I was wondering if anyone here knew if it could be possible to upgrade the 2.5 mm headset jack to a 3.5 mm headset jack without the use of an adapter. I'm not worried about the microphone, just the stereo headphones.
What I am trying to find out is has anyone ever modified their WIZARD to have a 3.5mm headphone jack INSTEAD of a 2.5mm headset jack?
Could it even be possible?
Just a guess, but I don't think it will be possible since the 3.5mm jack is going to require greater depth and the opening is liable to not be large enough. I'd just get a 2.5mm-3.5mm adapter and be done with it personally.
I hadn't thought of that... I suppose you're right though. Better to be safe and not risk damaging my wizard too...
http://ishop.sunrise.ru/goodsdesc.p...amount=*****&HauseCode=00009&goods_guaranty=6
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Aint gonna work on a wizard (only on newer htc phones) u'll need a 2,5 to 3,5 jackplug adaptor:
or you could spring for some 2.5mm headphones. some of the ones i saw on ebay get really good sound quality
The jack is soldered onto the main board. Since these things all work with SM technology, if you don't know surface mount soldering techniques, you'll fry the phone. An adaptor is cheaper and safer....
Yanktar03 said:
The jack is soldered onto the main board. Since these things all work with SM technology, if you don't know surface mount soldering techniques, you'll fry the phone. An adaptor is cheaper and safer....
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I do have adequate soldering skills and that's actually more of what I was looking to do. Do you know of anything like that or if it is even possible?
dharvey4651 said:
I do have adequate soldering skills and that's actually more of what I was looking to do. Do you know of anything like that or if it is even possible?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
doing it yourself sounds like maaaaaaad fun but i dont think i'd risk my fone
The 3.5mm adapters are too easy to use - but if you have your heart set on not using one, I would see it as easier making the conversion to the headphones than in the restricted space and with the high cost of failure in the phone.
I think both my converters cost a couple of quid, but the first was a solid one which i got rid of as its too impractical having such a long projection from your phone, or at least I found this when it was in my Krusell case on my belt.
It was also a pain on flights with the rigid adaptor, as I was using noise cancelling headphones, and a 4xAA battery extender, so my shirt pocket was getting too cluttered, but the adaptor with the cable again made it work.
Why would you want to solder on the wizard.
Just get a decent quality 2.5mm stereo jack, some good ordinary headset en combine the two.
It's a lot easier (and cheaper if you mess up) to solder 4 wires together than to solder some miniature audio jack in a cramped area.
uhhh radio shack? that is where i got my two. one for headphones. (before i got my bt's) and one for car. cassette adapter to phone. old skool ghetto.
5$ for two i think. or i have seen javoedge have some also.
****e. i thought you were talking about external.
My experience with the audio jack is as follows... it is kind of proprietary. I once took a picture of the jack that comes with the phone and an off the shelf 2.5mm jack. I'm not sure if I would replace the jack even it were possible, but the quirkiness of the jack created some issues for me until I discovered it was indeed non standard.
My pic and posts re: this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1033525#post1033525
Related
I've seen a few threads about headphone adaptors, but haven't seen a definitive answer to my query, so I hope I'm not going over old ground.
I'm looking for a cable that plugs into my Wizard (O2 XDA Mini-S) at one end and at the other end has a mic, a clip (to attach it to clothes), and a socket for standard 3.5mm headphones - through which it will provide true stereo (not dual mono) sound. It needs to be a reasonable length, so that I can have my phone in my pocket and clip the mic to my collar.
If it can provide FM radio into the bargain (and take any necessary power from the Wizard) that'd be even better, but it's by no means essential.
Any recommendations (especially in the UK)?
Thanks,
Robb
Whoo Hoo!
I've been keeping an eye out for something like this too... and I think I've finally found some!
http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=202331964&listingid=11338726&dcaid=17902
http://www.aftermarketcellular.com/ic/ARM010VSEB.html
I'm going to do a bit more shopping before I buy anything but I'll post a review once I do.
check this out http://www.expansys.com/htc/p_htc_item.aspx?i=140285
I'd be afraid the Samsung one wouldn't work with the Wizard. It says several times it is for the listed models ONLY. It might be a standard plug, but I seem to recall seeing someone posting (probly on another forum) about problems using some 2.5mm connectors with the Wizard. The LG one might have the same problem, but both could also work fine.
I really like that HTC Bluetooth one! I wonder if I can get it in the US. How good is the sound quality over bluetooth?
It's true, not all 2.5 mm plugs are wired the same. I've had to open up the last one I bought and rewire it to make it work with the Wizard.
Watch Expansys - their web site (and their staff) are wrong.
Like many people on this forum, I have an O2 XDA Mini-S. When looking for a headphone adapter, I searched for a 'htc wizard headphone adapter' and was led to this unit by the search: http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=127181
When you look at this adapter you can see that it includes this unit: http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=118289
This is actually a different animal. This has a Mfr Part #: PPCPADPT15,eXpansys Code: 118289. This is an adapter for an O2 XDA III, not a Mini-S (it says so on the envelope)
When I repeat my search on PPCTech's web site I get this page (via tinyurl) http://tinyurl.com/2hkdym This shows that the adapter for an HTC wizard, or an O2 Mini-S is actually a PPCPADPT11, not a PPCPADPT15.
I tried to return the adapter and asked for the correct adapter for my phone only to be told by an arrogant and ignorant sales person that what I have is the correct adapter. He's been "selling these for four years and he knows what he is talking about" I tell him that sound only comes from one earpiece, and he says this is normal - you only get mono from this adapter. Utter rubbish!
Has anyone else worked out if the PPCPADPT11 is correct? If so, how did they convince eXpansys?
Cheers
markbloke said:
It's true, not all 2.5 mm plugs are wired the same. I've had to open up the last one I bought and rewire it to make it work with the Wizard.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yep, happen to own a: http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/cellphone/7830/
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Just the speaker works, the button and mike don't. I don't know if I broke something but it has got a 4 ring 2.5mm jack. it also aught to be pretty easy rewiring because of the standard 4p4c modular RJ10 connector. According to their website it should: "will work with most phones (Motorola, LG, Samsung)".
I've done some sporadic attempts to find a wiring schemes of the Wizard's jack connector but hadn't have much luck, would love to go B100 style sometimes!!!
SavCom said:
Has anyone else worked out if the PPCPADPT11 is correct?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
All good, guys. PPCPADPT11 works just fine.
SavCom said:
All good, guys. PPCPADPT11 works just fine.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I noticed on the that site is says the internal microphone will not work. Does that mean the jack only has 2 poles? A left/right audio out. No audio in for a microphone?
I am looking for an adapter i can use with an Iphone headset with line mic.
curious george said:
I noticed on the that site is says the internal microphone will not work. Does that mean the jack only has 2 poles? A left/right audio out. No audio in for a microphone?
I am looking for an adapter i can use with an Iphone headset with line mic.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
3.5MM Jacks never have 4 rings... At least, I've never seen one.
@SavCom: Sorry, I misread your post...
tkteun said:
3.5MM Jacks never have 4 rings... At least, I've never seen one.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sorry, meant 3 rings and 3 input/outputs. 2 audio and 1 mic.
Fitted the ear buds from my 2 day old CX200,s onto the stock HTC mic/earphones cable.
It was very easy to do and a great improvement over the standard phones.
I could never get the standard phones to stay in my ear properly and were very uncomfortable (small ears I guess).
Anyway here is the pic,s , let them do the talking
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Great job! I was just going about to do this but at the plug end. I was going to connect the extUSB plug to my current headphones, but this is a lot better.
I will never doubt the reasons for the hacks people do...some just do it for the hell of it and I am all for that.
But....I have to ask: Why?
3n1 adapter...and no re-wireing.
But excellently cool that you did it...although it is not really clear what you did. Did you take the tiny ear speakers and put them in the stock headphone cases or...?
wergeld said:
I will never doubt the reasons for the hacks people do...some just do it for the hell of it and I am all for that.
But....I have to ask: Why?
3n1 adapter...and no re-wireing.
But excellently cool that you did it...although it is not really clear what you did. Did you take the tiny ear speakers and put them in the stock headphone cases or...?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have the 3in1 adapter, but I think it is to bulky when travelling on the train and I can not use the stock speakers as they keep falling out of my ear and they are uncomfortable for me.
What I have done, is remove the stock speakers from the stock cable and then fitted Sennheiser cx200(these are the in-ear type) speaker to the stock cable.
So now I have the best of both worlds, stock cable with mic, dont have to use bulky 3in1 adapter when out n about and better fit/sound quality for my ears.
did you get improved audio quality as well? or was it bottlenecked by the HTC wireing?
Freedomcaller said:
did you get improved audio quality as well? or was it bottlenecked by the HTC wireing?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well I am not sure about the wiring, I was talking about CX200 ear-buds sounding much better on the stock HTC cable, than the stock HTC earphones on the stock HTC cable.
I could hardly hear any low end sounds with the stock HTC earphones.
To me both cables sound very similar, maybe the HTC cable possibly not being just as loud, could be the in-line volume control or volume not being set right when being encoded to mp3.
The CX200 sound ok for budget range and my ears would not be the best for judging sound quality(years of extremely loud music - raves 1989 - 1995) and a bit of tinnitus.
Aha. Cool idea.
I have the same problem...small ears and the earphones are for some giant head.
I use some over ear buds with the 3in1 adapter.
Getting the bluetooth "dogtag" adapter in the mail shortly.
I bought a pair of Retractable Dual Earbud & Microphone Headset made my ReTrak.
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Unfortunately, the current miniUSB to 3.5 adaptor available on eBay does not support Mic pass through
and the HTC multi-adaptor is just to big for my liking.
So.... I decided to make my own miniUSB to 3.5 WITH mic pass through using the HTC adaptor. It was not too difficult, so you might want to try for yourself.
NEEDED:
-multimeter (or just use my diagram, if the adaptor is the same as yours)
-soldering iron
-razor
-wire cutters
-electrical tape
-shrink tubing
PROCESS:
Open the big boy up and remove the circuit board.
Use a multimeter to determine which wire color goes on the 3.5mm port. Remove 3.5 port and wires from circuit board. Remove unnecessary wires from cable, making sure no wires contact each other (cut at slightly different lengths).
Solder the appropriate wire to the corresponding spot on the 3.5mm port. Then test out your work BEFORE you button everything up.
Try to make the wire nice and neat.
Wrap some electrical tape around the wires. All that is left to do is use your heat shrink tubing to finish off your work and make it look all professional.
If you dont want to go threw all of that
You can just buy this
http://cgi.ebay.com/Headphone-Adapt...286.m7QQ_trkparmsZalgo=LVI&itu=UCI&otn=2&ps=6
i purchase one and i love it
I don't see anywhere in that eBay auction that the adapter allows mic pass through. Dose it allow mic pass through? That was the only reason I used the HTC adapter, because it allows mic pass through. I already have the first adapter above, but was not happy with just headphones.
UPDATE.... YOU DO NOT KNOW HOW TO READ BEFORE YOU POST!!!! THAT ADAPTER DOES NOT HAVE MIC PASS THROUGH... PLEASE READ ALL OF A POST BEFORE YOU RESPOND NEXT TIME.
THANKS
Are all 6 leads required for the 3.5mm female jack?
Can you provide the pinout for the extusb to a 4conductor 3.5mm male jack?
nvm.....found it here. Very interesting site showing the pinout configuration for the extusb.
http://pinouts.ru/PDA/htc_extUSB_pinout.shtml
ITT: People who should've bought the Telus TP2.
yup.... but unfortunately I am on ATT... so I do what I got to do
Thanks lokmeup
This is very useful and valuable info!
Hope Mods agree this could be a sticky
Cheers,
Very nicely done. Any plans on selling these?
Shipping problem.
I own a HTC Gene. It does not have 3.5mm audio jack and in my country no adapter is available. Neither in shops nor online. And I want to use regular headphones. Any idea how can I make one connector cable by joining extUSB sync cable and 3.5mm female audio jack?
http://www.daydeal.com/product.php?productid=15783
akshay2000 said:
I own a HTC Gene. It does not have 3.5mm audio jack and in my country no adapter is available. Neither in shops nor online. And I want to use regular headphones. Any idea how can I make one connector cable by joining extUSB sync cable and 3.5mm female audio jack?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Use this info and a multimeter to figure out what goes where.
mda71 said:
nvm.....found it here. Very interesting site showing the pinout configuration for the extusb.
http://pinouts.ru/PDA/htc_extUSB_pinout.shtml
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
G'day,
Just bought a set of sony earphones for 70 or 80 bucks with an inline mic with volume control. They're branded as being "Made for iPhone", though I figured that wouldn't be an issue. Turns out it may be, because if i plug them in to my X10 any sound that comes out of them in impossibly distorted. If I hold down the play/pause button, the sound is fine.
If anyone has had similar issues and/or has found a solution for this I would very much like to here from you.
Cheers
That's because the wires for the tip and last ring of the jack are switched for iPhone. I don't know if there's an adaptor available, but you can make your own or just cut / resplice the cable.
what do you mean with "resplice"?
Can't find any definition
I mean cut the cable and then solder them in the correct order
Or, if you don't need the mic, you can ranger-rig it by tying a bind knot around the button like I did.
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
kxhawkins said:
Or, if you don't need the mic, you can ranger-rig it by tying a bind knot around the button like I did.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm not so competent at soldering but I have wrapped sticky tape around it which works. Cheers for your help guys.
Sent from my X10 TripNMiUI using XDA Premium App
Just want to share my solution
Just use 3.5mm to 6.35mm and 6.35mm to 3.5mm together only can get stereo volume no mic and button. I have ipod touch 4 and SE x10. I use my x10 stock earphone on my ipod touch 4 it work.
That must be ridiculously bulky and fragile.
Bulky is ok but fragile I disagree. Quite useful solution just simply unplug from the 'combination' that plug to ipod and plug to my x10 then I can make call without swap another pair of earphone.
Sent from my X10i using XDA App
Its got to stick way out which would make it easy to break, and really hard on the phone.
Check this out: http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000YBY2U4/ref=redir_mdp_mobile/187-9923423-2387257?ref_=pd_rhf_shvl_2
The best solution mic and control function retain
https://www.meelec.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=ADPTR-TRRS-35
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
MEElectronics now carries a 3.5mm to 3.5mm TRRS adapter that reverses the microphone and ground pins, enabling our P version headsets to work with many Nokia, Sony Ericsson, and Samsung phones they previously did not work with, This adapter will allow you to retain the mic/remote function of the P version of our products, however specific remote and mic compatibility is dependent on the actual phone.
You can use coupon code TRRS_ADAPTER for a discount with the purchase of a MEE P version headphone
3.5mm TRRS 4 conductor Male Plug
3.5mm TRRS 4 conductor Female Jack
Adapter Pinout: T-T, R1-R1, R2-S, S-R2
Compatible models (in progress):
Model Version
:
:
:
Sony Ericsson
A8i
Aspen
Cedar
Spiro
Vivaz Pro, Vivaz U5A
W995
Xperia Arc, Xperia X1, Xperia X2, Xperia X8, Xperia X10, Xperia X10 Mini, Xperia X10 Mini Pro
Yendo
kxhawkins said:
That's because the wires for the tip and last ring of the jack are switched for iPhone. I don't know if there's an adaptor available, but you can make your own or just cut / resplice the cable.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You can find this (nokia headset adapter) at T-Mobile corp store.
Actually, nokia stereo headset works.
Hi there, i need to know if is there a way to force the audio output by the headphone jack. I'm having problems with the headphone detection and they are constantly self-switching between them and the loudspeaker. It's not a software problem, i've tested many roms and the problem is always present .
Thanks!
Then it maybe a hardware problem. did you check it with the se center?
Cleaning and checking the port might get you something.
OR wait for someone else to post their ideas
Tim
I've tried several things with the connector, clean up, re-solder... but still having the problem. I'm sure that the audio output is working, but the detection is failing, so if i could simulate or force the detection of the headphones even without the headphones plugged, making the audio output going trough the audio jack i will be able to make more tests or even solve the problem the cheaper way. I,ve bring the phone to the service center and they say that is impossible for them to repair it.
Any idea?
Thanks!
YESSSS I've solved it! after getting the electronics schematics of the phone, I recognized the plug detection part of the circuit. after that, I've tested all the components in that circuit to discard a processor failure. I've founded a resistance broken. It was under a protection of solid paste cover, so I've got to remove it forcing it mechanicaly. After that I getted a new one and invented a way to solder it by putting the resistance in a more accesible place and wiring to the PCB points.
Anyway, I think that an app to force the audio output without the real presence of the headphones could be useful...
Tomorrow I'll post a photo of the repair.
Thanks, that'd be very nice of you! I for one am very interested in how you repaired it.
OK, here are the images...
The schematics were downloaded from here:http://www.cpkb.org/wiki/Sony_Ericsson_E10i_Xperia_X10_mini_service_manual. There are many service manuals from all brands.
The first image is the schematic of the PCB. X3600 is the 7pin 3.5 Jack. It has 11 soldering points, 4 of them are between the jack and the PCB and the soldering method is by BGA station due this. But, that 4 soldering points are those extra pins for the remote control. They are not indispensable.
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
The second image is the electronics schematic. Is only the part of the jack connector. You can see a circuit starting in the pin nº4 that is named PLUG DETECT, so here is where we have to look. Its simple, it start in the 4pin, goes trough 2 resistors (R3601 33Kohms, R3600 200Kohms) and reach the N1500, wich is the qualcomm processor. Knwowing that, I've tested those resistors, and identifyed the ons failling, that is marked on the first image.
I've removed the broken resistor, and picked a new one from an old CD Reader. Here you have a page that shows how to read SMD resistors
http://www.dinastiasoft.com.ar/Tecnologia/Resistencias.htm Anyway, after founding the resistor, I've checked it with the multimeter. The value of the resistor needed was on the schematics and was 33Kohms.
The problem here was that the new resistor was bigger than the old one, so I have to make a way to solder it. I've solved it by picking a flat cable from the same CD reader and cutting it to have only 2 wires. After that, I've soldered the resistor on one end, and the wired resistor to the PCB points. Added some insulating tape, to avoid any undisired contact with other component or the test points below.
After all that, I've turned on the phone and YES! it worked perfectly!
My X10 was back!
Wow! Nice work, dude!
And very interesting website, thanks.
There is a now an app to fix it. toggleheadset2. It worked for my xperia mini pro.