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I got the Motorola Photon last week because it was only $99 dollars which is an amazing price for this amazing phone. I was going to get the LG Marquee because it was a 3G only device I believe and last time I got a droid from sprint they had the $10 dollar surcharge for premium data only for 4G capable device, regardless of the fact that there is no 4G in my area. Needless to say I read recently that Sprint is going to be shutting down or re-purposing their Wimax towers and moving to LTE, I think this is a great idea, but my question is, will my Photon be able to use LTE when it is available or will I have to get a new phone when they switch to LTE? Compared to Verizon, the data connection is a joke. Its very slow, luckily when Im at school they have wireless N wifi, and at home I have wifi. I would like to eventually not have to use wifi and be able to do stuff as simple as searching the market without having to wait 5-10 seconds for a page to come up. I used that 3G supercharger, and it is better then it was, but randomly drops the connection and goes to roaming now, that doesn't really matter though. Another comment I have on the Photon, is the phenomenal battery life. I didn't update my phone with the leaked software that was suppose to fix some battery issues, but I don't have any. I easily go 14 hours a day using it as an mp3 player, etc, and usually have around 60% battery power left then it takes like less then an hour to fully charge. Call quality and reception is about a million times better then my Samsung transform. Motorola has made me a believer in good phones. I'll never purchase another Samsung cell phone again, that's for sure. The only thing that could make this phone better would be LTE.
Welcome to the club. There's several threads on LTE, so check those out but there's no conclusive answer that I've seen. Battery life and reception are great with this phone so if you ever do have a problem, look for a rogue app.
Lol The club. I like that. Anywho I was looking around in the mophos build.prop file and it actually said some stuff about LTE, thats pretty cool. Maybe this phone is already prepared to switch to LTE in a future system update.
I think(read: I'm uncertain if)the Photon has the necessary 800mhz radio in it for sprints future rollouts(rev. a, rev. b, 1xAdvanced or whatever is gonna use it).
I'm actually trying to determine this as well, for certain, since this phone has amazing radios in it as far as the reception is concerned. I dont care too much about the LTE radio but I'd like to be able to use the revised 3G band. I've been thinking of getting the Photon and moving away from my Nexus S 4G only because of what I've heard about its ability to pull down a signal.
HSPA+ is the minimum foundation for LTE so if sprint layered their network the Photon would work fine because that is the Gsm Transceiver it has.
Thats what I was thinking! Sprint just needs to HTFU and cut out wimax and give us the better LTE network. Lol I bet all the new samsung phones will be **** out of luck though! That will be hilarious when the new GSII's are useless! Samsung blows
Anyone have any experience with these ?
Does Tmo normally make you buy them or what ?
I have an issue with signal and data only at work but, after pricing
Sprint, Verizon, and At&t, I would be paying double what I am now each month.
I called them and they said I could only get one for home use because
if a call was made to 911 from another cell phone in the signal booster
radius, 911 would not be able to tell the phones location.
Would they even be able to tell that I was using it at work instead of home ?
I just signed a new contract a week ago and bought the Amaze so I am well within the 30 days I have to reverse the contract.
I cant tether at work, I can barely make a call, and many times I cant even do that.
You could change your billing address to work and then go that route. The 911 part is likely a regulation so I don't think there's anything you can do about that.
id also like to know more about a signal booster? the woman at the store mentioned it but tech support didnt
going_home said:
Anyone have any experience with these ?
Does Tmo normally make you buy them or what ?
I have an issue with signal and data only at work but, after pricing
Sprint, Verizon, and At&t, I would be paying double what I am now each month.
I called them and they said I could only get one for home use because
if a call was made to 911 from another cell phone in the signal booster
radius, 911 would not be able to tell the phones location.
Would they even be able to tell that I was using it at work instead of home ?
I just signed a new contract a week ago and bought the Amaze so I am well within the 30 days I have to reverse the contract.
I cant tether at work, I can barely make a call, and many times I cant even do that.
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do you have wifi at work? nov 13th the wifi calling update is going to be released (hopefully)
I'm with TMO and just got their signal booster about a week ago.
The tech support person I talked to wasn't particularly helpful and seemed very concerned about following her script rather than actually helping - that said, to get the free booster, you must meet their criteria precisely, no room for judgement here.
Their requirements are you are not in an apartment complex, you have to have 2 bars of signal, and the person I talked to was extremely concerned with the physical size and floors of my house.
Installing the unit is really simple - there is a receiver and a transmitter. The receiver needs to be in the best place to get a signal in your house and the transmitter basically needs to be in the middle of your house. The two devices need to be a certain distance apart to work. Again this was a source of confusion with tech support. She was convinced the device only works on one floor and there is only one part to it. I mention this in case you have similar issues communicating with TMO.
All in all, it took about 45 minutes on the phone to get the device and once it was here, 10 minutes to get everything in place. Since then I've had a great signal here - 4 or 5 bars. Data has been around 14mbs down.
Anything else?
Thanks. I will have to stay on them about this signal booster. Can't wait to have signal ay home
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I don't have wifi at work .
I just wonder if they could tell if I used it at work .
I wouldn't leave it on all the time it even leave it there because
risk of loss.
I do only have randomly one or two bars at home though .
Guess I'll try and get one.
I can't see how they could tell where it was being used.
The issue though is capacity.
The way the device works is the receiver is put where you get the best signal. It then re transmits over a different open public frequency (like a cordless phone), to the transmitter. The transmitter then acts like a mini cell tower.
The problem is the transmission between the two units has a limited bandwidth. If more than a few cell phones are talking to the transmitter, the band width will be used up and signal will degrade.
So if you take it to work and no one else winds up connecting to it, you're fine. But if more than a couple of cell phones connect, you will all get crappy service. (this is also why they don't use it in apartment complexes)
buy/own your own signal booster. the same one you can get from T-Mobile:
http://cel-fi.com/overview#get_celfi
use this code to get $100 off:
Code:
5BARS
it's expensive... $525-$100=$425, but you don't have to jump through T-Mobile's hoops to get it and use it
338lm said:
buy/own your own signal booster. the same one you can get from T-Mobile:
http://cel-fi.com/overview#get_celfi
use this code to get $100 off:
Code:
5BARS
it's expensive... $525-$100=$425, but you don't have to jump through T-Mobile's hoops to get it and use it
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OK I will get one myself as T-Mobile required a two year contract
And I just this month entered one for this phone.
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OK I will get one myself as T-Mobile required a two year contract
And I just this month entered one for this phone.
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If you're already in a contract, its not an additional 2 years, its 2 years from the date they send the device.
I got my phone, under contract, a month before I got the cell booster, so in effect it only extends my contract one month.
If you plan on buying a unit, and you're not intimidated by a little wiring, there are better options out there for the same or less money. They just require you to run a cable from the receiver to the transmitter. (search amazon for wilson electronics)
Those options allow you to get customize your antenna to allow for a much better signal.
-Tony
Tony,
Do you have a link to the repeater that T-Mobile sent you? I have very marginal reception in my house, and want to look over what it is they send you. Any other tips (which number did you call? etc.) for getting one of these repeaters? I just got my Amaze a couple days after it was released.
Ryan
Contracts don't add up so you wouldn't have 4 years... You'd just extend 2 years starting at this point.
Cel-fi is the brand.
I just called the regular customer service number and went to technical support. I had to talk three people to get to the right person - they each knew it was possible to get a booster, but weren't empowered to make it happen - and the final person wasn't too up on things either.
Just let them know you have at least two bars in an area of your house near a window (don't know why, but the person I talked to was concerned this was the case) and the rest of your house is worse. If you live in an apartment, that will exclude you. The person I was talking to was also convinced a three story house was out of the question, but its working perfectly for me.
It may not work for you and if it doesn't they do have a 14 day or 30 day (I forget which) period that you can return the device and they roll back any commitments .
If your signal is really bad, you may have to purchase you're own unit with a directional antenna. They're not hard to set up, just way more time consuming to install and cost about $350+/-
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Tony,
Do you have a link to the repeater that T-Mobile sent you? I have very marginal reception in my house, and want to look over what it is they send you. Any other tips (which number did you call? etc.) for getting one of these repeaters? I just got my Amaze a couple days after it was released.
Ryan
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Ah, i looked up the Cel-fi, and it won't work for me
http://cel-fi.com/overview#get_celfi
I only have 2G at my house, and this requires at least 1 bar of 3G. I'll just wait for the WiFi calling on the Amaze, then I wouldn't need it anyways.
Hello!
I am coming in from years of HD2 use, running gingerbreadish as droid.
Happy with my hardware, goodness the camera is awesome!
But the software is kinda bleh.
My HD2 running droid almost seemed faster, both on 3g, and internally with switching apps or even pictures. Of course I understand the handicapping that T-Mobile curses their phones with, but is anyone else having 3.5g issues?
Do the current custom ROMS produce better radio reception?
I'm in no hurry to flash, everything else is slick, exactly what I needed in a phone...but the weak data stream (10mbps fluctuating to 0.01 mbps and back during downloads) is irritating.
WiFi is not an option, I simply want a steadier data connection.
EDIT: My entire usage footprint is bright T-Mobile pink indicating awesome "4g" (yeah yeah I know, there's no such thing?)
kidrythm said:
Hello!
I am coming in from years of HD2 use, running gingerbreadish as droid.
Happy with my hardware, goodness the camera is awesome!
But the software is kinda bleh.
My HD2 running droid almost seemed faster, both on 3g, and internally with switching apps or even pictures. Of course I understand the handicapping that T-Mobile curses their phones with, but is anyone else having 3.5g issues?
Do the current custom ROMS produce better radio reception?
I'm in no hurry to flash, everything else is slick, exactly what I needed in a phone...but the weak data stream (10mbps fluctuating to 0.01 mbps and back during downloads) is irritating.
WiFi is not an option, I simply want a steadier data connection.
EDIT: My entire usage footprint is bright T-Mobile pink indicating awesome "4g" (yeah yeah I know, there's no such thing?)
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Just got my Amaze a few weeks ago... and I do believe this phone was promised to have a great connection... "HSPA+ 42" .... Mine works OK... but I live in Chicago. Sometimes it all depends on where you live..... if you live in a major city then you shouldn't have too many signal problems.
I found a T-Mobile customer support link you might wanna check out....
Tell me if this works for you...
http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-3294
Not sure I understand what your issue is, but if you're less than chuffed with the software, stay tuned.... Amaze is one of the models that HTC has confirmed as getting ICS in "early 2012" (probably more like Q2, perhaps Q3). Whether it will get Sense 4.0 hasn't been documented, but I presume it will. I don't believe Gingerbread (2.3.4) or Sense 3.0 were optimized for the dual-core S3, so ... perhaps the update will bring snappier performance. (Hands-on reports of Sense 4 indicate it's pretty slick, a major improvement.)
From what I've been told, T-Mo's HSPA+ network is spotty ... great in some spots, so-so in others. I'm supposed to be in a prime spot, and I think I'm in line-of-sight of my local tower ... but in my second story bedroom, I can only get 17MBPS down (with Ookla Speedtest.net). (shrug)
And a week ago, AT&T (I canceled with them in December) turned on LTE in my section of town. Oops.[1]
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[1] Update: ... And this week AT&T announced the end to even the grandfathered unlimited data plans (like I had from 2006).
honestly can you even tell? to browse on your phone i dont think you need a better connection than 10mb/s i get 2 because of the area im in (WIND is the Equivalent of T-Mobile USA) and im happy with it lol ( speeds are supposed to be 5-12 mb/s
ChromeJob said:
Not sure I understand what your issue is, but if you're less than chuffed with the software, stay tuned.... Amaze is one of the models that HTC has confirmed as getting ICS in "early 2012" (probably more like Q2, perhaps Q3). Whether it will get Sense 4.0 hasn't been documented, but I presume it will. I don't believe Gingerbread (2.3.4) or Sense 3.0 were optimized for the dual-core S3, so ... perhaps the update will bring snappier performance. (Hands-on reports of Sense 4 indicate it's pretty slick, a major improvement.)
From what I've been told, T-Mo's HSPA+ network is spotty ... great in some spots, so-so in others. I'm supposed to be in a prime spot, and I think I'm in line-of-sight of my local tower ... but in my second story bedroom, I can only get 17MBPS down (with Ookla Speedtest.net). (shrug)
And a week ago, AT&T (I canceled with them in December) turned on LTE in my section of town. Oops.
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AT&T doesn't have good plans... My boyfriend has LTE ... he has the SGSII SKYROCKET.... he only gets 2GB of data... then after he exceeds... they give him AOL DIAL UP SPEEDS... and he has the UNLIMITED PLAN.... and he pays $115 / mon.
I pay $85 / mon and get 5GB of data on the HSPA+ 42 network.... hmmmmm
I WIN. (and so do you.... )
I get 10-12mbit connections, compared to my hd2 which got me 1-2mbit. there is a difference. Also, I feel like the amaze is slightly better, since the hd2's network capability is horrible, after 1 hour of being in a dead spot, it won't try to re-establish a network when I'm back in a signal zone. The only way to get it again is to restart. Tried it with multiple radios/roms.
ChromeJob said:
Not sure I understand what your issue is, but if you're less than chuffed with the software, stay tuned.... Amaze is one of the models that HTC has confirmed as getting ICS in "early 2012" (probably more like Q2, perhaps Q3). Whether it will get Sense 4.0 hasn't been documented, but I presume it will. I don't believe Gingerbread (2.3.4) or Sense 3.0 were optimized for the dual-core S3, so ... perhaps the update will bring snappier performance. (Hands-on reports of Sense 4 indicate it's pretty slick, a major improvement.)
From what I've been told, T-Mo's HSPA+ network is spotty ... great in some spots, so-so in others. I'm supposed to be in a prime spot, and I think I'm in line-of-sight of my local tower ... but in my second story bedroom, I can only get 17MBPS down (with Ookla Speedtest.net). (shrug)
And a week ago, AT&T (I canceled with them in December) turned on LTE in my section of town. Oops.
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Tmo towers are getting updated this year. In some spots I already get 20-27 mb/s in the Twin Cities MN
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My hd2 gave me about 2-3mbs, my amaze gives me 12-15mbs and peaks of 18-22
Glorious!!!!
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Yeah, when I am in good 4G coverage I can hit 20 download and 5 upload. It is actually faster on 4 G than on my WiFi, lol!
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Make sure you update the SIM card to the new "4G" SIM cards. I used to work at T-Mo and you need the new SIM card to have better connection.
JesseMT4G said:
Yeah, when I am in good 4G coverage I can hit 20 download and 5 upload. It is actually faster on 4 G than on my WiFi, lol!
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I actually prefer 4G over my WiFi. But I don't wanna get throttled -__-
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I did the sim switch, which seemed odd because I used the sim in the box.
I was throttled down to 0.06 mbps, consistent until about an hour ago since 3/1...voice cleared at exactly 12 am...data throttle cleared later (imho, this is wrong and should be illegal under an unli mited contract).
FYI: I maxed out at 14g during one billing cycle before the caps...I am not the enemy...I blew up my data just to see what it could do, all on the hd2, no tether/hot spot.
My head hurt for a week.
So, fixed the light bleed, got the sim, found light slivers creeping from both lower sides of the screen...but only when the capacitives are on, and soon to be rooted etc.
But seriously, your speeds are depressing me...I average 4 down, .23 up in Kansas City...home of Sprint.
Shouldn't be too long, I'll have it purrrrring.
kidrythm said:
I did the sim switch, which seemed odd because I used the sim in the box.
I was throttled down to 0.06 mbps, consistent until about an hour ago since 3/1...voice cleared at exactly 12 am...data throttle cleared later (imho, this is wrong and should be illegal under an unli mited contract).
FYI: I maxed out at 14g during one billing cycle before the caps...I am not the enemy...I blew up my data just to see what it could do, all on the hd2, no tether/hot spot.
My head hurt for a week.
So, fixed the light bleed, got the sim, found light slivers creeping from both lower sides of the screen...but only when the capacitives are on, and soon to be rooted etc.
But seriously, your speeds are depressing me...I average 4 down, .23 up in Kansas City...home of Sprint.
Shouldn't be too long, I'll have it purrrrring.
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I'm not sure you'll get better download speeds then if you already have the latest sim card. The amaze has yet to get a way to flash different radios...
Coming from the Hd2 your going to be rather disappointed with the development here. If only we could pull Tytung over here.
kidrythm said:
Hello!
I am coming in from years of HD2 use, running gingerbreadish as droid.
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Were twins. I had the hd2 before the amaze too! :3
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craigtut said:
I'm not sure you'll get better download speeds then if you already have the latest sim card. The amaze has yet to get a way to flash different radios...
Coming from the Hd2 your going to be rather disappointed with the development here. If only we could pull Tytung over here.
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Agreed!
At least the development here isn't born of pure frustration like it was for the HD2.
The countless denials and misdirection from T-Mobile, my 6 years of problem free history ended when I activated the powerful nightmare (all cell giants have accepted the dark side by now).
It was a year and a half before I felt comfortable using an sd Rom.
I still don't trust the hardware for a full wipe...
knifeproz said:
Were twins. I had the hd2 before the amaze too! :3
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What are your initial thoughts?
Imho, this is the HD3...
My thoughts? Hmm....I love this device far more than than the hd2 for the sole purpose that things work. As in its android from the box and I don't need to take wp6.5 off resulting in bad battery. The hd2 is a great device and I love it and this is kind of like it except no hardware buttons and less devs. But so far with what I've seen with the 5 days I've had this phone its amazing, and it was a great move to switch from the hd2.
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knifeproz said:
My thoughts? Hmm....I love this device far more than than the hd2 for the sole purpose that things work. As in its android from the box and I don't need to take wp6.5 off resulting in bad battery. The hd2 is a great device and I love it and this is kind of like it except no hardware buttons and less devs. But so far with what I've seen with the 5 days I've had this phone its amazing, and it was a great move to switch from the hd2.
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The addition of the forward facing camera, dedicated camera/vid button, and a larger market (pathetic, anemic, sorry assed Windows marketplace, and the millions of harsh unknown sources offering buggy ugly 'apps' for 6.5) is really all I needed in the Leo to make it 100%...
I'm not in any hurry to tweak this phone, it's pretty much where my Leo was, save for the obvious refinements.
The process is a bit more involved on this unit, so we'll see.
ICS looks pretty good too.
But for now, yeah, I made the right choice over the Samsung GSII and I am happy overall.
No restarts, dead pixels, overheating issues on either unit.
Couldnt have said it better. Although I do recommend to root your phone and flash a diff rom + kernel - its a battery saver
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Okay, when people have sigline images that are 4 times the height of the post, it's time to turn off signatures. C'mon people, be respectful of those with limited bandwidth, or ... who want to read your words, not ogle your MSPAINT skills.
My "4G" speeds are erratic as heck. One minute I get 2.7mbps, the next I get 188kbps. Welcome to the ISDN era...
Could this be because I dropped in the SIM card from my old HD2? What voodoo is in the SIM card makes that much difference? I thought the new SIM card was just for WiFi calling...
Hi folks,
sorry to ask a rather silly question, but I am considering getting the htc incredible 4g lte (Verizon)
Pretty much everything looks bad ass, but I am curious as to if it uses a real GPS signal, or a simulated gps like an iphone (i had a iphone 3g lol and gps sucked)
Anyway, I am moving from an LG Mytouch 4g (tmobile)
I want real GPS for both driving, hiking and such and don't want a gps dependent on the cell signal like the iphone seemed to be.
And I also want a phone with much development support for rooting and etc.
I've been having trouble determining if this phone has true GPS or similated, much help would be appreciated.
mcnaryp said:
Hi folks,
sorry to ask a rather silly question, but I am considering getting the htc incredible 4g lte (Verizon)
Pretty much everything looks bad ass, but I am curious as to if it uses a real GPS signal, or a simulated gps like an iphone (i had a iphone 3g lol and gps sucked)
Anyway, I am moving from an LG Mytouch 4g (tmobile)
I want real GPS for both driving, hiking and such and don't want a gps dependent on the cell signal like the iphone seemed to be.
And I also want a phone with much development support for rooting and etc.
I've been having trouble determining if this phone has true GPS or similated, much help would be appreciated.
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Yup, and its damn accurate. Deep in the local mountain ranges at over 8000 feet I can get a signal as long as I'm not standing still. I downloaded the local Google Maps to be available offline, then when you look at the downloaded map it shows the little carrot going along the trail I'm on perfectly ;D
jtdogblue said:
Yup, and its damn accurate. Deep in the local mountain ranges at over 8000 feet I can get a signal as long as I'm not standing still. I downloaded the local Google Maps to be available offline, then when you look at the downloaded map it shows the little carrot going along the trail I'm on perfectly ;D
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ty,
lol, gonna try and get it with the blackfriday sale at best buy.
lol free with 2 year verizon agreement through best buy ( VS ) the $99. with 2 yr through verizon.
yes its real, and it works very well
Yep, my GPS works great here where I live in the mountains too, but I thought I might mention that my compass doesn't work well at all! It may be that I am in a weak magnetism area or maybe its just my phone. But that doesn't really matter to me right now.
I like Verizon, the coverage is great but sometimes I wonder if the grass is greener. I like to try all the different phones out there and T-Mobile and AT&T have the most open networks for switching out phones. I think T-Mobile is not going to work because the coverage is just not there. I used to be an At&T customer and only left really for Android (Original Droid). Now that Android is spread to al the carriers I wonder if I might like AT&T better just because I can switch out phones so much easier. Anyone have any input, maybe someone that has switched from Verizon to AT&T?
Character Zero said:
I like Verizon, the coverage is great but sometimes I wonder if the grass is greener. I like to try all the different phones out there and T-Mobile and AT&T have the most open networks for switching out phones. I think T-Mobile is not going to work because the coverage is just not there. I used to be an At&T customer and only left really for Android (Original Droid). Now that Android is spread to al the carriers I wonder if I might like AT&T better just because I can switch out phones so much easier. Anyone have any input, maybe someone that has switched from Verizon to AT&T?
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I'd love to provide some input as a user who has been a Verizon customer for a few years and is switching to AT&T. I previously used the Galaxy Nexus on Verizon and then switched to the iPhone 5 last year. I am still on an unlimited data plan. However, I have grown increasingly frustrated at Verizon because of their lack of phone variety, slow updates, locked bootloaders, Verizon customizations (persistent WIFI notifications, for example), etc.
So I bought an HTC One on AT&T the other day and am currently evaluating it. Right now I still have my Verizon iPhone 5 with unlimited data. But I also have the HTC One with the 5GB data plan (I have a 25% business discount).
SO is the grass greener? Yes and No. Here are some of my thoughts:
- Verizon has better overall coverage, but AT&T is faster. In my area, LTE on AT&T just went live, and while speeds are comparable, AT&T has better penetration already into the buildings I've been in. In my workplace, for example, I can get 4G LTE on AT&T but only 3G on Verizon unless I am close to the windows. It's nice having HSPA+ as a drop down from LTE as opposed to Verizon's very slow 3G network IMO. Can't deny Verizon's coverage is second to none, but AT&T is good in my area so this is probably the primary consideration (how is AT&T in your main area you'll be in???)
- It would be very hard to give up my Unlimited Data plan on Verizon. It's nice not having to worry about data caps. However, in actual use, I rarely go over 3-4GB per month and only occasionally reach 5GB. I don't think 3GB would be enough as I'd be constantly worrying about going over, plus I'd have to workaround tethering. For now, I'm keeping my Verizon line until I am absolutely sure.
- Phones! GMS > CDMA if only for the flexibility the former has for phones. The floodgates are open on AT&T and T-Mobile, but Verizon takes longer to get phones, has less variety, and has complete control over them. I hate everything about what Verizon is doing, and it's clear they don't have geeks in mind that like to tinker and switch phones often. I change phones every 9-12 months usually, and AT&T is going to provide a better environment than Verizon for that. Not perfect, mind you. They still lock bootloaders, and have some draconian policies and practices, but by the nature of their GMS network, there is more flexibility.
- HTC One. I bought the One on AT&T before it was officially confirmed that Verizon would be getting it. So there is a part of me that thinks I should just return the AT&T version and wait for the Verizon version. However, I am not at all confident that Verizon won't screw it up or prevent HTC from allowing us to unlock the bootloader. And like I said, I'm just really tired of Verizon and their meddling. I may just end up keep both plans for a while, but right now I'm leaning towards keeping the AT&T version despite my unlimited data plan on Verizon.
Hope that helps.
Yes that was a great help. I am really torn because Verizon's coverage is so great. I know that ATT LTE went live here a little bit ago and I think the coverage is pretty good. Ironically I left ATT for the Droid on Verizon because of the lack of variety on ATT at the time. Thanks for your input.
honestly i would move to verizon right now if i could, in my area better coverage + better speeds
Character Zero said:
Yes that was a great help. I am really torn because Verizon's coverage is so great. I know that ATT LTE went live here a little bit ago and I think the coverage is pretty good. Ironically I left ATT for the Droid on Verizon because of the lack of variety on ATT at the time. Thanks for your input.
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No problem. I know what you mean, I had AT&T a long time ago too and moved to Verizon when they changed their unlimited data policy. So it's ironic that I am now switching back. AT&T has done a good job of courting Android phone makers, and Verizon seems to be in the honeymoon phase of having the iPhone now. It's weird how things have flip-flopped! AT&T also has a few more consumer-friendly policies such as not forcing customers into a Share Everything data plan if you aren't already grandfathered in. They have rollover minutes (which I know isn't a big deal these day with people using voice less). And they have Mobile to ANY Mobile rather than just Mobile to Mobile, which is a small advantage I know.
But yeah, the primary consideration is how each carrier performs in your area. If both are good (like in my area), you have more options.
xnknown said:
honestly i would move to verizon right now if i could, in my area better coverage + better speeds
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Yes, if one carrier has better coverage and speeds in your area, then it makes sense to use that carrier. In my area, Verizon's LTE has been around for almost two years now and I rarely get more than 10 Mbps downloads. Usually it hovers around 5-9 Mbps, which is not even much better than AT&T's HSPA+, let alone LTE. And when my phones on Verizon drop down to 3G, it feels like dialup speeds. So far, AT&T is noticeable better for speeds between my HTC One and iPhone 5.
But again, YMMV and this is just a subjective observation on my part. To the OP, you could always give AT&T a shot for 14 days and compare the networks. If it doesn't work out, you can cancel and just pay the restocking fee. Just use the new phone with a new number, so you don't have to port and cancel your old line yet.
It all depends on your location really. I live near philly and the service has actually been a bit better on att then verizon from when i had them a few years ago. The speeds are also better on att thanks to it not being cdma but rather hspa. Overall I would never go back to verizon due to their prices and slower speeds unless I moved somewhere where they had clearly better service than all other companies.
So what about dropped calls. I barely have any on Verizon, but I remember having them on AT&T. Does being on LTE fix that or is it still a problem?
I went from Verizon (been a customer for 10 years) to At&t recently because my wife's office only gets At&t reception and we wanted to be on a Mobile Share plan instead of having two separate accounts (saves us around 40 a month). I've had an At&t line over the years for work, so I know the coverage isn't NEARLY as good as Verizon, especially LTE coverage in my area (At&t just went live on a few towers in my neck of the woods), but the savings is worth the sacrifice at this time.
Plus, as you said, being able to use most GSM phones on the network is a HUGE plus. Being able to run the Google Edition on my HTC One will be fantastic and I don't think Verizon is going to make it easy to run that software. Plus, as another guy mentioned above, that persistent Wifi thing Verizon does is sooooooo annoying. Almost as bad as At&t putting their name in the notification bar of the GS3/GS4. At least it goes away after a few seconds on the HTC One.
I haven't had many dropped calls on At&t, but calls are not what I do the most of, so I'm a bad barometer for that. I know the wife drops a bunch but I just attributed it to being the Nexus 4 and not a tried and true, tested, At&t phone. She has a GS4 now, so we'll see if that improves.
Anyway, in short, I did it for strictly monetary reasons, but the plus sides of At&t are numerous so it's not as bad as thought it would be.
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I went from Verizon (been a customer for 10 years) to At&t recently because my wife's office only gets At&t reception and we wanted to be on a Mobile Share plan instead of having two separate accounts (saves us around 40 a month). I've had an At&t line over the years for work, so I know the coverage isn't NEARLY as good as Verizon, especially LTE coverage in my area (At&t just went live on a few towers in my neck of the woods), but the savings is worth the sacrifice at this time.
Plus, as you said, being able to use most GSM phones on the network is a HUGE plus. Being able to run the Google Edition on my HTC One will be fantastic and I don't think Verizon is going to make it easy to run that software. Plus, as another guy mentioned above, that persistent Wifi thing Verizon does is sooooooo annoying. Almost as bad as At&t putting their name in the notification bar of the GS3/GS4. At least it goes away after a few seconds on the HTC One.
I haven't had many dropped calls on At&t, but calls are not what I do the most of, so I'm a bad barometer for that. I know the wife drops a bunch but I just attributed it to being the Nexus 4 and not a tried and true, tested, At&t phone. She has a GS4 now, so we'll see if that improves.
Anyway, in short, I did it for strictly monetary reasons, but the plus sides of At&t are numerous so it's not as bad as thought it would be.
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Thats what I am afraid of. My wife values the voice and I value the data. So dropped calls don't bother me as much, but it would really bother my wife. Especially coming from Verizon with very few dropped calls.
I dropped Verizon last year for AT&T and, despite the few rough patches everyone else has mentioned, it was worth it. No one can beat Verizon's LTE network coverage at this point, but I was so fed up with their other BS on updates and pretty scanty selection of phones that I did what you did and suspended my service for a month to see what happened. At first they weren't perfect, but I was fine with them and loved that I could go from a US SGS3 to an international One X without a hitch. Also, AT&T's coverage (both 3G and LTE) has expanded greatly in quality and quantity over the last 6 months where I'm at for work and everyday life. So now I've finally convinced my wife to drop them also and thus ending our 12 year run with Verizon and their devolution into Apple-like "It's our way or you don't need it" business model.
Will I ever go back? Not until I can buy a new phone from anywhere I want and activate it on their network. And I believe it'll be a cold day in heck before that is ever allowed to happen!