Hi, today i got my htc hermes. it comes with a samsung cpu.
now i want gps functionality but right now i am a noob on this terrain.
is it possible to geht gps working?
is it possible to get gps working without hardware mods?
is it tricky to get gps to work?
thanks for your help
There is no internal GPS support in the Hermes.
What if we were up for h/w modding?
Possible then?
Marksman said:
What if we were up for h/w modding?
Possible then?
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This has been long discussed in the past. It looks like the chipset has an integrated GPS but it is not connected. Yes, you might be able to open your device, find the right place, iron on a clean enviroment an antenna, find a room for it in the device box and then close it all together and hope to get anything. However, it is much safer and easier to use a BT GPS receiver.
i have heard...
i have heard that the TyTN has an gps module inside but only the antenna is shortened.
instinctless said:
i have heard that the TyTN has an gps module inside but only the antenna is shortened.
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It has but it is far more disabled than just the antenna, there is no power supply and the board is multi-layered which prevents regular hardware mods anyway. Even if you could do it, it would not be worth it IMHO.
There is a long existing thread on this if you want more info.
It's not even close to being a practicable possibility. As suggested above a small BT receiver works very well anyway and you just keep the BT in your pocket so no real inconveniance.
Mike
ok thank you
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I'm trying to get a belkin bluetooth gps to work with mapopolis. I am running 1.60WWE version rom. Reading through the forum it looks like one of the easiest solutions to get it to work is to install the pocket bluetooth tools. Does anyone know of an easier way or know of an english rom that will work natively?
TIA
1.60 worked for me. You just have to make sure you pair with the GPS using the Bluetooth settings dialog with the COM ports selected.
Frankly, I think the Belkin Navigation System software (from Netropa) that came with the Belkin Bluetooth GPS is better than Mapopolis. The Mapopolis voice prompts are unintelligible.
Works for me too without any problem... I am just using Pocket Bluetooth tools... (T-Mo 1.60 ROM) And the software that came with it is perfect for my need as of right now. I never tried any navigation software but I like it very much.
Also I flash my XT mode to use XT2 and it works like a charm. Flashes it with Fortuna clip-on software. All instruction is on www.gpspassion.com (But you're voiding your warranty!)
Good luck!
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Works for me too without any problem... I am just using Pocket Bluetooth tools... (T-Mo 1.60 ROM) And the software that came with it is perfect for my need as of right now. I never tried any navigation software but I like it very much.
Also I flash my XT mode to use XT2 and it works like a charm. Flashes it with Fortuna clip-on software. All instruction is on www.gpspassion.com (But you're voiding your warranty!)
Good luck!
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What is the advantage of going to the XT2 version instead of just staying in ST?
Thanks,
Andy
XTrac is a mode that allows for greater accuracy in marginal GPS Signal reception areas (tree cover, urban canyons, indoors etc), XTracV2 is an enhanced version of this with even greater signal sensitivity.
The downsides ox XTrac are a marginal increase in the delay before position is reported which may be unwelcome when utilised for in-car raod navigation.
See our Fortuna Clip-On Review (the Belkin GPS is a re-badge of this model) which contains a detailed explanation of XTrac.
andygee said:
superperry said:
Works for me too without any problem... I am just using Pocket Bluetooth tools... (T-Mo 1.60 ROM) And the software that came with it is perfect for my need as of right now. I never tried any navigation software but I like it very much.
Also I flash my XT mode to use XT2 and it works like a charm. Flashes it with Fortuna clip-on software. All instruction is on www.gpspassion.com (But you're voiding your warranty!)
Good luck!
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What is the advantage of going to the XT2 version instead of just staying in ST?
Thanks,
Andy
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griffog said:
XTrac is a mode that allows for greater accuracy in marginal GPS Signal reception areas (tree cover, urban canyons, indoors etc), XTracV2 is an enhanced version of this with even greater signal sensitivity.
The downsides ox XTrac are a marginal increase in the delay before position is reported which may be unwelcome when utilised for in-car raod navigation.
See our Fortuna Clip-On Review (the Belkin GPS is a re-badge of this model) which contains a detailed explanation of XTrac.
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Yeap! That's the advantage of XT2 accuracy and reception. And with XT2 warm-up or cold start (cant remember what you call it) is a bit faster than ST, most of the time I get a locked on satellite in less than 20 secs.
And about delay while driving, I most of the time using it in my car but I don't see much of a delay. I leave in Seattle, WA and most of the time weather is cloudy and or raining. I am using XT2 since I upgraded it.
Can someone post the upgrade program here? Apparently, Fortuna has removed it from their web site again.
Thanks in advance!
Can somebody recommend what they would consider to be "the best" GPS software. Am I right in thinking tomtom is pretty good. Main usage would be on foot navigation. Extensive and up to date map coverae would be crucial.
Thanks!
Edit: pocetpc software I mean! (Fairly obvious I know but I thought I should clarify :wink: )
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Can someone post the upgrade program here? Apparently, Fortuna has removed it from their web site again.
Thanks in advance!
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I don't have the software anymore but go to this forum and learn more and I think on page 10 there's a download links....
http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=12597&whichpage=1
I hope this help!
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Can someone post the upgrade program here? Apparently, Fortuna has removed it from their web site again.
Thanks in advance!
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Here you go.
Andy
Fortuna help!
I am in London and cannot pick up a stelite for the life of me in ST mode?? Is this an urban canyon/wheather issue, or a nad TT3 install issue? I can only read satelites in XT mode??? Have other city users experienced this issue?
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Bluetooth GPS problems with Mapopolis
I have read over this thread but can't tell if my problem is related. I have the emtac bluetooth gps receiver and Mapopolis installled on my XDAII. It seems to bond and communicate well but when I start the mapopolis software it freezes up. It seems to be running very slowly.
Any suggestions?
Tomtom3
Can somebody recommend what they would consider to be "the best" GPS software. Am I right in thinking tomtom is pretty good. Main usage would be on foot navigation. Extensive and up to date map coverae would be crucial.
Thanks!
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I have tried both SmartST from Navman and Tomtom3 and I must say that I prefer the latter. Navman's solution is nice and feature rich but the navigation is sucky. Sometimes it can even navigate in circles... amazing :roll:
I did some investigation and made GPS work to get the satellite Fix.But the Comm Port is very much differrent and now need to b checked further so that the other apps such as Tom Tom, etc can use the port.To my Surprise the Protocol is Qualcomm and Comm Port is SMD 7.Here are the pics attached.
ALso some pics of Wi Fi.
I hope someone here can make it work..
Excellent
How did you manage to get GPS to get a fix on this?
thanks
HI Hdubli!
VERY VERY excellent!
...so let me understand: Are you trying to switch on the GPS system inside the Dual?
How can i see the same pics of your?
Thk
hdubli said:
I did some investigation and made GPS work to get the satellite Fix.But the Comm Port is very much differrent and now need to b checked further so that the other apps such as Tom Tom, etc can use the port.To my Surprise the Protocol is Qualcomm and Comm Port is SMD 7.Here are the pics attached.
ALso some pics of Wi Fi.
I hope someone here can make it work..
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...you know u become the master of touch when getting this to work...Best luck and keep us informed...
Thank you for your kind investigation
Oh baby!! GPS, wifi and unlock would be the best combination ever
Let us know about your progress at the GPS area...
Good work!
Regards,
LoGiKZ
I used HTC GPS tool and some gps related DLLs.I will post the files and procedure once I get the GPS apps to use that port.
Perfect Hdubli....
You are right about GPS... I've already seen a device with GPS turned ON in Dual....as i wrote in my last post.
Good Luck and keep us in contact!
Bye
Typical, I ordered my HTC Touch on Friday (Arrived today), Then someone posts something like this.
Well thanks to good 'ol Orange My HTC Touch Dual will be here wednesday
I just hope now that this can be acheived, as I didn't really want to loose Wi-Fi, but having GPS builtin will be worth it.
And if I can help by dumping files from either device I'll gladly do it.
the chipset is definetly supporting GPS, but without a build-in antenna, I believe you won't have a good signal
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the chipset is definetly supporting GPS, but without a build-in antenna, I believe you won't have a good signal
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Yeah..thats what i thought....hopefully theres an antenna in there.
So hdubli...have you actually managed to get satellite lock?
PseudoReal how can you say it?
Do you think that there is not a built-in antenna in this device?
Anyway... we all are interested in this new stuff!
come on guys... i now you can find the way to un-lock them!!
J273 said:
So hdubli...have you actually managed to get satellite lock?
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He says right in the very first post that he managed to get a lock using the internal HTC app:
hdubli said:
I did some investigation and made GPS work to get the satellite Fix.
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hdubli, keep up the great work!
You will be a hero to many people on this board if you can get GPS working with TomTom, etc
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You will be a hero to many people on this board if you can get GPS working with TomTom, etc
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Oh yes!! He will be a hero for sure
By the way, i know that this isn't the right thread, but anyone here knows how can i SIM unlock my dual? and by the way, is there any WWE rom around the corner?
Thanks in advance,
LoGiKZ
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PseudoReal how can you say it?
Do you think that there is not a built-in antenna in this device?
Anyway... we all are interested in this new stuff!
come on guys... i now you can find the way to un-lock them!!
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There is no built-in antenna because of space limitations. I have heard this from a person working for a company selling the DUAL.
Funny how people think.
The qualcomm chip can undoubtedly handle the wifi & the gps.
But the chipset only won't do much good without an *antenna*, for wifi or gps.
You know, the thing that actually gets the signal, just like the one you need to have to watch TV.
An antenna costs money. There is absolutely no way HTC would build a phone with antennas for gps & wifi, without putting support for it in it just for licensing reasons.
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He says right in the very first post that he managed to get a lock using the internal HTC app:
hdubli, keep up the great work!
You will be a hero to many people on this board if you can get GPS working with TomTom, etc
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Oh yeah...sorry missed that.
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Funny how people think.
The qualcomm chip can undoubtedly handle the wifi & the gps.
But the chipset only won't do much good without an *antenna*, for wifi or gps.
You know, the thing that actually gets the signal, just like the one you need to have to watch TV.
An antenna costs money. There is absolutely no way HTC would build a phone with antennas for gps & wifi, without putting support for it in it just for licensing reasons.
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fully agree!
Hasn't IceHack mentioned though that he's seen a dual with Wifi and GPS working with tomtom....which must mean it has the antenna.
Also wasn't it the same with the p3600 at release the GPS didnt work and it wasn't in the specs but later rom updates unlocked the GPS......... and the same with the s730 smartphone,not in the actual specs but present in the hardware.
So im hoping this is the case with the Dual ....all the hardware's there including antenna just needs unlocking with future rom updates or hacks.
Hopefully thats the case anyway..gps and wifi in the dual would be perfect and a great replacment for my kaiser.
keep up the good work.
Yes guys, as I told you I saw a Dual with this functions active!
i'm sure that was not a MicroSd - Wifi or and GPS BT near to the device!
As happened with my P3300 I saw excatly the same ways of connects....
Now, I really don't know how to do that... even if I don't think that HTC's has decided to unmount the antenna but leaving these settings in it!
Don't you think it doesn't make so much sense?!
I haven't seen a firm answer yet, so question. Is activating bluetooth/gps a hardware mod, software/rom, or not possible on NT?
Sent from my spoofed galaxy nexus via tapatalk.
Nobody knows for sure yet because it hasn't yet been done and published. In theory bluetooth can be activated by software though. I'd venture to guess the same is true for GPS.
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Nobody knows for sure yet because it hasn't yet been done and published. In theory bluetooth can be activated by software though. I'd venture to guess the same is true for GPS.
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Both could potentially be "activated", because the chip does support it... but that doesn't mean that it will be worth anything. The GPS almost certainly does not have an antenna on it, and the BT range will likely be crap like on the NookColor for the same reason (no antenna.)
So, the GPS even if we get it working, will still be useless for its intended purpose, while the BT might be able to get working for a very-short-range. (2~3 feet?)
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Both could potentially be "activated", because the chip does support it... but that doesn't mean that it will be worth anything. The GPS almost certainly does not have an antenna on it, and the BT range will likely be crap like on the NookColor for the same reason (no antenna.)
So, the GPS even if we get it working, will still be useless for its intended purpose, while the BT might be able to get working for a very-short-range. (2~3 feet?)
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I would venture that when the bluetooth is enabled, we'd be able to use the fm radio app cause it uses the headphone cable as an antenna. But isn't 2-3 feet ok for a bluetooth ear piece so you can skype or googletalk with it?
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I would venture that when the bluetooth is enabled, we'd be able to use the fm radio app cause it uses the headphone cable as an antenna. But isn't 2-3 feet ok for a bluetooth ear piece so you can skype or googletalk with it?
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Could the gps also use headphones as an antennae?
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Could the gps also use headphones as an antennae?
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There is only three ways to know.
1. Build a custom rom that supports GPS and Bluetooth, then try it out.
2. Wait till the devs build you a custom rom, and find out.
3. Consult your crystal ball. =]
Heck,
the only reason why I want bluetooth enabled is do I can use a bluetooth keyboard. (which I know they where able to do with the Nook Color)
I want to use my ps3 controller to play emulators like I do with my phone. It would be such a better experience on the 7" then on my Epic 4G.
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Heck,
the only reason why I want bluetooth enabled is do I can use a bluetooth keyboard. (which I know they where able to do with the Nook Color)
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I would REALLY like this also. Add in a bluetooth webcam and I am an overly happy kid!
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I want to use my ps3 controller to play emulators like I do with my phone. It would be such a better experience on the 7" then on my Epic 4G.
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Sadly there is just no way to know until an alpha of CM9 is out for the NT. They are very close, so it shouldn't be long now. Once that's done, we will have have facts instead of speculation.
I want to build a bluetooth airplane and control it with my NT of doom!!!!!!!
Thanks all for the responses. I personally want to see if we could use pre-cached google maps and use the NT as for some low level gps navigation without a tether to a smartphone.
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would love to se BT work, I have two of these: "pharos-pocket-gps-navigator: and it would be great for the vehicle. Sorry, new to this forum and it will not let me post links.
Im running the Malaysk ROM for RK3188 on my Eonon GA5153F
Since flashing the Malaysk ROM my bluetooth settings keep reverting to default, carkit device name etc.
Even if I manage to change them and even hold the settings for a coupe of boots on rare occasions they always revert to carkit and the default pin.
This problem has repeated over 2 versions of the ROM and posting in the Malaysk RK3188 thread brought nothing useful in the way of info.
Anyone have any ideas or suggestions how to sort this out, its very annoying and I desperately need bluetooth handsfree back for work purposes.
Dont know if its relevant - I also have the GA5153F and although everything was fine with Malaysks 4.4. ROM - when i updated to his 5.1 version - bluetooth did not work until I changed the bluetooth adapter in Factory Settings to the non "b" version (same model number) since then it works great.
Yep, youll get nothing with the wrong adapter set.
Unfortunately this is a different fault.
Anybody?
I know others have suffered this problem, doesnt anyone have any other suggestions?
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Anybody?
I know others have suffered this problem, doesnt anyone have any other suggestions?
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Get a Parrot BT. I am using a MKI9200. It is simple to install and call quality is 100x better.
m00n61 said:
Get a Parrot BT. I am using a MKI9200. It is simple to install and call quality is 100x better.
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Im sure it is, but it doesnt help solve the real fault with the kit Ive already purchased, fitted, and seriously need to function as I regularly need to take calls when driving, Im a courier.
Frankly I didnt have any call quality issues when it was working, its the total lack of function thats a bit of an issue!
Is this a hardware fault? Is it a Rom fault? IS it a media board fault? IS it as simple as a file somewhere being over written or with bad permissions?
Non b worked for me but now I have no wifi
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mindriot said:
Im sure it is, but it doesnt help solve the real fault with the kit Ive already purchased, fitted, and seriously need to function as I regularly need to take calls when driving, Im a courier.
Frankly I didnt have any call quality issues when it was working, its the total lack of function thats a bit of an issue!
Is this a hardware fault? Is it a Rom fault? IS it a media board fault? IS it as simple as a file somewhere being over written or with bad permissions?
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It is essentially a manufacturer (software) issue. Malaysk has mentioned somewhere that Chinese developers messed up the BT stack. You must understand that these units use a plethora of BT boards from various suppliers AND in various HW revisions. Nobody will work on a universal BT service that accommodates all these boards. Your best bet, if you want to use the on-board BT, is to find a ROM that works, through trial and error, and stay with that one.
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It is essentially a manufacturer (software) issue. Malaysk has mentioned somewhere that Chinese developers messed up the BT stack. You must understand that these units use a plethora of BT boards from various suppliers AND in various HW revisions. Nobody will work on a universal BT service that accommodates all these boards. Your best bet, if you want to use the on-board BT, is to find a ROM that works, through trial and error, and stay with that one.
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Thanks I am aware of the hardware diversity. It is frustrating that these companies have a weak attitude to stability. However the original rom had functional Bluetooth, and the Malaysk rom is supposed to be based upon it, thats what is also frustrating.
I tried posting in the Malaysk thread but it was largely ignored, scoffed at and lost in all the noise.
Anyone else?
Hi,
I'm not able to activate wifi anymore (even after a full Odin restoration) on my SM-T820. So I guess the wifi chipset is dead. Is anyone here has to changed it?
Kholargol said:
Hi,
I'm not able to activate wifi anymore (even after a full Odin restoration) on my SM-T820. So I guess the wifi chipset is dead. Is anyone here has to changed it?
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Is Bluetooth working?
This is a 2nd hand tab that I got at low price one because BT wasn't working (wifi was working flawless)
I didn't care because I don't need BT but now, I find out it was the same chipset for both and realize I should have been more careful.
Kholargol said:
This is a 2nd hand tab that I got at low price one because BT wasn't working (wifi was working flawless)
I didn't care because I don't need BT but now, I find out it was the same chipset for both and realize I should have been more careful.
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So neither works.
Pretty much out of luck unless your prepared to use a mobile data dongle or a usb ethernet adapter.
Unless you're skilled at smd and bga removal then repair us pretty much out of the question.
ashyx said:
So neither works.
Pretty much out of luck unless your prepared to use a mobile data dongle or a usb ethernet adapter.
Unless you're skilled at smd and bga removal then repair us pretty much out of the question.
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Perhaps there are some USB-C wifi dongle somewhere, It's mostly for a home usage. I will check. It would be a good way to extend my tab's life without reducing my wallet's one !
Kholargol said:
Perhaps there are some USB-C wifi dongle somewhere, It's mostly for a home usage. I will check. It would be a good way to extend my tab's life without reducing my wallet's one !
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I doubt there's anything specific due to drivers being an issue.
You may get lucky if you find out which chipset the tablet uses then try and find a dongle that has the same chipset.
You would need to connect it via OTG.
Won't be easy
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Won't be easy
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Have you considered a Bluetooth dongle via OTG? Certain dongles may work.
Here in the states we have https://www.ubreakifix.com/ so you may see if there is some similar service near you.
I asked for repair quotation and it's around 120 euros. Still searching for a compatible BT or Wifi Dongle