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Attached is a first release of a gps proxy driver. The driver goes in between the RIL and serial command to allow another incoming connection. To install import reg keys, copy the driver over to windows, restart and manualy start the ports. COM6 first then RIL. The driver is not signed so you will need to manually start it, TaskMgr works good for this. This is intentional until it tested.
After installation and starting the devices. Connect to COM6 with your terminal app or gps software and the gps stream will start. If it doesn't start the first time, try closing then reopening the connection.
The GPS information is parsed out of the stream for the GPS connection and the radio data is parsed out for the RIL.
A GPS radio stack is required.
Please report any errors, and only use this if you know what your doing. If your concerned about doing a hard reset, dont use this. I have not had to.
This is experimental.
,Dave
EDIT:
Thanks for all the testing, this driver seems to be ready for production. At this point until we make gains with the hardware no further testing is needed. Just to be clear, there is no point installing this unless your just curious to see the process. The GPS hardware is not currently working in the Hermes.
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A GPS radio stack is required.
,Dave
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You can found the newest one on:
1. ftp://xda:[email protected](GPS-enabled)Trinity2Hermes_RadioRom.rar - as nbf radio only upgrade
2. ftp://xda:[email protected](GPS-Enabled)Trinity2Hermes-SSPL-comp.zip - as nbh radio only sspl upgrade
i´ve testet both, they work!
superdave said:
Attached is a first release of a gps proxy driver. The driver goes in between the RIL and serial command to allow another incoming connection. To install import reg keys, copy the driver over to windows, restart and manualy start the ports. COM6 first then RIL. The driver is not signed so you will need to manually start it, TaskMgr works good for this. This is intentional until it tested.
After installation and starting the devices. Connect to COM6 with your terminal app or gps software and the gps stream will start. If it doesn't start the first time, try closing then reopening the connection.
The GPS information is parsed out of the stream for the GPS connection and the radio data is parsed out for the RIL.
A GPS radio stack is required.
Please report any errors, and only use this if you know what your doing. If your concerned about doing a hard reset, dont use this. I have not had to.
This is experimental.
,Dave
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tried starting the DLL with TaskMgr... not working... are you using PHM TaskMgr????
I'm using
http://buzzdev.net/index.php?option=com_phorum&Itemid=125&phorum_query=read,27,15027,page=1
Did you restart, are the indexes set correctly.
,Dave
just doesnt want to run... are you using rundll32.exe to start it then using your dll as parameters?
Nope, just going to devices, scrolling down to $device\COM6(COM6) starting it. Then starting $device\RIL1(RIL1).
Do you get any errors?
,Dave
mmmm interesting... they started automatically... i have turned unsigned notification checking off though...
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Nope, just going to devices, scrolling down to $device\COM6(COM6) starting it. Then starting $device\RIL1(RIL1).
Do you get any errors?
,Dave
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just curious what radio rom are you using and what radio bootloader do you have... i have radio bl 108 and radio rom 1.35.00.11 from the trinity...
I am using 1.31.0.11.
Is it working for you now?
,Dave
superdave said:
Attached is a first release of a gps proxy driver. The driver goes in between the RIL and serial command to allow another incoming connection. To install import reg keys, copy the driver over to windows, restart
,Dave
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when you restart your device the VRSerial hkey is deleted from HKLM\Drivers\Builtin
connected!!!!!!!!!!! in destinator 6 is shows GPS Antenna as connected... and picking up 4 satellites... woo hoo... but i cannot see how this is correct as im indoors...
No, mine stays. Trying running the reg import twice.
,Dave
read above post... its working... but as i said its getting 4 sattelites but im indoors...
This does not do anything for the quality of connection issues. It only allows you to connect from the os.
,Dave
well it works woohoo... partially though...
you guys able to get a fix?
I have not as of yet. Most I have seen is 5 sats and sig always below 40.
,Dave
Wohoo - Yes - Strike!
i love you all,
superdave, pof, sleuth, des, bot and all the other great people in place to who give piece to get this working!
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Wohoo - Yes - Strike!
i love you all,
superdave, pof, sleuth, des, bot and all the other great people in place to who give piece to get this working!
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Does this mean you got a FIX on the sat's?
If so, is it accurate?
jasjamming said:
Does this mean you got a FIX on the sat's?
If so, is it accurate?
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havent got a fix as only got a signal from a max of 5 sats
Ok, so thanks to the help of a bunch of people I was able to flash my xv6800 with the latest rado and os ROMS. I started playing with the GPS now.
I've followed the instructions in the FAQ thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=363431
Enabled location in phone settings, downloaded and installed VisualGPsce and the Gps Viewer but I cannot get any response from any satellites.
GPS Viewer, when I turn it on has all kinds of info scrolling in the message box but never even hints at connection.
Before I activated my phone after flashing the new ROMS today, I saw what I thought was the GPS icon on my phone. But after doing *228 (I think that's it) on Verzion the icon is gone. May just be a coincidence but maybe not.
Thanks for any help.
Edit: What ROM, RADIO, and PRI are you using? "latest" doesn't mean much. Need specifics. You can check this under Device Information control panel.
Install google maps
set the com port to 4, baud 4800.
Enable GPS in Google Maps
See if it says Seeking Sattelites (0) and if hte number changes. If it does it's finding sats.
Also make sure you're trying this outdoors.
Lastly I'd do the aGPS fix for Verizon that gc14 posted. WOAH faster locks.
ROM iw dcd 3.2.6 radio is 3.42.50.
I did load google maps and the number sits at 0. I have tried this outside with my garman right next to it and it was able to connect.
Protonus said:
...PRI are you using? "latest" doesn't mean much.
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And what PRI are you using?
And have you done the aGPS fix?
Protonus said:
And what PRI are you using?
And have you done the aGPS fix?
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Sorry missed that question. PRI version is 1.35_002. Haven't done the aGPS fix.
SneekyPete said:
Sorry missed that question. PRI version is 1.35_002. Haven't done the aGPS fix.
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Makes a pretty big difference. I actually get a fix indoors.
SneekyPete said:
Sorry missed that question. PRI version is 1.35_002. Haven't done the aGPS fix.
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Just do yourself a favor and do the aGPS fix. It works. Follow gc's wiki EXACTLY.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=VerizonAGPSFix
Look it over, print it out, and follow it precisely..... then fire up the GPS and smile.
tntopspin said:
Just do yourself a favor and do the aGPS fix. It works. Follow gc's wiki EXACTLY.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=VerizonAGPSFix
Look it over, print it out, and follow it precisely..... then fire up the GPS and smile.
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Ok, aGPS solved my problem. When I read the info on it it seemed optional but I'm guessing its pretty much necessary.
Thanks for the help guys. This board is a great service!
WOW WOW WOW!!!!
I have NEVER been able to have any satellites find me, and I just did the AGPS fix and used GoogleMaps and it WORKED!!!
I am so excited!! Thank you all - especially gc!
I got gps working and I was inside too!! I love this place!
dental4usa said:
WOW WOW WOW!!!!
I have NEVER been able to have any satellites find me, and I just did the AGPS fix and used GoogleMaps and it WORKED!!!
I am so excited!! Thank you all - especially gc!
I got gps working and I was inside too!! I love this place!
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Yeah the guys around here are extremely helpful.
Ok I can not get the phone into dmr mode by dialing ##3424. I have also tried to find a way to put in a command line on my phone with no success. Can someone please help point me in the right direction?
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Ok I can not get the phone into dmr mode by dialing ##3424. I have also tried to find a way to put in a command line on my phone with no success. Can someone please help point me in the right direction?
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I don't think you run it from command line persay but run it by using file explorer and clicking on the file. I could be wrong though as I'm still learning this stuff.
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Ok I can not get the phone into dmr mode by dialing ##3424. I have also tried to find a way to put in a command line on my phone with no success. Can someone please help point me in the right direction?
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if you use a file explorer like GSFinder you can go to your windows folder find DMRouter click and hold until you get a pop up to select open then select parameter then type in \Diag and hit ok... check the wiki page my backslash might need to be a foward slash I can remember right now to damn early
Does this work for ALLTEL? My gps already does work but it takes a FEW minutes to find satellites!!
Tried the file explorer found the router but it does not allow me to open it or do anything with it .
Dloe2679 said:
Does this work for ALLTEL? My gps already does work but it takes a FEW minutes to find satellites!!
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Follow Shadow-Tech's Guide for aGPS on Alltell.... HERE
Alltel has different PDE server info. But I think you can apply the same method using that info. I believe it's posted somewhere on this site and/or the PPCgeeks site.
as a side note, for Bell users:
I am on Bell, and for some reason I didn't have to do this method to get my aGPS to work. If you install the Bell carrier cab from dcd and update the PRI, the aGPS just works. It has something to do with the NV setting? I would love to understand more about why mine was so simple. The thread that I used was this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=419855
Can someone explain what the newest PRI does and why aGPS all of a sudden works? I'd be most appreciative.
Any other ideas to try I would love to get this up and running .
THANKS NITRO! I will try this out and post my results.
Just got myself a TG01 Upgrading from my old SPV M700 I have installed Co Pilot on my new phone bot it cant find the GPS Signal on it
Google Maps works spot on
Any Idea what port it uses?
Its not COM 9 As i would expect it to be?
Thanks
Beau
Hi, i have almost the same problem i install difretn program on my TG01 i i have problem because hi cannot found a gps why
go here http://www.modaco.com/content/toshiba-tg01-tg01-modaco-com/290500/tom-tom-on-tg01/
it's been dealt with few times
I'm using gps gate for memory maps on my tg01, works a treat.
For most of these programs, if there is an option for what driver/source, choose intermediate driver, other than that, it should work without gps gate
for those that use igo8 as navigation software, to be recognized the gps receiver, just add the following lines in sys.txt:
[gps]
source="virtserial"
shortjock said:
I'm using gps gate for memory maps on my tg01, works a treat.
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i found that gpsgate works like a charm as well
sadly its not freeware but you can try it out, it has a trial version
I am using NDrive .. and loving it ... so much nicer than the TomTom and Garmin.
GPSGate does work but there is another issue with the GPS on this device where it will lose the signal after a period of time and then sit there and reconnect. It does still work but intermittently disconnects and then reconnects. Apparently the same thing happens when using Garmin which actually doesnt need GPSGate, so nothing to do with the application but more to do with the hardware.
Be nice if this gets fixed when the next update comes out.
Won't hold my breath though.
I agree with you @zomig
haven't you read sticky psots?
its all been said before..-.-
RageCore said:
haven't you read sticky psots?
its all been said before..-.-
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OK then ...
Where precisely on xda-developers has the issue of the TG01 intermittently losing its GPS connection been discussed?
It is not GPSGATE causing this problem. I believe the problem lies in loosing reception for a second. Without a valid phone signal, the GPS fails to work.
Everytime I lost GPS, I also lost phone reception....
Basically what I think happens is this, somewhere in the software, if the phone signal is lost, the A-GPS is lost, the proper GPS chipset is shutdown too, which throws the GPS program.
Then the phone signal comes back, A-GPS gets a fix and boots the proper GPS up.
My idea is to disable the A-GPS as its useless anyway and get it working on a traditional way. GPS chipset only.
i don't use A-GPS and I still have this problem.
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i don't use A-GPS and I still have this problem.
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A-GPS comes on automatically alongside with the proper GPS. You cannot specify it.
I have noticed that I loose signal when the GPS is running otherwise it's fine
I hope Toshiba fix this soon, it does get annoying!!
No sound on Toshiba TG01 for IGO App,
I got the GPS to work with the Virt serial but I cannot get the sound to work at all. Has anyone got the voices to work?
BiG K said:
A-GPS comes on automatically alongside with the proper GPS. You cannot specify it.
I have noticed that I loose signal when the GPS is running otherwise it's fine
I hope Toshiba fix this soon, it does get annoying!!
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Dear friend, that's odd, GPS and phone are separated because if you switch off the phone (Fly mode) , GPS still works perfectly...
Pere said:
Dear friend, that's odd, GPS and phone are separated because if you switch off the phone (Fly mode) , GPS still works perfectly...
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Not on the TG01, which is the problem, when the phone is in flight mode (or no sim card) the GPS fails to work! Which makes me question if A-GPS which works through the cellular network has something to do with all the problems......
BiG K said:
Not on the TG01, which is the problem, when the phone is in flight mode (or no sim card) the GPS fails to work! Which makes me question if A-GPS which works through the cellular network has something to do with all the problems......
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My GPS works perfectly without SIM card..
hello! I am new to this internal GPS thing (I used external bluetooth gps on a qtek 9000 up till now) I tried to find answers on google about how I can connect my igo8 to the internal gps and I cannot find any useful one. could you please help me with detailed instructions?
thank you!
When running GPS apps the phone is fine (eg Google maps, Tomtom) but once Igo has been used all other apps fail to find the GPS untill a restart (as though it locks down the GPS to itself), this is with official and custom roms, also the likes of GPS gate. The same install of GMaps and Igo however work fine on my womans HD2 :/ anyone else witnessed this or have a cure for it?
Same problem here!
It took me half a day to get to the bottom of this. I installed iGO8 on my recently purchased TG01 and it would not find the GPS.
Obviously, lots of people are having the very same problem.
Solutions include using GPSGate, gpsplex or GPSModDriver. Those all seem to work with some people - or not.
I finally managed to get a GPS-signal WITHOUT any of these solutions!
By simply adding this to the SYS.TXT:
[gps]
source="virtserial"
When I tried it at first, iGO8 would crash back to the today screen! OK, second try, same result. AFTER I did a soft reset (for a different reason) and restarted iGO8 it suddenly worked (for the first time)! Hmm.
Once I started iGO8 a second time it would crash again. IF I deleted the [gps]-command it would start properly again - without any GPS-reception of course. Exiting, than putting the lines back in would also crash iGO8!
BUT if if unhooked the GPS-reception in the iGO8-settings, exited iGO8, inserted the [gps]-command in SYS.TXT and then started iGO8, it would work again!
After a while I figured out that a simple soft reset is also sufficient. Still a hassle, but not the end of the world.
Let's see if someone finds a more elegant solution!
zar1967 said:
It took me half a day to get to the bottom of this. I installed iGO8 on my recently purchased TG01 and it would not find the GPS.
Obviously, lots of people are having the very same problem.
Solutions include using GPSGate, gpsplex or GPSModDriver. Those all seem to work with some people - or not.
I finally managed to get a GPS-signal WITHOUT any of these solutions!
By simply adding this to the SYS.TXT:
[gps]
source="virtserial"
When I tried it at first, iGO8 would crash back to the today screen! OK, second try, same result. AFTER I did a soft reset (for a different reason) and restarted iGO8 it suddenly worked (for the first time)! Hmm.
Once I started iGO8 a second time it would crash again. IF I deleted the [gps]-command it would start properly again - without any GPS-reception of course. Exiting, than putting the lines back in would also crash iGO8!
BUT if if unhooked the GPS-reception in the iGO8-settings, exited iGO8, inserted the [gps]-command in SYS.TXT and then started iGO8, it would work again!
After a while I figured out that a simple soft reset is also sufficient. Still a hassle, but not the end of the world.
Let's see if someone finds a more elegant solution!
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After a year using GPSgate without problems. A hundred times better than soft reset!
Pere said:
After a year using GPSgate without problems. A hundred times better than soft reset!
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I paid for my smartphone, I paid for iGO8 and now I shall pay for this?
Better a few soft resets per day than pay!
zar1967 said:
It took me half a day to get to the bottom of this. I installed iGO8 on my recently purchased TG01 and it would not find the GPS.
Obviously, lots of people are having the very same problem.
Solutions include using GPSGate, gpsplex or GPSModDriver. Those all seem to work with some people - or not.
I finally managed to get a GPS-signal WITHOUT any of these solutions!
By simply adding this to the SYS.TXT:
[gps]
source="virtserial"
When I tried it at first, iGO8 would crash back to the today screen! OK, second try, same result. AFTER I did a soft reset (for a different reason) and restarted iGO8 it suddenly worked (for the first time)! Hmm.
Once I started iGO8 a second time it would crash again. IF I deleted the [gps]-command it would start properly again - without any GPS-reception of course. Exiting, than putting the lines back in would also crash iGO8!
BUT if if unhooked the GPS-reception in the iGO8-settings, exited iGO8, inserted the [gps]-command in SYS.TXT and then started iGO8, it would work again!
After a while I figured out that a simple soft reset is also sufficient. Still a hassle, but not the end of the world.
Let's see if someone finds a more elegant solution!
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After a year using GPSgate without problems. A hundred times better than soft reset!
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Thanks for the replies, but with both,
[gps]
source="virtserial"
and GPS gate I still have other GPS software fail to find the GPS device after using Igo (though mine doesn't crash out on multiple runs) Tomtom, Gmaps etc all live happily next to each other, though GPS Gate is needed for Tomtom, and as said the same software taken straight from my phone and placed on the partners HD2 doesn't suffer the same problem. I also am running atm FFBoys custom rom and that allows me to change the default port the GPS device is found on so no more com9 issues are suffered either, and the rteset is a pain especially infront of dodgy iPhone users
Try this and most if not all gps soft should work without gates and stuff. Never liked that proggie anyway. Neither did i like the idea of secondary prog running behind. Phone does not need any help, it can manage on its own
Jonous said:
Try this and most if not all gps soft should work without gates and stuff.
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Thanks for the effort, but GpsModDriver does not work for me! Although it will allow iGO8 to detect a GPS-receiver at the proper port, there is no reception!
Besides, there is already a version 3.10 around. Checkout at handheld (dot) softpedia (dot) com.
Neither did i like the idea of secondary prog running behind. Phone does not need any help, it can manage on its own
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No one really knows why iGO8 and some others have these problems! Is it WM, the device or the software?
Regards!
zar1967 said:
Thanks for the effort, but GpsModDriver does not work for me! Although it will allow iGO8 to detect a GPS-receiver at the proper port, there is no reception! Regards!
No one really knows why iGO8 and some others have these problems! Is it WM, the device or the software?
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Hmm this shouldn't be. No reception at all? This sounds like the disconnection problems i used to have, eg finding satellites and receiving data and after a minute or so suddenly red icon and no data downloaded. Or another scenario finding satellites normally during the first run and after exiting igo and then loading it again it wouldn't receive data. I had problems of gps disconnections with stock rom and also with radio 5005.1600 and i had to reset my phone to get signal again. Realy annoying and led me to assume that i had a defective phone. That was not the case. First of all that problem appeared while in gsm mode but when i turned to 3g signal was steady and never lost it. Now after having tried several different radios i have found one that suits me with great call sound quality, another problem with the stock rom, and also gps signal wthout disconnections in both gsm and 3g mode.
Have you tried switching to another radio and do your tests? I don't know the radio your current rom uses but if it's the 1600 it has gps disconnection problems. Also try a cr***ed version of igo to see if this happens. I also have the program in an original sd card but i cannot be limited to the small capacity of the 2gb card and unfortunately i cannot copy the original card to a bigger capacity card either because it's protected. So i chose to use a *** version, though i don't consider myself a pirate
Hi!
Jonous said:
Hmm this shouldn't be. No reception at all?
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As I said: if I install GPSModDriver instead of using the [gps]-command in the SYS.TXT I can set the COM-port and iGO8 will detect a GPS-receiver there. But that's all. It will blink green and pick up no satellites. And trust me, I waited 30 minutes just to make sure! Once I switched back and put [gps] back into SYS.TXT it worked at once!
This sounds like the disconnection problems i used to have, eg finding satellites and receiving data and after a minute or so suddenly red icon and no data downloaded.
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I haven't done too much testing yet, since I'm still using my old navigation system. But over the weekend I will try and see if the current configuration works properly over a longer period of time.
Or another scenario finding satellites normally during the first run and after exiting igo and then loading it again it wouldn't receive data.
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If I restart iGO8 without a soft reset in between it will always crash back to the today screen after loading to the cockpit screen. Worse, if I try that several times it may enter a "death cycle" where iGO8 restarts over and over again until I press and hold the on/off-button for the TG01 to shut down.
Interestingly in the short time span where iGO8 is completely loaded you CAN see the yellow spots on the GPS-detection (cockpit screen) which means that it picks up satellites! But the next second it will freeze, crash and then overwrite the graphics onscreen with the today screen. An error log would maybe help here.
and led me to assume that i had a defective phone.
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My TG01 is a used one but from a reliable trader. So, I don't think that it is the smartphone itself but a problem involving either the software or the driver/driver support.
Have you tried switching to another radio and do your tests?
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Not yet! I switched back to an official ROM released by Toshiba after I concluded that maybe there was a problem, but the errors/solutions remain exactly the same.
Since I'm not the biggest fan of their pre-installed software package, I switched back again to "pure" WM 6.5 provided by Nokser.
I don't know the radio your current rom uses but if it's the 1600 it has gps disconnection problems.
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I'm using: Radio Version: v.5005.1700.05
Also try a cr***ed version of igo to see if this happens.
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Since I own two legally purchased licenses of iGO8 (1x PDA, 1x PNA) I'm always doing a bit of "beta testing".
Same results! The 8.32.x version I tried actually behaved even worse than the 8.34.x version I've been using for some time now!
So i chose to use a *** version, though i don't consider myself a pirate
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To the heroic "pirate hunters" out there we're already "pirates" because we talk on this forum and dare to do stuff with (and to) our hardware (and software) that we're not allowed AND supposed to.
Hell, even attempting to flash another ROM onto this device will cancel any warranty!
Regards!
Testing complete!
Today, I took the TG01 with iGO8 out for some testing!
Setup:
- Ultra ProEdition WM ® CE OS 5.2 23569 - Build 23569[20/06/2010][GERMAN] (by Nokser)
- Radio Version: v.5005.1700.05
- iGO8 8.3.4.142975 (May 11 2010)
- no gpsmodriver or other similar software/driver installed
- SYS.TXT with [gps]-command added
And here are the results:
- Within city limits the GPS-reception worked perfectly! Fast, strong and responsive. I tested it for about 30-45 minutes. No glitches, no hang-ups. TMC-support was provided by an external bluetooth device.
- Once entering the motorway and speeding up the GPS-signal was lost within 20 minutes - at a speed of about 120-150 km/h. It did not re-establish and after awhile iGO8 even lost the GPS-receiver itself - red light blinking! When I restarted iGO8 (without a soft reset) it would find the GPS-receiver and satellites again for about 20-30 seconds, than crash back to the today screen.
- After a soft reset and at high speed (150km/h) on the motorway iGO8 would find the satellites again than lose them after about 30-60 seconds. Same behaviour as above.
- Returning within the city limits and after a soft reset, everything worked just fine again until the very end of the trip (another 30 minutes).
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Additional testing during the trip:
I also have an external GPS-mouse (bluetooth) which I connected it to the TG01, removed the [gps]-command from SYS.TXT and started iGO8. No problems here!
Same during any part of the trip - perfect GPS-reception, no glitches or hang-ups.
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Conclusion:
Either the device itself has a problem with continuous GPS-reception (e.g. the radio and/or its driver) - which should be tested with other softwares to provide some more conclusive data. Or iGO8 and the support for TG01's GPS-receiver is the culprit to blame!
Regards!
While all help is appreciated, the main issue that I have is not the running of Igo, it is after using and exiting it that no other program can use the GPS! A soft reset cures that, but still it seems to be Igo holding onto the port some how and denying everything else access to it, be it Tomtom, Google maps, GPSGate etc on official and cooked roms.
ZedEx48K said:
the main issue that I have is not the running of Igo, it is after using and exiting it that no other program can use the GPS!
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We have a common goal! If someone finds out what's causing iGO8's behaviour there may be a fix around that helps both of us.
Regards!
zar1967 said:
Today, I took the TG01 with iGO8 out for some testing!
Setup:
- Ultra......TMC-support was provided by an external bluetooth device.......
Conclusion:
Either the device itself has a problem with continuous GPS-reception (e.g. the radio and/or its driver) - which should be tested with other softwares to provide some more conclusive data. Or iGO8 and the support for TG01's GPS-receiver is the culprit to blame!
Regards!
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I've been 11 months using IGO +GPSGate without no hangs at all.
By the way (perhaps out threat but interest me) could you explain how do you provide TMC-suport?
Thank you!
Pere said:
I've been 11 months using IGO +GPSGate without no hangs at all.
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I'm already wondering what kind of driver GPSGate provides in this case that makes running GPS-dependent software so obviously less problematic than the standard WM-setup!
By the way (perhaps out threat but interest me) could you explain how do you provide TMC-suport?
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I actually have two options for TMC-support! First of all an external GPS-mouse (bluetooth) that comes with a TMC-receiver integrated. It's the Royaltek RTG-2000. I got it new for 25 Euros quid from eBay. Reception is very good (in both cases)! There are only two disadvantages: 1. It uses a plugin antenna (wire aerial) for TMC-reception you have to setup every time you use it first. 2. The proprietary (and rather hard to change) accu it comes with is only 650mA which means it doesn't last very long without recharging!
The other is option is also bluetooth-based and directly connected to my car radio. It's called Navilock TMC Y-Adapter. This one's a bit more elegant, since it's directly wired to the car radio's antenna and power supply and thus disappears completely and doesn't need any extra setup. It's also much more expensive at 55-65 Euros. But the TMC-reception is excellent and it works like a charm. Well, ok, iGO8 3.2x versions will not be able to detect it, and I have to use version 3.4x instead!
Regards!
Did some testing with GPSGate today as more and more people recommend it to me.
When I installed it last time the GPS-receiver picked up no satellites at all - even after a wait of up to 30 minutes and under open sky!
This time there were no problems at all. Maybe this has something to do with Nokser's WM-build or the radio version. No idea yet.
Step by step:
- installed GPSGate with GPS-receiver pointed to COM 2
- removed [gps]-command from SYS.TXT
- started iGO8 and pointed GPS-receiver to COM 2
- GPS-receiver was detected, satellites were found
- restarted iGO8 to see if hangups/crashed would occur, but no problems there
Every time I restart it will work properly.
The only thing I have to test yet is how it behaves over a longer period, outside the city and at higher speeds!
Conclusion:
Looks like iGO8 is responsible for the troubles and this should be pointed out to Nav'N'Go ASAP so that they can do something about it!
In the meantime, using GPSGate seems to be an ok-solution and it's really not too expensive if other problems with GPS-detection/reception are also fixed by it.
Regards!
zar1967 said:
Did some testing with GPSGate today as more and more people recommend it to me.
When I installed it last time the GPS-receiver picked up no satellites at all - even after a wait of up to 30 minutes and under open sky!
This time there were no problems at all. Maybe this has something to do with Nokser's WM-build or the radio version. No idea yet.
Step by step:
- installed GPSGate with GPS-receiver pointed to COM 2
- removed [gps]-command from SYS.TXT
- started iGO8 and pointed GPS-receiver to COM 2
- GPS-receiver was detected, satellites were found
- restarted iGO8 to see if hangups/crashed would occur, but no problems there
Every time I restart it will work properly.
The only thing I have to test yet is how it behaves over a longer period, outside the city and at higher speeds!
Conclusion:
Looks like iGO8 is responsible for the troubles and this should be pointed out to Nav'N'Go ASAP so that they can do something about it!
In the meantime, using GPSGate seems to be an ok-solution and it's really not too expensive if other problems with GPS-detection/reception are also fixed by it.
Regards!
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Yes, but try using Google maps or Tomtom after Igo.
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Yes, but try using Google maps or Tomtom after Igo.
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Let me get this straight: Even with GPSGate installed and running, only iGO8 will "lock" the GPS-serial once you used it? If you use e.g. the combination of TomTom, Google Maps and iGO8 - in that order- it will work? But if you start and use iGO8 first, the other two won't without restarting the phone?
Hm. Interesting. But also pointing again towards iGO8 as the culprit for the problem!
Regards!
zar1967 said:
Let me get this straight: Only iGO8 will "lock" the GPS-serial once you used it? If you use e.g. the combination of TomTom, Google Maps and iGO8 - in that order- it will work. But if I start and use iGO8 first the other two won't?
Hm. Interesting. But also pointing again towards iGO8 as the culprit for the problem!
Regards!
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Yes! GPS programs work happily all day long one after another (the ones I use anyway), once Igo8 has been used nothing else will work again till a reset (though Igo8 will continue to work).
2 things of note, I am currently running IGO8 Ver 8.3.2.124260 (Dec 16 2009), does anyone know where to get the latest *cough* version for testing reasons?
Secondly no matter what port I set IGO to (1 to 9) IGO finds the GPS on everyone of them!.....??
So is it the phone or the IGO version at fault?
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Let me get this straight: Even with GPSGate installed and running, only iGO8 will "lock" the GPS-serial once you used it? If you use e.g. the combination of TomTom, Google Maps and iGO8 - in that order- it will work? But if you start and use iGO8 first, the other two won't without restarting the phone?
Hm. Interesting. But also pointing again towards iGO8 as the culprit for the problem!
Regards!
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GPSGate allows to use two or three (even more depending the memory usage) GPS dependent software AT THE SAME TIME. For instance you can use Igo and grab your itinerary on COMPE GPS simultaneously!!
(Remark: I'm not a GPS Gate employee )
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Hi.
I have got observations from differtent roms ( not anly my roms and with different radios - even last 321 ) that very rarely ( I noticed only once per one tested rom but my tests were too short ) something wrong happens with GPS service. None program gets any data from GPS port. Changing managed port in this case gives nothing. Programs simply do not get any NMEA data.
Maybe return of GPS service from sleep mode is not always correct ?
As I remember some people had similar problems and they had to restart WM.
I detected is is not necessary because it is enough to restart GPS service and all start to work perfect. That is why in my new rom updates ( not in UPDATE3 ) I will include small utility for GPS restart.
Have anybody similar observations ?
Regards
fxdjacentyfxd
fxdjacentyfxd said:
Hi.
I have got observations from differtent roms ( not anly my roms and with different radios - even last 321 ) that very rarely ( I noticed only once per one tested rom but my tests were too short ) something wrong happens with GPS service. None program gets any data from GPS port. Changing managed port in this case gives nothing. Programs simply do not get any NMEA data.
Maybe return of GPS service from sleep mode is not always correct ?
As I remember some people had similar problems and they had to restart WM.
I detected is is not necessary because it is enough to restart GPS service and all start to work perfect. That is why in my new rom updates ( not in UPDATE3 ) I will include small utility for GPS restart.
Have anybody similar observations ?
Regards
fxdjacentyfxd
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Good idea, we have all noticed that a soft reset is necessary to get back gps functionality, so a utility that would do it for us would be great, its a bane of using the TG01, if possible could you make this utility available to all?
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Good idea, we have all noticed that a soft reset is necessary to get back gps functionality, so a utility that would do it for us would be great, its a bane of using the TG01, if possible could you make this utility available to all?
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Seconded Even after spending some time looking at the AGPS dimension, I've not been completely convinced that there wasn't something else happening - if it can be better controlled by a service management applet, that would be a very useful advance. Would also much appreciate if can be made available (or appropriate advice on config).
Best regards,
Kevin
(InsertNameHere) said:
Good idea, we have all noticed that a soft reset is necessary to get back gps functionality, so a utility that would do it for us would be great, its a bane of using the TG01, if possible could you make this utility available to all?
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Yes, I can share it with all users but it will be difficult to prove it really works ( You have only my word ) unless someone has found a way to "force" GPS service to stop working good. Usage is very simple. After You start it You get message "GPS service restared".
That is all.
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fxdjacentyfxd
Hi everyone, I use the latest version of GPSMod on my TG01 and I have no GPS problems whatsoever.
I am currently using MiROM1_rel5 with 1800 radio and all is fine, even before using this rom (apart from when I tried radio 321) I have never had any issues with the GPS after I started using GPSMod.
I use IGO with my TG01 and you will probably know from other threads that this is probably the worst package to get working on the TG01 but I don’t have any GPS issues at all.
Use the latest version (3_4_2) and keep everything at the default settings and it configures COM2 as the 'new' GPS port and I use this in my SYS.TXT
[GPS]
port="2"
baud_rate="4800"
I have just come back from Italy and when I turned on my TG01 outside Nice airport and I got a lock in less than 2mins and using my TG01 in and around Italy no issues and when I returned back to good old UK it took a couple of mins to get the first fix but its been fine.
dr_strangetrick said:
Hi everyone, I use the latest version of GPSMod on my TG01 and I have no GPS problems whatsoever.
I am currently using MiROM1_rel5 with 1800 radio and all is fine, even before using this rom (apart from when I tried radio 321) I have never had any issues with the GPS after I started using GPSMod.
I use IGO with my TG01 and you will probably know from other threads that this is probably the worst package to get working on the TG01 but I don’t have any GPS issues at all.
Use the latest version (3_4_2) and keep everything at the default settings and it configures COM2 as the 'new' GPS port and I use this in my SYS.TXT
[GPS]
port="2"
baud_rate="4800"
I have just come back from Italy and when I turned on my TG01 outside Nice airport and I got a lock in less than 2mins and using my TG01 in and around Italy no issues and when I returned back to good old UK it took a couple of mins to get the first fix but its been fine.
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Hi.
We do not say about any regular GPS failure but about very rare cases.
Nobody knows when it happens so it can concerns Your solution too.
It would be desirable that users who met this problem, tell us what GPS drivers/software they used when it happened.
Regards
fxdjacentyfxd
fxdjacentyfxd said:
Hi.
We do not say about any regular GPS failure but about very rare cases.
Nobody knows when it happens so it can concerns Your solution too.
It would be desirable that users who met this problem, tell us what GPS drivers/software they used when it happened.
Regards
fxdjacentyfxd
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Igo varients normally lose signal or find sats, then lose signal, radio 0321 improves things a lot for me, but still... GPS signal lost is a common problem, and it never really recovers until a soft reset.
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but still... GPS signal lost is a common problem, and it never really recovers until a soft reset.
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Could You describe it more ?
Do You know whether and how to cause such "unrecoverable" situation so that to get 100% prove my "GPS restarter" really could help ?
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fxdjacentyfxd
fxdjacentyfxd said:
Could You describe it more ?
Do You know whether and how to cause such "unrecoverable" situation so that to get 100% prove my "GPS restarter" really could help ?
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fxdjacentyfxd
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I can probably prove this using GPSTest on my current radio, if not IGO will do it
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I can probably prove this using GPSTest on my current radio, if not IGO will do it
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Ok. I will try to upload my utility maybe today evening or tomorrow.
Do what You can to "damage" GPS and apply restarter.
Here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12492189&postcount=1
my utility.
Remember to stop all navigation software before execution of this utility.
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fxdjacentyfxd
fxdjacentyfxd said:
Ok. I will try to upload my utility maybe today evening or tomorrow.
Do what You can to "damage" GPS and apply restarter.
Here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12492189&postcount=1
my utility.
Remember to stop all navigation software before execution of this utility.
Regards
fxdjacentyfxd
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Its easy to damage GPS, start a gps app, then exit it, gps no longer works till you restart the device, thats how its always worked for me, anyway, after trying your app, still have the same problem. I am sure others can also test for you.
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Its easy to damage GPS, start a gps app, then exit it, gps no longer works till you restart the device, thats how its always worked for me, anyway, after trying your app, still have the same problem. I am sure others can also test for you.
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Hmm, I guess it must be other kind of problem. I have never had a situation when navigation software "kills" GPS ( Ozi Explorer and Garmin Mobile XT ). It was rather after return tg01 from sleep or something other.
1) Do You utilize "standard" GPS driver from any official ROM ?
2) Do You use managed port ( which ) or hardware port ?
3) It happens only with IGO software or any other You execute ?
I have created some simple "terminal" software for PNA devices so maybe we could do some kind of diagnostic.
P.S. As a matter of fact my utility restarts "managed port service" not real gps driver. I can see I have to modify my utility for You. I will restart both: GPS driver and gps service. Maybe it will help.
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fxdjacentyfxd
fxdjacentyfxd said:
Hmm, I guess it must be other kind of problem. I have never had a situation when navigation software "kills" GPS ( Ozi Explorer and Garmin Mobile XT ). It was rather after return tg01 from sleep or something other.
1) Do You utilize "standard" GPS driver from any official ROM ?
2) Do You use managed port ( which ) or hardware port ?
3) It happens only with IGO software or any other You execute ?
I have created some simple "terminal" software for PNA devices so maybe we could do some kind of diagnostic.
P.S. As a matter of fact my utility restarts "managed port service" not real gps driver. I can see I have to modify my utility for You. I will restart both: GPS driver and gps service. Maybe it will help.
Regards
fxdjacentyfxd
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Glad you figured out the problem, i wasn't suggesting that your utility definately didn't work, but i used some simple gps tests, IGO, wait for it to find some sats, then exit, after exit, no gps programs can work again till soft reset, same with the simple GPStest 1.04, i think if your utility restarts both, you will have a very robust little utility.
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Glad you figured out the problem, i wasn't suggesting that your utility definately didn't work, but i used some simple gps tests, IGO, wait for it to find some sats, then exit, after exit, no gps programs can work again till soft reset, same with the simple GPStest 1.04, i think if your utility restarts both, you will have a very robust little utility.
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You can "kill" GPS too simply. Maybe problem is rom dependent or mentioned
applications bahaves in wrong way. Any other users of the same rom report this problem ?
Could You give me any link to download GPStest 1.04 and write some explanations how You used to utilize it ? Just simple steps to "kill" GPS.
It seems to be simple application so I can test what happens .
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fxdjacentyfxd
fxdjacentyfxd said:
You can "kill" GPS too simply. Maybe problem is rom dependent or mentioned
applications bahaves in wrong way. Any other users of the same rom report this problem ?
Could You give me any link to download GPStest 1.04 and write some explanations how You used to utilize it ? Just simple steps to "kill" GPS.
It seems to be simple application so I can test what happens .
Regards
fxdjacentyfxd
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You can download GPS Test here
Its very simple application, it scans com ports for gps, then just tests how many sats can be found, very very siimple, but very useful for testing whether you can get a lock or not.
So, run gps test, scan for ports, wait for a lock, then exit program, then restart, see if it works again, for me it would not, this may also be dependant on radio, i am currently using mirom8 with radio 0300
I know it doesn't fix the problem but with GpsMod I can start IGo, exit then open Google maps (which is also set to COM2) then exit, then open something like PUTTY and use COM2 then exit and go back to IGo all without having to soft reset and every application working.
It would be great if we could get the gps to work as good an htc gps but for those having problems with the gps then GpsMod is the answer.
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You can download GPS Test here
Its very simple application, it scans com ports for gps, then just tests how many sats can be found, very very siimple, but very useful for testing whether you can get a lock or not.
So, run gps test, scan for ports, wait for a lock, then exit program, then restart, see if it works again, for me it would not, this may also be dependant on radio, i am currently using mirom8 with radio 0300
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I think it is rom/gps driver dependent. I tested GPS via GpsTest. Works perfect.
To catch first 3d fix my tg01 needed a little time. It is obvious.
Then I exited and started GpsTest few times. Every time after start, it showed immediately 3d fix and at least 5-6 sattelites.
P.S. I always utilize COM4 managed port.
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fxdjacentyfxd
fxdjacentyfxd said:
I think it is rom/gps driver dependent. I tested GPS via GpsTest. Works perfect.
To catch first 3d fix my tg01 needed a little time. It is obvious.
Then I exited and started GpsTest few times. Every time after start, it showed immediately 3d fix and at least 5-6 sattelites.
P.S. I always utilize COM4 managed port.
Regards
fxdjacentyfxd
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OK, it must be IGO, what would be useful then, is if the uitility had a mortscript or batch type ability, say you go to run a GPS utility or a GPS navigation application, your utility restarts gps driver and service, then runs program, then does a driver/service restart upon exit. I think its IGO that takes over the port, obviously other people may not have this problem, but i have noticed it on many roms.
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OK, it must be IGO, what would be useful then, is if the uitility had a mortscript or batch type ability, say you go to run a GPS utility or a GPS navigation application, your utility restarts gps driver and service, then runs program, then does a driver/service restart upon exit. I think its IGO that takes over the port, obviously other people may not have this problem, but i have noticed it on many roms.
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What my utility potentially can do , You can do manualy so we will know whether it will help. So when You "kill" gps , do as follows:
1) Execute fdcTaskmanager.
2) Go to services
3) Stop gps service
4) Go to devices
5) Stop gps driver
6) Start gps driver
7) Go to services
8) Start gps service
9) Exit fdcTaskManager
If now IGO or other software will show satelites, modification of my utility have sense to fix Your problems.
Regards
fxdjacentyfxd
fxdjacentyfxd said:
What my utility potentially can do , You can do manualy so we will know whether it will help. So when You "kill" gps , do as follows:
1) Execute fdcTaskmanager.
2) Go to services
3) Stop gps service
4) Go to devices
5) Stop gps driver
6) Start gps driver
7) Go to services
8) Start gps service
9) Exit fdcTaskManager
If now IGO or other software will show satelites, modification of my utility have sense to fix Your problems.
Regards
fxdjacentyfxd
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OK, i will test for you, no problem, and thanks, great work, run out of thanks right now. I am going to reflash to a different rom and try this out.