I will be willing to answer any questions you have regarding wm6
my first impressions of it are pretty good... its running quite stable on my athena with apps installed
-spb mobile shell (does not work if autohide is disabled)
-spb brain evolution
-spb diary (installing this did significantly slow it down)
-wisbar advance beta 4
-resco explorer
-resco keyboard
-ae button plus
-wm5storage
-htc audio plugin
there are some more but im copying some files so i cant use the phone
intially its very very fast... much faster than wm5 noticbly so
It does seem to support native vga as in device info the resolution is listed at 640x480
i dont however see the terminal client for remote login... i could be lookin in the wrong place? i dunno
the included dialer skin / theme is quite nice
Everything seems to be working flawlessly i havent tried voip yet...
IE data speeds seem to be significantly faster for me... as compared to wm5
Ill be posting more later once i use it a bit more...
Mind to share Windows Media Player Skin
No issues found yet. The device seems *a lot* snappier, and indeed the GPS fix occurs a lot faster. I now also suddenly have a fix inhouse ... (allbeit near the window). In WM5 that simply would not happen.
boinger66 said:
It does seem to support native vga as in device info the resolution is listed at 640x480
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This resolution is listed in the WM5 too, does your device have smaller buttons, menus etc?
bydandie said:
This resolution is listed in the WM5 too, does your device have smaller buttons, menus etc?
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no the icon sizes seem the same but when I try to install a qvga skin it takes up the same portion when running previosly in wm5 with truevga mode
so I think it is truevga mode
also while typing the text prediciont works real well
Ergh, can I get rid of the horrible GREEN comm manager?
Other than that, its wm6 again.. Ahh, sigh of releif.
If you change the theme of your device to the windows default and then restart it should get rid of the horrible skin. For some reason mine kept the phone dialler skin until I had restarted again, but now it's not so green any more.
My first impressions are that the device itself runs very well with WM6. So far no real hassles. The only thing I have discovered is that TomTom 6 now thinks my device is a new device so it looks like WM6 has changed the hardware ID. I am still able to use my device. I had to manually active the maps though and the TomTom application for downloading maps and updates won't let me change my device to the 'new' one.
boinger66 said:
no the icon sizes seem the same but when I try to install a qvga skin it takes up the same portion when running previosly in wm5 with truevga mode
so I think it is truevga mode
also while typing the text prediciont works real well
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Yep, the buttons are large. I'm not quite with you with the other comment, could you post a screenshot? Have you managed to get the smaller homescreen top/bottom bars without installing VGA hack software?
Apart from that, everything is a lot faster, typing on the keyboard is more responsive and I'm happy, deffo worth it just for the proper email client alone.
bydandie said:
Yep, the buttons are large. I'm not quite with you with the other comment, could you post a screenshot? Have you managed to get the smaller homescreen top/bottom bars without installing VGA hack software?
Apart from that, everything is a lot faster, typing on the keyboard is more responsive and I'm happy, deffo worth it just for the proper email client alone.
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well for example if you use a plugin for a qvga device...
it wont fill the screen
it only takes the same amount of screen space as it would on a qvga device
ie about 1/4 of the screen (i would post a pic but i removed the software)
so that leads me to believe its vga
no VoIp
I can't find the option, did you find it?
boinger66 said:
well for example if you use a plugin for a qvga device...
it wont fill the screen
it only takes the same amount of screen space as it would on a qvga device
ie about 1/4 of the screen (i would post a pic but i removed the software)
so that leads me to believe its vga
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Hi boinger66,
My main reason for getting the athena is because I do a lot of reading & editing on-the-go mostly pdfs, docs, spreadsheets & powerpoint files. Can you tell me if using these programs with lots of words on-screen (PIE, pdfs,docs, xls) whether there is an increase in the real estate? Is there less scrolling etc, just like you'd see with the vga hacks? Also, are options available to change the resolutions on the fly? Does using the "High Res" option in PIE make a huge difference than before?
Many thanks for your help
Abe.
boinger66 said:
well for example if you use a plugin for a qvga device...
it wont fill the screen
it only takes the same amount of screen space as it would on a qvga device
ie about 1/4 of the screen (i would post a pic but i removed the software)
so that leads me to believe its vga
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If I'm not asking much, can you make a youtube?
Abram said:
Hi boinger66,
My main reason for getting the athena is because I do a lot of reading & editing on-the-go mostly pdfs, docs, spreadsheets & powerpoint files. Can you tell me if using these programs with lots of words on-screen (PIE, pdfs,docs, xls) whether there is an increase in the real estate? Is there less scrolling etc, just like you'd see with the vga hacks? Also, are options available to change the resolutions on the fly? Does using the "High Res" option in PIE make a huge difference than before?
Many thanks for your help
Abe.
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The IE high resolution and fit to screen do help, but it also makes the test pretty small. As an example, when displaying yahoo.com, and set to high resolution and fit to screen; the whole width of the web page is displayed.
hey can i install antena wm6.0 in o2 atom life....pls try to help me out...
pls send some sdp softwares to my mail [email protected]
Abram said:
Hi boinger66,
My main reason for getting the athena is because I do a lot of reading & editing on-the-go mostly pdfs, docs, spreadsheets & powerpoint files. Can you tell me if using these programs with lots of words on-screen (PIE, pdfs,docs, xls) whether there is an increase in the real estate? Is there less scrolling etc, just like you'd see with the vga hacks? Also, are options available to change the resolutions on the fly? Does using the "High Res" option in PIE make a huge difference than before?
Many thanks for your help
Abe.
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let me answer your questions....
1)there is no increase in real estate vs wm5 except in PIE
2)There no no option to change resolution on the fly
3)Yes it does (Pie and Hi-res)
these comments are based on my experience with uni and not athena but are valid for all VGA devices
Additionally there have been reports that VGA Hacks don't work with the later cores of wm6 (the release candidate)
faster than wm5. i had it on xda exec and when i changed to x7500 I kinda missed it but its back baby.
I was happy to see wm6 yesterday. i bought an iphone to see how it is and i was actually disappointed but wm6 made my day.
Thank you xda-dev.
Guys try using Mvr True VGA 1.2 it works..
i dont think you guys are understanding what i am saying
it is true vga
they just made the icons and buttons the same size for easy viewing
if you make smaller icons you get the realestate increase
for example if you install a qvga plug in it will not work...
it will take up the upper left corner of the screen only ... this can be observed by installing the htc audio manage today screen plugin
"Uni" VGA resolution file may work for Athena
I think some expert developers needs to extract the VGA<->QVGA toggle cab files or setup files from "Universal WM6 ROM" and give a try....
May be it will work for our Athena as well....
What do you guys say?
I was really hoping that new ROM is gonna solve this problem...and we will not have to use TrueVga type hacks...
WM6 is fast
Battery problem still here
The Battery problem is still here. You can see only 10, 20, 30, 40 % .... but never 94 %
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Hi All
I have been playing with QVGA and True VGA and there is just a too big Gap between the two
One is 2 Big and the other 2 Small
previously on my Jasjar I set the resolution to 144 (Slap Bam in the Middle)
The problem with this is all the VGA Stuff as well as the most of the icons is missing but ..... IT IS REALLY the best RES to work, not too smal or big the sliders etc also looks just right
Shouldn't we start looking at developing for 144 Resolution and get it over and done with once and for all
OK - It's been a long time since I've done this, where do we start!!!!!!!
VGA 128dpi
Hi Skillie,
144dpi resources are hard to get so it would be quite a lot of work. I can easily provide you with 128dpi resources because they are supported by Microsoft.
I will provide you with the necessay files within the next 2 days.
Cheers,
Tobias
VGA 128
This is the installation for VGA 128dpi. Give it a try. This one is for English devices. If you need any other language let me know.
If you don't need the video call function then you can fix the phone by setting the registry entry
HKLM\Security\Phone\Skin\Enabled=0 and perform a soft reset.
Have fun
PS: When I will find the time I will provide a little program to switch betwen 192dpi <-> 128dpi <-> 96dpi
VGA 128pdi
Sorry it seems that there was a problem with the upload ...
Yeah Man!!!!!!
This is so cool - did you do it all on your own?
I will test this for a while and let you know but the size is nether too big or small - This I can live with this for more than 10 minutes - look at that real-estate!!!!!
Thanks u are Tops!!!
VGA 128dpi
I'm doing PocketPC development device driver development since 2002, so it was not a big deal
There are some minor issues with some dialogs, like the wireless config dialog but I will fix that when I have some time. Actually I got the resources from the QVGA 320x320 emulator, which runs at 128dpi.
Cheers,
Tobias
I have been playing with it - my Phone works but the other usual stuff not
but i am so impressed with this I will actually keep it on this resolution
A lot of work has gone into fixing the the cosmetics i'm sure to find the right files for this as well
From now on I am recommending this to all who complain about big Icons \(or too smal ones )
Excellent Work !!!!!!!
I bet this will be part of WM7!!!!!!
Cheers
Frikkie
I'm gonna sound like a real noob now .... can i just install this new CAb and try it? If i dont like it uninstall and then reset and its gone? Dont wanna bugger up my Ameo as I have it working how i like apart from the screen space!
adamelphick said:
If i dont like it uninstall and then reset and its gone?
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If you uninstall it again you will be back on 192dpi (factory default).
Cheers,
Tobias
I tried this utility quickly. Initially seemed ok. Today screen looked good as did the program files.
However when I tried to start Excel, nothing seemed to happen at all except the machine was apparently stuck on something. It stopped doing anything beyond putting the word excel in the title bar. Still saw the 3 pocket office icons on the screen and that's all that happened. Had to manually stop Excel with the memory tool. Uninstalled the vga cab and all is back to normal, including a working Excel.
I tried this. Excel and word worked perfectly for me.
The backlight glider also has no problem. HTC homeplug is perfect.
Phone application works although it leaves a space at the bottom. Also,I can't see the dialed number if it is not one stored in the contact database. Any way it still beats VJBigphone hands down.
Comm manager is messed up still.
Standard keyboard are too small, as expected. However the Tengo keyboard is still prefect.
All icons on tasksbar are perfect. Today screen icons are completely perfect.
The beautiful standardcalculator skin is gone, replaced by ugly looking round lines for the keys. But this is no big deal. I don't need the standard calculator anyway. HiCalc is the way to go, and HiCalc works well, other than a little gap at the top.
This resolution is way way better IMHO than ozvga or mvrtrurvga. The size of the taskbar and bottom bar is a lot more pleasing, and blend in with the application better, since theit sizes does not contrast too sharply from the button sizes of traditional applicationapplications.
The only real problem is, my navigation software iGO my way is completely messed up. What a pity. I like this resolution very much,but would hate to have to uninstall then soft reset to drive. After driving,I would have to install then soft reset to get back to this.
Is it possible to have a program to toggle,at least to remove the need for installing and uninstalling? I suppose it is not possible to avoid the soft reset?
eaglesteve said:
Is it possible to have a program to toggle,at least to remove the need for installing and uninstalling? I suppose it is not possible to avoid the soft reset?
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I will provide you one this evening. BTW: TomTom for instance works perfectly with this resolution. iGO also doesn't work with 96dpi on VGA as far as I know. I'm sorry
Cheers,
Tobias
Just surprised why it takes so long for this utility to come out. Very very fantastic!
Good... at last something new to play with since the WM6 flashing.
This is definitely the resolution that brings the X7500 to its fullest rights
As mentioned earlier someone had issues with the Excell but I also had a issue but everything works now
Cool
I'm looking forward for the toggle to switch the display modes. Thanks for your huge contribution.
Does it work with WM6? To come back to factory resolution is it enough to uninstall it?
THX so much!
asci said:
Does it work with WM6? To come back to factory resolution is it enough to uninstall it?
THX so much!
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Yes it works on Wm5 & 6
and uninstalling it actually restores it
PS This looks awesome on the jasjar as well (But obvioulsy nowhere near the X7500
Regards
Skillie
THX so much...about phone skin? Should I use an appropriate skin to use the phone?
Great, but some icons missing
Hi, I love it, however some of the small icons in SPB Pocket Plus / Diary are missing... any chance for a fix?
http://blog.yam.com/leo2016/article/11682010
This is the original Link to a working TouchFlo (Alpha) I am currently testing on the Athena using VGA 96 DPI and the AP/PK's latest v2.0. I have included a zip folder of selected screen shots. I first found this link outside the forum, then learned that other devices on the forum are already working with it.
The program is installed via two CAB files, one installs Adobe FlashLite, the other is Szabi CubeLauncher. Perform a soft reset after loading. Launching is currently to a 'Home Screen' Start>Programs>CubeLaunch. The home background is a bit suggestive, so if you would like to avoid that image, copy the attached bg.jpg to Program Files>Szabi>CubeLauncher and over write the existing file. It can be any 240x320 jpg you prefer.
When you install the CubeLauncher, you also get a CubeConfig program which lets you customize any of the 5 faces of the 'Cube' which is relally a 5-sided prism or polyhedron. Screen shots of each face are included along with one transitional rotation captured.
TouchFlo has been on of the hottest topics around the forum with nearly every device scrambling to cook it into ROMS. Up to now, cooking was necessary as the base applications from the HTC Touch are dll driven. Since this application is Flash(tm) enabled, there is no need for booting with the dll's.
Launching from the home screen is much like the HTC Touch, with an UPWARDS swipe of the finger from the bottom or middle part of the screen. Sides are rotated forward and back with sideways swipes as you would intuitively expect. You can also open and close the cube with a single stylus poke in the bottom center of the screen. Close from the home screen by touching the lower right signal bar.
The first page is a 6 application program launcher followed by a twelve slot phone contacts photo gallery on page two. Page three is a 6 app media page while page four is primarily for MS Office Apps. Page five is yours to play with.
The developer's web site is in Chinese, but the translation indicates that trials of the demo and feedback are welcomed. You can download the demo at the following Link: Http://rapidshare.com/files/54065589/Szabi-CubeLauncherICON.rar
It is not a finished work (yet) but it is getting close. Please provide your thoughts and interest so the the Project Team can assess wether or not to work on this for our devices. As you will see, we can easily do more with VGA quality backgrounds and icons, but the basics are definitely there.
Kind Regards to the Developer
guau! looks very nice! thanks bro!!!!
Nice find...
Hi raskell.
Excellent find! We'll look into this...for sure.
raskell said:
http://blog.yam.com/leo2016/article/11682010
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The home background is a bit suggestive, so if you would like to avoid that image, copy the attached bg.jpg to Program Files>Szabi>CubeLauncher and over write the existing file. It can be any 240x320 jpg you prefer.
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I prefer the original one... hmmmm
The program... Great finding.... the program... yes, and the wallpaper.
mackaby007 said:
Hi raskell.
Excellent find! We'll look into this...for sure.
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yes we will. nice find
Any idea if this works at 128Dpi ? My eyesight isn't what it used to be (says he leaning on his zimmer frame)
Nice find, thanks for sharing.
Pawel062 said:
yes we will. nice find
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Did you try?
I would like if it is compatible with ROM Black Touch AP2
If you need not change the dpi i am all up for it!
would someone be super kind and put on a direct link or something else than rapid share, coz i can't use that from my company
Installed on my X7500 WM6 ITA with 96dpi setting, here they are my considerations:
1. Graphic should be improved with an appropriate resolution of images used to build the interface. (I hope I can do it by maself)
2. Scrolling works well even if touching feedback should be more reactive on striping finger over display
3. Not all the applications link work. I hope I can customize by myself
4. Home screen works fine, images resolution apart.
Nothing I can say about RAM and battery usage...still testing it.
Confucious said:
Any idea if this works at 128Dpi ? My eyesight isn't what it used to be (says he leaning on his zimmer frame)
Nice find, thanks for sharing.
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Tested with 128 DPI Settings and it looks and works the same, regardless of the font. Some of the demo apps are not set to the correct file links, however using the CubeConfig module, this is easily corrected. I just went through each screen and tested what worked an what didn't, then ran the CubeConfig and changed the broken links. Again, this is an (Alpha Demo) but it is working!
Bother! Was hoping you would say it didn't work
I really should know better than to install beta software, let alone alpha!
Can I resist trying it......
probably not !
Thanks
raskell said:
Tested with 128 DPI Settings and it looks and works the same, regardless of the font. Some of the demo apps are not set to the correct file links, however using the CubeConfig module, this is easily corrected. I just went through each screen and tested what worked an what didn't, then ran the CubeConfig and changed the broken links. Again, this is an (Alpha Demo) but it is working!
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Tested with 192 DPI settings and it looks and works the same...
Does it work in WM5?
satanisme said:
Does it work in WM5?
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Everything I have seen and know about this, YES, it should work fine in WM5. I do not have a WM5 device configured at present so I haven't tested it there. If you do test it, report back please so others can know this as well.
very nice app, with lots of potential,
I just get " Unexpected error in CubeLaunch.exe"
All I have installed is the Szabi CubeLauncherICONB.cab - do i need to install somethoing else?
Confucious said:
I just get " Unexpected error in CubeLaunch.exe"
All I have installed is the Szabi CubeLauncherICONB.cab - do i need to install somethoing else?
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yes flashlite
when you reset a notify icon will appear bottom right click it too see the cube.
oh btw the original developer is on XDA
this thread looks very promising.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=328010
Whenever I hit the icon I get a "Not supported Landscape mode yet;"
I have tried to uninstall then reinstall but still get the same message. Any ideas? Using the X7500 on 128dpi. Thanks
Hello all,
I am about to get my mitts on an Ameo with Project Dual on and like using RealVGA on my Uni so looking forward to it on the big screen however as we all know some progs just will not take to working under VGA. In another thread that I started in Hack & Dev hacking in the hires string using reshacker was suggested but some programs still use QVGA for the touchscreen mapping so all the inputs are somewhere up in one corner or another for example.
My idea is this, would it be possible to have a wrapper or something similar that forces the screen back to 192dpi while running a non VGA happy app then hops back to 96dpi when you exit. This could help with a lot of apps from some of the GPS stuff to old games that people still like to play.
Is this possible or am I asking to much of the Windows Mobile platform
unfortunatly when changing the resolution, it has to soft reset, so I dont think this would be possible.
Another possible solution?
OK if we can't change the screens DPI on the go another thought is this . . .
At present some apps mainly games (although there must be a few applications like GPS or such with similar issues) can display the graphics at fullscreen 96dpi but the touchscreen only accepts input from the top left of your screen which is basically a QVGA 320x240 sized box as they were only ever programmed for that type of screen, I have attached a quick layout drawing to give the idea (the same thing would happen if the app is in portrait as well)
This leads to the problem that you have to guess where everything is in relation to the display which is not much use really, my idea is if we could hijack the input on the screen and translate the 96dpi x,y co-ords to the apps native 192dpi co-ords (halfing them should work I guess) so as far as the app is concerned it's back on a regular screen and everyone wins
If this is a possible way round it we just need a program similar to Hou Ming's (a.k.a. the Mad Programmer) Force-Hires tool to list which apps we want to fix and when it runs away we go
Hey check it out man
this rom rocks
it has vga resolution for text
and qvga resolution for icons
heres the link
http://rapidshare.com/files/75370255/RUU_Athena_TMO_UK_2.35.110.4_1.50.00.00_Ship.exe
enjoy
How about posting some screens for various applications?
right away sir
Thanks for posting the screens.
I guess it's a personal thing, but I prefer to view the device in 128dpi, with wktask, with a 3D glassy top and bottom bar, with both date and time on the taskbar of every screen, just to list some of the main things I would tailor.
Hey, whatever appeal to you, enjoy your device
U can always customize the view and 128dpi can be installed
i'm confused with your screenshots.
are simply qvga, non?
nittin_sp said:
Hey check it out man
this rom rocks
it has vga resolution for text
and qvga resolution for icons
heres the link
http://rapidshare.com/files/75370255/RUU_Athena_TMO_UK_2.35.110.4_1.50.00.00_Ship.exe
enjoy
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maybe means vga screen res but qvga is being displayed but that is a given.?
hmm tmobile did a nice edit there. still hate the pink though
Pawel062 said:
hmm tmobile did a nice edit there. still hate the pink though
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I love changing the color of my theme every now and then. One of the quickest ways of to use tweaks2k2. It gives you the 3d glassy look. Depending on my mood, I like to switch between blue, green, black, etc. Be very careful though when you use tweak2k2. Don't let it trigger any soft reset(always use stylus into the hole method) or else you may be stuck on primary splash and you'll be forced to hard reset.
thanx for the info and warning. i do too. currently running 192dpi, snapvue, and snavue tsk on my rom. will probably go back to setup u see in dual screenies when i get realvga cooked back into rom im currently running.
Does this rom contain the latest Opera? That's the only reason I see to upgrade to this. Font size looks like it does when you change the screen settings to a smaller font on the 'screen' menu. I assume you can change the pink theme with the windows standard.
some clarrification
the opera version is build 8.65(2627)
the rom is overall very fast
the text resolution is vga like and we can get rid of the cuteiii pink colour.
the ap3 dual rom is superior in many aspects but this rom is good for all those who want a clean rom without any addons.
hey powell can u please post a lite addition of your touch dual rom it would be great
perhaps I also forgot to mention that this rom solves the micro drive issue in ameo.
Powell can u please give add ons seperately.
Leoni,
Why not try out this Opera and see if you like it better?
eaglesteve said:
Leoni,
Why not try out this Opera and see if you like it better?
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Ok, ive begun testing this ROM Eaglesteve and here are my observations thus far:
Opera is identical to the others, although a nice resolution mod has been done with the url bar, making it smaller and neater than the versions seen in other ROMS. there is no immediate reference to 'opera' within the application in that it is referred to as 'web n walk' in the start menu, and the homepage is www.t-mobilefavourites.co.uk. for those wishing to use t-mobile's tv service this functionality is now restored for wm6.
on the whole i feel that the download and render time with this version of Opera is the slowest i've seen. there is no flash support and this is NOT the latest Opera build (or anywhere near). this indicates that HTC have a limited deal with Opera which does not include the more recent version - no free upgrade then.
I found both browsers to be unusually slow, even after various tweaks.
T-mobile have removed Windows Live from this ROM.
They have included (the completely pointless) F-Secure Antivirus, which annoyingly pops up an installation window upon every soft reset.
The 'H'SDPA icon is not enables by default for some unknown reason. this is surely a step backwards from the old T-Mobile ROM.
t-mobile sounds are preset by default. they are horrendous.
some of the 'band' settings have been removed in line with what's available in western europe.
dialpad is a modified pink|grey, as is the comms screen.
there is a t-mobile home plugin similar to htc's, but with 'web n walk' last dialled, file explorer and SIM manager.
this ROM seems more sluggish than touch dual overall, and is missing a great deal of decent features that id gotten used to with Touch.
will try a hard reset with no installed t-mobile CABs and report back
Thanks for the quick feedback.
You mentioned that the address bar is smaller. This is interesting. Could you post a screen shot on that?
eaglesteve said:
Thanks for the quick feedback.
You mentioned that the address bar is smaller. This is interesting. Could you post a screen shot on that?
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sorry eaglesteve i dont have the screenshot utility that comes with touch, otherwise id send you a screenshot.
update though: this ROM is an absolute dog. it's slooooow, web pages dont load up very fast and for the first time in ages im getting the "this page cannot be found" dialogue in p.i.e. on random occasions. ive also had opera randomly shut down on me twice.
can someone else try this ROM and tell me im not mistaken? the only apps ive installed are wktask, fingertouch and htc home
so far i can't believe t-mobile have unleashed a pile of crap like this on the public. its bad enough that they make their handsets look so rubbish.
one last set of points to t-mobile:
we DONT need antivirus. really.
we DONT need to be asked if we're sure we want to go online/sure we want to close the browser.
we dont like pink today screens and phones with pink bits on them
we DO want you to employ Pawel and the team to develop decent ROMs in future.
Is this ROM the standard WM6 ROM provided by T Mobile to work on the Ameo? The quality is very different from those provided by Dopod.
Just switched back to the Touch Dual ROM.
I encourage anyone Interested in it to avoid this ROM at all costs except for warranty purposes. Glitchy, slow, overbranded, RUBBISH.
YUK.
leoni1980 said:
Just switched back to the Touch Dual ROM.
I encourage anyone Interested in it to avoid this ROM at all costs except for warranty purposes. Glitchy, slow, overbranded, RUBBISH.
YUK.
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lol nice.
to the poster asking about vanilla: i could remove everything except pk programs 3.0(task manager+regedit and screenshot app) and leave in tsk, welcomhead, and all the reg edits i have done BUT the available space on the device with or without dual will remain the same.
its not worth it.
use file explorer and go into windows/start menu/programs and removed whatever u dont use. it will clean up the program's folder and u can go ahead and do same with system folder.
it will look clean that way and if u decide u want to use a app that i cooked in you just add shorcut back in. also for battery/qwerty menu just go ahead and remove the shortcuts for those from windows/startup and those are gone.
switch to a different tsk like says windows mobile default and u look vanilla. for say the control panel apps just ignore or remove from windows folder.
Ur rom looks vanilla and it will have same space as a vanilla rom. also u can go ahead after the black tsk is displayed and soft reset device to not install extended rom stuff and reduce apps installed.
@leoni
T Mobile has put its customisations, so if u check opera, the proxy is enabled.
If u remove the proxy all work well.
Results are better, when one flashes only OS.nb converted to NBH and use, so u do not have any T Mobile Crap installed
Actually this is a modifying thread for TF2D (TouchFlo 2D)! So maybe some experts can help and make this into VGA compatible then all the Athena users can use this. BTW i have this installed on my device and it works like a charm! But the problem is that it takes only 1/4 of the screen cause its QVGA... I asked Herg (the one who released this as a beta) and he told me that we have to :
1.Dissassemble and reassemble the exe files
2.Making pictures 2 times bigger (actually we can use diamond so we can skip this step)
3.Changin some xml files.
Now I am asking all you guys that can do this to help us and let Athena users taste this thing...
All the credits go to yourselves and definitely Athena users and me appreciate what you'll do for us.
More info:
BETA XDA_TEAM Manilla2D DO IT YOURSELF W/CABS
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=425694
Manilla 2D - Multicolor Skins, clocks and wallpapers
Cheers, Hirad.
no one interested in this?! c'mon guys and gals... do smth... plz
Hi, I am interested! i have been hunting around to find plug-in for my today screen, finally touchflo 2D has been hacked but it does not fit on my screen. I will look forward to your released!
i am interesting in it ,but i really don't know how to modify this software,i ever installed the touchflo3D in my Athena,but it worked so slowly that i couldn't accept.
so i will look forward to ur released either.
I myse;f really dont know how to mod the exe and dll files but I know what are the tools and (maybe) the steps... but I can really help with graphic files and other stuff but I dont know programming and other stuff.... Need some experts, who can play with exe files
Help
Hi Guys, as an x7510 owner I would like to see touchflo 2d ported to vga too and I may help with it too, right now I have some work to finish but hopefully in a few days I should be able to have a look on things till then could someone get me a "build" or "zip" that contains the original Diamond pictures (or point me to one) as those all already at vga mode so why redo something that already exists and then I could focus on the other changes.
If someone already picked up this work and got to somewhere please let me know so we combine our forces
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=427531
suggests editing the XML will allow different screen sizes.
I created a new thread on this subject which should cover this request too, please post your comments there as it is not just HTC Athena but all HTC VGA devices should work with it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=429224
tnx brother... great job
any luck havin this on our big x7501 screen?
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any luck havin this on our big x7501 screen?
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read the last thread linked to it's very easy to do.
fards said:
read the last thread linked to it's very easy to do.
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Thanks but ther'er too many links in this thread and this is what makes it confusin for beginners like me what i need is a direct link to download the files and simple instructions to follow if there's any copyin files to windows directory or wherever ..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=429224
CeMeTeRy said:
Thanks but ther'er too many links in this thread and this is what makes it confusin for beginners like me what i need is a direct link to download the files and simple instructions to follow if there's any copyin files to windows directory or wherever ..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=429224
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It is very simple, go to the last thread linked, there is a post there that tells you what to do, you download the original m2d, whatever the lastest version is. then after installing you overwrite the files with the VGA ones to the windows folder..
I've just re-read the topic and it makes sense to me.
It's very easy to do.
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Installations / Download
To install please follow the steps found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=398173 <--- basically get the last file listed and install it from here, otherwise the original poster will have to redo is post everytime the other thread is updated.
and after you have everything up and running (even in the little left corner of your screen but working) then go to "Start->Settings->Today->Items" and uncheck "TouchFlo" press OK then download this zip file and extract the content to \Windows\ directory on your device.
TouchFlo2D VGA - Ver. 0.1.3
http://rapidshare.com/files/15138227...0.1.3.zip.html
Then go back to "Start->Settings->Today->Items" and check "TouchFlo" again press ok and the full resolution TouchFlo should appear.
IMPORTANT: It seems with the latest Manila2d release (1.00...) the files are installed in read only state so you won't be able to overwrite the files unless you remove the Read only state from the files which are all files in \Windows directory starting with HH_..... and HTCHomeSettings.xml and then all files in \Windows\ManilaGFX
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You need a proper file program, the one that's built into windows mobile is pants. It can't overwrite files in rom or read only.
I'm presuming since you have an athena you know something about windows mobile, these aren't novice devices, if you don't then I'd really really advise you to do some reading.
For the sake of ease, download total commander, it's free and very powerful, search the forum using the search at the top and you'll find millions of links to it.
In /windows folder after installing the original m2d (not the VGA version) using total commander, select SHOW>select/unselect files> type in hh* and everything beginning with those will appear selected, While they are selected (highlighted) press FILE>properties and untick the readonly box.
Do the same to all the files in /windows/manillagfx
Now open where ever you saved the vga files and copy the entire lot across to windows, and accept overwrite all
@fards thx a lot.. very detailed description so even I managed to install manila 2d
TF2D Feedback
Moderator - I am posting here as my comments are based on use on X7501 with factory ROM, if this is an incorrect place please mirror to appropriate section - there are too many to choose from!
First impression on update 20 - EXCELLENT WORK EVERYONE!
Overall device performce only slightly reduced, all programs work as before, touchflo finger slider on bottom works very smoothly.
The Home, People, Messages, Mail, Weather, Maps Search, Settings and Programs Tabs ALL work Perfectly!
Feedback for next update on Tabs.
Internet - Can a GUI selection of browser be incorporated so registry edit is not necessary to change default browser? So one can choose IE, factory Opera or other.
Photos and Videos - Pictures do not flip with finger swipe & picture takes up one quarter of frame
Audio Manager - Library and Player screen uses only top left quarter of screen, the rest is scrambled static in library and black in player. In Library, the text does not refresh in static area, and piles up into solid bar. Would it be easier (or possible) to simply link to media player 10 like HTC Home, get rid of audio manager, then redundant software is not needed?
With these updates it would work perfectly as if OEM.
Are you running successfully in Landscape?
Hi anx7501. I have a x7510 and have also loaded the Manila ver 20 and then pijulius TouchFlo for VGA devices over the top. However, I have had limited success in getting the screen to show as I would like in landscape.
Beacuse of the size of the clock and lack of space in landscape I've been trying to recode the HTCHomeSettings.xml so that Alarm, Call History and Calendar will all continue to show in Portrait, but only Calendar shows in Landscape leaving room for the Tabs along the bottom. I have atempted to do that by editing the lines for Alarm and Call History by inserting zeros thus: <Property name="IDHMWG_MISSEDCALLBTN_RECT" id="30" value="24,304,456,364, 0,0,0,0" /> but alas it is not working.
Have you managed to "crack the code" on this, or come up with an alternative solution - maybe a smaller clock?
Also have you found any alternative skins that will brighten up the device from the basic black?
Finally for some reason my Brightness slider is stuck in the left position. I don't remember this being the case when I had Manila ver 17 loaded. Does your slider work OK?
Hi robjhellis,
Regarding the landscape issue, because this was created for device like diamond with puny screen, it was intended for portrait so I haven't bothered to play with it, also landscape requires an extensive redraw in addition to resizing - I just don't have the time. Though someone in another thread has already resized M2D to work in landscape; however, I don't remember if it was for QVGA or VGA, when I find it again I will post the link here.
Try looking at this for landscape mode.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=436753&highlight=m2d+landscape
I have a Mugen Power 2400 mha battery which lasts a full day, sometimes a little more, with factory ROM. With M2D installed, it chewed through the battery in half a day so for that reason I didn't adjust the brightness and left it alone. The programs I concentrated on were graphic intensive like Adobe reader and dwf viewer. After a few days of only half-day use between recharge, I hard reset and went back to HTC-Home VGA which provides similar tabs (weather, programs), dosen't chew through the battery and works in landscape. I think that because of the difference between devices with factory TF2D - ours has to max out CPU & GPU to operate smooth killing the battery. Short of creating new video driver specifically for our ATI chip, I don't think there's a workaround - btw how's your battery life?
There is a thread in Development and Hacking with M2D skins posted, try there and see if you find something you like.
I really like what I saw and admire the work evryone did, but I rely on my advantage heavily and didn't want to have to recharge or change battery at lunch - sadly I had to drop it. Hope you had/have better luck with yours.
Thanks for your follow-up. I discoverd that the Brightness slider issue was a known bug for vers. 20 & 21 of manila. A fix patch has been created and appended to post 2 (the fixes post) on the manila thread.
As for mbarvian's work on landscape, whilst its great work it does not appear to do anything for us on the VGA advantage/athena. With nthe keyboard attached I can use the left and right arrow keys to move between pages so that is a definate work around to not havig the tabs showing.
hey do you guys know how to install touch flo on the att 8125