G4 dead (really) after downgrade - G4

Hi,
I spent 6-7 hours of reading all kind of suggestions and etc, how to bring a brick to life. the only closest to my situation is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=295623
I flashed my phone several times and i hadnt much of problems until i tried to put wm6 update.
The last time I tried to downgrade to CUSTOM__RUU_Wizard_1050412_WWE_101_11210_WWE and the phone freezed to the start screen (that picture with the beer). I restarted it several times but it never went beyond it.
Then I tried to put the previous ROM that worked. I entered bootload mode and started the upgrade wizard. I waited it to finish, but it didnt! When it reached 98% it suddenly got back to 95%(!?) and after few seconds a message for connecition interupted appeared on the computer. The phone stayed on 95% for some time more and nothing happened. Then i clicked on the "how to restore" button of the upgrade wizard. I followed the instructions which stated on step 3 "remove the battery of the phone".
After I did that, my phone died and since then i cant do anything with it. The screen is all black. Of course I tried hard reset, bootloader mode and etc - all failed. It doesnt go into bootloader mode or do hard reset. The computer does not detect any USB connections. The charger doesnt appear to be detected by the phone (LED doesnt light up). There should be 50-60% battery power left. It was working perfectly before flashing.
I think the main problem now is how to enter the Bootloader.
Im not quite familiar with SD flashing, but i think i have the necessary hardware, just please advise is it possible and how I can do it.
Edit: Now I found that my SD card is unreadable too
Please help

Sorry
Greetings,
Sorry for your situation, but do you have G4 or G3 wizard.
If G4 was it CID locked or unlocked.

samy.3660 said:
Greetings,
Sorry for your situation, but do you have G4 or G3 wizard.
If G4 was it CID locked or unlocked.
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it is g4 cid locked
edit: i now remember that IPL & SPL had different versions like 1.x & 2.x after downgrading. I didnt know that I have to reflash in that case i found it in the forum too late

You should have read more before trying to flash your phone...
That downgrade that you made bricked your phone. That ROM was intended for G3 ONLY. If you have a G4 you should flash only G4-ROMS (or read how to extract ipl & spl from a G3 ROM) ... I am afraid there are no known solutions, because IPL and SPL on a G4 can`t be succesfully upgraded/reflashed (the hardware doesn`t allow that)

(the hardware doesn`t allow that)
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so how i did broke them in the first place?
anyway i'm trying to cook a SD card image, but the typhoon 5 tool doesnt convert the files to sd image format
Code:
C:\work>typho5.exe -r ipl=nk.nbf -d az.img
read 04741800 for ipl from nk.nbf
no IPL at 4 in IPL image
my idea is to either get a packeded file with all the modules or put them to the SD card one by one at the appropriate offset as it is described in the Wiki (using the winhex disk editor). Is the *.nb format the same as the modules in the SD card image? I mean can i directly paste the contents of the .nb files into the apropriate offset to the empty SD card?

Your only solutions are to get a new board or to get a JTAG device and discover the JTAG pins on the board since it's the only way you can access the flash chip without a bootloader. Problem is until now no one has managed to find the JTAG pins (or bothered).
What you have done was flashing an IPL (Initial Program Loader) that is for G3 DOC chips only (with a 130 nm manufacturing process) ; and since you have a G4 DOC chip (90 nm manufacturing process) the process fails.
This is the IPL:
A small XIP memory (ROM, NOR flash or DiskOnChip boot block) that contains code to
perform minimal system initialization: It must at least initialize the chip-select unit so that
the ROM (if any), RAM, and DiskOnChip can be accessed.
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3.2. The Boot Process
• Power up and initialization: After system power up, the IPL code that resides on the XIP
block of the DiskOnChip is executed. The IPL code initializes the DiskOnChip controller
and the RAM.
• Copying the SPL code from DiskOnChip to RAM: After initialization, the IPL reads and
loads the SPL code from the DiskOnChip binary partition to RAM. It then jumps to the SPL
start address in RAM and executes the SPL.
Notes: 1. In general, the IPL is limited in size to several KB (the size limitation varies,
depending on the device type), so it is not possible to include both the system
initialization code and the error correction code. The absence of the error correction
code in the IPL is the reason why the boot process is divided into the IPL stage and
SPL stage. The actual loading of the OS image to RAM is done by the SPL code.
Since the SPL runs in the system RAM, there is no limit on code size and it can
include the error correction code.
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As you can see on step 2 the IPL can't load SPL since they are for different chip versions.
cheers

mestrini said:
Your only solutions are to get a new board or to get a JTAG device and discover the JTAG pins on the board since it's the only way you can access the flash chip without a bootloader. Problem is until now no one has managed to find the JTAG pins (or bothered).
What you have done was flashing an IPL (Initial Program Loader) that is for G3 DOC chips only (with a 130 nm manufacturing process) ; and since you have a G4 DOC chip (90 nm manufacturing process) the process fails.
This is the IPL:
As you can see on step 2 the IPL can't load SPL since they are for different chip versions.
cheers
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yes, it seems that happened, but after flashing the g3 version, the phone still enters the bootloader. It died completely AFTER i tried to return the g4 version, and may be all happened because it didnt finish the instalation (which interupted for no reason) and stayed with messed up versions.
Anyway seems I need a new mobo, but i'm not sure i could find it here (i'm from Bulgaria) the closest vodafone store is in Romania. The phone is from Germany, a friend of mine bought it there.

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UnBrick the Bricked Hermes with "SPL 2.03 - IPL 1.04 - NO GSM - KITL Disabled"

UnBrick the Bricked Hermes with "SPL 2.03 - IPL 1.04 - NO GSM - KITL Disabled"
There are many people have this kind of brick but still no solution for it.
I want to ask the mods to make this thread sticky so if anyone find a sulotion for this type of brick would post it Here.
Summary :
IPL: 1.04
SPL: 2.03
CID: NO CID (Request timeout on mtty.exe)
NO GSM
KITL Disabled
I have tested all the possible sulotions available in the wiki but none of the could help me unbrick my hermes.
P.S. : Please just post your sulotions here NOT your comments like "you should superCID your device first", "It's your fault to use telstra wm6",....
Has anyone found a sulotion for this???
You Pm-ed me asking what to do and i pointed you in the correct direction so why have you started this thread?!
Hermes Unbricking Thread
and
Wiki page: How to unbrick your bricked hermes
EVERYTHING you need is there, you just have to read.
Maybe You do not read my Pm!
I have read all the wiki and thread concerning my problem several times!
The simple truth is that some phones are unrecoverable and have to be sent off for repair. Yours is one of these situations and I very much doubt that this will change. More and more of the pioneering technical guys will have updated their Hermes to another phone and the much admired POF has not been seen since he was accused of stealing...
The tacit feeling is that there is enough information and utilities to prevent people bricking their phones (i.e HardSPL and Update from MicroSD card) so if you do find yourself in this unfortunate position and can not recover your phone then you have to bite the bullet, and be better informed the next time.
POF accused of stealing !!!!????
What's that all about?
I dunno if I have a the same problem, but a similar issue, and trust me I am "PC guys, AMD fanboy, A+ tech:"whatever you wanna call i, I am expanding my horizons and I got into the mobile PC world. Trust me I am NOT Google lazy, i have read and read and read and researched and cross-checked and tried literally everything. I am stuck, I know what is wrong with my Hermes, I know where it messes up, and I DO see threads in other sites with 99.9% the same problem I have and I see NO soultion or anyone who knows or Really wants to help, I feel for Koorosh we need help, I have come to terms if have to send it away to repair. That bugs me I got it Literally 3 days ago, and ONLY used the OFFICAL AT&T WM6 Rom to upgrade
on my bootloader all I see is this........
IPL: 1.04
SPL: 2.03
I have too see in my display
IPL: 1.04
SPL: 2.03
when i can flash radio 1% and restart device!
try it
i also had the same problem.i have resolved using rom update through memory card.look for it in wike section.all the best.try it with original rom that came with the phone.
this will not work in this site again no solution for bricked spl2.03 cid locked
biswajitghosh said:
i also had the same problem.i have resolved using rom update through memory card.look for it in wike section.all the best.try it with original rom that came with the phone.
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Do you know to read micro sd flash not work when device is not superCID!!!
I maybe have the same issue.
From the HTC ROM I flashed my device to Shannix Grass rom, a few days later I flashed to Satin Black rom, so far so good. After that I want to flash back to Shannix Grass and my deviced crashed. While booting he stuck at the HTC screen.
I tried to hard reset, flash another rom (stuck and reset at 1%), flash the bootloader (stuck and reset at 7%). After the failed ROM flashing I get error 270 image is corrupted.
In mtty I tried to format the NAND, and tried the erase command, nothing worked.
How can I diagnose the problem further. Is it possible to see why the ROM update failed or why the OS won't boot? I did some monitoring with USB monitor but I didn't get results where I get some conclusions of.
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HTC Integrated Re-Flash Utility, Common Base Version : 1.51d
Device Name: HERM100, Bootloader Version : 2.03
Built at: Jun 16 2007 01:57:22
Copyright (c) 1998-2006 High Tech Computer Corporation
(My device is Herm200)
wow , i have the problem too. i almost live in phoneless .
.
SOLVED !!!!!!!! my phone now works
If your device became inoperable like mine, because i had a failed ROM upgrade,and the device failed to power up i have good news for ya.
MY DEVICE info is as below.
Problem:
Phone does not boot up, and looks like a red brick.
IPL: 1.04
SPL: 2.03
(it always gave an error 206 at 1% of any ROM update i tried)
Solution:
I downloaded the official WM6 ROM from the HTC's website below,
http://www.america.htc.com/support/8525/software-downloads.html
Then reset my device to the bootloader screen.
(holding the 'ok' button and the 'power' button and then using my stylus to push the 'reset' button close to the USB port.
i then disconnect the USB cable from my phone, and the display showed 'serial'.
i then ran the downloaded file, and waited till the collecting information from phone window came up, then i connected the usb cable back to the phone.
it connected, and VOALLA!!!... it started the update.
at least its better to have a working phone(without all the custom stuff), than none.
I hope this was not booring( with all the detail and all), but i hope it will help anyone out there who's device wont bootup.
wow , congraution!
i will take the method. but i wonder should i have to get the "connecting time" in the right point, or the computer can't find my phone??
( hope u know what i mean?)
Um.... i cant say for sure
weyun0513 said:
wow , congraution!
i will take the method. but i wonder should i have to get the "connecting time" in the right point, or the computer can't find my phone??
( hope u know what i mean?)
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Well.. i can't say you should wait 1 or 2 seconds, but just plug it in as soon as you get that screen. i hope it works for you tooo.
what was ur exact situation beforeu can unbrick ur phone???
IPL?
SPL?
KITL??
NO GSM ERROR?
what was the rom that has bricked ur device??
where did it stuck during the brick phase?
is that 1st splash,2nd splash,...??
This method did not work for me!!!!!
Try the Official Cingular ROM
koorosh_bsboys said:
This method did not work for me!!!!!
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My Hermes "red hot brick" happened when i tried upgrading to aCRCs_PHKv12r8, from a Schaps_WM6Pro_Hermes_4.31_WWE_Full ROM.
My device is a Cingulat 8525.
The upgrade went to the tricolor screen, and after 1% , my phone magically went off. I tried powering on, but it went to the tricolor screen again showing
IPL 1.04
SPL 2.03
and underneath showed "serial".
me too i'm having the same problem....any experts out there that could help us?

HardSPL-V7 SuperCID bricked-stucked in tri-color?

Hi gents,
I finally managed to put my hermes in unusable state and would appreciate any suggestions to get it working again.
Here is the situation: My phone is Hermes 200 with SuperCID and bootloader IPL-1.04, SPL-2.10.Olipro. Currently it sits stuck in tri-color bootloader mode and it doesn't matter what I do. Within last 24 hours I tried to change the boot flags "set 14 0" and "set 16 0" respectively at least 50 times without success. I flashed about 6 different versions of roms including original HTC distributions for WM5. Nothing happens.
As far as history is concerned, I flashed many roms since Black 1.0 onto my TyTN without any problems. two weeks ago, I tried one of Pay's roms trying to get something faster then Schap's 4.22 I was using. Got stuck in BL but could recover using the "set 14 0" and "set 16 0" commands. since then, I had couple of occasions where phone got stuck in BL after rebooting it. Removing and reinserting battery always helped. Last thursday, I donwgraded my radio from 1.54 to 1.43. You all know the reasons. No problems. Since then, phone worked like a charm and even power consumption was good. Yesterday, my battery ran out and in order to preserve it, I turned of the phone. Stuck in BL since then.I believe that the problem is that my SPL got somehow corrupted.
So my first question is, how do I reflash HardSPL from WITHIN BL with no access to OS? I can still talk to my phone BL through mtty and get all info etc.
Again, any help would be appreciated.
Roman
Please remember I'm new at this, but have you tried the sd card method of flashing? Hard Spl ver 7 has an .nbh file like a rom upgrade so this may be your best bet. Cheers.
Can't flash with SD card
ultramag69 said:
Please remember I'm new at this, but have you tried the sd card method of flashing? Hard Spl ver 7 has an .nbh file like a rom upgrade so this may be your best bet. Cheers.
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Didn't try it first as my SD card contains programs/data which I would like to backup first before formatting it. Unfortunately, my laptop with XP refuses to recognize it as a formatted drive for some reason after insertion. I have 2GB KingMax with adapter.
From SPL 2.10 Olipro to dead phone. It's getting worse every minute.
Well, guess what. My phone just decided today, around noon to boot into OS! even though I tried to reboot it several times during morning without success. So I left it alone, without resetting it until I got home. Spent plenty of time reading wiki and upgrading posts etc. While doing that, I backed up my SD card via ActiveSync file access and erased everything on the card. I also copied HardSPL v7 RUU_signed.nbh on it and renamed it to hermimg.nbh.
Going through all the info, I decided to try DOWNGRADE SPL 2.10 to 1.10, following mrvanx's guide and links, as it is still HardSPL. Well, the update process went without a hitch. It loaded SSPL on TyTN and flashed it with 1.10. No errors. It reset the phone and stopped in BL. Again. This time, it says 1.10 Olipro as it should. Going ty mtty after USB connection, and running info commands, reveals some differences as info 2 NO LONGER reports SuperCID as it did before. It just prints the HTCS marker. The phone is still SuperCID I believe as task 32 reports level=0.
Remembering that removing and reinserting battery sometimes helped ( I forgot to try the set 14 0 and set 16 0 ) I removed the battery. About ten minutes later and more wiki reading, I realized I should try the set flag commands. So I reinserted the battery, reboot and NOTHING. And I mean nothing! The phone is as dead as it could be. NO LIGHTS , NO DISPLAY, NO RESPONSE WHATSOEVER. Did I just foo bared my IPL ?
Sorry to hear that, best bet would be to pm Olipro and see what he has to say. He is the Guru when it comes to SPL. He may have an idea but if you cant get into bootloader then phone is probably foo bared, Still, I'd see what he has to say, might pull a miracle out of his hat...
Resolved. My TyTN is alive again
See post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1867765#post1867765 for the end of the story.
open mtty and put this command.
Put hermes in bootloader and disable activsync,
open mtty.exe select usb and put this command:
set 32 (enter)
set 14 0 (enter)
set 16 0 (enter)
task 28 (enter)
task 8 (enter) After this command hermes will automicaly boot os if not then your os is demaged just flash full rom.
what you see when write this command in mtty :
checkimage (with this command you can see status of full rom)
gsmhackerns said:
Put hermes in bootloader and disable activsync,
open mtty.exe select usb and put this command:
set 32 (enter)
set 14 0 (enter)
set 16 0 (enter)
task 28 (enter)
task 8 (enter) After this command hermes will automicaly boot os if not then your os is demaged just flash full rom.
what you see when write this command in mtty :
checkimage (with this command you can see status of full rom)
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I did the resetting of flags multiple times. No joy. I tried to do the NAND formatting as you suggested, nothing. Reflashing with shipped rom, nothing.
I ran checkimage so many times over last week, I lost count.
Stil BL only...
rronge said:
I did the resetting of flags multiple times. No joy. I tried to do the NAND formatting as you suggested, nothing. Reflashing with shipped rom, nothing.
I ran checkimage so many times over last week, I lost count.
Stil BL only...
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my God !!! that's the worst brick i ever heard, Hybrid brick ???
From the 1st post, I saw all of the effort you use and that's the way should be, but no result.
I think you should re-consider to buy new gadget then. This is for your health too
ermenzegna said:
my God !!! that's the worst brick i ever heard, Hybrid brick ???
From the 1st post, I saw all of the effort you use and that's the way should be, but no result.
I think you should re-consider to buy new gadget then. This is for your health too
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I still think it's fixable. When I turn the power button on, or plugin the charger, there is significant delay ( about 1.5 - 2 seconds ) before the BL starts. I think that the IPL is trying to boot the OS image but something goes wrong and it aborts and starts SPL. If the NAND is corrupted, it could be re-verified by a proper walkthrough and marking of bad blocks. I have done this at work while writing device driver for another Samsung NAND. I still have the code somewhere. Unfortunately, I don't know how to make it into signed nbs so it can be loaded and executed by SPL as a diagnostic utility.
rronge said:
I did the resetting of flags multiple times. No joy. I tried to do the NAND formatting as you suggested, nothing. Reflashing with shipped rom, nothing.
I ran checkimage so many times over last week, I lost count.
Stil BL only...
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Many people try to unbrick spl 2.03 stack in boot no gsm and kitl mode and can not boot os just led light when power up...can go in bootloader bat this is all!!!.
I speak with imei-check abaout this and they told me that can repair this and it will cost 60pounds+ Here is message from imei-check.co.uk to me Hello,
You must send the device to us. The cost is 60 GBP + 15 gbp postage fee to return it back to you (or 7 GBP if we send it back to a UK address). In the day we receive it, we fix it, and next working day we send it back to you.
If you want to go ahead, please send the device + battery
(i think just need to open temporaly cid unlock in spl and this will help i mean from dos prompt,blank screen+ then flash??)and i must sent from Europe Union country .I live in Serbia and think that solution to unbrick hermes existed bat not want to tell many people......?? I will work in this now and i hope that solution will be for free when fix this.. I unbrick many hermes.artemis...etc..in Serbia bat this solution to unbrick hermes with spl 2.03 temporaly can not not have time to try?. I now will try many solution and will post here when fix this,you can trust me??....
If somebody else create solution before me please sent me message to know??
Do not post any solution from this site i try all and not work(SD card will not work when cid locked,hard spl-not work always 100% then message image corrupted,No kitl.....so please only original solution not from xda-developers..etc.
thanks for all.

HardSPL won't succeed

Hi All,
I'm new to the PDA-world and the Hermes. I'm trying to Hard SPL my Hermes, but it fails everytime.
When I run 2.10 - Hard-SPL-V7, it kills activesync and my connection is lost and I get always the message "error 260, Update error".
I have the latest framework edition and tried it on 3 pc's (1 Vista, 2 XP)...
What am I doing wrong?
Hope somebody can help me....
Kind Regards,
Micha
1). dont connect to active sync. open active sync and untick "allow usb connections".
2). put hermes into bootloader and connect to usb.
3). run ruu_wrapper.exe
should update to hard spl....
dont forget to tick "allow usb connections" again or you wnot be able to sync..
error 260 is an open port error.
if you wish to flash new os would advise to use sd card method. its safer than using the computer. just make sure you have greater than 50% battery power. happy flashing
Thnx, will give it a try.
First I have to flash HardSPL before I can flash a new OS, don't I?
yep, sorry, should have said run the ruu_wrapper for hard spl. My bad...
im having the same problem. I also tried the way ultramag recommended but i also received the same ending. After time i try i get the Error 260 Update error. Im running SPL 2.04 and the HTC WM6 rom from the HTC website. Does any one know what the problem is?
ultramag69 said:
2). put hermes into bootloader and connect to usb.
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NOOOOO, that won't work, you need the SSPL to deploy to the phone, if you're running stock HTC bootloader this won't work at all, otherwise we'd have no need for Hard-SPL
hey olipro, then how would i fix this. Im running the stock rom from the HTC website with no hacks. Im trying to load PDA Corners V9 rom. Any ideas on how to fix? thanks!
Take a peek at the guide i wrote about updating the hardspl. Theres some explanation about why we need to use SSPL and the procedures.
http://www.mrvanx.org/hermes_guide/hardspl
thats the guide i used. it still gives me the error. I even unchecked "allow connections" cause i read somewhere that that would help.
i did this two days ago on my phone, im running windows vista on my home laptop and got any number of errors and problems trying to do it via sync with the phone (even after reading the vista troubleshooter, with the drivers etc)
What i ended up using was the memory card upgrade, dump the file onto the memory card and go into bootloader with the card installed.
worked fine doing that way, maybe less risky as there is no chance of the usb cable coming out.
just make sure you have a good battery charge on the phone.
Help Help Help w bricked 8525
I got into this position trying to upgrade WM5 to WM6 from HTC site.
Process got to 20% and just stayed there.
I reconnected usb cable and got a vendor id error
Then I get the Error [260]: CONNECTION
I have read a lot of posts and have tried the sd method (although i am not 100% clear) and all i get is the screen with four colors, red, green blue and white.
I believe this is the bootloader? I have downloaded RUU_signed.nbh, renamed it to hermimg.nbh, installed on root of my SD card and held OK, soft reset and power button:
My display reads:
HERM100
IPL-1.04
HERM100
SPL-2.03
This is where my journey ends.
All post indicate that the device can be reflashed and have the OS reinstalled. I can't get there from here.
Can anyone please help?
blackdog9692 said:
I have read a lot of posts and have tried the sd method (although i am not 100% clear) and all i get is the screen with four colors, red, green blue and white.
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How big is your SD card? Flashing only works with cards <2GB. Also, sometimes certain cards just don't work for flashing, and just swapping to a different card fixes the problem.
I assume you searched the wiki, and found the relevant pages on the Hermes (including SD Card Flashing and other things about flashing/upgrading) there?
Still Lost
My SD is 2GB and I have tried many times but i just keep getting the 4 color screen. rt now when i boot from the SD my screen goes white and displays "Loading..." and then returns to bootloader screen. When i attempt to flash the rom via PC to WM5 or WM6 i get the Error 260, i also get a vendor ID error sometimes.
How can i find the key 8525 thread that i am told has the answer to my delima? I keep picking up bits and pieces but am missing some key steps and tips.
blackdog9692 said:
My SD is 2GB and I have tried many times but i just keep getting the 4 color screen. rt now when i boot from the SD my screen goes white and displays "Loading..." and then returns to bootloader screen.
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That sounds like the SD card is formatted incorrectly. Make sure it's formatted using fat32, nothing else will work.
Still not there from here
Thanks for your help. Before I formatted the SD FAT32, nothing would happen doing the bootloader reset. OK/ON/reset button.
After format and only the hermimg.nbh file renamed as indicated, I then get what looks like the loading process but back to the bootloader screen.
Q1: This is an AT&T 8525, it was perfectly fine before failure from WM5 to WM6 (process froze at 20%), what is the RUU file that I need to put on SD??
Q2: After "Loading ..." I try the WM5 PC upgrade of ROM via USB cable, I get the load process to appear to work but it gets to 1% and the phone reboots and the PC reports error [294]: Invalid vendor ID. If I do this again I will get the Error [260]. Ive repeated the process several times.
Is this the normal course to take or should the "SD Method" (with the WM5 or WM6 RUU.. file) complete the process to a working OS?
Q3: Is my situation hopeless? ATT will take my out of warrantee 8525 and reflash for $129. Reading the threads it seems that like me this can be done by me, this is my desire.
Q4: I still am confused by some basic terms and assumed steps. I dont understand "Hard SPL" or OLI's IPLs/SPLs and when and when to use them.
The newbe guide has been off line. I will look again. Is there a single place to read about "radio PDAs and the 8525 and understand the software build and custom options?
Sy for the long post. But still want to fix if possible or I will be force to mail in for ATT repair.
Thank you all.
blackdog9692 said:
Q4: I still am confused by some basic terms and assumed steps. I dont understand "Hard SPL" or OLI's IPLs/SPLs and when and when to use them.
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Oh boy, you haven't installed HardSPL? You are walking a bit of a line there mate...
HardSPL is a custom boot loader that makes bricking your phone when flashing much harder to do, and helps large amounts in the recovery process if you phone does brick.
Does the phone boot at this point? If so, do not try flashing the phone again. Go get a copy of HardSPL and install it, then try flashing from the SD.
I still wonder why people didn't read before bricking...
Anyway, you should start reading now and wiki is your friend. Your SPL is 2.03, so look at the bottom of the page (there is only one solution till now, so good luck with that):
Code:
1. Boot OS using KITL+PB
2. Do no disconnect your HERMES till the end of the step 6
3. Download SSPL on HERMES by wifi from ie explorer
4. Launch SSPL then flash Hard-SPL from your computer
5. Put your hermes in bootloader mode
6. Flash any radio in NBH format from your computer
Still researching and working this bricked 8525
Thanks for coming to my aide. I believe that I have Hard SPL'd my device. I downloaded Olipro's Hard SPL v7. extracted the RUU_ file and renamed to hermimg.nbh.
I then put it on an SD card and held the keys and reset. The device displayed a white screen and "Loading..." appeared. Afterward the 8525 returned to the stipped boat loader screen and that is where I am now.
Some of the help i receive and read on wiki threads has me confused with what to do next and how "exactly" to do it.
It does seem that I am not alone and people have fixed their phones and the process to do this is on the forum. I'm just still missing something.
Help me further if u can.
Thank you.
blackdog9692 said:
Thanks for coming to my aide. I believe that I have Hard SPL'd my device. I downloaded Olipro's Hard SPL v7. extracted the RUU_ file and renamed to hermimg.nbh.
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FYI: bad form to PM someone and post the same thing here. Keep it in the thread so others can be helped as well.
As I replied in the PM, if I'm understanding your post correctly, the phone boots to the tri-colour screen?
What text is showing on the screen? This will tell if HardSPL is on the phone or not.
jdc said:
What text is showing on the screen? This will tell if HardSPL is on the phone or not.
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We already know that the phone is without HardSPL, according:
My display reads:
HERM100
IPL-1.04
HERM100
SPL-2.03
This is where my journey ends.
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There is small chance (read my previous post) to unbrick device with SPL2.03 so better try to get this back from where you take it.
And please, change topic, because this brick isn't HardSPL fault at all.
Edit: oh dear, it's even not your topic ...good game, I'm off

Assistance Needed

Well over a year ago I bought the MDA-Vario and back then promptly flashed the rom to remove T-Mobile default. I installed MR.Clean Rom, after a few months of medium usage I completely forgot about the device and never used it.
Found it again the other day and came back here so I could upgrade/flash it so I can use the device as SatNav on the latest rom/build.
I can confirm that my device is G4:
WIZARD SERVICE TOOL REPORT
Wizard Service Tool v4.2.2
13/07/08 18:24:16
CPU: Texas Instruments - OMAP850
MODEL: Wizard
IMEI: *************
=> Bootloaders:
IPL: 2.21.0001 (G4 device)
SPL: 2.21.0001 (G4 device)
Built on Mar 9 2006 at 13:52:14
Copyright (c) 2003 High Tech Computer Corporation
=> Firmware:
OS: 5.1.xxx (Build 14955.2.3.0)
ROM: 2.24
Registry AKU: .2.3.0
Radio: 02.25.11
Protocol: 4.1.13.12
=>Extended_ROM:
Version: 2.24a Mr. Clean
Name: Extended_ROM
Status: hidden
=> Drives and partitions:
|--Handle--|---Size---|
0e9e4332 - 9.99M (0x9fd800)
aea9c13a - 43.24M (0x2b3e000)
cfb25f96 - 50.95M (0x32f4000)
4fb25f42 - 2.94M (0x2f0000)
0fb25fba - 3.06M (0x30fc00)
=> DOC chip unique ID:
00000000f23102052b35008f13050698
Key Index: 57
Now, I am having great difficulty searching these forums because after not being around here for so long I don't even know what I'm searching for.
I have been reading different posts/guides since last night pretty thoroughly and I haven't gotten any closer to figuring out what I need to do etc.
I would like a fast/simple/clean G4 WM6 Rom, so far I have been unable to find one on these forums aswell (Why? Read the 2 previous paragraphs.. I honestly do not know what I'm looking for regarding compatibility with my device etc)
I understand I probably have to revert my rom to the T-Mobile original and start from there.
Please can somebody link me to the files I need, including roms/programs/guides.
Better still add me to MSN cr0sis at hot*mail d0t c0 d0t uk *(Not bothered about having this email listed publically, I never use it as email at all)*
Well,its not that hard to find what you are looking for,To upgrade read and follow either 'SoftSPL' or 'HardSPL' posted as stickies on the top of this thread.
To get a rom of your choice,look in the 'Wizard Mobile6' forum,all the latest custom build wm6 or 6.1 roms are safe for flashing a G4 phone.
I managed to figure out Shelltool (despite a ton of broken download links etc)
and successfully flashed TNT 19213. I was getting too many errors (on first boot "Timesomething not working" blah blah, then a lot of programs it claimed to have installed simply did not work (No icons in program viewer or anything).
Anyway, not here to complain about a specific rom not working, so I'll just get on with trying another. Shelltool seems to be the only working flash tool out there, and since last night I have tried a lot of different methods to the exact guide instructions.
I need to go through a list of the roms I can find which ARE successfully linked to still (Again, so many broken links on here it's unreal!). I'll report back when I've cracked it and got a rom I can actually use.
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Ok, I ****ed up during a flash. Won't go into detail of how/what I did but basically, I need the original MDA-Vario Rom for T-Mobile or I can't continue, Anyone know a working link please??
SoftSPL works. You do need a ROM that boots tho - if whatever you try to load DOESN'T boot you're screwed and left on the tricolor screen, and need an ORIGINAL load for that device (with the proper CID) to recover.
DO NOT screw around with loading things on a G4 unit without a proper CARRIER ORIGINAL firmware file you can use to recover with if something goes wrong.
Guess why I know this.....
Hehe Hmm, I wonder.
Well, yeah, I know this too now. But I wasn't screwing around I just had really bad luck because less than 20 seconds after starting shelltools I had a power surge followed by a brief power cut, effectively "Removing the USB cable during this operation" which of course we all know full well not to do
So I can use SoftSPL even when stuck in bootloader/RGB screen? I'll need a little help on how because I get "unable to copy files, try again?" dialogue. Gone into Activesync, told it not to accept USB connections, Killed activesyncs exe file in running processes in task manager and still no joy. Then again, do I really need to use SoftSPL if what I'm doing now is only putting on my carriers original rom (Yes, I found it.. Eventually! The rapishite links weren't working for me at the time, strange that suddenly they all started to late last night)
No, you need to get a copy of a valid firmware file for the unit and carrier you have, and flash that - then, once you've done that and its running again, use SoftSPL again.
SoftSPL will NOT work from the tricolor screen.
Ok this is going to sound really dumb but:
Stuck in bootloader completely
I have my devices original rom
Extracted the nk.bf file
Ran shelltools, it froze
Ran RUU, Errors (Possibly wrong .dll version, I'm not sure?)
I am following all the wrong guides because not one is telling me how to flash when stuck in bootloader, with what program or version.
My head is fried
If you have an ORIGINAL carrier ROM (which is an EXE, self-extracts and then runs the RUU that is in it) you can run that from the tri-color screen and it will flash successfully.
Don't try to extract anything or get cute with the carrier ROM - just run the loader (the EXE) and it should self-extract and execute.
You CANNOT flash a cooked rom from the tricolor screen on a G4 phone. It won't work - the loader will complain about being an invalid file or device and quit.
You need an ORIGINAL carrier ROM load for that phone - not a cooked one. Load it, go through the startup (screen cal, etc) and then use SoftSPL again.
Ok well I thought I had the correct original Rom for this device, but after 3 times trying to flash it to my device by just running the .exe I get
Error[294] Invalid Vender ID
This update cannot be used for your PDA phone. Please check your update utility
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Nevermind, seems I was linked to the G3 version in a G4 thread. Goddamnit.
I can't find the G4 version so I'm going to try and flash Wizard_Love rom.
In the days of SoftSpl and HardSPL, messing with RAPI tools like Shelltool is really risky. You should have taken more time with the wikis and guides.
Now you must use an official RUU (from your provider) or you won't be able to recover your phone (since it's G4 and it's CID locked)
Ok Brightrom installed, no panic anymore
Easier than I was first led to believe after spending a little more time figuring out the guides.
gazman86 said:
Ok Brightrom installed, no panic anymore
Easier than I was first led to believe after spending a little more time figuring out the guides.
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THUMBS UP
And today after a greatly anticipated arrival of my new miniSD card, my device completely destroyed it! I switched off the wizard, plugged the card in, switched on, noticed the card was really hot within a matter of seconds.. card wasn't readable in the Wizard/PC/Card reader/Digital Camera/Second phone...
I already stuck it in my Card reader after unpacking it just to be sure it was working...
Anyway, I'll buy two more lol. Could just be that I bought a ****ty card.
Anyone know where to get the latest TomTom + UK map?

wizard g4 problem burning roms

hey, im new but have read many of the pages here. i have burnt roms to my first wiz (G3) unlocked it and everything went well. i came about a wiz (G4) last week wm5 bland rom locked and want to get wm6 on it so after my research i went to the IMEI unlock site and purchased the unlock for the g4
the unlock seemed to go well the first time but, it won't come out of boot loader mode
i ran hornet o.10 for g4 it runs and completed to 100 % and then on reboot it comes up with the boot screen again
IPL 2.21.0001
SPL 2.21
i ran the tnt 1933 rom this morning and it completed 100% but still i have a boot screen
i know im missing something the battery power is fine .
i downloaded the stock rom for cingular but it won't load it has error "(294) INVALID VENDOR"
any suggestions ...
thanks in advance for your input
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hey, im new but have read many of the pages here. i have burnt roms to my first wiz (G3) unlocked it and everything went well. i came about a wiz (G4) last week wm5 bland rom locked and want to get wm6 on it so after my research i went to the IMEI unlock site and purchased the unlock for the g4
the unlock seemed to go well the first time but, it won't come out of boot loader mode
i ran hornet o.10 for g4 it runs and completed to 100 % and then on reboot it comes up with the boot screen again
IPL 2.21.0001
SPL 2.21
i ran the tnt 1933 rom this morning and it completed 100% but still i have a boot screen
i know im missing something the battery power is fine .
i downloaded the stock rom for cingular but it won't load it has error "wrong update utility"
any suggestions ...
thanks in advance for your input
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Are you sure SPL is 2.21 and not 2.21.0001 as IPL 2.21.0001 ?
Well,if its 2.21 only,the phone's got mixed Bootloaders (IPL/SPL),IPL 2.21.0001 are G4 and SPL 2.21 is G3,I don't know how you got it,but your phone is 'Bricked'
mmm it figures
so it appears there could be a problem with the imei program,
as i said it never came out of boot mode after the unlock
and no errors were shown ...
i could get another and replaced the main board, this one is in new condition
except for the custom bricked rom . in the future i will not play with a g4
thanks for the diagnosis, no way to flash a new spl / ipl ... i did read that if
it booted you could get it back in some chance cases .. i am curious as to how this happened (others not doing this for a hobby could brick there only phone)
step 1 - ran imei unlock
never came out of boot mode after
2- flashing the to above roms said to be G4 safe
i never look to see what the ipl / spl were before
i looked with the wizard tool but didn't save it
well you live and learn, it's good for parts now off to ebay for another crack at it ...
thanks everyone ... the best thing about this phone is everything you can do to it
with help from those who know ...
I recommend trying to flash back to original service provider ROM, then unlock again and try another. As long as you can get to bootloader (tri-color screen), there's still hope for your phone. When it's in this mode, and you plug in the USB, does it say USB at the bottom of the phone screen? If so, you are not dead yet.
Custom build wm6 roms like TNT etc... never Brick a G4 phone as no IPL/SPL is included in them,they are completely safe for G4 devices.What I can gather,it must be the wrong imei unlock code perhaps.
Well,like Myrddin Wyllt said,there's no harm in trying,so if it gets into Bootloaders,try to flash the official rom and if there's an error "wrong update utility" ,replace the RUU in the rom with this RUU and run this RUU,hope it might work.
Myrddin Wyllt said:
I recommend trying to flash back to original service provider ROM, then unlock again and try another. As long as you can get to bootloader (tri-color screen), there's still hope for your phone. When it's in this mode, and you plug in the USB, does it say USB at the bottom of the phone screen? If so, you are not dead yet.
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yes sir i can talk to the phone from xp pro ..
USB does come up
so i can swap the RRU with the nbf file i need ...
no file name change required on the xxx.nbf file
thanks alot for the(schooling) advise ... i was going to need to brick another to make some book ends... this could save me that
stuck
Airborne_Pathogen said:
yes sir i can talk to the phone from xp pro ..
USB does come up
so i can swap the RRU with the nbf file i need ...
no file name change required on the xxx.nbf file
thanks alot for the(schooling) advise ... i was going to need to brick another to make some book ends... this could save me that
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ok, i swapped out every RUU i could find i get errors from
read file
invalid vendor id
wrong update utility
im too new to figure this out ..can you extract a ipl / spl from an
official rom and then flash that to get the boot loader's back in sync
i found the att 8125 ipl /spl nbf when i flash, it runs to 100% reboots but no changes
anyone have a link to flashing just the ipl / spl on the g4
i am most thankful for any advise ..
try running the hardspl on phone, it might just work to revert it back to a G4 spl.
Link to HardSPL : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=332320
and G4 ipl and spl here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=342744
Also I paid to the IMEI Check and I had to change the plate because the PDA died as yours. E had not returned to the money of the IMEI Check only reply to me was that it had to change of plate ..... It had the unblocked CID?
bastards
yes they won't return my money ... somehow they bricked my phone
i would use the hard /spl and not the imei those guys are assholes

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