computer USB and it is not charging. I thought it would charge, slowly but charge..but no go.
So I guess I will be bringing a surge protector extension tomorrow to connect the ac adapter to the DK30.
My other question is USB cables. I want to get a longer cable so that when I am gaming I can still charge via the usb port (since holding the magnetic one in place will not be possible).
But from experience, another thicker cable I got, only charges at 400-500mAh at best which is not enough when gaming.
Anyone has found one that works like the original?
Thanks!
shaolin95 said:
Hi all!
So I just got the DK30 and I like it!
No problem at all docking and charging but I took it to work, connected to the computer USB and it is not charging. I thought it would charge, slowly but charge..but no go.
So I guess I will be bringing a surge protector extension tomorrow to connect the ac adapter to the DK30.
My other question is USB cables. I want to get a longer cable so that when I am gaming I can still charge via the usb port (since holding the magnetic one in place will not be possible).
But from experience, another thicker cable I got, only charges at 400-500mAh at best which is not enough when gaming.
Anyone has found one that works like the original?
Thanks!
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No the dock wont charge off USB. Its stipulated in the manual.
USB out are 5v... but most are only 500mAh so the charge will not register on a docking device
Any cable thats magnetically sealed so to reduce power loss, will work. Depends on the manufacture process. A cheaper cable probably wont be very effective. Branded cables are usually better, but its hit and miss. I have a Samsung 2m cable that came free with an older digital camera, and it still works very well. But not sure on a link or anything to provide you with to buy one.
I am getting a good cable now , 6', it helps me when gaming although I realized I can for the most part game with the dock station attached and it does not fall lol..not very comfy for some games but works.
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So, bought the following cradle from DayDeal's ebay store:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=350284094212
The product description says the following:
* Custom-fitted Docking Cradle
* USB connection/charging cable
* AC power adapter
* Stylus
Now the issue is with the second line. What is NOT explained here is that the unit when plugged IN to a wall jack AND the sync charge cable is plugged in to your computer, the sync/charge cable gets no more power from the wall jack and wants to get it from ONLY the sync/charge USB cable. All of this leads to the unit being grossly undercharged and therefore, complains that there is not enough charge coming from the power source and that you need to shut down and therefore the whole idea of a wall charger is useless after this.
WHY would a sync/charge USB cable which by the way is physically attached to the unit and cannot be removed, while the wall jack plugs into a proprietary mini-USB cable. I know it's proprietary because I tried first to use the wall charging cable that came with my TP2 from Sprint.
So, I'd recommend not buying this cradle unless you want to do what I'm doing now, have a USB sync/charge cable dangling from the unit and NOT plugged into the computer, but instead only plug in the wall charger and sync and data transfer via USB which is what I was doing before except now, I have a cradle to do it in.
Not a good trade-off to me. I bought this specifically to be able to sync/charge FROM the cradle.
One last thing, don't think about using the cradle if you have a skin or a hard case on the phone. The connector is so flush with the back of the charging stand that if you try to put anything BUT the phone into the stand it can't connect.
EDIT: December 5, 2009:
Been in touch with the vendor. They are going to swap out this unit for another one. They say that the unit doesn't do this at their site and that this one may be defective. I'll gladly swap this one out for one that works as unstated or at least expected. I'll post when I've gotten the new unit if this is actually a defective first unit or if this is the actual way these units work. And, I'll also try this on multiple machines so that I know it's not just my home desktop.
Another bad cradle from ebay DELUXE CRADLE W/2nd Battery Slot FOR HTC TOUCH PRO 2
When AC plugged in and USB to PC the PC USB sucks the power so the phone charges slow or not at all. Also doenst seem safe for the USB to send the power back out to the PC from the cheapo AC plug in this cradle. When used as a standalone charger AC only it sometimes fails to charge, about a 50-50 success rate. Stay away from it.
That's good info. It is the exact cradle I bought, but i bought it just for charging. I have not used it for connecting to the PC yet, but i needed a cradle that had a slot for a battery in it too.
wpbear said:
Another bad cradle from ebay DELUXE CRADLE W/2nd Battery Slot FOR HTC TOUCH PRO 2
When AC plugged in and USB to PC the PC USB sucks the power so the phone charges slow or not at all. Also doenst seem safe for the USB to send the power back out to the PC from the cheapo AC plug in this cradle. When used as a standalone charger AC only it sometimes fails to charge, about a 50-50 success rate. Stay away from it.
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That the one I have as well. I also have not use it for my computer.. All I really wanted was a cradle for my nightstand that had an additional battery charging slot as I also bought some of those $10 200mah batteries to try (have not received them yet)
dahauss said:
That the one I have as well. I also have not use it for my computer.. All I really wanted was a cradle for my nightstand that had an additional battery charging slot as I also bought some of those $10 200mah batteries to try (have not received them yet)
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200mA or 2000mA? Got a link please? Sorry for off topic.
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200mA or 2000mA? Got a link please? Sorry for off topic.
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=390130739877
2000mah
I purchased this cradle and my complaint has to do with the USB cable that is attached to cradle. I need a long line to reach back of my PC. This attached one does not reach unless I want to view the phone from 5' away! Very disappointed. I've only had it a few days but didn't know this, sanjsrik:
What is NOT explained here is that the unit when plugged IN to a wall jack AND the sync charge cable is plugged in to your computer, the sync/charge cable gets no more power from the wall jack and wants to get it from ONLY the sync/charge USB cable."
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It does seem slow to charge but I'll run a couple of tests to confirm.
Just ordered a portable USB charger.
Does the gtab take a charge from either of its usb ports?
I hope it does
Nope, but I am a noob. Ask an expert.
If it does, it would have to be from the mini USB port. The full sized one is a master (i.e. it supplies power to devices and operates them through the tablet), and the mini one is a slave (i.e. it lets you access the device as mass storage through another).
Other than that I'm not sure. I'd be interested to know this as well.
jacobbones said:
Does the gtab take a charge from either of its usb ports?
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It does not.
I don't think that most USB ports provide enough juice to charge a battery like the G-Tab's, so they probably just didn't bother making it a possibility. My friend's iPad requires a wall wart, too.
Oh poo.
The charger I boughts a 16000mah
It can charge the ipad etc... Bought it mainly for my phone but was hoping it would charge my gtab as well.
jacobbones said:
Oh poo.
The charger I boughts a 16000mah
It can charge the ipad etc... Bought it mainly for my phone but was hoping it would charge my gtab as well.
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It will absolutely not charge through either of those ports because it was not wired that way. DO NOT TRY FORCING THIS or you will in all likelihood destroy your tab.
Hopefully a basic cable that attaches to the dock port will allow charging via usb, even if it's a slow trickle charge.
Someone here said that the SanDisk Sansa cable fits in our dock port, but I can't recall if it worked at charging or not, though I'm sure if it did we'd be all over it.
USB voltage < gTab voltage
Per the Viewsonic web site the gTab operates at 7.4V and comes with a 12V charger. USB charges at up to 5V iirc. Maybe the gTablet is set up to charge one cell of the battery at a time, but I really wouldn't count on it. Likely the battery charging system isn't even connected to the USB ports at all (but I've been wrong before).
I say you give it a shot. In addition, I will offer you $25 for it, plus shipping, after you are done. I want to try removing the anti-glare layer as an experiment.
Brick man say Smoke it
SirhanSirhan said:
I say you give it a shot. In addition, I will offer you $25 for it, plus shipping, after you are done. I want to try removing the anti-glare layer as an experiment.
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That's funny! Wrong... but funny.
Just goes to show you, "Never trust a guy who wants to by a brick!"
No it DOES NOT Charge through the USB ports. Either of them...
Hey y'all,
I was in the AT&T store the other day getting a replacement for my wall charger (it died and they replaced it under the warranty, nice guys) and they told me not to use any other USB cable with my phone because the Motorola one is special.
They say it charges faster and maybe does other things better too, although they didn't really say what else. Is there any truth to this, or were they just trying to sell more cables?
they are trying to sell more cables...
I got a cable from ebay for my car with a 90 degree tip so i can charge the phone while using it as a navigation device. it surely wasn't a Motorola cable but works great. I have also used other peoples chargers and cables, I think I had an issue only once where I borrowed the cable from a friend and the cable didn't want to charge, don't know what that was about, didn't play with it enough to figure it out, may have been a defective cable. but basically it comes down to, the charger is putting out 5 volts, if the cable carries all 5 volts to the device and doesn't loose any, it will work fine. Also there are only 2 pins in the cable that are used for charging, one for (-) and one for (+). those pins are all the same for every usb charger or a computer. also phones with that type connector are wired to receive the charge only through those 2 pins. Thus, all of them are made the same. The only thing that manufacturers will do is change the gauge of the wire being used in the cable, but with a 3 foot long cable, and only 1amp of power maximum traveling through it, it just doesn't matter
hope I was some kind of help to you...
Hey! I was also thinking that in my mind but couldn't express. I thought everyone will think I'm getting crazy! Buy my atrix full charges in just 1.5/1.45 hours with the Motorola's Official Wall Charger & USB Cable. I haven't seen any phone that charges that fast! The battery backup of this phone is awesome! 2days with moderate use & 4.5 days with normal use. Aweomeeeeeee!
I use the Factory cable at home, and an old Blackberry cable at work. No difference in the USB cables performance.
Hi,
Yes, nothing magic...
The Motorola wall plug is 850mA output, a PC USB port is UP TO 500mA and for example the IPhone one (square one) is 1000mA.
So the charging time will be shorter with the IPhone one, then the Motorola and finally the USB port.
As I have already say in another thread, I have connect the +5V of my power supply directly on the USB port, so now, no problem !
Now you know !
Does anyone know if there is an official 2m USB cable available in the UK? I bought a generic one off eBay, but it charges the phone extremely slowly....
I use the 2m cable that came with my kindle 3 and it works as well as the original one
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Are you charging the phone from a USB port? If so, it's the limitation of the port, not the cable. Try with a proper charger an it should charge at a more sensible pace.
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Charging speed doesn't depend on the cable but on the charger it is used with.
anthon said:
I use the 2m cable that came with my kindle 3 and it works as well as the original one
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I'm afraid it doesn't work as well for me. I got a Kindle 3 cable, and while it does charge the phone (using the charger which came with the phone), it does it very slowly. So slowly that if I try to use the phone even for basic tasks whilst charging with it the battery still keeps heading south.
If I use the stupidly short cable that came with the phone it charges nice and quick, but every other cable I have used so far either doesn't charge or does so very slowly.
Any ideas as to why this would be?
On a related note, this sounds good, but again the cable looks stupidly short:
http://www.sonymobile.com/gb/products/accessories/quick-charger-ep851/
What are you using to charge your phone? An EP-800 or something else? I have a cheap 1500ma charger that seems to take ages to charge my Xperia. The cause was that for a full speed charge, pins 2 and 3 must be bridged. I dismantled the charger and put a tiny blob of solder on the usb port pins. It now charges like a demon.
Same story with my car charger. Before the mod I could actually lose charge when using satnav and streaming music over bluetooth.
I have a battery widget that says whether I am on AC charging or USB charging. Its name eludes me.
Oh, and a safer alternative may be to sacrifice a USB cable and bridge the pins on that.
Better than all those though is the official Blackberry Playbook charger. 2A and a long cable. Charges the phone like nothing else.
Yep, am using an EP-800.
Fortunately the latest cable I ordered works a treat, so I can happily recommend this one:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B007OWH65Y/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00
Rabangus said:
I'm afraid it doesn't work as well for me. I got a Kindle 3 cable, and while it does charge the phone (using the charger which came with the phone), it does it very slowly. So slowly that if I try to use the phone even for basic tasks whilst charging with it the battery still keeps heading south.
If I use the stupidly short cable that came with the phone it charges nice and quick, but every other cable I have used so far either doesn't charge or does so very slowly.
Any ideas as to why this would be?
On a related note, this sounds good, but again the cable looks stupidly short:
http://www.sonymobile.com/gb/products/accessories/quick-charger-ep851/
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Double the length, double the resistance of the wire. Assuming the have the same cross-sectional area.
I always thought that charging this tables takes forever.
Then, a few days ago I used an USB multimeter and found that using the original 1.5A Sony adapter and the original cablet, the tablet is charged just at 1.0A rate.
Then I tried with a thicker quality USB cable and the charge rate increased to 1.5A (+50%!), using all the power the adapter can give. The charge rate slowed down to 1.0A while approaching full charge but overall the charge process is much faster.
I did the test with the tablet powered on. Tried with or without the magnetic charging stand and I got the same results.
The original cable it's not damaged so I suppose the slow charging speed is intentional.
Anyway, I think I will continue to use the thicker cable so my charging times will be shorter, I suppose it's safe to charge this tablet at the full charging speed the original adapter can give, what do you think?
I never used the original cable that came with mine, I had a 6' Anker cable to spare so I used it instead and I thought it charged pretty fast, much faster then when I use the magnetic dock.
But I'm lazy, so it goes on the magnetic dock 99% of the time because it gets a full charge sitting on it anyways.
And there are kids.
Can't afford to lose the water tight bit.
This thing has found its way into the tub.
Darn good tablet.
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Pretty sure its safe, its CPU is a Qualcomm that supports quick charge.
tobalaz said:
I never used the original cable that came with mine, I had a 6' Anker cable to spare so I used it instead and I thought it charged pretty fast, much faster then when I use the magnetic dock.
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Do you use the same Anker cable with the magnetic dock? According to my findings, the magnetic dock should not slow down the charging process.
I don't have a USB multimeter, but I have used differnet USB cables to charge and found big difference in the charging time.
I have 2 original Sony chargers at home, one in the bedroom and the other in the Living room. Battery Monitor Widget showed that it could charge from 0 to 100% in 5.5 hours (at 1298mA, and 18.09% per hour) with a thick no-name brand USB magnetic cable in the bedroom, and down to only 406mA with the original Sony USB cable in my Living room.
The conclusion is: get a good thick USB charging cable.
ciarpame said:
Do you use the same Anker cable with the magnetic dock? According to my findings, the magnetic dock should not slow down the charging process.
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Yes. I use the same cable.
Dock charging seems (or should I say seemed?) to work a little slower if I'm waiting on the tablet. Its not incredibly slow and I can stream Showbox (w/ Growbox and Allcast) or Netflix from the tablet and it still charge faster then use its juice, so its not a worry for me.
I've never had a battery problem with it either, it'll go all day as a reader or watching media and still have at least 30% left at the end of the day, so it goes back on the magnetic charger overnight. No reason to directly plug it in anymore.
as long as it is a working usb cable, there is no harm that a cable cause to a tablet.
tobalaz said:
I never used the original cable that came with mine, I had a 6' Anker cable to spare so I used it instead and I thought it charged pretty fast, much faster then when I use the magnetic dock.
But I'm lazy, so it goes on the magnetic dock 99% of the time because it gets a full charge sitting on it anyways.
And there are kids.
Can't afford to lose the water tight bit.
This thing has found its way into the tub.
Darn good tablet.
BTW
Pretty sure its safe, its CPU is a Qualcomm that supports quick charge.
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Laughed aloud at the past about kids!
I bought a cheap 6ft USB charging cable and thought there was something wrong with my tablet because it took forever to charge. No multimeter, it damned on me that the cable was acting as a resistor probably because the wires are thin (cheapo).
Conversely, when I bought a refurbed z3V to have as a back up, it came with a generic charger that was rated only 1 amp (the phone charger from Sony is 1.5).
I think that as long as it doesn't go to much past the rated 1.5, it's good.
AddictedToGlass said:
Laughed aloud at the past about kids!
I bought a cheap 6ft USB charging cable and thought there was something wrong with my tablet because it took forever to charge. No multimeter, it damned on me that the cable was acting as a resistor probably because the wires are thin (cheapo).
Conversely, when I bought a refurbed z3V to have as a back up, it came with a generic charger that was rated only 1 amp (the phone charger from Sony is 1.5).
I think that as long as it doesn't go to much past the rated 1.5, it's good.
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I stick to Anker. They're good products, have a decent price and if you're ever in need of customer service they're awesome.
I emailed them over a discontinued mouse that was out of warranty (software issue) and they called me the next day and made sure it was working right. This past December they sent me one of their portable phone chargers as a loyalty reward. I've got mice, keyboards, chargers, wires, phone and laptop batteries from them and they've all been fantastic. They make it hard to want to buy from anyone else if they've got it.