Wrong keyboard after update. - Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development

Hello friends.
I have a HTC PRO RAPHAEL and I did an update to Energy Rom. After it, my keyboard is litle crazy. The 2nd keys (when we press FN) doesnt work right. When i press FN + 0, should apear = but apear )... it´s like the 2nd keys are working with other sistem. Somebody can help me??
Sorry about my poor english.
Thanks for 4 friends.

The answer to your question is found in several places including NRG rom threads.

diogoamato said:
Hello friends.
I have a HTC PRO RAPHAEL and I did an update to Energy Rom. After it, my keyboard is litle crazy. The 2nd keys (when we press FN) doesnt work right. When i press FN + 0, should apear = but apear )... it´s like the 2nd keys are working with other sistem. Somebody can help me??
Sorry about my poor english.
Thanks for 4 friends.
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i've seen your post everwhere in the forum, or could you just take a photo of your hardware keyboard and let us see if there's any different with ours? because DougalScott have replied to your post in EnergyRom thread, and what i see is the same with him, our Touch Pro keyboard the FN+0 is ), so maybe you can let us take a look at your hardware keyboard???

check out energyrom thread, the answer is there
i experienced the same problem, just read through the thread and found it
basically the settings of energyrom is for fuze, u just have to select the at&t keyboard... and thats it
use the search button for the step by step guide

Jump into the registry and change
HKLM->HARDWARE->DEVICEMAP->KEYBD then the value CWSLayout from 1 to 0. Quit the registry editor and power off and on the phone and it'll all be good...
Now if anyone knows how to get the £ and euro signs working as I'm a Birtish user...
Hope that helps dude...

MadMic said:
Jump into the registry and change
HKLM->HARDWARE->DEVICEMAP->KEYBD then the value CWSLayout from 1 to 0. Quit the registry editor and power off and on the phone and it'll all be good...
Now if anyone knows how to get the £ and euro signs working as I'm a Birtish user...
Hope that helps dude...
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HAve you tried setting your locale to en-GB in settings? They work fine on mine

ok, I feel like a total n00b again :-( lol (not that there's anything wrong with being a n00b, we all were once!) - but can't find this setting anywhere... been through all the options in settings :S - got my keyboard set to English (United Kingdom) - even changed to to United States and back to UK again & rebooted.. but still not love for me is this the place you're referring too???
Cheers for the assist, would love the keys back

try this i have the same problem and now it's ok

dude! what do you think "keyboard selector" in "Start - Utilities - Tweaks" is for?
Your Keyboard is most likely set to Fuze-Layout, it's way different from the original ToucPro Keyboard.
else your hardware-keyboard has to be differnt

naKruul said:
dude! what do you think "keyboard selector" in "Start - Utilities - Tweaks" is for?
Your Keyboard is most likely set to Fuze-Layout, it's way different from the original ToucPro Keyboard.
else your hardware-keyboard has to be differnt
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Not sure if your message was for me or not - I'm not using the same ROM as the original poster.. I'm on Da_G's fine light ROM - nice and fast and plenty of room for customisation - actually just finished flashing to the new ROM specifically for the o2 serra and the keys are working ok - so gonna do some digging in the registry and see if I can spot the changes - might stay with this rom as it's light and fast too, but knowing what I'm like I'll be flashing it again within 24hrs
Thanks for the replies tho...

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This post contents are absolutely OUTRAGEOUS.
Moderators:
Please DO close this thread.
Users:
- «Search» function is not hazardous to your health
- Always think, never allow anyone to do it for you
- Please show some respect for developers
It is revolting to see users registering on the forum only to ask questions...
These are takers. This is a community, not charity.
If you have doubts, search, research, seek and only then ask.
If you ask for something, think about contributing. [I am not talking about money, donations, etc... I am talking about the type of ACTIVE contribution you give to a community].

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This post contents are absolutely OUTRAGEOUS.
Moderators:
Please DO close this thread.
Users:
- «Search» function is not hazardous to your health
- Always think, never allow anyone to do it for you
- Please show some respect for developers
It is revolting to see users registering on the forum only to ask questions...
These are takers. This is a community, not charity.
If you have doubts, search, research, seek and only then ask.
If you ask for something, think about contributing. [I am not talking about money, donations, etc... I am talking about the type of ACTIVE contribution you give to a community].
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Hey dude, I see where you're coming from and not wanting to start an argument / get flamed / banned / eaten or most importantly upset anyone... but easy there tiger! Looking at the initial poster - diogoamato - he registered on May 08 and has made 4 posting since, so either he's done nothing really with his phone or has been doing what a large number of us do - sit and read the posts and learn stuff.
As for me, well I been a professional support guy for MS products since '96 and started using WM5 back on my Axim X51v when it came out, back then I registered on a few forums with XDA-dev being one of them, but then there was only really one place to be as an Ax. owner - aximsite - where I like to think I was contributing to the scene, however my xda-dev account went largely unused. It wasn't until last Nov / Dec I moved over to my Raph. and initially thought I knew a heck of a lot about WM and its workings, esp flashing, but soon realised I got a lot to learn and have spent my time reading & reading again and getting frustrated with the search.. but that's another topic! lol - now I've come a long way since Nov and am starting to try to help others where possible (work, time, etc.) - yea sometimes I think "man, use the search" or "why you flashing and messing with things you dont understand" but mainly I think why not try to help???
Personally I'm trying to get to grips with the kitchens and learn how to build my own custom roms and like all my skills I'm doing it my way; by reading and learning, & trial & error, only one or twice have I asked a querstion from a chef or reported a bug, but only after giving it some serious work myself... I cant remember how many times I've hard-reset my Raph. cos I stuffed it whilst trying to resolve a bug / issue...
I suppose I'm trying to say there are those of us here who use this massive knowledge base that makes this site number 1 and give back what we can. Yea I'd 100% agree if this original poster had a reg. date of Jun '09 : posts 1, but he (and lots of others) have been around for sometime, just we all cant' reply as much as we wished we could...
Well, that's my £0.02 worth...
Peace & love

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Hey dude, I see where you're coming from and not wanting to start an argument / get flamed / banned / eaten or most importantly upset anyone ... just we all cant' reply as much as we wished we could.
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Well put ...
The goal of this community is to help each other; there is no value is scolding someone because they may not have performed all the steps they maybe should have.
... besides, no member is obliged to answer a post.
Cheers,

MadMic said:
Hey dude, I see where you're coming from and not wanting to start an argument / get flamed / banned / eaten or most importantly upset anyone ...
.../...
Well, that's my £0.02 worth...
Peace & love
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Well,
Although I don't usually do so but I will answer you because I believe your comment is actually a comment instead of the usual asinine bunch of non argumentative attacks we see over here more often than desirable...
I will try to outline my ideas...
Then yo can comment it, if you like, in a PM. Let's not flood the thread with offtopic information.
01. We were all noobs once...
02. There are MANY forms of noobness...
03. I ALWAYS [without exception] try to help. This is a community, if I am not willing to contribute there is no point on being here. [as a mater of fact I contribute a lot more than I get... And that's the way it's supposed to be]
04. I can accept ignorance, lack of knowledge or even «mind simplicity»
05. I do not - and I repeat: do not - accept stupidity, laziness, indolence, lack of initiative, lack of commitment, etc... Especialy in a community. If everyone behaves like that we get simply nowhere.
06. If you don't search, you should learn to do it
07. If you believe the WIKI is actually hazardous to your health, it's a shame and you should get some counseling
08. If you don't even bother to read the thread you are posting on, that's just proposterous.
09. I usually answer questions that have already been answered 1.000.000.000 times when they have a reason to be posted.
10. I will not tolerate or have a good reaction towards asinine behaviours
11. Although I do see your point, if you spend some time around here you'll get the feel of the place... Then you will see [or maybe even feel] what I mean... Especially if you are a Chef Wannabe... You will ge to really understand the meaning of ingratitude and true offense. [The majority of members is NOT like that but some should just cease existing...]
12. Whenever one endeavours in or witnesses a non meritable coarse of action, one should allways fight it or withdraw.
P.S. I've been around, you know... After some time you just loose your patience... Users who are actually takers should't be allowed ti be here... That deeply compromises the integrity of the thin fabric of developers society... If you understand my predicament...
Cheers and good luck in you new quest The ROM cooking one

hilaireg said:
Well put ...
The goal of this community is to help each other; there is no value is scolding someone because they may not have performed all the steps they maybe should have.
... besides, no member is obliged to answer a post.
Cheers,
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Hummm... I see your point.
Please read my previous post...
Ignorance is worse than contempt. LOL
Cheers.

... After some time you just loose your patience... Users who are actually takers should't be allowed ti be here... That deeply compromises the integrity of the thin fabric of developers society... If you understand my predicament...
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All those points are spot on - can't argue with any of those.
Several months back, there were a few posts regarding the influx of new members to XDA. Through these conversations, it was discovered that many Carriers are sending their customers here for solutions instead of adequately investing the required dollars into their internal support network.
As a result, newcomers often come here with what they perceive as a new issue and no idea on how to begin looking for a solution ... with the hope that finally, someone will help solve their problem.
XDA has changed; it continues to be about development but that has become an elite sub-culture. Very few will make it there, some will get close, most never will. And those that never will, are usually visiting XDA for information on solving an immediate problem, nothing more - this I feel is the new culture that is emerging on XDA.
I try my best to help those who want to try to get closer to what XDA is about. Like you, I do see posts that frustrate me and for the most part, I simply choose not to answer those.
So yes, we are all guilty of losing patience at one time or another ... I included.

I don't know if that guy got his hardware keyboard issue resolved or not. But, for what it's worth, I have a Fuze that I upgraded to the newest NRG rom. I found out that my function keys and shift/cap key would not function after installed an aftermarket keyboard. It was the keyboard ripped from the Touch Diamond 2.
The keyboard worked fine on a stock fuze so it was a surprise to me.
Just my experience to share..

heyho,
Key: HKLM\HARDWARE\DEVICEMAP\KEYBD\CurLang
Codes: English 1033
That took me...uhhm.. less than 1minute to search. wiki->raphael->keyboard layouts.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Raphael_Keyboard
Don't forget the cwslayout! for touch pro (0) und At&T (1), as MadMic stated.
Softrest is mandatory.
I hope that helped...
garans
P.S.look for UC and make a XML or CAB to do this for you after every flash)

Thanks dude, I'd flashed the Serra ROM (OK o2 brand name for Raph.) and it sorted the fn key issue out, so a little digging in the registry to compare between the two and I'd figured the curlang out, came back to drop a posting about it and you'd beaten me to it - time to spend some more time in the wiki - lol
Was thinkging about using the UC so I dont have to do this again when I flash to another ROM (wont be long as learning the kitchen stuff now... howe long before I got a brick?? lol lol)...
Peace & Love
MadMic

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NEWB needing help to upgrade

I have been less than pleased with my verizon Titan ever since I have had it. It runs very slow. At least twice a week, I have to remove the battery to unfreeze. The other day, I was in a patients room and noticed that her husband had a phone just like mine. I asked him if he liked it and he said that he loved it. I expressed some of my frustrations and he directed me to this website, telling me that he had installed a new radio and kitchen etc and that it now worked great. Looking at some of the websites, I have only become confused and a bit scared to try and tweak my phone. I do not know where to start.
Will somebody give me or direct me to simple idiot proof instructions on how to unlock/unleash the powers of this phone? I need instructions written for someone who knows nothing about altering smartphones.
Thanks in Advance
Not to be rude, but did you even read the stickies on the forum? Plz read the wiki's gather as much knowledge as you can about the subject and then take the plunge. You will find that the wiki's are most helpful. I would update to DCD's latest ROM and get the latest radio.
You will also find out that alot of basic apps don't come with his ROMs. Make sure you get a list of what you need on your phone before you take the plunge. Get a backup program like PIM backup.
Do searches. Research on your own. nobody here is going to do that for you. People created these wiki's for a reason. USE THEM.
In all truthfulness you should not hack your phone unless you know what you are doing. The wikis and threads are very daunting even to those who have some knowledge of what is going on.
Not trying to be rude, but maybe you need a different phone. One that works the way you want it to work right out of the box.
Best case scenario, even if you manage to fumble your way thru the wikis and then later flash your rom, are you going to be able to recover if you get stuck in the bootloader?
The wikis have the info that you need. But like learning medicine you have to apply yourself.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=392133
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Titan
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=dcdtitanroms
http://ppckitchen.org
You may want to try this one first, to see what all this cooking stuff is all about
gc14 said:
Yes, this is the official sprint 6.1 update with 3.42.02 radio. Non sprint customers can use it to flash the radio only (if you can't via sd card), but again CAN'T let customizations run. Non sprint customers will have to wait until the custom rom is released.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=402887
There are different methods to flash your rom, and different choices for rom updates. Read up on all of them. Trust me, you will need the info sooner or later.
Like it says in the DCD thread you need to unlock your phone, you need a rom, radio, and a carrier. I just flashed my sprint titan for the first time and just about cried when it got stuck in the bootloader.
oh looky what I just accidentally found in the forums.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=403866
Boomstick said:
oh looky what I just accidentally found in the forums.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=403866
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What an amazing concept, you read the forum.
Unfortunately that many guides offer what I feel to be short-cuts. It may be fine if everything goes perfectly, but the problem with such simplifications is that new people can find themselves stuck in unfamiliar territory.
People should be take the time to be aware of background to what they are doing to their phones. Personally, I'd rather recommend taking care to understand the Wiki as myself and others have made the effort to cover many possibilities and recovers when flashing.
Hysterical that the poster identifies himself as a trauma surgeon. Lets hope that if any of us is ever unlucky enough to find ourselves on the other end of the scalpel from this joker, that he isn't standing at the table saying "how do you do this?", and might have taken the time to read up first.
There is no correlation between Surgeon and Computer literacy. My wife's cousin in finishing up Med school and is as bright as they come yet not computer savy beyond common tasks.
As for the actual question he needs not to worry. Using the link with Step by Step to the Verizon upgrade will go easy for you. I only suggest doing the radio via SD card and Rom via USB.
Big Dawg 23 said:
There is no correlation between Surgeon and Computer literacy. My wife's cousin in finishing up Med school and is as bright as they come yet not computer savy beyond common tasks.
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Its not the correlation, its the attitude.
Interesting attitudes here
I will start of first saying thank you to those of you who actually are trying to help. For the rest of you, yes I did search the forum and yes I did read the Wiki. I still did not feel like I understood things well enough to run the risk of "bricking" my phone. (That is new lingo for those of us who don't spend all of our time on computers) Of course I could spend 10 or 20 hours or more, learning more about the phone, which would mean that some time in October I might have it figured out. My job simply does not give me the time to spend hours and hours trying to tweak my phone. I am in the hospital 110 to 120 hours a week (not a month). I feel lucky when I get a few minutes with my wife and kids. But rest assured, when you crash you car and you are bleeding to death, I am there for you just as I am for everyone else. So for the rest of you who are too cocky and to much of a smartass to help someone else out, I ask what in the world are you doing in this forum anyway. I would predict that you are only in here to take what others are here to give OR just here to try and belittle or make others feel stupid.
traumasurg, well aren't you special?
(That is new lingo for those of us who don't spend all of our time on computers)
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Get off your high horse, exceptional ego, relax, and take the time to respectfully learn. Only a single comment here may have generalised and only slightly went over-board, but none were as bad as your absolute swipe against this community -- your second post to XDA.... ebb pegged it, as you do have a horrible attitude. You may have made a far better first impression by not posting your introduction to the forum as a request for a short-cut to flashing your phone without also stating that you had paid notice to the Wiki and current threads concerning flashing guides.... If you had trouble understanding, then why did you fail to state exactly where you went out-of-depth? If terminology is "new lingo" to you then did you at least cover the basics of basic in our Wiki's Titan for Beginners?
You come in here looking for help yet some of us were quite polite, accurate and specific in warning that you should not rush forward with short-cuts before being aware of what you are doing and how to recovery. Links to help were provided to you before in between your two posts. Your phone is possibly your critical property so you should avoid messing with it if unsure upon ensuring that you can maintain its function.
Warning for you in the future -- don't join a tech forum insult all as shut-in computer geeks who owe our life to you. This is an anonymous forum, and therefore all are potentially equal here. What distinguishes members is their decorum of respect and a display of an effort to learn.
Keystone said:
Warning for you in the future -- don't join a tech forum insult all as shut-in computer geeks who owe our life to you. This is an anonymous forum, and therefore all are potentially equal here. What distinguishes members is their decorum of respect and a display of an effort to learn.
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Look, I in no way implied that everyone in here is a shut-in computer geek, although I have no doubt that some are. If you look back over the replies to my original post, there were a couple of members who showed anything but respect. In fact, two of them even posted twice to my original question without any useful information and replied only to in effect say "look how stupid this guy is." If you were on the other end of that reply, what would you think of those here in this forum? There were however several other responses, yours included, that were helpful. Yes I did read through the Wiki and I also had previously looked at two other websites given me by my patient's husband. It was mostly greek to me. That is why I posted.
I must say, I have been in several different forums, dirtbiking, cycling, climbing, trauma, as well as other computer forums and I have never met such attitudes that I met in here this week.
I'll probably just get an iphone next week.
traumasurg said:
I am in the hospital 110 to 120 hours a week (not a month)
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sucks to be you...
and since there is only 168 hours in a week and you say 120 of it is for work... that leaves you with 48 hours of sleeping time... which would be a little less than 7 hours of sleep a day... how do you eat? how do you shower? how do you get laid? no wonder the attitude... if no one else understands... I do
It is tough for some to answer the same questions that are (I promise) explained in the wiki. The hope is that most people would understand and be able to follow through with the instructions, but this is not for anyone, similar to HAM radio and FTA satellite.
I encourage you to go for the iphone, it seems more your speed.
Alright traumasurg, I can understand being a noob sucks. So here is a breakdown of what you should do if you want to get your phone with a new rom and gps radio.
That stock rom wont work with GPS radio. You need a non-stock rom for it to work.
Get this rom: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=402920
Get this radio: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=403280
use this as a guide: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=TitanRecentHome
Once the rom is installed assuming you have verizon, run the carrier cab.
Get carrier cab here: http://www.lifesnotsogood.com/dcd1182/carriers/dcd Verizon Carrier 20080706.cab
Remember you will need to install the new boot loader first. Then do the rest according to instructions there.
Also, make sure you have another phone handy or a land-line handy for when u call verizon. To get it re-authenticated. You will need to do this whenever u go from a non-gps radio to a gps one. (I reccomend doing this during business hours so u dont freak and wont be able to contact them until they open in the morning)
Oh yeah make sure you backup your contacts to outlook(activesync) or use Pimbackup or your gonna be pissed off.

Someone please help me!!

i see all these nice incons and i have no clue how u install them , i really would appericate it if someone could list step by step how to install them thank u so much
Here my friend take a look at this thread! I don't think I can explain it much better!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=567080
What are those "Help me!!!!!!!"-Threads always supposed to be? Is it so difficult to choose a proper ThreadTitle which informs a potential reader about the content of the Thread. And why the hell must it sound like you have bricked your phone completely when u just want to ask a minor standard-question (without even using the searchfunction by the way... ). Please Guys keep this forum clean and informative.
Thanks
Yes, it's crazy to see all those questions without people make the effort to use the search function!
im not that good on here sorry for the quesions but i have one more how do u flash your cabs and xmls again im sorry and thank u alot
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im not that good on here sorry for the quesions but i have one more how do u flash your cabs and xmls again im sorry and thank u alot
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????
Flash is fore Rom's!!
Cabs are installed!!
Just download the cab's you need, copy to your SD and pres on install! Don't see the difficult in it!
Oh yes fore your safety, install the cab on the device's memory!!
no i understand all of that , im talking about when i save my new icons to a folder then go in and copy them , i needed to knw where i paste them so they will show up in the start menu
^^^ Did you actually really read the answer in posting #2?
I kind of doubt that. Because your new question implies you haven´t.
Please follow the link, read everything, download and try the app - and there you go.
so friendly
Wow xda-developers is so friendly!! Whats with all the jumping on people. If someone is new they dont know how it works in here. So just let them know , in a nice way. The responses here sound like you dont want any new people here. Fine any new person who reads this head over to www.ppcgeeks.com . The people are much nicer there and wont get pissed if you ask a question.
zarpy said:
Wow xda-developers is so friendly!! Whats with all the jumping on people. If someone is new they dont know how it works in here. So just let them know , in a nice way. The responses here sound like you dont want any new people here. Fine any new person who reads this head over to www.ppcgeeks.com . The people are much nicer there and wont get pissed if you ask a question.
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Sometimes (a lot of) people just don't read nor search and expect to be spoon-fed the information they need (because they would not spend the effort to do/find it themselves). I don't know about the majority but to me that is just laziness and quite annoying.
AS FOR THE QUESTION POSTED, if you actually do go to the link posted above, the information is there and any questions you might still have is better directed in that thread rather than creating a new one such as this with a SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME!!!! subject line.
I thought moderators are deleting threads such as this.
zarpy said:
Wow xda-developers is so friendly!! Whats with all the jumping on people. If someone is new they dont know how it works in here. So just let them know , in a nice way. The responses here sound like you dont want any new people here. Fine any new person who reads this head over to www.ppcgeeks.com . The people are much nicer there and wont get pissed if you ask a question.
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Nobody is jumping on anybody.
The truth is harsh sometimes. Obsolete and redundant questions and answers are definitely not something any forum is searching for. It´s called spam.
Ignoring the correct answer (which in this case was given in the very first answering posting) isn´t a beginners mistake, imho. It doesn´t show respect to the user who posted the link.
If me pointing out this very fact was too rude, I am sorry. But to be honest, I am tired of recurring subjects which could easily be solved using the search function. I did the same when I came here as a beginner. Oh, and btw, please check the forum rules and the new stickies.
Last, but not least, in the other forum you mention, it might be a different story sometimes. People get ignored there, and some statements are much harsher than anything I have personally ever seen here.
We are all human beings. Cool down.
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Ok yes the link provided was good information. I personally just PM someone when I have a question. I been here for a while so i have that option because people will PM me back.
My point is some people or smarter than others. Iam a developer myself, so alot of problems or questions I can figure out on my own. But some people are not that smart and this phone can very easily expose that fact. So some new people might need more help , and sarcasm wont help anyone. They dont call this a smart phone for nothing. Whats simple to you and me , might be complicated to others.
zarpy said:
Wow xda-developers is so friendly!! Whats with all the jumping on people. If someone is new they dont know how it works in here. So just let them know , in a nice way. The responses here sound like you dont want any new people here. Fine any new person who reads this head over to www.ppcgeeks.com . The people are much nicer there and wont get pissed if you ask a question.
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I don't see what's your problem Sr.
First of all the moderators have create a special sub-forum fore this Q and A.
secondly I can understand that maybe using the searchfunction is not easy to everyone, and certainly not if you don't know what to search!
But after the moment I post him the correct link to his question, a hole thread that give you bay the way a hole step by step explanations I don't know how we can give a better treatment!?
but after that the person came back with a question what is tread in there!!!???
I don't know sr but there is a end on everyone's goodness!
nice is a good word
Ok I understand its annoying when newbies just dont get it. As for a problem I dont have one , and maybe I came off harsh. My mistake too.
When the OP said flash a cab , that alone told me he isn't computer or phone savy. He obviously is way over his head with this type of phone. He probaly got lucky when he found this website. Iam sure he was excited that he could ask a question because he was lost. The comment that pissed me off a little was telling him its safer to install to the phone. Thats definitally not right at all.
The only reason I said anything was because I could tell the OP was really lost and confused. By reading his comments I could tell he never had anything like this before. So for his 1st venture into the wonderful world of windows mobile, I just didnt want him to be discouraged. I want him to enjoy the phone and mod it to the fullest extent.
the reason way I have wright "installed cabs on your device" is because there are some cab's that don't have a correct installation pat. And like I saw it was a new member who posted this thread I give him this tip, to be sure he don't installed it on SD.
I don't see what is wrong with that!?
installation
1) Installation on a unstable OS like windows mobile ,will cause slowdown in the future after alot of apps are installed. Its nobodys fault but HTC who made the phone.
2) If there is a virus , you can delete it easier on storage card.
3) If you have to hard reset the phone , you lose everything. Thats why I recommend storage card.
See how nicely I spoke , I gave point by point reasons without sarcasm. We are all happy now.
It´s a bit sad to see the development of this thread.
Something which was not "bashing" turned into bashing after a posting was made, citing the "bad word". In the meantime, there was even a thread opened to discuss that very question.
I think both threads should be closed. They don´t belong into the "HD2 Themes and Apps" section anyway.
And, imho, it is recommendable to install system relevant items like icon cabs to the device, I definitely second kurt-willems´ advice. On the other hand, CSMI or JWMD Icon Changer, the possible programs to change icons manually, can go onto the memory card.
zarpy said:
1) Installation on a unstable OS like windows mobile ,will cause slowdown in the future after alot of apps are installed. Its nobodys fault but HTC who made the phone.
2) If there is a virus , you can delete it easier on storage card.
3) If you have to hard reset the phone , you lose everything. Thats why I recommend storage card.
See how nicely I spoke , I gave point by point reasons without sarcasm. We are all happy now.
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But I don't see sarcasm on my post, maybe my bad english, or maybe my culture.
That was all I had to say.
zarpy said:
1) Installation on a unstable OS like windows mobile ,will cause slowdown in the future after alot of apps are installed. Its nobodys fault but HTC who made the phone.
2) If there is a virus , you can delete it easier on storage card.
3) If you have to hard reset the phone , you lose everything. Thats why I recommend storage card.
See how nicely I spoke , I gave point by point reasons without sarcasm. We are all happy now.
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I don't want to wade in on the bashing, but to make a comment like your first one, "unstable OS", sounds to me like you have something against windows mobile, and to post in a thread of someone looking for help that their os is just "Unstable" is not really help ...
I am sure there are a lot of people that use WiMo daily and would not agree that it is "Unstable"
I personally install almost everything to phone memory because this phone can take it, and my phone runs just fine...
With this phone there is a bigger chance of the SD card getting corrupted than the OS ...
life is funny
Its very funny to me now. I just responded and I didnt bash anyone. Its funny how people can talk to someone anyway they like, but cant take it when someone talks to them the same way.
If you didnt like the way I responded, maybe you shouldnt that way to others. Very simple have a nice day!!!

give me some cool application

i just reset my lg ks20 wm6 i won to install good application espeecialy games help
www.google.com
alecoddlyiv said:
www.google.com
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man, you're not helping at all,
here is some really-really cool stuff: http://tinyurl.com/629h94n
p107r0 said:
man, you're not helping at all,
here is some really-really cool stuff: http://tinyurl.com/629h94n
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But he's right. Topics like this one have been discussed over and over again here at xda. If he had used the search function himself he would have discovered some "cool applications" by now. That's how we all acquire the software for our devices: By searching this forum and many other well known sources like the openmarket app store (once again easy to find using google).
altae said:
But he's right. Topics like this one have been discussed over and over again here at xda. If he had used the search function himself he would have discovered some "cool applications" by now. That's how we all acquire the software for our devices: By searching this forum and many other well known sources like the openmarket app store (once again easy to find using google).
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you're absolutely right - just check my link
Yeah, great website there. What about a sticky topic "Tutoriol how to google with success"?
altae said:
Yeah, great website there. What about a sticky topic "Tutoriol how to google with success"?
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good idea, bu might not work for those who haven't yet heard of this modern invention
Wow - old thread is old.
Hi! I'm a noob. Well, technically, I'm not; I just haven't been back here in many years since I first started poking at registries and editing the old wikis (now defunct, horribly broken, etc.), and finally needing to get work done and thus not wanting to play with my WM device very much and switched to Android not too long ago. But given this huge gap, I might as well be designated a noob now so I watched the introduction video (how awesome is that thing?). And one of the things it says is to use google, search, etc. Well, I've done all that (almost, still browsing this forum section and going through a different forum's software announcements, but I've seen more of Handango, pocketpcfreeware, freewarepocketpc and those lot than I'm willing to see again (thankfully, most of them have RSS feeds)), and narrowed down the list of several thousands of apps to... well, still quite a bit more than 100.
So another thing the video suggests is to find similar threads and read those. Here's the thing, though... those also tend to be old. I could find a thread that speaks highly of cLaunch even though people have moved on from that to SPB and then Androkkid or, etc. The best part is - it's almost impossible to untangle! It doesn't help that a lot of software announcements don't even mention what they're compatible with
( Nor that announcements also happen in the 'Windows Mobile Software Development' section. )
I still have to try the XDA Market (is it or is it not dead? The thread is stale. Did I mention the untangling issues already? oh yes, one paragraph back.), but it would definitely be nice if there were a place where those of you who still play with WM devices could discuss apps and come to some sort of consensus as to what 'the best apps' are. I do specifically mention that in plural because I know from my earlier days, and from reading a few threads last week, that people still ask "what is the best X app?" only to be met with "depends on your preferences" which is certainly true but there's always some apps that are going to be significantly better than others.
So here's my dilemma... do I hijack one of the existing threads (as I'm sort of doing now, but please don't see this post as my asking about apps - I'll do a proper post where I detail the apps I've got listed already, my preferences, etc.) or do I start a new thread?
And, of course, in the mean time... if there already is such a consensus-on-app-worthiness list that isn't 2 years old, where might I find it?
Again, not asking for input on apps - just some pointers on where to look, specifically, after having already 'google[d] it'. Then perhaps the next poor sod that comes along and has the same question has a better idea of where to go after his/her brain is filled with app references.
*resumes reading this forum section, then the 'Windows Mobile Software Development' section, and then that other forum*
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Again, not asking for input on apps - just some pointers on where to look, specifically, after having already 'google[d] it'. Then perhaps the next poor sod that comes along and has the same question has a better idea of where to go after his/her brain is filled with app references.
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Given the number of xda members, threads and posts, searching for any info here can be indeed painful, frustrating and often fruitless. I generally prefer google over xda search, but with search results limited to xda forums, so - assuming we search for e.g. "cool WM apps", the search string will look like this:
Code:
cool WM apps site:forum.xda-developers.com
I know it's not a big help, still, the OP question was sooooo general, I mean, for some the cool app will be SpaceTime for WM, while for others it might be Crayon Physics....
Went back here to update my post - hadn't expected a reply, thanks! ( yes, I did press the button, noob-introduction-video! )
Yeah, I did that - but that's a pretty hit-or-miss method at best.. there's a bunch of posts that say something looks like a cool app and that they'll download it and "have a think about it" (broken English ftw) - then they come back saying it doesn't work on their device (WM2003 for a WM6 app)
That's why I'm just going over all of the forum pages (got time to burn - that's why I'm poking at the old WM device to begin with.. it had been collecting dust)
Anyway, the update I was going to make was just to mention that 'XDA Market' does look pretty dead-ish (nothing recent in there, what's in there is a fraction of what's available, and it sure likes to crash a lot). It also looks almost exactly like what I'd need.. I'll have to remember that when I hit its thread here and encourage the devs to pick it up again.
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Anyway, the update I was going to make was just to mention that 'XDA Market' does look pretty dead-ish (nothing recent in there, what's in there is a fraction of what's available, and it sure likes to crash a lot). It also looks almost exactly like what I'd need.. I'll have to remember that when I hit its thread here and encourage the devs to pick it up again.
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not surprising, given that most of the hardcore HD2 users jumped ship to android, sooner or later WM will be as popular as Palm OS is now, anyway, if your're looking for an app to perform specific tasks, just ask, there is a chance someone might know something
Yeah - just a shame, really.. there's lots of WM devices floating around still that can still find use.
I know, possibly the best use of them is disassembly, re-use where possible (too bad the screens are always undocumented or there would be plenty of Arduino guys with interest in at least that component) and recycle the rest.
But I'm giving the poor thing one last while to shine before doing that (probably the next time I get a new phone, I'll give the store this one).
A functional 'XDA Market' would definitely have helped with that.
I wouldn't blame them if they did abandon it, though.. even Microsoft abandoned their own Windows Mobile market even while WP7 isn't available globally yet, and Windows 8-on-mobile is is sure to kill the WP7 store, too. They're good like that.
I'll open a new thread (I guess is the best option) when I'm ready for it - right now there's still plenty of hidden gems tucked away in these forums that I'll go to, first

[Q] Help? Camera not working with "pac_ruby-nightly-20140428"

Hi, after flashing this rom "pac_ruby-nightly-20140428", my camera stop working...
I tried already to install "pac_ruby_4.4.Alpha-1_20140302-235050", but now says "Blame split screen", need hel, i don't know what to do...
Thanks
Bugaman said:
Hi, after flashing this rom "pac_ruby-nightly-20140428", my camera stop working...
I tried already to install "pac_ruby_4.4.Alpha-1_20140302-235050", but now says "Blame split screen", need hel, i don't know what to do...
Thanks
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AFAIK camera is broken in all new KitKat roms. If you need working cameras use Jelly Bean or ICS builds.
Bugaman said:
Hi, after flashing this rom "pac_ruby-nightly-20140428", my camera stop working...
I tried already to install "pac_ruby_4.4.Alpha-1_20140302-235050", but now says "Blame split screen", need hel, i don't know what to do...
Thanks
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Before flashing, did you even bother to read through any of the dev or Q&A threads, or do you always just blindly install the most critical software for any device without thought or ramifications of the consequences? To put it bluntly, it shows a profound carelessness at best, or at worse, willful ignorance. Every dev thread here lists either in the first or second post a list of known bugs with their ROMs. ALL versions of KitKat regardless of the author have serious issues at the moment. Even the most casual of glances would have revealed this to you. To start a new thread over a known major issue is a redundant waste of time and bandwidth.
May I suggest that in the future, you at least take a minute or two, to read through and familiarize yourself with what you're undertaking before doing so, in order to prevent wasting everyone else's time with your complaining about a very well known issue.
Edit: Sorry I came on so strong. Listen, everyone was a newbie once, but it's not an excuse for acting like one. You may not have many posts, but you've been here for awhile. There's a wealth of info on the posts pinned to the top of the forums, including board etiquette. If you discover what you think is a bug or if you have an issue, you should post in the Q&A thread for that ROM. But before posting there, you should read through both the Q&A and dev thread to see if it's already known from being previously reported. This keeps clutter off the board and focuses problem solving to the proper channels.
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Odysseus1962 said:
Before flashing, did you even bother to read through any of the dev or Q&A threads, or do you always just blindly install the most critical software for any device without thought or ramifications of the consequences? To put it bluntly, it shows a profound carelessness at best, or at worse, willful ignorance. Every dev thread here lists either in the first or second post a list of known bugs with their ROMs. ALL versions of KitKat regardless of the author have serious issues at the moment. Even the most casual of glances would have revealed this to you. To start a new thread over a known major issue is a redundant waste of time and bandwidth.
May I suggest that in the future, you at least take a minute or two, to read through and familiarize yourself with what you're undertaking before doing so, in order to prevent wasting everyone else's time with your complaining about a very well known issue.
Edit: Sorry I came on so strong. Listen, everyone was a newbie once, but it's not an excuse for acting like one. You may not have many posts, but you've been here for awhile. There's a wealth of info on the posts pinned to the top of the forums, including board etiquette. If you discover what you think is a bug or if you have an issue, you should post in the Q&A thread for that ROM. But before posting there, you should read through both the Q&A and dev thread to see if it's already known from being previously reported. This keeps clutter off the board and focuses problem solving to the proper channels.
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Typical geek answer, "normal" from a "kid" that doesn't have friends in real life, and he hides himself behind a computer, pretending that he's the best and smarter then everyone else...
If i wrote here, was because i was looking for help, not for some stupid replies...
Thanks for nothing loser... Keep those comments to your friends that speak "bit and bites"...
Bugaman said:
"bit and bites"...
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I just peeked in the Dev thread for PAC-Man ROM 4.4.2 for Ruby.
See post #6:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=50798437&postcount=6
Also, see posts:
11, 12, 14, 15, 17, 35, 38.
There is a hint of a temporary fix here, in post 39:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=51491700&postcount=39
Odysseus1962 said:
May I suggest that in the future, you at least take a minute or two, to read through and familiarize yourself with what you're undertaking before doing so, in order to prevent wasting everyone else's time with your complaining about a very well known issue.
Edit: Sorry I came on so strong. Listen, everyone was a newbie once, but it's not an excuse for acting like one. You may not have many posts, but you've been here for awhile. There's a wealth of info on the posts pinned to the top of the forums, including board etiquette. If you discover what you think is a bug or if you have an issue, you should post in the Q&A thread for that ROM. But before posting there, you should read through both the Q&A and dev thread to see if it's already known from being previously reported. This keeps clutter off the board and focuses problem solving to the proper channels.
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Incidentally, it's poor etiquette to call someone "loser."
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pbergonzi said:
I just peeked in the Dev thread for PAC-Man ROM 4.4.2 for Ruby.
See post #6:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=50798437&postcount=6
Also, see posts:
11, 12, 14, 15, 17, 35, 38.
There is a hint of a temporary fix here, in post 39:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=51491700&postcount=39
Incidentally, it's poor etiquette to call someone "loser."
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Thanks a lot for or reply, i will check the posts... that was exactly what i was expecting from this site,... HELP!
Calling "loser" wasn't nice? I think it was... After the reply that he did to my comment, i think i was too nice, when i call him "loser"...
Once again, thanks a lot... :good:
Bugaman said:
Typical geek answer, "normal" from a "kid" that doesn't have friends in real life, and he hides himself behind a computer, pretending that he's the best and smarter then everyone else...
If i wrote here, was because i was looking for help, not for some stupid replies...
Thanks for nothing loser... Keep those comments to your friends that speak "bit and bites"...
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Bugaman said:
Thanks a lot for or reply, i will check the posts... that was exactly what i was expecting from this site,... HELP!
Calling "loser" wasn't nice? I think it was... After the reply that he did to my comment, i think i was too nice, when i call him "loser"...
Once again, thanks a lot... :good:
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FYI Spanky, I'm no kid, I'm a 51yo man, a truck driver (Teamsters Local 769), who could drop you in a heartbeat. If I (someone with no formal IT training and a HS diploma from 30 years ago) can figure this out in my off-time, between dealing with work, and my family, what's your excuse? All you had to do was look at my profile before speaking out of the wrong orifice, and you'd know this.
It appears you're even less capable than I gave you credit for in my previous post, since you show a proclivity for being unable to read or do research, and have wedged your foot so far into you mouth that it's impossible to extricate. I've forgotten more than you've ever learned (obviously not a high bar to leap over). Unlike yourself, I contribute here towards providing useful info and help to others who're willing to help themselves. Hence, my high ratio of thanks to posts in a short time here. You, on the other hand, have never provided one bit of useful information in your much longer time on the board (which is easily verified by searching your previous posts).
I don't pretend to be smarter than you, I know I am! That's because I have enough common sense to know my abilities and limitations, something you obviously lack. You seem to have selected an apropos handle, "Insectman." So by all means, obliviously continue along in your vacuous ways, and slither back into the damp crevice you were hiding in. Have a nice day!!!!
Odysseus1962 said:
FYI Spanky, I'm no kid, I'm a 51yo man, a truck driver (Teamsters Local 769), who could drop you in a heartbeat.
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You're also very rude.
You wasted more time insulting the guy than you did helping him. While I do support use of the search function sometimes it is not so clear cut for people. The first response you typed out was extremely unwarranted IMHO. This one, not much better. You seem to have quite the ego.
sam_conrad said:
You're also very rude.
You wasted more time insulting the guy than you did helping him. While I do support use of the search function sometimes it is not so clear cut for people. The first response you typed out was extremely unwarranted IMHO. This one, not much better. You seem to have quite the ego.
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I'm sorry, he's rude? LOL Bruh, look at his thanks meter. He's HELPING people. He knows his stuff, so he deserves to have an ego. ESPECIALLY since he built his own ROM.
But I guess you're too fat headed yourself to be humble and accept the fact that this thread could have been avoided if the OP had just read the changelog. Let's face it, if by some mishap the OP had bricked his device he'd be crying for help (just like I did) and I know for a fact that I didn't read anything before (cause I was stupid, and I can acknowledge the fact that I used to be ignorant and now I take the time to read through the forums properly before I post unnecessarily, and Ody here has helped me a great deal.)
So before you go calling people rude and judge them prematurely, take a minute to really think about what you want to post.
PS. he did apologize, so I see no need for you to be bashing him still. I, on the other hand, don't give a damn.
I'm bored, so I went through the Q&A
Remind me not to do this again.
@Darin_Ram, thanks for your strong defense. I do greatly appreciate it, however, the truth of the matter is that @sam_conrad is correct. I was rude to the OP. No matter how much good I do in assisting others here it doesn't mitigate the matter, because two wrongs don't make a right. I lost my cool when I read the comments he directed towards me and lashed out in an unbecoming manner. For this there is no excuse. If my kids had behaved in such a way I would have had a conniption, so I should expect no less from myself.
Thanks again for your heartfelt comments.
Did you maked backup of your last rom
Bugaman said:
Hi, after flashing this rom "pac_ruby-nightly-20140428", my camera stop working...
I tried already to install "pac_ruby_4.4.Alpha-1_20140302-235050", but now says "Blame split screen", need hel, i don't know what to do...
Thanks
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DID YOU MAKED BACKUP OF YOUR LAST ROM IF NOT DON"T CRY JUST FOLLOW STEPS
Download this rom Click Here
Flash rom using HTC Amaze 4G All-In-One Toolkit V5.2 - (Extras-Flash Factory RUU zip)
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backup?
jitz_ said:
DID YOU MAKED BACKUP OF YOUR LAST ROM IF NOT DON"T CRY JUST FOLLOW STEPS
Download this rom Click Here
Flash rom using HTC Amaze 4G All-In-One Toolkit V5.2 - (Extras-Flash Factory RUU zip)
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Link's not working.
Maybe what you are offering is that if he can't recover his original system from his nandroid backup, he can download and flash a stock ROM, such as this GingerBread (courtesy ravike14 signature):
http://download2.clockworkmod.com/developer/2184/2115/ruby_unsigned_021812_031444.zip
or perhaps a stock from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1617644
Odysseus1962 said:
@Darin_Ram, thanks for your strong defense. I do greatly appreciate it, however, the truth of the matter is that @sam_conrad is correct. I was rude to the OP. No matter how much good I do in assisting others here it doesn't mitigate the matter, because two wrongs don't make a right. I lost my cool when I read the comments he directed towards me and lashed out in an unbecoming manner. For this there is no excuse. If my kids had behaved in such a way I would have had a conniption, so I should expect no less from myself.
Thanks again for your heartfelt comments.
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This is a much more noble reply. While you're extremely helpful to the community, and I never disagreed that you are, it's no excuse to be an ass. There is never a "deserving right" to be rude in any case. In my world, at least, the people treat each other with respect or they're gone. I know that I don't have time to deal with people that don't want to move forward and get along. Regardless of how stupid some peers might seem, or how smart one may believe he/she is, I think showing some humility and always staying grounded goes a long way.
I often tell people that some of the world's greatest minds are the dumbest of us all - some of your behavior represented why. When we're in an advantaged position of knowledge, we should encourage others to learn from us, not the other way around.
@Darin_Ram - no need to throw personal jabs at me, trying to tell me I'm full of myself (or "fat headed"), please and thank you. I don't claim to be a genius in any regard, and especially not the mobile space. I just have found Ody on a few too many accounts to be unnecessarily rude... My own focus is on computer networking and desktop PCs. :good: I usually reside at XtremeSystems.org and HWBOT.org due to my hobby of extreme LN2 overclocking.
Use original rom of htc
pbergonzi said:
Link's not working.
Maybe what you are offering is that if he can't recover his original system from his nandroid backup, he can download and flash a stock ROM, such as this GingerBread (courtesy ravike14 signature):
http://download2.clockworkmod.com/developer/2184/2115/ruby_unsigned_021812_031444.zip
or perhaps a stock from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1617644
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BEST OPTION EVER AFTER GETTING THROUGH ALL THE ROM FROM DEV FORUM I FOUND THAT NO ONE IS PROPER AND COMPATIBLE FOR OUR DEVICE ONLY ORIGINAL ROM ALLOW YOU TO USE ALL THE FEATURE STRESS FREE + STABLE VERSION BE SMART !
ONE DAY YOU HAVE TO BACK AGAIN FOR THIS ROM .. I ALWAYS DO SO .. MAY BE EXPERIENCED PERSON AGREE WITH ME !
:good:
http://www.htcdev.com/devcenter/downloads​

Navigating Long Threads

This will be a launching pad for tips and recommendations for members negotiating long threads and reading pertinent information. I read many posts with members stating that the thread is just too long to read. Then using that as an excuse for not reading at all. Please add your ideas and methods for reading.
The first thing I do when looking at a new thread is read the OP. I always check dates and also the date of the latest iteration of the ROM, kernel, etc. after reading what the author wrote about their thread I'll jump to the end of the thread and read backwards to the date of the latest release. This gets me up to date with the latest build and any issues.
Then I'll decide if I want to flash this on my very expensive device.
Like I said...
Please add on your tips!
Thanks!
RayMcGrath said:
This will be a launching pad for tips and recommendations for members negotiating long threads and reading pertinent information. Please add your ideas and methods for reading.
The first thing I do when looking at a new thread is read the OP. I always check dates and also the date of the latest iteration of the ROM, kernel, etc. after reading what the author wrote about their thread I'll jump to the end of the thread and read backwards to the date of the latest release. This gets me up to date with the latest build and any issues.
Then I'll decide if I want to flash this on my very expensive device.
Like I said...
Please add on your tips!
Thanks!
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Hi...
The way you use to read a thread pretty much summarize the way I do it myself. I go a step further by searching within the said thread with some key words such as:
Problem, issue, brick, bricked, bootloop, etc...
I may sound paranoid, but I often browse the forum late at night and I could miss an important post due to being tired.
Cheers...
Great idea Ray. Teach by teaching, not by beating a person over the head lol
I go to the OP also and if I am interested in flashing, go back a month or two and read posts to see if things are stable or not. I also follow a bunch of Roms that I don't intent to flash or, have flashed before - just to see what kind of problems have arisen and how they were dealt with. It's a great way to pass a ride on the train or other idle time. I do think that there are many from around the world here and language might be a factor effecting their ability to read and/or search. Either way, I love this XDA, a valued tool! Too bad I came along so late in the game.
Bobbaloo said:
Great idea Ray. Teach by teaching, not by beating a person over the head lol
I go to the OP also and if I am interested in flashing, go back a month or two and read posts to see if things are stable or not. I also follow a bunch of Roms that I don't intent to flash or, have flashed before - just to see what kind of problems have arisen and how they were dealt with. It's a great way to pass a ride on the train or other idle time. I do think that there are many from around the world here and language might be a factor effecting their ability to read and/or search. Either way, I love this XDA, a valued tool! Too bad I came along so late in the game.
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Great to have you. You're a big help to many folk.
5.1 said:
Hi...
The way you use to read a thread pretty much summarize the way I do it myself. I go a step further by searching within the said thread with some key words such as:
Problem, issue, brick, bricked, bootloop, etc...
I may sound paranoid, but I often browse the forum late at night and I could miss an important post due to being tired.
Cheers...
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You're right!
Performing a search can be an art form. Using the just right keyword to be successful takes some practice. It is so important to try many paths and exhaust all possibilities before posting your question in the threads. And then phrasing your question with all your information is important as well.
RayMcGrath said:
You're right!
Performing a search can be an art form. Using the just right keyword to be successful takes some practice. It is so important to try many paths and exhaust all possibilities before posting your question in the threads. And then phrasing your question with all your information is important as well.
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Well, since my first modded android phone in 2008, i have never felt the need of asking anything. Most likely because all issues I encountered were already covered. Either by developers or people answering issues reported by previous users having the same problems. And maybe because I like to get things done by myself. (Which I achieve 1% of the time ).
I check XDA almost every day since. I must say that the "reading thing" may sound challenging for some people. You'll ask me why?
What follows is about novice users for the most part who don't know about/how to use the search function. Try reading a thread where 100 users come each and every day writing the same thing about the same problem over and over. And over again...
Trying to find the relevant posts in-between all this mess is sometimes quite discouraging.
I'm lucky to have affinity with English and of course it's a lot easier to read and find infos when I need them. Google translate became really nice with time. Yet i find myself using it, since English is not my native language and I learned it the hard way. Sometimes it's sad to see people not using such a powerful tool.
People, please use the search function! Take some time to read. If you don't get it, use an online translator. :good:
PS: Hopefully I didn't derail too much from the OP with this post... I'll delete it if needed.
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Well, since my first modded android phone in 2008, i have never felt the need of asking anything. Most likely because all issues I encountered were already covered. Either by developers or people answering issues reported by previous users having the same problems. And maybe because I like to get things done by myself. (Which I achieve 1% of the time ).
I check XDA almost every day since. I must say that the "reading thing" may sound challenging for some people. You'll ask me why?
What follows is about novice users for the most part who don't know about/how to use the search function. Try reading a thread where 100 users come each and every day writing the same thing about the same problem over and over. And over again...
Trying to find the relevant posts in-between all this mess is sometimes quite discouraging.
I'm lucky to have affinity with English and of course it's a lot easier to read and find infos when I need them. Google translate became really nice with time. Yet i find myself using it, since English is not my native language and I learned it the hard way. Sometimes it's sad to see people not using such a powerful tool.
People, please use the search function! Take some time to read. If you don't get it, use an online translator. :good:
PS: Hopefully I didn't derail too much from the OP with this post... I'll delete it if needed.
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From the beginning, searching for the answer - did someone else have the same situation and fix it(?) - THIS always seemed easier and more gratifying than waiting for someone to answer me on a thread
Actually, I was flashing macks ROM, then CM on my note 2 and I didn't even KNOW XDA existed. I was so grateful when I found it. Especially when I got this phone. With Google ai, now it seems so much easier to do a quick search on the web
Bobbaloo said:
From the beginning, searching for the answer - did someone else have the same situation and fix it(?) - THIS always seemed easier and more gratifying than waiting for someone to answer me on a thread
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Yeah I know how you feel! At least for me having no real technical knowledge, I'm always glad to find the solutions by myself. Since it's around and just needs a search it's even faster than waiting for an answer. Also, since I only need to search when my phone is broken, I simply can't wait for someone to answer. Imagine no one replied during two days...
Bobbaloo said:
Actually, I was flashing macks ROM, then CM on my note 2 and I didn't even KNOW XDA existed. I was so grateful when I found it. Especially when I got this phone. With Google ai, now it seems so much easier to do a quick search on the web
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This is the first place I found when I started to flash my HTC vision back in 2008. I started reading guides and development and was like: WTF these guys are cracking bootloader, carrier unlocking, etc... And all can be found so easily... :good:

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