Question Possible 'language change' on X7500? - Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development

Hi All,
after reading many posts and searching for answers to my questions I think this might be the place to post my questions concerning my HTC X7500 ; if not please don't be .. I've just signed on to this -I must say great- forum.
Ok here we go;
I am Dutch and own an X7500 and upgraded to WM6 using Advantage_HTC_NLD_2.21.404.1_1.50.00.00_Ship.exe; as you can see the language is Dutch. No tweaks; just plain WM6.
After several mails to HTC support asking for a DL link for WM6 english (if i'm correct WWE) I was told the WWE version was not due until 2 weeks.. uhuh; X7501 ships with MW6 and in English so there should be sw out there for me. Googling brought me to this lovely site and to Duttythroy's post of 31-08-07. Installing Advantage_HTC_WWE_2.21.405.2_1.50.00.00_Ship.exe failed.
I have several guesses why but am just not sure.
So my 1st question is;
What must I do to install WM6 in English on my X7500? (if it kills my warranty, no problem; just should work). Can I also install the upgrades/updates mentioned in topic "Athena Project Black Touch Edition by PK".. Love how it looks!! if the 'feel' is as well..
The 2nd question(s); Could anyone point me to some specific reading material related to upgrading issues for smartphones? eg HTC's X7500. I'd like to understand the principles of it all. Is sw always HW related or are there some 'baselines'? Is a ROM, phone specific? Is firmware referred to as ROM? Those basic things.
Why these last questions? I'm a former IT engineer/manager who stepped out of IT business and ... opened a restaurant. IT is still a hobby but I 'miss' the last 3 years of phone sw selfeducation..
Thx for any reactions and any time anyone will spend on my post.
cheers,
Hans

Hansimaus said:
Hi All,
after reading many posts and searching for answers to my questions I think this might be the place to post my questions concerning my HTC X7500 ; if not please don't be .. I've just signed on to this -I must say great- forum.
Ok here we go;
I am Dutch and own an X7500 and upgraded to WM6 using Advantage_HTC_NLD_2.21.404.1_1.50.00.00_Ship.exe; as you can see the language is Dutch. No tweaks; just plain WM6.
After several mails to HTC support asking for a DL link for WM6 english (if i'm correct WWE) I was told the WWE version was not due until 2 weeks.. uhuh; X7501 ships with MW6 and in English so there should be sw out there for me. Googling brought me to this lovely site and to Duttythroy's post of 31-08-07. Installing Advantage_HTC_WWE_2.21.405.2_1.50.00.00_Ship.exe failed.
I have several guesses why but am just not sure.
So my 1st question is;
What must I do to install WM6 in English on my X7500? (if it kills my warranty, no problem; just should work). Can I also install the upgrades/updates mentioned in topic "Athena Project Black Touch Edition by PK".. Love how it looks!! if the 'feel' is as well..
The 2nd question(s); Could anyone point me to some specific reading material related to upgrading issues for smartphones? eg HTC's X7500. I'd like to understand the principles of it all. Is sw always HW related or are there some 'baselines'? Is a ROM, phone specific? Is firmware referred to as ROM? Those basic things.
Why these last questions? I'm a former IT engineer/manager who stepped out of IT business and ... opened a restaurant. IT is still a hobby but I 'miss' the last 3 years of phone sw selfeducation..
Thx for any reactions and any time anyone will spend on my post.
cheers,
Hans
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Sorry for such short answers but i'm headed to bed but still wanted to start you off:
Upgrading Phone
- Take out SD card
- Use Olipro's unlocker to SIM/CID unlock your phone (All three steps)...more info on this forum.
- Install ANY Athena (x7500/Dopod/Ameo) ROM you wish (read around and you'll pick up on what others like)...you can do this either from Bootloader or after the ROM sets up.
- Reinstall your programs.
More Info on Phones etc
- Read through this forum
- Check the Wiki (you'll find it if you read through the forum ;-) )
- You can also read through other device threads to gather a little info on what they do. The forum has 90% of what you need already
Maybe someone else will pitch in and answer questions in more detail.....nite all!

Thx a lot Itxda,
I stayed up late also and read myself trough the forum.. took a lot of coffee and some beers Was my day&night off; was fun again to 'dive into' IT related stuff..
I came to the conclusion that I had to follow Olipro's unlock routine 1st, but it's very nice to have it confirmed!
Unfortunately I cannot get sound playing the video from Agent Bignose.. Other video's youtube etc play with sound so.. 1st have to fix that although I have a clue what the vid. msg holds..
After reading trough the - I like it better and better! - forum I expect that the re-installation of my x7500 will go smoothly. ehh hope so
Again thx for the response; If I find the time I will try to make a 'understanding x7500 for dummies' with my experiences which some of you might fine tune. Will save you Senior Members time explaining and will help me understanding the big picture better.
Is that ok with you?
Cheers,
hans

Hansimaus said:
Thx a lot Itxda,
I stayed up late also and read myself trough the forum.. took a lot of coffee and some beers Was my day&night off; was fun again to 'dive into' IT related stuff..
I came to the conclusion that I had to follow Olipro's unlock routine 1st, but it's very nice to have it confirmed!
Unfortunately I cannot get sound playing the video from Agent Bignose.. Other video's youtube etc play with sound so.. 1st have to fix that although I have a clue what the vid. msg holds..
After reading trough the - I like it better and better! - forum I expect that the re-installation of my x7500 will go smoothly. ehh hope so
Again thx for the response; If I find the time I will try to make a 'understanding x7500 for dummies' with my experiences which some of you might fine tune. Will save you Senior Members time explaining and will help me understanding the big picture better.
Is that ok with you?
Cheers,
hans
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Pefection! Just let us know where you get stuck and we'll help along. Take care.

Thx ITxda!
Just one check before I go nuts; Does any of you have sound playing Bignose's Video?
Tried out on several independent systems; nada.
It's not 1st of april. So no sound probably in vid.
Cheers,
hans

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WM2005 etc. Newbie Questions

Hi,
I'm the proud owner of a T-Mobile MDA II with vga camera. Half an hour ago I happend to find this interesting forum.
What is this Windows Mobile 2005? I've never heard of it. I searched the Microsoft website, but I didn't find anything.
I have no idea which OS is installed on my MDA... the ROM version is 1.72.01GER (in case that helps).
So... in case I want to upgrade my MDA.... what do I have to do, where do I get the files from etc. And, what is this upgrade all about? Is it a totally new OS, or what is it? I have no idea
Thanks for your help
Bye
*push*
Hi Bauer,
I too am a newbee. Just joined this forum about a month ago. If I may give you a clue ( though I'm not an expert in it), the Windows Mobile 2005 is supposed to be the next mobile phone OS from Microsoft. It is said to have many more user-friendly features than the one you are currently using. However it has not yet been officialy released in the market (I even doubt if its ready yet). But thanks to our great Buzz Lightyear (http://buzzdev.net) we are fortunate to get the taste of the new promised features. Buzz had managed to create his own version of the said OS and named it the Magneto. Why don't you try to drill further into other area of this forum or go to http://buzzdev.net. I'm sure you'll get the idea, and as it happened to me I'm sure you'll like it too. Good Luck.
Hi again Bauer,
Regarding the question as to where to get ROM upgrade, you can try this link http://www.buzzdev.net/index.php?option=com_docman&task=doc_download&gid=124&Itemid=32 to get the copy of the new ROM upgrade. However you are supposed to register yourself first to be able to access the link. There (and in this forum too) you will get a clear description & instruction for the ROM upgrade.
I would also like to get this opportunity to apologize to the forum (especially to Buzz and the development team) for not being polite enough to say 'thank you' for all the work you've done. I've had no significant problem with either the upgrading process or the tweaking around with both hardware and software (incl. 3rd parties). Everything works fine with my machine since day one I did the upgrade. I love the work. Thank you all, and have a nice day.
Hi Bauer,
Spend time reading the wiki site too which will provide you with a lot of background about your new toy and the sort of things you can tweak/ develop or pick up that others have done.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/
Also learn to use the search function of this website as you can find most of the answers for yourself without relying upon good folk to give the same advice to the next newbee in the queue asking the same questions ('nuff said, we've all been newbees at sometime).
Once you've read relevant parts of the wiki and are comfortable that you want to risk changing your ROM (there are numerous pitfalls you risk (e.g. warrantee invalidation) and ultimately totally killing your machine if you have two left feet/ power surge/ massive bad luck etc) search these forums will educate you to the experiences of others developing/ beta testing/ exploring. Buzz's versions of WM5 are narrated a:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=23151&highlight=
Remember to pay due homage to all his hard work.
Beyond that enjoy.
Viel Glück - Mallow1

HardSPL first or SIM unlock first

Hi Gurus
Is it safer to apply HardSPL first then SIM unlock or the other way round.
Maybe it doesnt matter.
Whats your view ?
Asif
I did sim unlock first. then I apply hardspl. now flashing different roms. don't know exactly how the process suppose to be but that's what I did and my phone is working like a champ
I did hard spl, then Sim unlocked, not sure if it matters. I had the same query when I unlocked, but wondered if I missed something in the WIKI, so didn't ask due to a good flaming (if you aint done your research you can get crusified in here). Your braver than me lol
@AsifM3100: U need to do the CID/SIM update first; it will load it's own spl and radio. When U have completed the process, then U should install the hardspl before flashing your own radio and or rom.
Sotian
You post made me laugh. However I have made the same observation but couldnt find the answer in the wiki or other posts. Its one of the reasons why I have put off unlocking and flashing for such a long time. So many people who you feel sorry for, cos they have bricked their phones and who are panicking, just get told to do the research. When you are in that state the last thing you need is research. Its such a contrast to the SAP developer network site that I use regularly where evryone is so keen to help (me included).
Having said that its still the best site for us Hermese peeps. I would be in no state to unlock if it wasnt for this site. I just hope nothing goes wrong.
Regards
Asif
AsifM3100 said:
Sotian
Its such a contrast to the SAP developer network site that I use regularly where evryone is so keen to help (me included).
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3 thoughts on this:
1. It is scary when the Germans are nicer than us
2. You gotta feel sorry for anyone hanging around in an SAP developer network
3. We aren't so bad when people have done research. It is the "HELP PLZ!!!!! - JUST GOT MY HERMES THIS MORNING AND BRICKED IT!!!!" posts that get people upset. Or the "CAN SOMEONE TELL ME IF THERE IS A WM6 ROM AVAILABLE FOR THE 8525 BY CINGULAR????" People who do their research and ask don't get crucified too badly - usually.
Oh, and regarding the question - doesn't really matter, since (as galaxys noted) the unlocker uses it's own SPL called SSPL and overrides whatever SPL you have loaded. However, it is good practice to throw HardSPL on their as the first step, since it protects the Hermes from having it's bootloader borked - and that is a good thing!
Hi todd_gj
There are not that many Germans on the SAP dewv Networks. Its mainly asian probably in Southern India. Most of the software is now developed out there, especially sisnce it costs $10 an hour. I bet most WM5/6 is churned out over there.
But I do take your point. You need to do your reading, but i have found a little extra help goes a long way to making sense of it all.
Regards
Asif

I don't have the Hermes yet, but I'm already so lost on this forum...

I have an AT&T 8525 arriving tomorrow and I'm so excited by the possibilities... but at the same time I'm just by all the different jargon and things that everyone seems to know about. I'm coming from a Blackjack which I've hacked the crap out of but this just seems so much more complicated. Anyway, hello, if you have any suggestions for someone who has never had an HTC before, please post them up for me, because I really just don't know where to start.
Thanks!
Start here, read and learn
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Hermes
welcome to the club, please read all the Sticky topics on the main page of HERMES Upgrading ect...
if you still have any questions or concerns then post your next question...
happy reading
Oh god... come in sucker.
First of all, before you even start using your phone, SIM unlock it, super CID it, install Bootloader 1.11 but not 1.04 unless you have Olipro 1.02b or you have acces to KITL, then flash every ROM you can find until sleep deprivation affects your marriage your job and you forget the name of your eldest child.
Then after two months of owning a phone that almost never is in a working state, you'll get it stuck in bootloader mode just after you suffered your first white screen of death, and in desperation you will call your carrier with a string of lies and send it back for a replacement.
Then you start the whole process again...
Have fun... not.
esseff said:
Oh god... come in sucker.
First of all, before you even start using your phone, SIM unlock it, super CID it, install Bootloader 1.11 but not 1.04 unless you have Olipro 1.02b or you have acces to KITL, then flash every ROM you can find until sleep deprivation affects your marriage your job and you forget the name of your eldest child.
Then after two months of owning a phone that almost never is in a working state, you'll get it stuck in bootloader mode just after you suffered your first white screen of death, and in desperation you will call your carrier with a string of lies and send it back for a replacement.
Then you start the whole process again...
Have fun... not.
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LOL - that is funny, but a little pessimistic.
If you have hacked your Blackjack to shreads, you will have no problem.
Start with MrVanx Upgrade Guides to see the process.
Then, once you have a feel for the bits and pieces of the process, read through the wiki and forums and you will be able to sort through the threds of relavence. It is really not THAT hard once you have done a little homework.
Most important thing - the first thing you should do is upgrade the SPL to Olipro's HardSPLv7 - do that first - that way you can recover from just about anything.
Rest assured, if you have a little experience, educate yourself and follow the guides to get started, your device will work 99% of the time. Don't fret.
I am also one of those new users and my 8525 is coming in a few days but i'm a bit technical about computers so i tend to grab it quickly, i DON'T want to play around with my mobile, i just want to unlock it, then put it to some good windows mobile 6, and then forget about it till windows mobile 7 comes, does that mean i use pof's sim unlocker v3a to unlock my phone...
alternative is Hard-SPL, if thati have seen that making your phone supercid seems dangerous and the safer s true i simply apply hard-spl on my phone? (though i don't even know what it does if its a utility or a piece of code integrated into your phone or a custom bootloader ), after applying hardspl, i simply follow the legitimate official instructions to install TyTN Mobile 6 official rom as if my 8525 was a HTC TyTN?
I just want my final goal to be Mobile 6.0 Unlocked in the safest go...
encryptedmaniac said:
I am also one of those new users and my 8525 is coming in a few days but i'm a bit technical about computers so i tend to grab it quickly, i DON'T want to play around with my mobile, i just want to unlock it, then put it to some good windows mobile 6, and then forget about it till windows mobile 7 comes, does that mean i use pof's sim unlocker v3a to unlock my phone...
alternative is Hard-SPL, if thati have seen that making your phone supercid seems dangerous and the safer s true i simply apply hard-spl on my phone? (though i don't even know what it does if its a utility or a piece of code integrated into your phone or a custom bootloader ), after applying hardspl, i simply follow the legitimate official instructions to install TyTN Mobile 6 official rom as if my 8525 was a HTC TyTN?
I just want my final goal to be Mobile 6.0 Unlocked in the safest go...
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How do you know that WM5 isn't good enough for you? If the only thing you want on your phone is WM6, why didn't you buy one with this pre-installed? Maybe you should spend some more time reading before you get, and break your new toy - all the best links are already posted above and if you'd read them you wouldn't be posting these questions.
todd_jg said:
LOL - that is funny, but a little pessimistic.
If you have hacked your Blackjack to shreads, you will have no problem.
Start with MrVanx Upgrade Guides to see the process.
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Pessimistic?
That link lists no fewer than five operating systems, for one device, all WM6!!!
Which one works??? This is ridiculous!
This is worse than linux!
...head...spinning...
Thanks for the advice to everyone who gave it... I got my Hermes at 1 this afternoon and it's been sitting on my desk, charging and keeping me from really getting any work done all afternoon. I'm going to assume that all the acronyms y'all are throwing at me will be explained in the wikis...
Don't freak them out guys , get it unlock it install official go to bed happy, if you want to go crazy over installing different versions of roms all the time do so but check the safety steps first (many guides here, Mr. Vanx's is a great place to start) mind you there is no 100% safe option and most of the roms are more or less the same, you can always add cab files of things you want, it's better to stick to a clean rom. If you play with it there might be a chance you screw it... badly (even if you know what you're doing)
Me I just updated the official WM6 (which was released sooooo long later) thankfully in your case you don't have to wait.
Either way congrads on the phone and enjoy it, some small issues aside you have a great piece of hardware there.
CSMR said:
Pessimistic?
That link lists no fewer than five operating systems, for one device, all WM6!!!
Which one works??? This is ridiculous!
This is worse than linux!
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Nothing is worse than Linux!!!!!
d.butters said:
I have an AT&T 8525 arriving tomorrow and I'm so excited by the possibilities... but at the same time I'm just by all the different jargon and things that everyone seems to know about. I'm coming from a Blackjack which I've hacked the crap out of but this just seems so much more complicated. Anyway, hello, if you have any suggestions for someone who has never had an HTC before, please post them up for me, because I really just don't know where to start.
Thanks!
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welcome... i was like you for a while... i'm a new hermes 8525 owner too... read and learn before you really dive in... understand the terminology and jargon for a while... get used to using your phone in stock mode for a while before moving forward... being familiar with it is important... then the first thing you should install when you decide to is hardspl... good luck...
thanks again to everyone! I have to say that the MrVanx Upgrade Guides link was the best, most helpful thing anyone could have pointed me at - step-by-step instructions to flash my hermes with a new ROM. It was great. The forums also yielded CABs and all sorts of other helpful links that have set me up with a near - perfect phone.
Of course, now I'm bored. what's the next step? 'cooking' my own ROMs? where do I start with that? what are 'kitchens'? I know there's lots out there. thanks again for the help y'all have given!!!
esseff said:
Nothing is worse than Linux!!!!!
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hey now hey now, that's a bit mean. Linux does after all give you the whole house, while Microsoft only gives you the Windows
ok, maybe i'm just causing a bit of trouble hehe... just ignore me hehehe
d.butters said:
thanks again to everyone! I have to say that the MrVanx Upgrade Guides link was the best, most helpful thing anyone could have pointed me at - step-by-step instructions to flash my hermes with a new ROM. It was great. The forums also yielded CABs and all sorts of other helpful links that have set me up with a near - perfect phone.
Of course, now I'm bored. what's the next step? 'cooking' my own ROMs? where do I start with that? what are 'kitchens'? I know there's lots out there. thanks again for the help y'all have given!!!
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So, I can't read your nick without thinking of the Lethal Weapon movie with Chris Rock. He was detective Butters or something. Anywa, I digress...
I think your next logical step is one of two paths:
1. Cooking and coding - either for yourself or for a new release, if you come up with something you think is different or cool for the community - home cooked customization apps are quite popular - settings backup/recover solutions too - fewer options out there for that right now
or
2. Documenting - maybe something you could work with MrVanx on if you want to pick up an area that is not well documented adn try to document it for folks
For cooking, start HERE IN THE WIKI and see what you can figure out. I am not sure if all the latest kitchen releases are in here, but it is a good start. Follow the links then do some additional searches - lot's of cool stuff... enjoy...

Ehm...........

Hi guys,
Thanks in advance for your help!
I've got a few quick questions here: I notice some Hermes devices are shipped with WM5 and some with WM6. (please answer as many or as few questions as you can every little titbit of info greatly recieved!)
1. Mine came with WM5. Are there any advantages to upgrading to WM6?
2. I like the cooler 3D startmenu that I've seen on some other people's devices - I'm assuming this is a WM6 feature? Is it possible to get this without upgrading?
3. I'm worried about losing my programmes when doing any rom upgrades from here (been looking at a few of the cooked ones) will my registry remain in tact? If not is it possible to back up the registry and restore it?
4. I tried to perform a backup (been meaning to do it for ages) with activesync...........and discovered the function doesn't exist on the new version??? (I could do it with my blueangel!). Can I still do this?
5. What is SuperCID? I've seen it mentioned a few places? Does it tell you the location of incoming calls?
6. Lastly (and I appreciate this is a bit off-topic) does anyone know any good skinning software for PPC? Something like WiseBar but preferibly free ;-) and with good memory usage
Thanks for taking the time to read this!
MrVarioII said:
Hi guys,
Thanks in advance for your help!
I've got a few quick questions here: I notice some Hermes devices are shipped with WM5 and some with WM6. (please answer as many or as few questions as you can every little titbit of info greatly recieved!)
1. Mine came with WM5. Are there any advantages to upgrading to WM6?
2. I like the cooler 3D startmenu that I've seen on some other people's devices - I'm assuming this is a WM6 feature? Is it possible to get this without upgrading?
3. I'm worried about losing my programmes when doing any rom upgrades from here (been looking at a few of the cooked ones) will my registry remain in tact? If not is it possible to back up the registry and restore it?
4. I tried to perform a backup (been meaning to do it for ages) with activesync...........and discovered the function doesn't exist on the new version??? (I could do it with my blueangel!). Can I still do this?
5. What is SuperCID? I've seen it mentioned a few places? Does it tell you the location of incoming calls?
6. Lastly (and I appreciate this is a bit off-topic) does anyone know any good skinning software for PPC? Something like WiseBar but preferibly free ;-) and with good memory usage
Thanks for taking the time to read this!
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ALL the info you need is available in the wiki and by searching the forum.
Definatly take some time to read through all the available information.
HTC Hermes Wiki Pages
Searching the forum with google
'*** Read this before posting ***'
mrvanx said:
ALL the info you need is available in the wiki and by searching the forum.
Definatly take some time to read through all the available information.
HTC Hermes Wiki Pages
Searching the forum with google
'*** Read this before posting ***'
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I have been reading all of this stuff in search of these answers for quite some time now. Suffice it to say that dyslexia and encroaching anatomy exams (the life of a medic is full of these things) it's difficult to find time to read all of that ;-)
Any help anyone can give on any one of these points would be greatly recieved and I appologise and sympathise greatly with the attitude which creates the 'do a search' mentality so pervasive on the forums - the same things do come up all the time.
Thanks again for your help folks!

Wrong keyboard after update.

Hello friends.
I have a HTC PRO RAPHAEL and I did an update to Energy Rom. After it, my keyboard is litle crazy. The 2nd keys (when we press FN) doesnt work right. When i press FN + 0, should apear = but apear )... it´s like the 2nd keys are working with other sistem. Somebody can help me??
Sorry about my poor english.
Thanks for 4 friends.
The answer to your question is found in several places including NRG rom threads.
diogoamato said:
Hello friends.
I have a HTC PRO RAPHAEL and I did an update to Energy Rom. After it, my keyboard is litle crazy. The 2nd keys (when we press FN) doesnt work right. When i press FN + 0, should apear = but apear )... it´s like the 2nd keys are working with other sistem. Somebody can help me??
Sorry about my poor english.
Thanks for 4 friends.
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i've seen your post everwhere in the forum, or could you just take a photo of your hardware keyboard and let us see if there's any different with ours? because DougalScott have replied to your post in EnergyRom thread, and what i see is the same with him, our Touch Pro keyboard the FN+0 is ), so maybe you can let us take a look at your hardware keyboard???
check out energyrom thread, the answer is there
i experienced the same problem, just read through the thread and found it
basically the settings of energyrom is for fuze, u just have to select the at&t keyboard... and thats it
use the search button for the step by step guide
Jump into the registry and change
HKLM->HARDWARE->DEVICEMAP->KEYBD then the value CWSLayout from 1 to 0. Quit the registry editor and power off and on the phone and it'll all be good...
Now if anyone knows how to get the £ and euro signs working as I'm a Birtish user...
Hope that helps dude...
MadMic said:
Jump into the registry and change
HKLM->HARDWARE->DEVICEMAP->KEYBD then the value CWSLayout from 1 to 0. Quit the registry editor and power off and on the phone and it'll all be good...
Now if anyone knows how to get the £ and euro signs working as I'm a Birtish user...
Hope that helps dude...
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HAve you tried setting your locale to en-GB in settings? They work fine on mine
ok, I feel like a total n00b again :-( lol (not that there's anything wrong with being a n00b, we all were once!) - but can't find this setting anywhere... been through all the options in settings :S - got my keyboard set to English (United Kingdom) - even changed to to United States and back to UK again & rebooted.. but still not love for me is this the place you're referring too???
Cheers for the assist, would love the keys back
try this i have the same problem and now it's ok
dude! what do you think "keyboard selector" in "Start - Utilities - Tweaks" is for?
Your Keyboard is most likely set to Fuze-Layout, it's way different from the original ToucPro Keyboard.
else your hardware-keyboard has to be differnt
naKruul said:
dude! what do you think "keyboard selector" in "Start - Utilities - Tweaks" is for?
Your Keyboard is most likely set to Fuze-Layout, it's way different from the original ToucPro Keyboard.
else your hardware-keyboard has to be differnt
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Not sure if your message was for me or not - I'm not using the same ROM as the original poster.. I'm on Da_G's fine light ROM - nice and fast and plenty of room for customisation - actually just finished flashing to the new ROM specifically for the o2 serra and the keys are working ok - so gonna do some digging in the registry and see if I can spot the changes - might stay with this rom as it's light and fast too, but knowing what I'm like I'll be flashing it again within 24hrs
Thanks for the replies tho...
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This post contents are absolutely OUTRAGEOUS.
Moderators:
Please DO close this thread.
Users:
- «Search» function is not hazardous to your health
- Always think, never allow anyone to do it for you
- Please show some respect for developers
It is revolting to see users registering on the forum only to ask questions...
These are takers. This is a community, not charity.
If you have doubts, search, research, seek and only then ask.
If you ask for something, think about contributing. [I am not talking about money, donations, etc... I am talking about the type of ACTIVE contribution you give to a community].
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This post contents are absolutely OUTRAGEOUS.
Moderators:
Please DO close this thread.
Users:
- «Search» function is not hazardous to your health
- Always think, never allow anyone to do it for you
- Please show some respect for developers
It is revolting to see users registering on the forum only to ask questions...
These are takers. This is a community, not charity.
If you have doubts, search, research, seek and only then ask.
If you ask for something, think about contributing. [I am not talking about money, donations, etc... I am talking about the type of ACTIVE contribution you give to a community].
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Hey dude, I see where you're coming from and not wanting to start an argument / get flamed / banned / eaten or most importantly upset anyone... but easy there tiger! Looking at the initial poster - diogoamato - he registered on May 08 and has made 4 posting since, so either he's done nothing really with his phone or has been doing what a large number of us do - sit and read the posts and learn stuff.
As for me, well I been a professional support guy for MS products since '96 and started using WM5 back on my Axim X51v when it came out, back then I registered on a few forums with XDA-dev being one of them, but then there was only really one place to be as an Ax. owner - aximsite - where I like to think I was contributing to the scene, however my xda-dev account went largely unused. It wasn't until last Nov / Dec I moved over to my Raph. and initially thought I knew a heck of a lot about WM and its workings, esp flashing, but soon realised I got a lot to learn and have spent my time reading & reading again and getting frustrated with the search.. but that's another topic! lol - now I've come a long way since Nov and am starting to try to help others where possible (work, time, etc.) - yea sometimes I think "man, use the search" or "why you flashing and messing with things you dont understand" but mainly I think why not try to help???
Personally I'm trying to get to grips with the kitchens and learn how to build my own custom roms and like all my skills I'm doing it my way; by reading and learning, & trial & error, only one or twice have I asked a querstion from a chef or reported a bug, but only after giving it some serious work myself... I cant remember how many times I've hard-reset my Raph. cos I stuffed it whilst trying to resolve a bug / issue...
I suppose I'm trying to say there are those of us here who use this massive knowledge base that makes this site number 1 and give back what we can. Yea I'd 100% agree if this original poster had a reg. date of Jun '09 : posts 1, but he (and lots of others) have been around for sometime, just we all cant' reply as much as we wished we could...
Well, that's my £0.02 worth...
Peace & love
MadMic said:
Hey dude, I see where you're coming from and not wanting to start an argument / get flamed / banned / eaten or most importantly upset anyone ... just we all cant' reply as much as we wished we could.
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Well put ...
The goal of this community is to help each other; there is no value is scolding someone because they may not have performed all the steps they maybe should have.
... besides, no member is obliged to answer a post.
Cheers,
MadMic said:
Hey dude, I see where you're coming from and not wanting to start an argument / get flamed / banned / eaten or most importantly upset anyone ...
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Well, that's my £0.02 worth...
Peace & love
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Well,
Although I don't usually do so but I will answer you because I believe your comment is actually a comment instead of the usual asinine bunch of non argumentative attacks we see over here more often than desirable...
I will try to outline my ideas...
Then yo can comment it, if you like, in a PM. Let's not flood the thread with offtopic information.
01. We were all noobs once...
02. There are MANY forms of noobness...
03. I ALWAYS [without exception] try to help. This is a community, if I am not willing to contribute there is no point on being here. [as a mater of fact I contribute a lot more than I get... And that's the way it's supposed to be]
04. I can accept ignorance, lack of knowledge or even «mind simplicity»
05. I do not - and I repeat: do not - accept stupidity, laziness, indolence, lack of initiative, lack of commitment, etc... Especialy in a community. If everyone behaves like that we get simply nowhere.
06. If you don't search, you should learn to do it
07. If you believe the WIKI is actually hazardous to your health, it's a shame and you should get some counseling
08. If you don't even bother to read the thread you are posting on, that's just proposterous.
09. I usually answer questions that have already been answered 1.000.000.000 times when they have a reason to be posted.
10. I will not tolerate or have a good reaction towards asinine behaviours
11. Although I do see your point, if you spend some time around here you'll get the feel of the place... Then you will see [or maybe even feel] what I mean... Especially if you are a Chef Wannabe... You will ge to really understand the meaning of ingratitude and true offense. [The majority of members is NOT like that but some should just cease existing...]
12. Whenever one endeavours in or witnesses a non meritable coarse of action, one should allways fight it or withdraw.
P.S. I've been around, you know... After some time you just loose your patience... Users who are actually takers should't be allowed ti be here... That deeply compromises the integrity of the thin fabric of developers society... If you understand my predicament...
Cheers and good luck in you new quest The ROM cooking one
hilaireg said:
Well put ...
The goal of this community is to help each other; there is no value is scolding someone because they may not have performed all the steps they maybe should have.
... besides, no member is obliged to answer a post.
Cheers,
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Hummm... I see your point.
Please read my previous post...
Ignorance is worse than contempt. LOL
Cheers.
... After some time you just loose your patience... Users who are actually takers should't be allowed ti be here... That deeply compromises the integrity of the thin fabric of developers society... If you understand my predicament...
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All those points are spot on - can't argue with any of those.
Several months back, there were a few posts regarding the influx of new members to XDA. Through these conversations, it was discovered that many Carriers are sending their customers here for solutions instead of adequately investing the required dollars into their internal support network.
As a result, newcomers often come here with what they perceive as a new issue and no idea on how to begin looking for a solution ... with the hope that finally, someone will help solve their problem.
XDA has changed; it continues to be about development but that has become an elite sub-culture. Very few will make it there, some will get close, most never will. And those that never will, are usually visiting XDA for information on solving an immediate problem, nothing more - this I feel is the new culture that is emerging on XDA.
I try my best to help those who want to try to get closer to what XDA is about. Like you, I do see posts that frustrate me and for the most part, I simply choose not to answer those.
So yes, we are all guilty of losing patience at one time or another ... I included.
I don't know if that guy got his hardware keyboard issue resolved or not. But, for what it's worth, I have a Fuze that I upgraded to the newest NRG rom. I found out that my function keys and shift/cap key would not function after installed an aftermarket keyboard. It was the keyboard ripped from the Touch Diamond 2.
The keyboard worked fine on a stock fuze so it was a surprise to me.
Just my experience to share..
heyho,
Key: HKLM\HARDWARE\DEVICEMAP\KEYBD\CurLang
Codes: English 1033
That took me...uhhm.. less than 1minute to search. wiki->raphael->keyboard layouts.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Raphael_Keyboard
Don't forget the cwslayout! for touch pro (0) und At&T (1), as MadMic stated.
Softrest is mandatory.
I hope that helped...
garans
P.S.look for UC and make a XML or CAB to do this for you after every flash)
Thanks dude, I'd flashed the Serra ROM (OK o2 brand name for Raph.) and it sorted the fn key issue out, so a little digging in the registry to compare between the two and I'd figured the curlang out, came back to drop a posting about it and you'd beaten me to it - time to spend some more time in the wiki - lol
Was thinkging about using the UC so I dont have to do this again when I flash to another ROM (wont be long as learning the kitchen stuff now... howe long before I got a brick?? lol lol)...
Peace & Love
MadMic

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