HELP!! titan constantly soft resets on its own - Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development

i was originally in a 3.16 gps rom, but decided to use dcd 2.3.1 instead.
So after flashing the rom and getting stuck at tri-color screens and such. I used cokeman's tool to get out of the bootloader screen.
the weird thing is that whiel trying to flash the rom, the instructions said make sure i have an activesync connection, i couldn't get a connection even after unplugging and plugging it in. i just went ahead and clicked next.
everything seemed fine but when i unplugged the usb from my phone to my laptop, and when i was about to leave. the titan started resetting itself on its own after about 5 seconds from restarting.
help!!!!
i managed to flash the rom to a dcd 2.3.1, but the problem continues. it'll restart everytime and will only stop when its plugged into the computer. has anyone ever experienced this?! i really need help

Hmm, this seems nothing like the 30 or so other threads about phones resetting.

ive tried a search, but did not find any threads on this matter. any help?

zerogravity said:
ive tried a search, but did not find any threads on this matter. any help?
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Lol somehow I doubt that, but I might be wrong. What version unlocker do you have?

limezednem said:
Lol somehow I doubt that, but I might be wrong. What version unlocker do you have?
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http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=9093
from there

And just to make sure, when you press Power + Camera + Reset, it says Olipro 2.40
Also you are completely sure you have Radio 3.27 and a current DCD's rom.
Radio can be verified by soft reset and bottom left should say
R 3.27.00
D 3.16

reflash dcd rom

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Stuck on bootloader, even after reset. Titan_exitbl.exe sends, but doesn't work

My phone was working fine for sometime with DCD 3.1.2, SPL 2.40 and radio 3.39.10. Last week it starting randomly resetting when I would slide open the keyboard. Not always, but quite annoying. The past few days it started getting stuck in the bootloader on initial start. I would reset it, remove the battery, etc. Still it would go to the bootloader. I even tried the exitbl utility and although it sends the data and executes the reset, it still goes back to the bootloader. Screen says:
TITA100 MFG
SPL-2.40.Olipro
CPLD-9
I figured it was a bug with the rom or whatnot, so I (microsd) reflashed it with the latest official Sprint rom. It still goes into the bootloader. If I hit the reset button enough times, it will occasionally boot up. No idea what's goin on here. Don't understand how it could be random either.
Any ideas?
do you have the wire that you plug in for headphones?
it's the headphone/ USB plug?
if so plug it in and just push the soft reset button
it should work
Ok, that worked like a charm, thanks!
Question is it still enters the bootloader when I reset or turn off/on the phone without the adapter. Should I reflash the bootloader?
i have found no info pointing towards what is doing it. i've re-flashed with no luck
Is there a way to flash the bootloader off just the memory card? Can I copy the Hard_MFG_SPL_2.40_RUU_signed.nbh file to a card and rename it?
Figure it's worth a try.
I've got the exact same situation as you guys... Just wanted to chime in on it.
cpujunky said:
Is there a way to flash the bootloader off just the memory card? Can I copy the Hard_MFG_SPL_2.40_RUU_signed.nbh file to a card and rename it?
Figure it's worth a try.
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i think i read on another forum that you can not flash off the memory card for a bootloader.. but i do not know
Try a hard-reset and then flash to another pre-built or Kitchen built ROM that uses the 2.40 bootloader.
You must boot into the WinMo OS and get connected with Activesynch to program a bootloader. At least none of us have yet managed to figure another way to do it.
Is there a way to flash the bootloader off just the memory card? Can I copy the Hard_MFG_SPL_2.40_RUU_signed.nbh file to a card and rename it?
Figure it's worth a try.
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Do NOT, I repeat do NOT attempt to update the SPL with the memory card. The unlockers are developed to first load a temporary bootloader, then flash with an RUU once using the temporary. You will mess up your phone.
Thanks... I was having the same problem that the OP was having until I found this thread. It seems like headphone adapters other than the Sprint one works. Also, if you're stuck in the bootloader, there is no reason to flash any roms because it will have no effect at all.
Also, as an alternative, you can take out the battery for a couple hours.
By the way, I'm running dcd 3.1.2 and radio 3.37
So we know that flashing a new ROM doesn't work, and flashing different radios doesn't work. We also know the headphone adapter will get you to boot up normally, so no stuck buttons or anything. This has to be a bootloader bug or phone defect or bent usb pins or something. Has anyone tried relocking the phone? I can't express how annoying it is to carry around a headphone adapter in case you need to reboot.
Thinking,,,,,
I stopped where you see in my signature as everything works for me, but I wonder if maybe you flash back to stock, relock, put it back exactly as you started if that would straighten it out. If it still fails stock then some nice new defect has been found. If it works then go forward but only as far as I did ans see if it is stable as with mine,,,,,maybe somthing in the new ROMs???????
cpujunky said:
So we know that flashing a new ROM doesn't work, and flashing different radios doesn't work. We also know the headphone adapter will get you to boot up normally, so no stuck buttons or anything. This has to be a bootloader bug or phone defect or bent usb pins or something. Has anyone tried relocking the phone? I can't express how annoying it is to carry around a headphone adapter in case you need to reboot.
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i have relocked also. i've think i've done everything except rip the phone apart and look at the usb pins
This is not a rom issue, it's a bootloader issue. I've flashed, tested, and used all released roms and non-released (internally tested) roms numerous times on several different titans and have never seen this issue. I'm not doubting the existence of the issue, but the rom will have nothing to do with the device being stuck in the bootloader.
My guess is that something went wrong while unlocking or it's a hardware defect on a certain batch of these phones.
there was some talk over at ppcgeeks about there being something about relocking and flashing and something... however. my phone worked great and then one day it just started and nothing changed on the phone for like 3-4 weeks and then it started going to bootloader
This weekend I replaced the stock bootloader on my VZW XV6800 with SPL-2.40.Olipro; upgraded radio to 3.39.10; installed dcd's Titan 3.1.2. All went well, phone was doing fine for a couple days.
Today the battery died, nothing unusual. I plugged in AC power and turned on the phone and the bootloader displayed. Did a soft reset 2 or 3 times, no change. Disconnected AC, popped out the battery, let it sit while I search and found this thread.
I used a can o' air to blast out the USB/power port on the phone. Put in the battery, powered the phone, and the OS loaded just fine. Soft reset the phone and again could only get to the bootloader. Poppped out the battery again, found my USB/headphone adapter, connected it, returned the battery and powered the phone, and the OS loaded just fine.
This is a long way of saying I'm experiencing the same that's been reported in this thread. Is there a fix for this issue? It seems like an issue with the device to me. Was there any confirmation that there was a "bad batch" of phones and is a hardware issue with the XV6800?
I am also experiencing this same problem.
I flashed to 3.1.2, then to 3.2.0 today...nothing changed. It still loads the bootloader when i do any kind of a reset without the usb or the headphones plugged in.
The only odd thing that i can comment on during my experience is that my USB cable failed on me and I had to replace it. Seems odd, but perhaps that can shed some light on the problem.
Did anyone find a solution to this problem? Is it a hardware issue?

Did I brick my PPC6800?

This is what happened:
I received a used Alltel PPC6800. It had WM5 installed. I called Alltel to activate the phone. It activated and reset itself... to the bootloader. I couldn't get it out of the bootloader, so I thought what the hell, I'll upgrade to the latest ROM that HTC put out for the Alltel PPC 6800.
The ROM loaded fine, and upgraded to bootloader to SPL-2.07.. However, it was stuck in the bootloader. So, I did a soft reset. Windows 6 started up. Then it went to auto-install the Alltel custom software. Then it reset, and has been stuck in the bootloader screen ever since. It can't be hard reset, it can't be soft reset... reloading the ROM doesn't work. I can't try changing bootloader versions because I need to be in the OS to do that. I can't load an older ROM, because it won't let me do so... it fails at 1% and says something about an Invalid ROM.
Oh, and that titan_exitbl.exe program doesn't work. It just resets the phone back to the bootloader.
I will be mailing it out for an exchange in the morning unless someone here may know of a way to get it working again.
Thanks!
NO its not bricked, it wouldnt power on. Sounds like its messed up good though, good luck
Well, I found that I *could* get it to load the OS if I used MTTY and the 'set 0 16', 'boot' trick.
I then upgraded the bootloader to above 2.4. However... it still hangs at the bootloader screen if I reset the device.
So... It seems something else is going on, that is preventing the device from loading the OS on it's own. I can't really be plugging it into a computer and running MTTY every time I need to reset the damn thing.
Any ideas?
mantispid said:
Well, I found that I *could* get it to load the OS if I used MTTY and the 'set 0 16', 'boot' trick.
I then upgraded the bootloader to above 2.4. However... it still hangs at the bootloader screen if I reset the device.
So... It seems something else is going on, that is preventing the device from loading the OS on it's own. I can't really be plugging it into a computer and running MTTY every time I need to reset the damn thing.
Any ideas?
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Have you tried to flash since you upgraded the BL....if not give it a shot and see what happens....use the SD method to flash....put NBH file on card and rename it to TITAIMG.nbh
Yup, just tried flashing from microSD, and it flashed just fine, but has the same problem.
It won't exit the bootloader. I wish I had a USB headset adapter to see if that would make it boot. I've heard that works for some of these that have this problem.

soft resetting takes my phone into bootloader

the weirdest thing started happening today. i was using my phone as normal this morning (i had soft reset 1 or 2 times earlier) and all of the sudden when i soft reset on psShutXP, it took me into bootloader. odd, but nothing an old exit_BL couldnt fix. well it wouldnt send the commands, but i found out later that once i connect the USB to my computer and it beeps, i can soft reset out of BL. but now its happening EVERY time i soft reset, even running Sprite Backup, when it soft resets, it puts itself into BL. i was running DCD 3.2.2 and i reflashed a clean ROM (and also 3.2.3) and the problem is still arising. im thinking its hardware, but i havent dropped it or got it wet. any ideas?
alright so now im completely stuck in bootloader, it wont even do anything. i left the battery out last night and it booted fine this morning. however as soon as it reset after UC (it hard reset itself) it went back into bootloader. i was trying to load the stock radio/rom so i can just take it in but it wont connect to activesync at the tap to begin. i need some serious help.
have you tried a hard reset from bootloader? you were a little confusing in your posts. what exactly are you doing from boot time to ending in BL? are you able to reflash, then after UC you get stuck in bootloader? are you doing a full restore with Sprite Backup? can you clarify exactly what is going on, step by step?
it wont hard reset in bootloader. it just refreshs the screen. well since i am in bootloader, yes, i can flash. i flashed and after it boots and runs UC and loads the programs, it soft resets and goes into bootloader. the only way i can get out of bootloader is to plug in the USB, wait a minute, then soft reset. if i soft reset (either manually, Sprite, or psShutXP) it goes into bootloader. im not 'stuck' in bootloader because i can get out, and exitBL still does nothing. ive been trying to brick it but nothing is working.
have you tried flashing and booting with your SD card removed so UC doesnt run?
kflipproductions said:
have you tried flashing and booting with your SD card removed so UC doesnt run?
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yep, and cooked a clean ROM with UC unchecked. ive never seen anything like this, its bizarre.
so even with UC off, no SD card, after reflashing if you soft reset it loads BL?
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so even with UC off, no SD card, after reflashing if you soft reset it loads BL?
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yes. im pretty much at a dead end for ideas.
have you tried reflashing bootloader itself? or a different version?
nope, trying it now.
let me know..
nope still doesnt do anything. still soft resets into bootloader.
damn. thats weird. have you tried relocking it?
kflipproductions said:
damn. thats weird. have you tried relocking it?
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i cant; it wont connect to activesync even on the today screen or anywhere. but the computer does beep so i know its connected.
get back to the point where you can boot to the today screen and turn 'advanced network functionality' off before you connect to activesync.
edit: nevermind, its not doing anything. im at the today screen. it started connecting but nothing happened.
alright thank you i got it back to stock but im going on a surfing trip til sunday so ill see what i cant do when i get back. thanks a ton
-Nick
what did you end up doing?
i took out the battery for 10 minutes and it booted up, and after being USB connected to the computer for another 10 minutes, activesync started. i flashed the stock radio/ROM and relocked to the 1.06 bootloader because i cant find the stock 1.04. anyone know if its possible to flash the 1.04 bootloader?
im thinking i could just play dumb when they ask about it. Something along the lines of, "Ohh, thats just how it came. Flash? Whats a ROM? Bootloader? HUH?"
There is no 1.04 bootloader. It comes stock with the phone. Having 1.06 on there will be fine trust me.

Downloading Sprint's New Rom For Mogul...STUCK

So after having my Mogul for quite sometime, I figured it was time to upgrade the ROM which includes the GPS, etc etc. I followed all the instructions to the "t" and when I go to update it, the phone goes to the tri-color and says "USB" at the bottom...but on my computer, it stays stuck at 0%.
I've left it go for almost 30 minutes. I end up having to shut down the update and reboot my phone. Luckily my phone wasn't affected at all. (whew!) I've tried this three times and all end up being stuck.
I'm new to all this, so ANY help would be greatly appreciated. I've searched for this same occurrence but have not read about any resolutions to the problem.
Thanks for any help!
Anyone have any suggestions?
Right now I have ROM version: 2.09651.3
I have downloaded a ROM for the Quest 'version' of the Mogul which is 3.35.656.2....will this work?
I dont get why it wont update and install the ROM.
Any help is greatly appreciated!
what version of bootloader are you using?
if its not giving you an error try letting it go overnight. Maybe its just going REAL slow.
Other than that, try one of the intermediate ROMs first, or try re-downloading the ROM and going from that.
The process is pretty simple, sync, backup anything important, establish activesync/MWDC connection, run the RUU, press yes several times, restore backup/resync.
Did you ever unlock the phone? The sprint ROMs wont load with an unlocked phone, AFAIK.
not sure what you mean by version of bootloader....
As far as running reall slow, not sure, I might try that if nothing else works.
I'm going to try the 3.35 ROM and see if that works. So stupid that it is such an easy task, yet it doesnt work....and I never "unlocked" the phone...its basically factory straight from Sprint. Again, it was bought back in December 2007 so the ROM on it is pretty 'dated'
I'll let ya know what happens...
2.09... lol.
that rom was slooow. screen flickered.
lockups.
your problem is that you cannot use a rom from a different carrier unless you unlock first. Just get the latest sprint rom and flash it.
edit: perhaps i read your post wrong. do you have the sprint or qwest rom? the qwest rom will not work. the sprint rom should work fine providing the phone has not been unlocked with olipro 1.2. Check the bootloader version when in the tri color screen. if it says olipro 1.2 then you need to update to 2.4.
If it's stock then you should be good. you could try putting the phone into bootloader before running the ruu. sometimes this helps the connection since it doesn't mess with activsync. to get to bootloader hold power + camera and hit the reset button.

possibly bricked my Verizon xv6800 =(

First off, I've been flashing my phone for almost a year now. So I don't consider myself too big of a noob. I loaded scrosler's round 4 rom. Worked great! Until I did a soft reset. It put the phone in bootloader mode and I can't boot up at all.
Here's what I have:
Olipro SPL 2.40
Radio 3.42.50
Here's what I've tried to get it out of bootloader:
mtty1.42.exe
titan_exitbl.exe
No success. I'm able to install a ROM, but as soon as it reboots after 100%, it goes right back into bootloader.
Someone please tell me it's not bricked
Try reflashing your radio.
BTC
kill the active sync processes via the task manager, then put the phone back into the usb cradle, run the titan exit bootloader and it should work.
josh77b said:
First off, I've been flashing my phone for almost a year now. So I don't consider myself too big of a noob. I loaded scrosler's round 4 rom. Worked great! Until I did a soft reset. It put the phone in bootloader mode and I can't boot up at all.
Here's what I have:
Olipro SPL 2.40
Radio 3.42.50
Here's what I've tried to get it out of bootloader:
mtty1.42.exe
titan_exitbl.exe
No success. I'm able to install a ROM, but as soon as it reboots after 100%, it goes right back into bootloader.
Someone please tell me it's not bricked
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If no other suggestion works this will... But it sucks.... Flash a stock rom. I garuntee that will fix the problem. then just flash back. You don't have to flash a VZW ROM and I recommend against it. My new recommended ROM for unlocking and flashing is the Alltel ROM. Its got the latest radio in it (which you already have). Good luck and let us know how it turns out.
thanks for all the suggestions. i'm not sure what exactly went wrong, but i spent about a day and a half just to get it working again. it's somewhat stable now.
after flashing an older dcd rom, i was somehow able to get the OS to boot up, even after the auto soft reset. immediately i wanted to upgrade the bootloader to 2.47 since i've only found it in an exe(only can run from windows mobile) version. I then was able to flash the OEM MR1. Which automatically downgraded my radio. it was definitely the most stable thing i've flashed since the phone got all screwed up. i could soft reset as much as i wanted and didn't get the blue screen of death aka bootloader.
but of course, i couldn't be satisfied with no gps and no internet sharing. i use internet sharing more since i use it when i commute to work on BART (bay area's version of the subway) 50 min each way.
so now i'm on DCD's 3.2.6 ROM with 3.42.50 radio. so far it's somewhat stable. if i soft reset, i get the bootloader sometimes. but a couple solutions to the get the OS to boot back up is
1.) take the battery out for 20-30 seconds and power up
or
2.) take the battery out, plug in the computer usb or power usb with the battery still out. somehow resets the phone? i have no idea.
but i read somewhere that ROM's were causing people to have to take their battery out for 30 seconds to boot up. I doubt it was DCD's ROM's. But who knows, maybe i ran a bad radio file, ROM, or bootloader upgrade, that really caused the initial issues.
My only issue now other than getting the bootloader once in a while is that GPS isn't working. Not that big of a deal for now since I have the Pioneer AVIC F90BT in my car now. but would be nice to have it on my phone (tomtom & google maps) for that one time that might come up when i really need it and i'm not in my car.
again thanks for your help in trying to help a brotha out.
Verizon xv6800 bootloader and startup issues
My issues are, I cant get into the bootloader screen no matter what I try(power, camera and reset). Most times my phone will only go to the verizon screen and then just go white, other times, it may show the WM 6.5 startup screen and the freeze there. This all came from me trying to install WM 6,5 Beta 5 21159 rom from WM 6.1. On another not, my pc will not see my phone. So am I completely screwed? Is there any hope? Thanks in advance for any help.
So, overall, am I screwed?
Anybody have any suggestions?
Thanks
Can anyone help? my phone will not let me into bootloader mode or even startup past the verizon splash screen. I am desperately hoping that its not bricked. Also, the pc to phone usb connection will not see eachother.
My phone will charge via the usb cable to pc. When the wifi switch is turned on, the led on opposite side of the power led will do it green blinking.
Is there anyone that has time and is willing to work with me?
Thanks in advanced.
I have taken the phone apart so that I could push the internal buttons (power, camera and reset) to see if the outer shell buttons were the problem. They werent. I also still can't get past the verizon splash screen. Anyone have any ideas?
Thanks
I you cant get into bootloader you dont have any options.

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