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Just an FYI -
There is a NEW StarTrek coming soon. This, of course, will be available all over the world and Cingular will be caring it. There are some major upgrades to this device. (GSM850, GSM900, GSM1800, GSM1900, UMTS850, UMTS1900, UMTS2100, WM6, 400Mhz CPU and a 2MP Camera) Not to shabby for a clamshell.
HTC S420
Here are the specs - http://www.pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=727&view=1
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as cartman would say, sweeeeeeeetttttt!
Where have you read anything that Cingular will carry this for sure? I'm hoping that they will but to date all I have seen is speculation.
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Where have you read anything that Cingular will carry this for sure? I'm hoping that they will but to date all I have seen is speculation.
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John - Here are some articles from the press. Also, this does have the GPS chip in it also. The downside is that the preliminary specs show a USB 1.1 speeds. Arghh!! Why have a phone this nice with USB 1.1 is crazy! Not all that bad though.
http://www.ubergizmo.com/15/archives/2007/03/more_htc_s420_details_emerge.html
http://www.uberphones.com/2007/03/htc/more_on_the_htc_s420/
http://www.instagps.com/entry/rumored-htc-s420-erato-has-gps-too/
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128mb rom and 64mb ram is useless in a device with these specs. You will have limited opportunity of putting it to use without running out of memory. And why such a meagre battery? I would have thought that cingular 3125 has set the way to go.
sales figures (the future of WM flipphones) ?
Does anyone have sales figures on the 3125 ?
Basically, I'd like to know if it appears that Smart flipphones like the 3125 are popular enough that we can expect strong future developments, even an increase in their prevalence.
There's a constant little battle, e.g. in Treo forums, WM forums, as to whether *everyone* wants a QWERTY, whether candybay-QWERTY phones are the "one true" form factor. I for one, prefer no QWERTY, and a flipphone. I have a feeling that I'm in the minority -- but that's ok. The real question is: Is it so small a minority that we can't expect much in the way of future offerings. The 3125 is really the only current example of this form factor (there were the Samsung i500, i600, and the Kyocera 7135 and the Moto MPX200 in the past). Is the future not terribly bright ?
I really want an 3125-like phone WITH a touch screen, running full PPC. No way ? Why not ?
Qwerty-haters unite
I really want an 3125-like phone WITH a touch screen, running full PPC. No way ? Why not ?
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We may be in the minority, but I'm totally with ya - that is my ideal converged device. The numeric keys are the important ones (especially in my case, where my employer enforces passcode lock if I choose to do Exchange sync, so I am punching in numbers all the time). But Qwerty tends to add a lot of bulk on a device that I want slim and pocketable - so if you want slim like I do, touchscreen and stylus should be good enough for text entry. I think most people haven't worked with stylus enough to see that it can be pretty fast.
The 3125 is really the only current example of this form factor
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Well, if you are in the US, there is one other offering now. If you don't mind a CDMA network, Verizon recently came out with the Pantech PN-820 WM5 flip smartphone. Not significant worldwide, but maybe a hopeful sign for our favorite form factor...
http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/02/03/verizon-gets-pn-820-smartphone-out-the-door/
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Well I still agree we are in the minority, but a couple of manufacturers are about to give us our wildest dream and see if it flies. If you haven't already, you need to check out the upcoming i-Mate Ultimate 9150, supposed to be available in June this year. It's everything you've mentioned - flip-phone with WM6 Pro (full PPC with touchscreen) and a very nice spec sheet:
http://www.pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=720
The only thing it is missing that I really want in my ultimate converged device is built-in GPS. For that, I am keeping my eye on the upcoming HTC P5500 (aka "Nike"), supposed to be available in September. It is a numeric slider instead of flip, but similar idea so maybe close enough for me...
http://www.pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=736
I agree, the 3125 form factor is the way to go. I can type much faster with T-9 than with the Qwerty anway. Unfortunately, everyone seems to be in love with either the bricks like the 8525 or the Treo.
Thanks for the pointers to coming promising smart flipphones. Perhaps there *is* a god ... We should throw the upcoming Samsung SGH-i770 into the same mix: with its innovative QWERTY, it might just solve the debate between dialpad and QWERTY:
http://www.handcellphone.com/archives/innovative-qwerty-full-keyboard-design-samsung-i770-cellular-phone#more-109
Is there any way we can ask/suggest to HTC to build a StarTrek with a touch screen and full PPC ?
still no wifi? WHY?!
I'd gladly forget 3G and include a WiFi chip... Because when I don't have a signal, I love to surf and find WiFi hotspots, and I have all my calls forwarded to a skype number when unavailable (sort of like UMA, tho uma isn't available yet).
I wanted the StarTrek so badly, but lack of WiFi breaks the deal for me! I was hoping they'd add it to this one... *sigh*, guess I'm stuck with my tornado for now, with wiFi.
new start trek
i have qtek 8500 and its a fantastic phone now with this new one i could replace it
pitty the new one hasnt got wifi otherwise what i heard about it is a very good phone much better and faster than qtek 8500
I agree, I would give up 3g for a Wifi chip if it would cost acouple bucks more. I access the internet at higher speeds with a Wireless internet at home and work! The internet via Cingular is SLOW, even at it's fastest. Its like comparing dialup with high bandwidth. Cingular can not come close to 15 Mbps download and 1 Mbps upload speeds.
Hi, all...
I have read a new atom v from internet. Very nice lookly . Please check this
abusalza said:
Hi, all...
I have read a new atom v from internet. Very nice lookly . Please check this
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Yeah it does look nice. the only con I can see from the specs is the 64MB SDRAM. It should have been loaded with a 128MB and it will be the godzilla of all ATOMS hehehe
some little add-ons left by MWg that was not integrated with the atom v
* a standard 3.5mm jack would be nice as well
* where's the IR? no more novII remote hehehe
Very nice...love that it has gps!
Seems it will be released in feb...I'll be getting one then
and its quite cheap! AU$839. htc touch cruise will be $1159!
Looks like it is QVGA (320x240)
thinks the Zinc II is nicer...
It be great if CPU up to 624Mhz and 1GB ROM like Atom Life and plus 128MB Ram
Love that camera is 3M Pixel
Don't know why they put gprs onto it but not increase cpu speed/ storage for big gps apps/ RAM for fast cache
Is it 520Mhz cpu perform faster or better than Atom Life??
Although i like the look of Atom Exec than Life or V
In my though
It will perfectly for me if
- CPU Better than or Equal 624MHz
- RAM >= 128MB
- ROM >= 512MB
- OS >= WM6
- GPS built in
- Camera >= 3MP (Better if 4MP or 5 MP) with better Zoom function
- Better Speaker than current Atom
- Less power comsumption (Conflict with CPU Speed) or Greater Battery
- LCD more than 2.8"
- Better HeadSet and can use with 3rd Party stereo earphone with FM enable through it
- Better Bluetooth Stack for Better music via bluetooth stereo with FM enable through it
I'm greedy ..... he he he
hehe, I like your suggestions! Also needs:
- 640x480 resolution screen
- Infared (only so I can use novii remote)
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thinks the Zinc II is nicer...
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Yeah... was going to get a HTC cruise but the Orbit II, Atom V and Zinx II all tick the right boxes for my needs... Would agree the Zinc II look very sexy
Doh, specs have changed to 2MP camera...
Brendo said:
Seems it will be released in feb...I'll be getting one then
and its quite cheap! AU$839. htc touch cruise will be $1159!
Looks like it is QVGA (320x240)
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I have said I won't buy any other Atom, just look at the popularity of AtomExec and its supports that we are getting.
You sure want to go there again?
MWG stated, that the new devices are from Arima and Gigabyte and they don't longer have a partnership with Quanta and Asustek.
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You sure want to go there again?
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had an 02 Atom for 20 months now and very happy with except the IR cover fell out... kept 02 ROM updates and has been stable with very little resets (could go many months with one). As with anything that becomes popular (aka iPod) there are going to be issues. Believe they really need to get their service game in order and hopefully MWg is more than a name change and fix that ... but they are coming out with some good looking/spec devices... Zinc II, Orbit II (HTC Touch Cruise) Atom V etc... because of my experience would consider but understand others may not .... we can only base on our own experience and mine is yes would go there again
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had an 02 Atom for 20 months now and very happy with except the IR cover fell out... kept 02 ROM updates and has been stable with very little resets (could go many months with one). As with anything that becomes popular (aka iPod) there are going to be issues. Believe they really need to get their service game in order and hopefully MWg is more than a name change and fix that ... but they are coming out with some good looking/spec devices... Zinc II, Orbit II (HTC Touch Cruise) Atom V etc... because of my experience would consider but understand others may not .... we can only base on our own experience and mine is yes would go there again
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Not going to argue with you. One of my friend is very happy running with his Windows 2000 and couldn't get him moved to XP even with a gun pointing at his head. Different strokes for different folks. But, being a Computer Junkie, I can guess what majority of the people like or dislike in gadgets and very seldom err.
AtomExec is very sexy, I paid HKD5,900 for it so you can estimate the time frame. Mind you that I already had an Dopod 818, an Treo650 and an O2 xda (818pro). The logic of wanting an AtomExec is like wanting a hole in my head. Tat tells you I am an early adapter and don't mind to pay for something I like. Its screen is smaller and darker screen than I would like. But the built quality and size is perfect for my taste. I also bought a custom high capacity battery and a nice leather case for it. However, AtomExec freezes quite bit, not fast enough even with 520Mhz because I have to hang another language platform in it to use in China. The company hardly put out any updates. If they had responded to any question, the answer was usually "No' or "We have not planned for it." or similar. I am fairly sure non-geek phone users will go for iPhone. Geeks will go for HTC's more advance phones. Of course there will be some left for Atom's family.
My Kaiser has 3 meg pixel camera which can take a picture of a business card and put the name, phone numbers .... , company name into the contact book directly. When I am lost, I turn on its GPS and walk 10 Meters and I know whether I am on the right track. I have the entire China map in it. It supports 8G microSD card and I put hours of MP3 in it. Its bluetooth support stereo.
Scrolling command dial, many hardware buttons, screen is bright, response is quick, good size storage memory. Qualcom 400Mhz CPU has dual-core, an ARM9 and ARM6 built-in. Plus, important for some folks, ton's of fans keep making it to have better and better features or looks.
Yes, there is something I don't like about it. It does not have an infrared port. Integrated mini plug does not allow charging and listening music at the same time while sitting at a desk (need to get a 3rd party adapter RMB25) and I don't need the sliding keyboard.
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There are only two guys, wonderful people in AtomExec circle who dedicated their time putting out two near-final WM6 ROM's but all other HTC phones have more ROM's than you want to count.
Again, if Atom V has the Kaiser hardware, I won't mind go for it immediately. But with its middle of the road hardware and past customers supporting records, unless its price are low enough, I would wait...
It is just my 2 cents, I respect your feeling toward your Atom!
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Not going to argue with you.
it is just my 2 cents, I respect your feeling toward your Atom!
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For a confessed tecno person a liitle bit upset you are trading in old currency and such a low denomination like your opinon should be worth at least a 1930's penny's value also like new technology...
if the atom v comes in at $835 (as have seen) it is cheap with the specs as i paid $1200 AUD for the original atom ... but will upgrade after seeing the short list of Atom V, the zinc II & touch cruise but from there who knows... might be happy like your mate in 5 years saying .. nah, why upgrade it does all i want it to do ... then you can roll your eyes at our buying for needs mentality and say get with the program ...
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Not going to argue with you. One of my friend is very happy running with his Windows 2000 and couldn't get him moved to XP even with a gun pointing at his head. Different strokes for different folks. But, being a Computer Junkie, I can guess what majority of the people like or dislike in gadgets and very seldom err.
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palah, everyone has his own opinion, but most of what jychan28 said is right. I am an O2 Atom user since Atom. However, O2 has a lousy after sales service. I am stuck up with Atom Exec at the moment (cause I spent my last cent on it ) and now waiting for good times to change this to an HTC device most probably Tytn-II or Touch Cruise and good riddance from O2.
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palah, everyone has his own opinion,
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Agree 100%... like yours my williness to buy again was based on own experience so after two good (not perfect) 02 products so will consider another... if i had your experience would more than likely feel similar... but also be aware HTC, 02, MWg, Nokia etc etc all produce dogs every now and then...
although the aotmV so beautiful ,i do not change the exec until it die~hehe
I would say yes, it is a downgrade in terms of speed and rom size on the Atrom V, but what about the hi-price paid for HTC devices. Also you can always expand it using sd cards, and personally i never like choking up the internal memory.
There are reviews on the Atom V already. And a video review on the 3D/Video performance.
If you ask me after watching the video, I'd rather trust the Atom V over the Touch Cruise.
Video Comparo Intel Xscale Vs Qualcomm
http://youtube.com/watch?v=1T4UY-8kG_w&feature=related
Reviews
http://www.tatsdiy.com/atomv/
http://www.hardwarezone.com/articles/view.php?cid=18&id=2497
http://asia.cnet.com/reviews/handhelds/0,3...2514760p,00.htm
battery still a prob?
would it be safe to assume that the battery life/performance has not improve, compared to its predecessors?
atom V can not use video call.. only 1 camera
Greetings,
I 'upgraded' - though I use the term loosely and don't wish to sound detrimental - from an Athena to a Nokia E90 communicator on the 13th February. My experience of different mobile operating systems over the past 12 months has been extensive (not to mention expensive) but for the most part i've drifted back and forth between Windows Mobile and Symbian.
There are comparisons available on the net of the two devices, but these are generally based on the Windows Mobile 5 factory install without tweaks, and - in the case of both phones - don't take into account the multitude of apps that people use for pleasure on their phones, and the tweaks which make the user experience all the nicer.
I decided to give a little rundown of what I miss about the Athena and a few summary comparisons between the Nokia E90 and the Athena based on real-world usage.
SIZE
Both devices are generally deemed large, though the Athena is positively Brobdingnagian in comparison to the E90 - which kind of resembles a Nokia N70 with a big jacket on!
FORM FACTOR AND CONSTRUCTION
Needn't go into too much depth about the Athena's construction here as I'm sure you're all familiar with it. My personal opinion is that its keyboard is a design catastrophy with mushy feedback, no backlight and an unadjustable screen/keyboard gradient. HOWEVER the minimalist styling of the device when the keyboard is removed is very pleasurable.
I thoroughly enjoyed texting and emailing with fingertouch and Touchflo in unison and miss this feature more than anything else.
The E90 uses a fully hardware-based input system since it doesn't have a touchscreen however the QWERTY keyboard is fabulous, with individual number keys and a plethora of shortcut buttons, including two customizable ones - AND a backlight.
When closed all the functions of the phone are still available albeit using a qvga display - making it act analogously to most regular Symbian smartphones.
Both handsets are of a very well-constructed metallic finish but all the weightier for it.
Personally I like a bit of weight to my phones.
The E90 gains a few extra points in my estimates for the fact that its main screen is protected in my pocket without the need for a case.
CALL HANDLING
The E90 offers more choices to the user as once folded it can be used as a normal (large) mobile phone. The Athena on the other hand only has a loudspeaker, which is fine if you're on your own but not so good when in company. Both devices can be used with handsfree kits - either in-car or earpieces and both have perfectly good voice command software available. Out of the box the E90 offers voice command functions such as dialing individual contacts by name without the need to program each number in.
The E90 wins here easily for me as it just offers so many options and therefore more convenience.
THE SCREEN
Despite the fact that it makes the Athena MASSIVE I do think the screen is bright, crisp and beautiful. The E90's screen is less bright but VERY readable outdoors.
The clarity and resolution of both displays is a breath of fresh air, however the Athena's is better for the long haul, particularly if you like E-books and word processing on the go.
It's nice to have a touchscreen, and I miss the feature with my E90, though only to a small degree as there are so many shortcut keys on the Nokia device that a touchscreen would be fairly redundant and affect readability in daylight.
USABILITY AND SPEED
The two devices are on a par to me, though out-of-box the E90 is simpler as closing down and switching between applications is facilitated by a hardware button.
There are a selection of free third-party applications for Windows Mobile which allow simple application switching functionaility from within the today screen.
Individual tastes dictate which OS you prefer. Personally I like both in their own way, though given its predominantly touchscreen based UI I don't think Windows Mobile is as finger friendly out-of-box as it should be, but this isn't an Athena issue per ce.
CONNECTIVITY
both devices offer WLAN, bluetooth, HSDPA and GPS. Signal strength is great on both devices, though I find that when I open the E90 to browse I sometimes lose my signal entirely, seemingly for no reason. I suspect the receiver is blocked by particular finger positions.
HSDPA is supported up to 3.6mbps on the E90 but only 1.8mps on the Athena; crucially though the E90 will only work on Edge or GPRS in the Americas as the US HSDPA bandwidth isn't supported.
The Athena offers USB host which enables memory sticks and USB HIDevices to be used. This feature is not offered on the E90, though its screen is probably too small for a mouse to be of any use anyway. I used the USB host feature occasionally but for me it was more of a party trick and I don't miss it.
The E90 has bluetooth 2.0 EDR, while the Athena has only 2.0
The Athena also has video output - a feature that I used rarely but nonetheless have missed on a couple of occasions - it's certainly handy for showing presentations and slideshows.
GPS is comparable on both devices. My E90 gets a lock within 5 seconds using A-GPS and I don't recall the Athena performing any better. The Athena wins here though because there is more compatible navigation software for the Windows Mobile platform.
WEB BROWSING
Both phones are great for viewing web content. The E90 takes the upper hand in terms of its width of 800 pixels versus the Athena's 640 but the Athena's larger screen makes content clearer and less strenuous on the eyes.
Neither phones support flash, though with FL3.0 due for release in the next E90 firmware update this will be fixed somewhat in the case of the Nokia handset.
Both Symbian and Windows mobile will be getting the flash and java friendly Skyfire browser, with Windows Mobile being the first. They will also be getting Opera Mobile 9.5. I have no experience with either of these browsers though, and can only say that I prefer the Safari browser in the E90 to either the Opera browser OR the Internet Explorer browser on the Athena, since it seems snappier and works with more of my oft-visited web pages.
HOWEVER I prefer opera mini to ALL of these.
VIDEO PLAYBACK
The Widescreen display of the E90 is more suited to the Hollywood aspect ratio, and also newer television broadcasts in 16:9. Combined with hardware acceleration and an adjustable viewing angle via the hinged screen the E90 wins here for me.
The larger screen of the Athena is a nice size for longer-term video playback, but I always had issues with lip-sync and jerkiness on the Athena unless optimising movies for the device.
CAMERA
Indisputably I prefer the E90 here. Although on paper the two devices' cameras are comparable the reality is that the E90's is snappier, sharper and produces more realistic colours. it also records video at VGA 30fps, which steals the show for me.
The Athena's camera is good for a Windows Mobile device though - the best I've seen - and I particularly like the depth it gives to black and white photography. Shame the shutter speed is so rubbish.
STORAGE
The Athena wins here with its 8GB microdrive versus the E90's....nothing. The E90 supports any size of Micro SDHC though and these are getting very cheap of late. In practice I used the microdrive very little as it took too long to copy things onto the Athena using either Activesync or WM5torage.
SOUND
Both devices perform very well with music playback: the E90 feels more portable though and is easier for one-handed operation. It is let down by a 2.5mm headphone jack instead of the 3.5mm standard seen on the Athena. The E90 has a radio which is handy on occasion, though it requires earphones to be plugged in at all times - not much use if you use bluetooth headphones.
BATTERY LIFE
No noticeable difference with either - I always end up recharging before the day is through!
SOFTWARE
Many people cite healthy software development and availability as a reason for Windows Mobile's flexibility, but in the past few weeks I've found some great free software for Symbian. Among my current favourites are:
Symella: A gnutella/limewire-style p2p filesharing client.
Symtorrent: I'm sure you can guess this one
Sportstracker: track your walks and runs via GPS with a full live rundown of speed, distance travelled and orientation, followed by a comprehensive report (which even tells you how many calories you've burnt off)
Google Maps: includes internal GPS support
software to enable the internal GPS to be used via bluetooth as a standalone GPS receiver
Opera Mini - goes without saying, but is more enjoyable on the E90 owing to the fact that Java is better integrated in Symbian OS.
Joikuspot: share your HSDPA over WLAN (as WMWIFIROUTER by Chainfire)
Windows Live Hotmail: integrated within the messaging application.
Nav4All: free navigation software.
EM tube: standalone youtube browser and flv downloader with a snappy and beautiful UI.
MP3editor: edit MP3s on-the-fly through your phone: edit tags, merge clips and save segments of songs to use as message and ringtones.
Only a month has gone by, so who knows if my experience will change. Maybe I'll end up going back to the Athena - who knows. I'd be interested to hear from people who have gone the other way round - E90 to Athena, and what their experience has been like.
Nice summary ! - and I find this interesting as I also "sidegraded" from an Athena (ameo) to an E90
( Here is a little background - I have always used ,and enjoyed using Nokia Communicators , from the 9110i to the E90 I have had them all - I have also been quite a fan of WM devices also , and , to be honest , the WM devices have been my favourites )
So , as soon as the E90 was announced , I had to have one ! Fortunately for me , I was unable to afford one initially , then , I was unable to find stock (due to the production halt ) - by the time I got my act together , they had released the stable version (Nov 07)
I was actually very happy with my Ameo in every way , except the obvious one ! , yep , thats right - it's "usability" as a telephone , I am not proud , and am quite happy to use the speakerphone most of the time - but occasionally I would be in a position where it was a bit of a pain
So it was innevitable I'd get an E90 , and I must admit I was very sceptical - I WANTED a new S80 communicator ! this S60 was for little chavs to have on their MOBILE PHONES as far as I was concerned - it wasn't a "proper" PDA OS , so I was a little worried as to how good an S60 Communicator would be - but in the end , I was quite impressed
It was not like I just "Dropped" the Ameo though - I would use the E90 for a few days , then I'd miss something about the Ameo - and switch back ,and Vice versa
It is only after 5 months now that I have settled on a device , and I am shamed to say (seeing as where we are !) that it is the E90 I have settled with - Don't get me wrong , I still use the Ameo occasionally , and when I do it still impresses me ! - it is just that the E90 is "easier" for my daily activities now
I do think , that maybe a Tytn II would be the ideal middle ground between the two devices ? and I may just get one next time I have a spare £400 + ( or if someone offered I'd be tempted to swap my Ameo for a Vario III etc ? )
I am in quite a favourable postion TBH - If the E90 died , I'd just go back to the Ameo , and if the Ameo died , I'd be happy to stick with the E90 !
leoni1980, I pretty much agree with all your findings!
How great is it that we have a choice between the two platforms ? As far as I see it , before the E90 , the top end WM devices (IMO ) had no competition at all ! Just as an aside , I bought a P990i (as Orange are knocking them out for £90 ) and it is Diabolical ! - How things have changed ! the P900 was a real contender once !
if your ameo is in good condition you can trade it at Cex for a vario 3 with a 12 month warranty and have an 18 quid credit note to boot. check out www.cex.co.uk. Alternatively you can buy one outright for £225.
Personally I wouldn't be happy with a QVGA screen though, and compared to the E90 the video and camera side of the Vario 3 leaves a lot to be desired. From experience of owning a Vario 2 - which i still have - I also prefer taking calls on the E90 as I have fewer dropped calls and inadvertant dial-outs. It's also quicker to send a quick one-handed text reply on the E90.
If gps is more of a concern then the Vario 3 might be a good swap for the Athena as you will still have the high-res browsing of the E90 at your disposal coupled with a more capable GPS unit (the Vario iii).
Each to their own as they say
Zoidster, you might be interested to know (if you don't already!) that a firmware update came out today with:
Flash video (youtube etc) playback
Web runtime
demand paging
a million tweaks and fixes.
The E90 has definitely stepped up a notch now....just gotta wait for Opera Mobile 9.5 which should be a lot faster than the Standard browser.
Unbelievable !!
I had been checking NSU on a daily basis for the last couple of weeks - then the last couple of days have been too busy ! - and here it is
Thanks for the heads up !
apparently it's been taken off the nsu again, not sure why or whether you got there in time
I missed it !
Tried a few product codes, then thought something must be up ....
Checked around and found out what has happened - A bit gutted , but a few people are reporting browser instablity - I supposed they must have pulled it for a reason
I suppose it's the waiting game again !
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I missed it !
Tried a few product codes, then thought something must be up ....
Checked around and found out what has happened - A bit gutted , but a few people are reporting browser instablity - I supposed they must have pulled it for a reason
I suppose it's the waiting game again !
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Ive not really had any problems as yet with the new one, but at least you know a new firmware is definitely on the horizon. Try opera mini 4.1 beta by the way, it now allows downloading from within the browser so you can download stuff you cant with the built in browser, such as unrecognised video types and torrent files (for symtorrent). There's also less text popup boxes and autocomplete. Be sure to set the font size to small for maximum screen real-estate. Just thought you might like to know
The phone we all know and love, is still very much in use even for its age, and still yet there isn't any flip windows phone on the market.
Its obvious by the popularity of this forum and the age of the phone that there is a market for an updated phone like ours.
Are HTC missing an oppoortunity
Is there any way we can let HTC know this.
Good point - but all they'd need to do is bring a version out with more memory and a WiFi connection - my ideal phone...
Good camera might help too
Jemma xx
Totally with you on this one!!!
I would pay top dollar for a new WM 6.1/6.5 Standard phone with the same format/size/shape as the HTC StrTrk but with all the modern specs (Faster Processor, more Rom/Ram, 3G, GPS, WiFi).
I would happily communicate this to HTC / Other OEM's if I thought it would be worth it.
Derek :>
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I was recently supplied an HTC Touch Diamond by my work. After a few weeks, it went back in the drawer. I've gone back to my S301 (running WM6.1) exclusively. It's biggest failing is network speed. If there were a new version with 3G and a GPS I would grab it quick smart.
I would buy the star trek II in a minute, Windows mobile 6.5, 3G, and SDHC card support. The perfect phone.
But most people want cheap or keyboards.
+1 for a revised version
I keep 2-3 spares at home from Ebay as replacements. Still one of the best all time form factors, keypad response, etc... for any Windows Mobile device I've ever used.
hey everyone
i've got chance to trade my htc diamond for tg01 but i sold it before(it was brand new) so i've got cash now. i see prices here around like 100euro for used tg01's so i wish to know if it's worth buyin it.
i'm usually hd2 guy(using it 1,5 year) so how do these devices compare(seeing pretty close specs). would you buy it again if you have choice?
hoping to hear first-hand
thanks
stirkac said:
hey everyone
i've got chance to trade my htc diamond for tg01 but i sold it before(it was brand new) so i've got cash now. i see prices here around like 100euro for used tg01's so i wish to know if it's worth buyin it.
i'm usually hd2 guy(using it 1,5 year) so how do these devices compare(seeing pretty close specs). would you buy it again if you have choice?
hoping to hear first-hand
thanks
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tg01 has near same hd2 specs, has a good resistiv 4,1" lcd. here is often the problem, devices around 100euro has scratches on PLASTIC screen. for 150 - 180 you can get a well-kept device and this is worth. with a good modified custom ROM is a good and fast WinMo device. ROM flashing is very quick and easy- this make a great fun.
you have a grat choice of different ROMs and Radios .i would buy it again (i have actuall 3x tg01, 1x very used, 1x good and 1x exellent)
pozdrav, miro
stirkac said:
hey everyone
i've got chance to trade my htc diamond for tg01 but i sold it before(it was brand new) so i've got cash now. i see prices here around like 100euro for used tg01's so i wish to know if it's worth buyin it.
i'm usually hd2 guy(using it 1,5 year) so how do these devices compare(seeing pretty close specs). would you buy it again if you have choice?
hoping to hear first-hand
thanks
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yes it is a great device to mess rouund with and it has loads of fun roms. it will go well with your hd2. both have nearly the same specs. get one!
thanks guys will ask for pics etc and then see. guy said he bought phone in germany 6m ago, so we'll see
i saw rom flashing.. damn that's simple, no hspl's and ****, like good old omnia i had before hd2. but this is pretty brickable right? i mean flashing hd2 with corrupted(or even empty-task29)rom results only stuck boot(and reflash as concequence)
stirkac said:
thanks guys will ask for pics etc and then see. guy said he bought phone in germany 6m ago, so we'll see
i saw rom flashing.. damn that's simple, no hspl's and ****, like good old omnia i had before hd2. but this is pretty brickable right? i mean flashing hd2 with corrupted(or even empty-task29)rom results only stuck boot(and reflash as concequence)
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yes it is so easy! iiit is simply dumping the ROM on the sd card, then click on an exe to flash!
there are loads of great roms on the forum too to suit your needs.
stirkac said:
hey everyone
i've got chance to trade my htc diamond for tg01 but i sold it before(it was brand new) so i've got cash now. i see prices here around like 100euro for used tg01's so i wish to know if it's worth buyin it.
i'm usually hd2 guy(using it 1,5 year) so how do these devices compare(seeing pretty close specs). would you buy it again if you have choice?
hoping to hear first-hand
thanks
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An excellent device in nearly all respects. As indicated above, is easy to flash and has opened up all sorts of opportunities for development both large and small.
Good resistive screen - one key reason I went for the TG01 - enables handwriting recognition and detailed pointing with the stylus when you want it, but also pretty sensitive for finger touch also when preferred (trick is setting screen sensitivity in registry, either manually to taste or via a generic .cab). Best of both worlds really, while the now almost ubiquitous capacitive screen is of course incapable of screen writing.
Main regrets are:
- Lack of a 3.5mm audio jack, but a suitable dongle works OK in the uUSB port
- Inability to charge while using the USB port for audio out
But both of these can be addressed by using a Bluetooth headset adapter, thus freeing the uUSB port for connection to an external device (eg. charging or perhaps an external hard drive, memory stick, etc.)
Definitely a very respectable piece of kit which continues to have significant potential
Best regards,
Kevin
kevinpwhite said:
An excellent device in nearly all respects. As indicated above, is easy to flash and has opened up all sorts of opportunities for development both large and small.
Good resistive screen - one key reason I went for the TG01 - enables handwriting recognition and detailed pointing with the stylus when you want it, but also pretty sensitive for finger touch also when preferred (trick is setting screen sensitivity in registry, either manually to taste or via a generic .cab). Best of both worlds really, while the now almost ubiquitous capacitive screen is of course incapable of screen writing.
Main regrets are:
- Lack of a 3.5mm audio jack, but a suitable dongle works OK in the uUSB port
- Inability to charge while using the USB port for audio out
But both of these can be addressed by using a Bluetooth headset adapter, thus freeing the uUSB port for connection to an external device (eg. charging or perhaps an external hard drive, memory stick, etc.)
Definitely a very respectable piece of kit which continues to have significant potential
Best regards,
Kevin
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thank you will see i got offer for nice white one and dr_strangetrick's black..hard to decide lol