nooooooooooooooooo
there is really no use of this topic... except to vent (no abusive words)
go ahead and vent !!!
It's a hacked ROM, and not a lot of things work, but yeah...it IS frustrating.
WM6 on Prophet? Is that a big deal? Even if you're "only" running WM5 on your Hermes, your phone is still better. I used to own an i-mate JAMin and I find my new JASJAM a nice upgrade.
we cant even flash cooked roms yet on the hermes.. so just be patient, as soon as we master that i am sure that a WM6 version will surface
Does Anybody know about WM6 for O2 XDA Stealth ?
Thanks.
welcome to xda-developers... on the top right hand part of your screen... there is a search function... use it..
short answer... no chance...
And the slightly longer answer (I wish all those nagging newbies would read this...): O2 took a long time getting WM5 to work right on the Atom line. When I bought mine, 4-5 months after release, it had barely gotten past the Alpha stage in ROMs! Who wants WM6, which is really nothing that shiny and new, with a ton of new bugs, incompatible software and annoyances?
WM6 on XDA Stealth?!?
And what about the post of user James Ngo from 2007-03-21 17:09 here:
http://www.gsmarena.com/o2_xda_stealth-reviews-1709.php
I can dish out unsubstantiated statements just as well as him: I have Mac OS running on my Atom right now, and it works just like the IPhone. And I dual boot with Linux Ubuntu, when I want to. See how easy it is?
I do not think there is a chance of getting WM6 on Stealth, It would be ubber cool thou
STEAlth User
i want to shift to wm6
WM6 for Stealth!
(Chinese language)
http://www.ppchome.net/bbs/viewthread.php?tid=17467&extra=page=1
I've got an Orange M3100 and i'm thinking of upgrading it to WM6 but I want to ask a question.
Is it really worth it?
Please answer truthfully, those of you that have done it what are the real pro's of do it.
If you can follow directions in the Wiki and are not totally retarded you will be fine upgrading to WM 6. I'm using the Cingular build here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=308378
It works flawlessly. I haven' thad any issue and battery life has been excellent.
Do you need WM6? Nope.
Is it nice? Yes
Reason enough for me are the bug fixes over WM5 and HTM email support in Poutlook. That alone is enough of a reason for me.
Enjoy.
Put me down as a "YES"
Although I agree that WM6 isn't something worth upgrading for on it's own, I have found something that is. On my original WM5 T-Mobile ROM I was resetting the phone at least once a day because of freezes. Since the second generation WM6 ROM here, I've only ever had one freeze - and that was when I was being frankly stupid with about 20 installs in one go!
Is it worth upgrading for WM6? Maybe
Is it worth upgrading to a rock solid, reliable phone? Definitely!
another pointless thread... guys why dont you read the wiki??? or use the search function...
and if you dont like WM6 you can always revert back... jesus mate... try something for yourself for once...
For the shear use of a "phone", upgrading isn't necessary or even worth it...if ya just care about using the phone for calling WM5 is fine. However, if you're like me and want to tweak your phone, then there's a ton of pros for upgrading to WM6. Speed for one, more memory, better tweaks than the stock ROM, and a more stable OS IMHO. I like being apart of a small, but growing percentage of people that take the risk to have the latest ROM released and different than your average Joe with the same phone. People that just make and take calls are boring! Those of us that can turn a cam flash into a flashlight, or integrate a Treo born thread app on a WM6 platform like to be different! I like the risk when flashing, but then again I jumped outta planes and fought in Iraq twice, so my mentality is different than "average".
Good luck in your decision! -fin
walshieau said:
another pointless thread... guys why dont you read the wiki??? or use the search function...
and if you dont like WM6 you can always revert back... jesus mate... try something for yourself for once...
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Always one prick about. I have read the wiki and and know what i'm doing I've been around here for long enough. Read the original post. I'm asking if its really worth it, i'm always messing around with my phone and i'm actually quite happy with the latest ROM from orange. I asking for people personal opinions on the matter.
If you aint got anything constructive to say get the fukk out of here [email protected]
I have an AT&T 8525 arriving tomorrow and I'm so excited by the possibilities... but at the same time I'm just by all the different jargon and things that everyone seems to know about. I'm coming from a Blackjack which I've hacked the crap out of but this just seems so much more complicated. Anyway, hello, if you have any suggestions for someone who has never had an HTC before, please post them up for me, because I really just don't know where to start.
Thanks!
Start here, read and learn
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Hermes
welcome to the club, please read all the Sticky topics on the main page of HERMES Upgrading ect...
if you still have any questions or concerns then post your next question...
happy reading
Oh god... come in sucker.
First of all, before you even start using your phone, SIM unlock it, super CID it, install Bootloader 1.11 but not 1.04 unless you have Olipro 1.02b or you have acces to KITL, then flash every ROM you can find until sleep deprivation affects your marriage your job and you forget the name of your eldest child.
Then after two months of owning a phone that almost never is in a working state, you'll get it stuck in bootloader mode just after you suffered your first white screen of death, and in desperation you will call your carrier with a string of lies and send it back for a replacement.
Then you start the whole process again...
Have fun... not.
esseff said:
Oh god... come in sucker.
First of all, before you even start using your phone, SIM unlock it, super CID it, install Bootloader 1.11 but not 1.04 unless you have Olipro 1.02b or you have acces to KITL, then flash every ROM you can find until sleep deprivation affects your marriage your job and you forget the name of your eldest child.
Then after two months of owning a phone that almost never is in a working state, you'll get it stuck in bootloader mode just after you suffered your first white screen of death, and in desperation you will call your carrier with a string of lies and send it back for a replacement.
Then you start the whole process again...
Have fun... not.
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LOL - that is funny, but a little pessimistic.
If you have hacked your Blackjack to shreads, you will have no problem.
Start with MrVanx Upgrade Guides to see the process.
Then, once you have a feel for the bits and pieces of the process, read through the wiki and forums and you will be able to sort through the threds of relavence. It is really not THAT hard once you have done a little homework.
Most important thing - the first thing you should do is upgrade the SPL to Olipro's HardSPLv7 - do that first - that way you can recover from just about anything.
Rest assured, if you have a little experience, educate yourself and follow the guides to get started, your device will work 99% of the time. Don't fret.
I am also one of those new users and my 8525 is coming in a few days but i'm a bit technical about computers so i tend to grab it quickly, i DON'T want to play around with my mobile, i just want to unlock it, then put it to some good windows mobile 6, and then forget about it till windows mobile 7 comes, does that mean i use pof's sim unlocker v3a to unlock my phone...
alternative is Hard-SPL, if thati have seen that making your phone supercid seems dangerous and the safer s true i simply apply hard-spl on my phone? (though i don't even know what it does if its a utility or a piece of code integrated into your phone or a custom bootloader ), after applying hardspl, i simply follow the legitimate official instructions to install TyTN Mobile 6 official rom as if my 8525 was a HTC TyTN?
I just want my final goal to be Mobile 6.0 Unlocked in the safest go...
encryptedmaniac said:
I am also one of those new users and my 8525 is coming in a few days but i'm a bit technical about computers so i tend to grab it quickly, i DON'T want to play around with my mobile, i just want to unlock it, then put it to some good windows mobile 6, and then forget about it till windows mobile 7 comes, does that mean i use pof's sim unlocker v3a to unlock my phone...
alternative is Hard-SPL, if thati have seen that making your phone supercid seems dangerous and the safer s true i simply apply hard-spl on my phone? (though i don't even know what it does if its a utility or a piece of code integrated into your phone or a custom bootloader ), after applying hardspl, i simply follow the legitimate official instructions to install TyTN Mobile 6 official rom as if my 8525 was a HTC TyTN?
I just want my final goal to be Mobile 6.0 Unlocked in the safest go...
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How do you know that WM5 isn't good enough for you? If the only thing you want on your phone is WM6, why didn't you buy one with this pre-installed? Maybe you should spend some more time reading before you get, and break your new toy - all the best links are already posted above and if you'd read them you wouldn't be posting these questions.
todd_jg said:
LOL - that is funny, but a little pessimistic.
If you have hacked your Blackjack to shreads, you will have no problem.
Start with MrVanx Upgrade Guides to see the process.
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Pessimistic?
That link lists no fewer than five operating systems, for one device, all WM6!!!
Which one works??? This is ridiculous!
This is worse than linux!
...head...spinning...
Thanks for the advice to everyone who gave it... I got my Hermes at 1 this afternoon and it's been sitting on my desk, charging and keeping me from really getting any work done all afternoon. I'm going to assume that all the acronyms y'all are throwing at me will be explained in the wikis...
Don't freak them out guys , get it unlock it install official go to bed happy, if you want to go crazy over installing different versions of roms all the time do so but check the safety steps first (many guides here, Mr. Vanx's is a great place to start) mind you there is no 100% safe option and most of the roms are more or less the same, you can always add cab files of things you want, it's better to stick to a clean rom. If you play with it there might be a chance you screw it... badly (even if you know what you're doing)
Me I just updated the official WM6 (which was released sooooo long later) thankfully in your case you don't have to wait.
Either way congrads on the phone and enjoy it, some small issues aside you have a great piece of hardware there.
CSMR said:
Pessimistic?
That link lists no fewer than five operating systems, for one device, all WM6!!!
Which one works??? This is ridiculous!
This is worse than linux!
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Nothing is worse than Linux!!!!!
d.butters said:
I have an AT&T 8525 arriving tomorrow and I'm so excited by the possibilities... but at the same time I'm just by all the different jargon and things that everyone seems to know about. I'm coming from a Blackjack which I've hacked the crap out of but this just seems so much more complicated. Anyway, hello, if you have any suggestions for someone who has never had an HTC before, please post them up for me, because I really just don't know where to start.
Thanks!
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welcome... i was like you for a while... i'm a new hermes 8525 owner too... read and learn before you really dive in... understand the terminology and jargon for a while... get used to using your phone in stock mode for a while before moving forward... being familiar with it is important... then the first thing you should install when you decide to is hardspl... good luck...
thanks again to everyone! I have to say that the MrVanx Upgrade Guides link was the best, most helpful thing anyone could have pointed me at - step-by-step instructions to flash my hermes with a new ROM. It was great. The forums also yielded CABs and all sorts of other helpful links that have set me up with a near - perfect phone.
Of course, now I'm bored. what's the next step? 'cooking' my own ROMs? where do I start with that? what are 'kitchens'? I know there's lots out there. thanks again for the help y'all have given!!!
esseff said:
Nothing is worse than Linux!!!!!
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hey now hey now, that's a bit mean. Linux does after all give you the whole house, while Microsoft only gives you the Windows
ok, maybe i'm just causing a bit of trouble hehe... just ignore me hehehe
d.butters said:
thanks again to everyone! I have to say that the MrVanx Upgrade Guides link was the best, most helpful thing anyone could have pointed me at - step-by-step instructions to flash my hermes with a new ROM. It was great. The forums also yielded CABs and all sorts of other helpful links that have set me up with a near - perfect phone.
Of course, now I'm bored. what's the next step? 'cooking' my own ROMs? where do I start with that? what are 'kitchens'? I know there's lots out there. thanks again for the help y'all have given!!!
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So, I can't read your nick without thinking of the Lethal Weapon movie with Chris Rock. He was detective Butters or something. Anywa, I digress...
I think your next logical step is one of two paths:
1. Cooking and coding - either for yourself or for a new release, if you come up with something you think is different or cool for the community - home cooked customization apps are quite popular - settings backup/recover solutions too - fewer options out there for that right now
or
2. Documenting - maybe something you could work with MrVanx on if you want to pick up an area that is not well documented adn try to document it for folks
For cooking, start HERE IN THE WIKI and see what you can figure out. I am not sure if all the latest kitchen releases are in here, but it is a good start. Follow the links then do some additional searches - lot's of cool stuff... enjoy...
Hi All,
after reading many posts and searching for answers to my questions I think this might be the place to post my questions concerning my HTC X7500 ; if not please don't be .. I've just signed on to this -I must say great- forum.
Ok here we go;
I am Dutch and own an X7500 and upgraded to WM6 using Advantage_HTC_NLD_2.21.404.1_1.50.00.00_Ship.exe; as you can see the language is Dutch. No tweaks; just plain WM6.
After several mails to HTC support asking for a DL link for WM6 english (if i'm correct WWE) I was told the WWE version was not due until 2 weeks.. uhuh; X7501 ships with MW6 and in English so there should be sw out there for me. Googling brought me to this lovely site and to Duttythroy's post of 31-08-07. Installing Advantage_HTC_WWE_2.21.405.2_1.50.00.00_Ship.exe failed.
I have several guesses why but am just not sure.
So my 1st question is;
What must I do to install WM6 in English on my X7500? (if it kills my warranty, no problem; just should work). Can I also install the upgrades/updates mentioned in topic "Athena Project Black Touch Edition by PK".. Love how it looks!! if the 'feel' is as well..
The 2nd question(s); Could anyone point me to some specific reading material related to upgrading issues for smartphones? eg HTC's X7500. I'd like to understand the principles of it all. Is sw always HW related or are there some 'baselines'? Is a ROM, phone specific? Is firmware referred to as ROM? Those basic things.
Why these last questions? I'm a former IT engineer/manager who stepped out of IT business and ... opened a restaurant. IT is still a hobby but I 'miss' the last 3 years of phone sw selfeducation..
Thx for any reactions and any time anyone will spend on my post.
cheers,
Hans
Hansimaus said:
Hi All,
after reading many posts and searching for answers to my questions I think this might be the place to post my questions concerning my HTC X7500 ; if not please don't be .. I've just signed on to this -I must say great- forum.
Ok here we go;
I am Dutch and own an X7500 and upgraded to WM6 using Advantage_HTC_NLD_2.21.404.1_1.50.00.00_Ship.exe; as you can see the language is Dutch. No tweaks; just plain WM6.
After several mails to HTC support asking for a DL link for WM6 english (if i'm correct WWE) I was told the WWE version was not due until 2 weeks.. uhuh; X7501 ships with MW6 and in English so there should be sw out there for me. Googling brought me to this lovely site and to Duttythroy's post of 31-08-07. Installing Advantage_HTC_WWE_2.21.405.2_1.50.00.00_Ship.exe failed.
I have several guesses why but am just not sure.
So my 1st question is;
What must I do to install WM6 in English on my X7500? (if it kills my warranty, no problem; just should work). Can I also install the upgrades/updates mentioned in topic "Athena Project Black Touch Edition by PK".. Love how it looks!! if the 'feel' is as well..
The 2nd question(s); Could anyone point me to some specific reading material related to upgrading issues for smartphones? eg HTC's X7500. I'd like to understand the principles of it all. Is sw always HW related or are there some 'baselines'? Is a ROM, phone specific? Is firmware referred to as ROM? Those basic things.
Why these last questions? I'm a former IT engineer/manager who stepped out of IT business and ... opened a restaurant. IT is still a hobby but I 'miss' the last 3 years of phone sw selfeducation..
Thx for any reactions and any time anyone will spend on my post.
cheers,
Hans
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Sorry for such short answers but i'm headed to bed but still wanted to start you off:
Upgrading Phone
- Take out SD card
- Use Olipro's unlocker to SIM/CID unlock your phone (All three steps)...more info on this forum.
- Install ANY Athena (x7500/Dopod/Ameo) ROM you wish (read around and you'll pick up on what others like)...you can do this either from Bootloader or after the ROM sets up.
- Reinstall your programs.
More Info on Phones etc
- Read through this forum
- Check the Wiki (you'll find it if you read through the forum ;-) )
- You can also read through other device threads to gather a little info on what they do. The forum has 90% of what you need already
Maybe someone else will pitch in and answer questions in more detail.....nite all!
Thx a lot Itxda,
I stayed up late also and read myself trough the forum.. took a lot of coffee and some beers Was my day&night off; was fun again to 'dive into' IT related stuff..
I came to the conclusion that I had to follow Olipro's unlock routine 1st, but it's very nice to have it confirmed!
Unfortunately I cannot get sound playing the video from Agent Bignose.. Other video's youtube etc play with sound so.. 1st have to fix that although I have a clue what the vid. msg holds..
After reading trough the - I like it better and better! - forum I expect that the re-installation of my x7500 will go smoothly. ehh hope so
Again thx for the response; If I find the time I will try to make a 'understanding x7500 for dummies' with my experiences which some of you might fine tune. Will save you Senior Members time explaining and will help me understanding the big picture better.
Is that ok with you?
Cheers,
hans
Hansimaus said:
Thx a lot Itxda,
I stayed up late also and read myself trough the forum.. took a lot of coffee and some beers Was my day&night off; was fun again to 'dive into' IT related stuff..
I came to the conclusion that I had to follow Olipro's unlock routine 1st, but it's very nice to have it confirmed!
Unfortunately I cannot get sound playing the video from Agent Bignose.. Other video's youtube etc play with sound so.. 1st have to fix that although I have a clue what the vid. msg holds..
After reading trough the - I like it better and better! - forum I expect that the re-installation of my x7500 will go smoothly. ehh hope so
Again thx for the response; If I find the time I will try to make a 'understanding x7500 for dummies' with my experiences which some of you might fine tune. Will save you Senior Members time explaining and will help me understanding the big picture better.
Is that ok with you?
Cheers,
hans
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Pefection! Just let us know where you get stuck and we'll help along. Take care.
Thx ITxda!
Just one check before I go nuts; Does any of you have sound playing Bignose's Video?
Tried out on several independent systems; nada.
It's not 1st of april. So no sound probably in vid.
Cheers,
hans