Disappearing Titan/Mogul Bluetooth Serial Profile - Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development

Greetings.
I work for an industrial device company and we use the PPC's as a gateway device to connect our devices to the internet for data transmissions. Our devices require the Bluetooth Serial Port profile in order to function correctly. Most of the WM5 devices included this feature, including the PPC6700 which was our most reliable solution.
However, with the introduction of WM6 and the migration to the 6800 platform, we are seeing the wholesale disappearance of the BT Serial Profile from PPC devices. The default Sprint 6800 image does not have BT serial, which is indicative of every HTC WM6 device we have tested (including the Kaiser). When we have asked the carriers about this problem, we get dumb looks and fingers pointed at HTC and Microsoft for excluding this feature.
In today's sandbox testing, I unlocked a Sprint 6800 and loaded the Telus WM5 image found on the FTP server, and it includes the BT Serial Profile. A workaround was born. (Many thanks to the posters on this forum).
Questions for the experts:
-Offhand, does anyone know of any WM6 devices that have the BT Serial Profile enabled?
-How easy or difficult is this to cook into a WM6 ROM? Has anyone ever to add the BT serial profile back in like this?
-Does anyone have the official Sprint WM5 ROM for the 6800 that was (allegedly) never released?
Thanks, in advance, for any guidance anyone can shed on this subject.

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Help - Calling anyone who uses a TomTom Go 910/710/510 with their Hermes

I have a TomTom Go 910 and an M3100 running WM6.
I have been using the hands-free BT connection with no problem.
However, I recently tried to set up a data connection to access TomTom Plus services through the phone over BT, and the setup routine fails every time. (I have no problem connecting to the internet over WAP from the phone in general).
Of course, TomTom support refuse to help, telling me that the phone is not supported for the 910. According to them I should not even be able to use the hands-free feature...
Before I go spending hours trying different ROMs and BT stacks etc., does anyone out there have the same setup (even with a 710 or 510) and got it to work? (No point wasting time if they are simply not compatible and no one has actually got it to work).
Thanks for your help
My very basic guess is that you need to use the Internet Connection Sharing program on windows mobile, as just paring the devices won't do anything.
So I guess I fire ICS up and and choose Bluetooth PAN and then try to see if TomTom sees it.?
I'll try tonight and report back.
Thanks for the suggestion.
Let us know how it goes. But isn't WM6 lacking either PAN or DUN that's required to establish the connection?
No luck using ICS
Percz said:
My very basic guess is that you need to use the Internet Connection Sharing program on windows mobile, as just paring the devices won't do anything.
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Well, I tried it... no luck. TomTom still insists on going through a DUN setup routine (entering access point, GPRS dial-up number, etc.) and promptly fails both with automatic and manual setup. It does not detect the PAN already running with ICS connected.
I wonder if DUN can be ported back to WM6 with CABs from WM5?
Any other ideas?

DUN and BT DUN profile for Athena?

Is a well known problem since WM5 AKU 3.0, DUN disappeared (Dial Up Network, using WM as remote modem, via Activesync or BT)
Any TOM TOM Go and TOM TOM One, (not used by ATHENA users, we have our GPS) need IT to be connected with the PDA. In some cases DUN could be usefull also for Athena users, but it was removed from latest WM5 and WM6 Rom (the majority of Nokia and Sony smartphones have it)
Now someone here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1351044&postcount=21 posted the .cab to restore it on a TyTN.
Sleuth put it on his new rom, I've tested on my X7500 (HTC WM6 rom) and I am having some config problem on the USB side...
My be it could be interesting also for some ATHENA user
tried on my touch and tried to dial from my athena with *99# and didnt work..
Maybe I'm missing something, but why don't you set up a modem in Settings > Connections > Connections > Tasks > Add a new modem connection? Just need an APN, user name and password, which vary depending on your ISP (I have AT&T). Modem string and *99# no longer necessary.
If you want to use your Athena as a modem for your laptop, either through a USB or Bluetooth connection, just use Internet Sharing under Programs.
im trying to share between ppc to ppc ...
hy,
I cannot connect athena100 to tomtom go910.
I upgrades WM5 to WM6, I installes BT_DUN, tries several ways, but it doesn't work, I always got a message of DUN-connection problem;
I managed perfectly well on touch, but I have no succes with atnena100;
could you help me?
I'd say use wmwifirouter for this. It will work perfectly for internet sharing with about anything around you over usb BT or wifi
Thank you Astain, but I need a DUN-connection because TomTom does not use ICS.
Do you have a solution for that?

Bluetooth Pan on Verizon XV6800 & Leopard Mac

Hey all,
So I've got a small issue. I've got a Verizon XV6800 with the MR1 Rom WM6.1, Valhalla GPS server, 3.42.50 Radio.
Internet connection sharing is not working at this point. I've gone through the winmodem and internet connection sharing cab installs, registry edits, etc. None seem to help.
I previously had a ATT tilt 8925 and had no issues whatsoever tethering it to my mac by just pairing the phone, selecting to "Using a direct Higher speed connection to reach your ISP". Starting Internet Sharing on the phone, selecting Bluetooth PAN & the default data connection, then selecting connect. Then selecting "Connect to network" On the mac through the my phone listed in the bluetooth connections. That simple.
Having installed the "Internet Sharing" cab onto the phone. Internet sharing appears to work, but the phone does not advertise this service, like the ATT tilt did on ATT's network.
I've also tried a few registry edits, and used all variations of modem scripts, and got all the dialup info from verizon directly (so I know it was right ) but could not get dialup to work either. Usually not detecting a carrier, other times lockups.
I truely want to get the bluetooth-PAN working again as it did on my tilt. Anyone have this working on the MAc with a XV6800 on verizon?
i did have it working before. I'm wondering if you might be more successful with a custom rom. Verizon installs software (at least previous roms, I haven't tested the MR1 rom) that reverts reg edits and keeps it working like VzW wants it to. This could be causing problems. First check after a soft-reset to make sure your reg edits still exist.
Also I'm sure you've tried this be in Leopard's bluetooth setup delete the phone and try again. You need to select the type of device as any device in order for leopard to see it. Can you connect the device to your mac? Try that first. If you get a BT connection non-internet connection and you change your settings delete the phone and try again. I forget some of the setting I used. Also Engadget had a how to article for BT pan using the xv6700 and Tiger most of the information is still useful. It's a couple years old so you might have a hard time finding it.
Hope some of that helps.
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i did have it working before. I'm wondering if you might be more successful with a custom rom. Verizon installs software (at least previous roms, I haven't tested the MR1 rom) that reverts reg edits and keeps it working like VzW wants it to. This could be causing problems. First check after a soft-reset to make sure your reg edits still exist.
Also I'm sure you've tried this be in Leopard's bluetooth setup delete the phone and try again. You need to select the type of device as any device in order for leopard to see it. Can you connect the device to your mac? Try that first. If you get a BT connection non-internet connection and you change your settings delete the phone and try again. I forget some of the setting I used. Also Engadget had a how to article for BT pan using the xv6700 and Tiger most of the information is still useful. It's a couple years old so you might have a hard time finding it.
Hope some of that helps.
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As mentioned, I have tried a ton of different methods to try and use the data connection, from using dialup settings, to trying to get the Bluetooth Pan working. I've removed and re-paired the device from my mac, flashed roms, hacked away at the registry a ton of times. Nothing seems to give so far.
I've got one more suggestion, found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1794133&postcount=29
I'm going to give this a shot tomorrow and will let you know how it goes.
Eponymous069 said:
Hey all,
So I've got a small issue. I've got a Verizon XV6800 with the MR1 Rom WM6.1, Valhalla GPS server, 3.42.50 Radio.
Internet connection sharing is not working at this point. I've gone through the winmodem and internet connection sharing cab installs, registry edits, etc. None seem to help.
I previously had a ATT tilt 8925 and had no issues whatsoever tethering it to my mac by just pairing the phone, selecting to "Using a direct Higher speed connection to reach your ISP". Starting Internet Sharing on the phone, selecting Bluetooth PAN & the default data connection, then selecting connect. Then selecting "Connect to network" On the mac through the my phone listed in the bluetooth connections. That simple.
Having installed the "Internet Sharing" cab onto the phone. Internet sharing appears to work, but the phone does not advertise this service, like the ATT tilt did on ATT's network.
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I was wondering if you be gracious enough to share the Internet sharing CAB i only need to get it to work thought the USB cable and on a windows box, and from what im getting you got that far... JUST not working on a mac...
if thats the case, i would be ever so greatful..
Thanks
thetaz01 said:
I was wondering if you be gracious enough to share the Internet sharing CAB i only need to get it to work thought the USB cable and on a windows box, and from what im getting you got that far... JUST not working on a mac...
if thats the case, i would be ever so greatful..
Thanks
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You can use the link from the previous post here, and just copy the dll's and exe to the Windows directory, and place teh shortcut into the Device\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\ directory.
Eponymous069 said:
You can use the link from the previous post here, and just copy the dll's and exe to the Windows directory, and place teh shortcut into the Device\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\ directory.
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hey, ok great, i just downloaded the file, Just one question..
The file i downloaded has about a page of Reg Key changes, you didnt mention that in your "thngs to do"
Just want to see if i am to make all those changes or not.
thanks
So, your problem is in getting the internet connection to work and not connecting it to the mac, right? Does your mac recognize the phone as a modem?
If you're using MR1 I think you might need to hard reset and the soft reset right before the Verizon customizations run. You won't be able to run their apps but there won't be software to cripple the phone.
i have the same exact issue i have a new macbook pro and the bluetooth connects however the speed is slower then dial up it works perfectly however on bootcamp apple has to change the drivers
So more results.
I tried all the registry edits, (much easier with CD-Regedit so you can make the changes on your desktop) and now internet sharing does not even allow me to select a connection type, it had worked previously.
The only thing that was missing before I made the registry changes was that when I pair the phone, in the services listed, "Network Access Point" is not one of the listed services. My old phone has this service listed, and this is how I used it, where I started internet sharing on the phone, then selected the bluetooth device (phone) on the mac and selected: "Connect to Network) and it worked flawless.
Back to the drawing board. I'm going to try next to re-flash the MR1 rom and do as Cycomachead suggested and stop verizons customizations from happening.
bryanw17, what were the exact settings you used for dialup on the mac. The modem script used is probably the most important piece.
Number: #777
Username: Phonenumber (or [email protected]????)
Password: (We know this one, not sure if it's legal to post though)
Darn, I wish I could provide more help. It is indeed possible in Leopard, I had it going before I began flashing my phone - and I no longer have a data plan to test, otherwise I'd be using it a lot more!
aparently no one with a new macbook pro can get bluetooth pan to work. I have it connected however the drivers for the new macbook pro do not provide a good connection if you search the mac forums theyve been talking about it on there. I dont use a username n password however because i use the internet sharing app for the moment i am using wmwifirouter to connect online however my xv6800 doesnt charge at the same time for some reason so u can only use it till the battery dies
So some more results.
I installed ICS and all the registry edits. Then the internet Connection Sharing did not function at all. I verified the registry settings, all were fine. So no dice with me.
So back to the drawing board.
I installed a previous rom. DCD 3.2.6, and guess what? From initial flash of the phone and initial setup, no apps installed, no hacking, ICS runs and provides a network connection to my mac perfect. I also instantly notice when I pair it through bluetooth, it allows the option of "Access this device as a network port". And "Network Access point" is listed as an offered service.
I installed newer rom DCD 3.3.4, and the MR1 Rom. Neither have ICS installed initially. I can install the two files: intshare.dll and IntShrUI.exe into the windows directory without any reg edits, and then ICS works on the phone, but then pairing the phone to the Mac, and attempting to discover teh PAN service is unsuccessful. It only is discovered as a Dialup Access device, and not a "Network Access Point".
So, It appears I can get internet Sharing via Bluetooth PAN to function on the phone no matter which rom, but have not figure out how to tell the mac, or trick the mac, into thinking the "Network Access Point" service is available.
I have pulled completed registry dumps with CE-Regedit and compared the differences between the two, which there are quite a few, but not sure how to export these differences with the program so I can apply them to the other roms registry. I guess I might try a fukll backup and then restore to the new(er) rom and cross my fingers.
I'd stay with the 3.2.6 rom. and 3.42.50 Radio, with PRI 2.03, but I can only seem to make the GPS function successfully with the MR1 stock verizon rom.
Anybody want to take the two regs files compare, and see if they can find out where we can make the change to have the phone advertise the service "Network Access Point" when being paired to the mac or PC?
On one last note. I also tried the method of restoring the MR1 official rom, and then not allowing the customizations. ICS will function, but again, not advertising the service: "Network Access Point" when pairing, so it's not recognized as a valid networking method.
Where did you get those files (intshare.dll and IntShrUI.exe) to allow ICS via bluetooth?
Nevermind, I found it on PPCGeeks.
Don't know why DCD disabled the BT DUN on ICS.
I use Missing sync, and I turned on PAN then added my phone and it shoed it as a modem when I added it, but my BT connection is fairly Unrealible compared to the USB teather on Bootcamp
i was under the impression that bt pan has been whacked on macbook pro models starting from early 2008 on. anything earlier than that and it seems to work great. does anyone know why bt pan doesnt work on the newer machines and how to get it to work?

Getting the DUN profile back into Athena WM6 ROMs

Hello,
I am currently trying both http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1351044&postcount=21 oand the description on http://thinkabdul.com/2007/09/22/ha...ng-dun-profile-on-windows-mobile-6-pocket-pc/ to get the DUN profile to work on my official HTC WM6 ROM (German) on the X7500, however, the DUN profile does not show up whatever I tried.
From what I researched, the bthatci.dll has a hardcoded reference to COMx: (where x comes from HKLM/Software/Microsoft/BTHATCI), but HKLM/ExtModems/bluetooth_dun points to BSP3: (BSP=board support package? function not implemented?). However, I cannot patch bthatci.dll because it is digitally signed by MS and I cannot get it to install via a self-made cab.
The BT DUN profile is important to me because the TomTom Rider motorcycle satnav system cannot use the PAN profile (network sharing).
Anyone able to help?
Greetings,
Andreas
did you find the solution, i'm also trying to find a solution for this
Hi!
The latest version of WMWiFiRouter (1.51) has this functionality (as well as many other futures). Not only it can share 3G\HSDPA connection over Bluetooth, it can even share USB connection over WiFi
WBR, Draco.
Thank you Drakosha, but this uses ICS I think, and the problem is that TomTom Go uses only DUN !!
I tried this WMWIFI, but it didn't work.
Or do I have to uninstall the BT_DUN?
I'm confused ...

S740 and Bluetooth Data

Hey all
Used to have an s730 and used it with a Tom Tom 720 with data over the bluetooth connection. I did this by installing the BTDUN.cab that is floating around on these forums. It worked fine for this and never had a problem
My s730 broke and was replaced with a s740. I've installed the same CAB and although TomTom can see it has a data connection it just does not always work. Some days I can't get data at all and other times data only works for 5 mins for dying.
Anyone got any ideas. HTC said the device only support PAN connections vs TomTom's using DUN connections and I said use a different device.
Anyone know if a s730 firmware can be used?
Thanks
AFAIK you cannot (easily and without any trouble) ass DUN bluetooth profile in Windows Mobile 6. There was the cab, but it causes a lot of trouble and is not compatible with all ROMs/devices. Internet access in WM6 is no longer DUN, not it uses Internet Sharing app and PAN profile.
And no, you cannot exchange firmwares between devices. So far you cannot even install any alternative firmware on Rose, because we still do not have HardSPL (but there is one person that is working on this now). But still you should not expect DUN working in WM6.
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