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Please dont flame me. I have done alot of reading ... so much so that I think I have confused myself. I dont need step by steps how to do it ... I just need to know if what I am reading is correct or not.
I installed the new ROM and here is my info.
ROM 2.06.502.3
Radio 1.16.00.00
IPL - 1.00
SPL - 1.09
From there I did the v3 SIM & CID Unlocker ... which I did before but did again because I was not sure if it would stick.
All I want to do is upgrade the radio ... I drop alot of calls and I am hoping that 1.27.00.00 helps.
To do this, would I need to run the program to take my BL v. to 1.01 MFG from 1.09, then upgrade to 1.04. Then I can install a new radio ROM? Or is there something else that is keeping me from doing it.
I am sorry and I promise not to ask anymore noob questions. I just want to make sure I fully understand.
Thanks guys.
Kangle
BTW, I think the new ROM version is great. My 8525 is running better than ever (faster) and battery life is WAY better than it was before. I strongly recommend it. Disable the startup animation though! It sucks and it messes up your volume.
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Please, anyone. I really appreciate it.
Well, I am by far no expert on this (and scared of bricking my device) ... so what I did was everything you described ... then I re-installed the new Cingular ROM ... thereby upgrading my radio to 1.33.31.00.
Had I foresight, I would have used the unlocker before upgrading to the new Cinguar ROM (so I would not have to install it twice)...live and learn.
I did not bother with the steps you described necessary to install the 1.27 radio ...figuring I could live with 1.33.31.00
sorry, I misread your post.
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You got radio 1.16 which has radiobl 107, so go ahead and grab a copy of the 1.27 radiorom and run the update.
I read that I need to have BL 1.04 to upgrade the radio.
I currently have BL 1.09. So the only way I can go back to 1.04 is by going to imei-check.co.uk and paying for it right?
Thanks,
Kangle
why do you want 1.27 instead of 1.33?
so, no one answered my prior question ... I realize the Radio ROMs are subjective (and discussed ad naseum in various places on this forum) but I am still looking for a succinct summary (if there is one) as to why I would tinker with my Radio ROM to get off of 1.33 and maybe down to 1.27 or some other.
Are there known and significant issues with 1.33?
Anyone?
I really dont know.
Most of the people I see on the forum are on 1.27.00.
I thought I read somewhere that it seemed to work well for most people, although I do not know why 1.33 wouldnt be just as good. Im still a noob.
If anybody can confirm what I am thinking regarding what I need to do, I would greatly appreciate it.
Thanks,
Kangle
well, 1.33 is working fine for me... and it certainly would be *easier* for you just to re-flash the new cingular rom again (now that you are sim unlocked and super cid) ... that is what I did, and it worked fine. [and candidly, I was to scared of the many steps I was going to need to take to otherwise downgrade my SPL in order to change my Radio]
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so, no one answered my prior question ... I realize the Radio ROMs are subjective (and discussed ad naseum in various places on this forum) but I am still looking for a succinct summary (if there is one) as to why I would tinker with my Radio ROM to get off of 1.33 and maybe down to 1.27 or some other.
Are there known and significant issues with 1.33?
Anyone?
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No issues with 1.33. The only advantage of the 1.27 radio is that it uses radio bootloader (RBL) 1.007, whereas Radio 1.33 has RBL 1.008. The difference is that you can run downgrades on 1.27, but not on 1.33.
The only reason that you might want to downgrade is so that you may flash a trinity Radio if they manage to get the GPS going, which seems unlikely without a hardware mod. So unless you plan on opening up your Hermes at some stage to do some surgery, you don't need to downgrade the radio stack.
OMG!!! T-Mobile have released Official WM6 ROMS UK NE DE AT!!!
Thread
There are a lot of people who keep asking for T-Mobile ROMs I was one of them. So this morning after someone else asking I have decided to post this in the hope it can be referred to!
CURRENTLY AVAILABLE DUMPED T-Mobile ROMs
UK ROM
UK ROM - With CustomRUU v4.3 felt kind so updated it for you all!
UK ROM - Windows Mobile 6 Test 3.60 - Radio 1.50
DUTCH ROM
CROATIAN ROM
GERMAN ROM
Edit from Sleuth255: We are not allowed to host ROMs here. Please post to rapidshare or some other site then link. I must remove these ROMs from our FTP due to an edict from m$ legal. Sorry
The UK one appears to have been built however I have not tested it, if someone has used it in the past please let me know.
I have not checked any of the others, if people have used them and they are built please contact me and I shall update this accordingly.
Please can someone update the Wiki for the UK ROM, thanks.
CURRENTLY AVAILABLE SHIPPED T-Mobile ROMs
HUNGARIAN
GERMAN
SHIPPED ROMS HERE
If there are anymore T-Mobile Shipped ROMS I have not mentioned please msg me and I will update accordingly.
Any chance of this thread being sticked?
Thanks, I think this is very helpfull.
Great! Always usefull when you need to restore your device
Has anyone tested if any of these ROMs flash properly.. for me it would be the Dutchversion then... But I can not test right now can not have my phone broken down. Once Kaizer is out I am going to buy that one and then I could test, but would be nice to know if these dumped ROMs work
Unfortunately I do not know, I haven't even tested the UK version as I am not sure if it will work, however I did update the RUU.
Shame we cannot emulate the firmware install!
The T-Mob UK dumped ROM isn't quite right - the w'n'w home page doesn't work properly.
Minor thing but, one of the first things I tested
I dumped my friends ROM the other day. I'm currently working on building it and testing it - will let you know when it's done
Cheers,
Smiffy.
Hmmm...humble pie - lovely
Well, after flashing the ROM i dumped the other day, I had exactly the same thing with IE.
It took me about 3 seconds to realise it must be because the extROM had been flashed by one of the WM6 ROMs I had been using in the past.
As it turns out, this is the case so I can confirm that if you have the same issue, download the extROM dumo from the wiki (from this page) and delete the current contents of your extROM and copy the downloaded one back to it. Hard reset, and voila - everything back the way T-Mobile shipped (apart from Radio ROM, IPL\SPL etc...) but WTH ;-)
Smiffy.
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As it turns out, this is the case so I can confirm that if you have the same issue, download the extROM dumo from the wiki (from this page) and delete the current contents of your extROM and copy the downloaded one back to it. Hard reset, and voila - everything back the way T-Mobile shipped (apart from Radio ROM, IPL\SPL etc...) but WTH ;-)
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How can I do that?
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How can I do that?
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Trapper,
I assume you mean how can you put the correct Extended ROM onto your device? If I understand this correctly, the ROMs mentioned in Jygar's first post are the original main ROM but the Extended ROM is in fact from a Windows Mobile 6 ROM (I do not believe that flashing a ROM will affect the Extended ROM - the problem is that the re-flashed (downgraded) WM5 ROM is starting the Extended ROM installation after the basic OS install (as normal) but that Extended ROM is still a WM6 one.
The page that is linked to includes many Extended ROMs from many countries and devices - one of them an original T-Mobile ROM (here) and if you were to unlock/unhide and mount your Extended ROM you would be able to delete the incorrect (WM6) ones and then paste in these original Extended ROM files.
The Extended ROM files are executed during a hard reset after the OS has been installed - details of how this works are within this forum. I am not sure that you need to do a hard reset but it all depends on whether you stopped the device completing a normal (complete) install. After a hard reset the device will start to execute the Extended ROM files/.cabs and if you stop that with a soft reset as soon as it starts then the device will re-boot with a basic WM build (with no service provider fixes/updates/customisations/settings)
If this is all explaining what you already know then sorry but your question posted is rather open... Hope this helps
ExtROM.nb attached Just put it into an NBH and flash
@tony.wheeler - What was the original radio version of your Vario II? I'm in the process of creating a complete upgrade to restore UK MDA Vario II's to their 'out of the box' state with the original ROMs (IPL, SPL, MainSplash, SubSplash, OS, Radio ExtROM)
Phil
eek, think it was 1.03?
[edit]Have done a search it appears it is 1.05!
only problem is this is HTC_BOOT 0106 and most ppl are now patched to 0108 so I would have thought we cannot downgrade our radio rom.
TBH 1.43 is the best radio rom out and i cannot say a bad word against it. I have only eva updated my radio rom and since the radio update have not had a problem with the origional t-mob os.
Hehe, yeah i found out it was 1.05 as well. Oh well, I'll use 1.07 in my NBH. I now have a complete ROM backup (IPL, SPL, GSM, OS, MainSplash, SubSplash, ExtROM) to revert back to should anything ever happen which means I would need to claim on the warranty.
Phil
The dutch rom seems to be in *.raw files. How can i open of re compile it?
jm012a9749 can you upload it?
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The dutch rom seems to be in *.raw files. How can i open of re compile it?
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Same question here.
Does anyone know how to use the .raw files...?
as its all t-mobile users on this thread, what radios are people finding the best? UK
Read, read, read...
wensing said:
Same question here.
Does anyone know how to use the .raw files...?
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http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_HowtoReconstruct
fil said:
as its all t-mobile users on this thread, what radios are people finding the best? UK
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I keep loosing connection with the 1.50 that came with the WM6 test ROM, and also falling down to GSM even though I'm in a good 3G reception area.
Didn't seem to notice these problems before. I was running Radio 1.48 onto of the old radio.
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Hehe, yeah i found out it was 1.05 as well. Oh well, I'll use 1.07 in my NBH. I now have a complete ROM backup (IPL, SPL, GSM, OS, MainSplash, SubSplash, ExtROM) to revert back to should anything ever happen which means I would need to claim on the warranty.
Phil
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Any chance of you posting this backup ROM? There are many of us who would be very keen to have this as a safety net for when we have to return our Vario 2s under warranty.
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I keep loosing connection with the 1.50 that came with the WM6 test ROM, and also falling down to GSM even though I'm in a good 3G reception area.
Didn't seem to notice these problems before. I was running Radio 1.48 onto of the old radio.
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I too am running with Radio 1.50, after a short-lived update to WM6. I have had no problems at all with 2g or 3g, steady as a rock.
I've spent the last few days reading wikis, guides and threads about upgrading my Tytn, but I still have a few questions:
This guide describes a method for preventing hard-SPL from being overwritten with another bootloader. If I understand it correctly, this is only a problem with original shipped ROMs, and not with the ROMs cooked by the people here. Is this correct? Can I upgrade with any of the custom ROMs here without worrying about overwriting the bootloader?
Are the radio ROMs country or region specific or can I use any radio ROM from all over the planet?
Can I run into any problems if I try to downgrade the radio ROM? If I remember correctly, there was a a lot of trouble with this in the old days when I played around with the ROMs on my Wallaby (and I still had the future ahead of me).
Olipro wrote HardSPL so that it wouldnt allow itself to be overwritten, as far as i know you can overwrite HardSPL by using SSPL (the software bootloader which runs in RAM and not from the devices flash memory area as a normal bootloader does).
Dont worry.... upgrade to HardSPL v2.10 and then you can flash any ROM you like. Some carrier RUUs wont recognise the newer SPL so might not be happy with it. Depends on what ROM you wish to use.
Radio ROMs are pretty much universal however the best ones generally acknowledged are 1.47 or 1.48 (any variant)....as newer ones are unstable and seem to use the battery alot more.
Thanks for a quick and informative reply, mrvanx. And for the brilliant guides!
However, your answer left me with a couple of other questions.
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Olipro wrote HardSPL so that it wouldnt allow itself to be overwritten
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If Hard-SPL cannot be overwritten, is there ever a need for the method I linked to in my previous post? Also - I thought one of the benefits with Hard-SPL was that it can be removed (and the original BL brought back to life) by flashing an official ROM.
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as far as i know you can overwrite HardSPL by using SSPL (the software bootloader which runs in RAM and not from the devices flash memory area as a normal bootloader does).
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If I understand you correctly, you're saying that if I really want to overwrite Hard-SPL, I can do so using the SSPL, but upgrading with custom ROMs having SSPL bundled with them won't mess up Hard-SPL?
Sorry if these are stupid questions, but I'm a bit afraid of bricking the Tytn I'm currently borrowing from a friend
Update to HardSPL....safe in the knowledge that you CAN revert it back to stock if you wish, the details arent necessary dude. Go for it....its the best thing to do even if you dont change the ROM since the latest radios take advantage of the faster radio flashing technique in later SPLs.
You DRAMATICALLY reduce the risk of bricking the device by flashing HardSPL first.
Were you planning on using any particular flavour of ROM?
I have a thing for details, but I'll take your word and flash the Hard-SPL
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Were you planning on using any particular flavour of ROM?
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Currently I have WM5, so any WM6 would probably be an improvement. I'm hoping to be able to play around a bit with different ROMs as soon as I feel pretty safe about bricking. Some of the light ROMs look very attractive, especially these ones: K's Rom v1.30a Lite, Schap's WM6 Pro 4.30 ROM and Shamanix`s Grass v2.2.
I would also like to try the full version of both Schap's and kin0kin's. Especially the last one because of the auto installation feature.
But I haven't looked closely at all the different ROMs yet, so there might be others that suits my needs better. My only prerequisite is .NET Compact Framework 3.5. If you have a favourite, let me know
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I have a thing for details, but I'll take your word and flash the Hard-SPL
Currently I have WM5, so any WM6 would probably be an improvement. I'm hoping to be able to play around a bit with different ROMs as soon as I feel pretty safe about bricking. Some of the light ROMs look very attractive, especially these ones: K's Rom v1.30a Lite, Schap's WM6 Pro 4.30 ROM and Shamanix`s Grass v2.2.
I would also like to try the full version of both Schap's and kin0kin's. Especially the last one because of the auto installation feature.
But I haven't looked closely at all the different ROMs yet, so there might be others that suits my needs better. My only prerequisite is .NET Compact Framework 3.5. If you have a favourite, let me know
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Pandora Naked 6, by far the fastest and is also very stable.
You can cook your own ROM....follow the instructions in the pandora kitchen thread...its REALLY easy.
I just received a replacement phone from VZW and it appears to have a stock radio/rom that I cannot find the in the community.
From the right side of the boot screen:
P DCBBPZM-615010
R 1.03.09V
D 1.08
From the bootloader (tri-color) screen:
SPL-0.40.0000
From the About screen in Settings:
Windows Mobile 6.1 Professional
CE OS 5.2.20769 (Build 20679.1.4.5)
I was able to rip the flash memory from a tutorial on this site (link) but I have still yet to find a tutorial about dumping the radio. I have been doing searches on here and on PPCGeeks, but I have not found what I'm looking for. Does anyone have any help they can give?
Thanks to Mattheyu and CheezWiz on PPCGeeks for the help so far.
Link to the thread relating to this on PPCGeeks: link
would love to try a new tp radio
You can't extract a radio from a dumped ROM.... All radios are extracted from Shipped ROMS.
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You can't extract a radio from a dumped ROM.... All radios are extracted from Shipped ROMS.
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I know for a fact that all of them aren't extracted from shipped ROMS. I know that they include them, but if you look at my first post I have the raw files dumped from my phone's memory, not just the ROM. If these raw files do not include the radio, then I would be happy to learn how to dump the radio as well. I know it can be done, I just don't have the means to do it.
just to let you know this radio is already dumped and you can use it on the tp for cdma. not sure about gsm though. i really really want a dumped shipped rom of alltel or just even the stock radio would be fine.
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just to let you know this radio is already dumped and you can use it on the tp for cdma. not sure about gsm though. i really really want a dumped shipped rom of alltel or just even the stock radio would be fine.
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You and me both brotha, I have a feeling now that the merger is in full swing, us Alltel peeps wont be seeing any new ROM updates or new devices. I really hope I'm wrong though.
As you mentioned psycho_maniac, VZW has released an update that was leaked to the community. I'm not giving up my pursuit, but now it has turned from me wanting to give a new radio to the community, to how much I can learn about this stuff. If anyone has any adivce on the use of QMAT, please feel free to give it.
I wish you two, and all other alltel customers luck on getting an alltel update.
Hello all. I'm sorta new to xda-developers. I've had a membership for a while just so I can download apps but have never really read through the forum.
Today, I found out about ROMs. I have a Cingular 8525 with WM5 on it. Is it really possible to upgrade it to WM6 with a ROM?! I've been trying to figure it all out by reading the wiki and such but it just seems like wm5 to wm6 is such an enhancement, you would have to pay money for it!
Please, someone either encourage me or completely smash my hopes.
Yes, yes you can.
Awsome...
I come from the world of Palm where you don't get major updates for free. I'm not used to this kind of thing
Before you upgrade, PLEASE, read a bit. Rushing in is a sure fire way to brick your Hermes. You need to Hard SPL your Hermes first to give you a measure of protection if something goes wrong with the flash. You can get Hard SPL V7 from the upgrading section, use search to find, its also a sticky on the upgrading section.Your SPL should be SPL 2.10 oli for safety.
Cheers...