Does someone know if the HTC shift can be charged via the USB port?
This might allow: 1) use of an external power supply via USB; b) hot swap of standard Shift battery 3) Emergency power in a pinch...
Should it be possible?
barenbaren said:
Does someone know if the HTC shift can be charged via the USB port?
This might allow: 1) use of an external power supply via USB; b) hot swap of standard Shift battery 3) Emergency power in a pinch...
Should it be possible?
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No
The shift needs alot more powere than what a usb port can provide, so it's newer going to happen
Yup = the charger outputs 12 v and USB is of course 5 v - Too bad WOuld have been cool to hot swap the battery though...
another charging-related question
My SHIFT has stopped recognizing when the external power supply is plugged in: no orange LED, no icon toggle, no switch to the plugged-in power management profile. The battery charges okay, so I can live with it, but it is annoying. I suspect a component in the charging electronics has failed, but am curious about alternative theories, and if anyone else has this problem.
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My SHIFT has stopped recognizing when the external power supply is plugged in: no orange LED, no icon toggle, no switch to the plugged-in power management profile. The battery charges okay, so I can live with it, but it is annoying. I suspect a component in the charging electronics has failed, but am curious about alternative theories, and if anyone else has this problem.
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I guess that's something for the HTC repair service - i really hope they're better than the company that does HTC service in germany...
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Guys,
I am a service tech for HTC. I would like to tell you couple of things.
When there is red right, Battery will not charge with the chargers (Electrical or USB). It will flash with Car Charger as the charge is high in Car charger.
If you see Red light..your Battery is fine. there is no point of changing the battery.
There are two IC in the motherboard of HTC. One is the Charging IC & the other one is Power Consumption IC. You need to Change the Power Consumption IC, which will cost around 10-20$.
Dont follow unnessary steps as it will affect your PDA ROM sometimes.
YOur HTC will work fine for ever.
thank you for your answer
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Guys,
I am a service tech for HTC. I would like to tell you couple of things.""
so you said you are working for htc ? if so i suppose you re not allowed to give us some clues about the very specific clio hardware, like the sd card link with the snap vue side..
anyway i think you are very welcome here!
woooooooow ur welcome here defenatly, at least we can pick ur brains with few things, plz plz plz make our shift upto expectations by giving us clues not solution but pointers for making BT and SD work
looking at his lack of spelling and grammer i think he might be a joker especially his last part " YOur HTC will work fine for ever. " erm he would no thats not true if he really worked for them.
tho i hope im wrong and they can get us a shift that works with the odd lil leak of info.
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Guys,
I am a service tech for HTC. I would like to tell you couple of things.
When there is red right, Battery will not charge with the chargers (Electrical or USB). It will flash with Car Charger as the charge is high in Car charger.
If you see Red light..your Battery is fine. there is no point of changing the battery.
There are two IC in the motherboard of HTC. One is the Charging IC & the other one is Power Consumption IC. You need to Change the Power Consumption IC, which will cost around 10-20$.
Dont follow unnessary steps as it will affect your PDA ROM sometimes.
YOur HTC will work fine for ever.
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Hello friend,
I am unfortunate I damaged my Shift when power accidentally went in through the USB port thus damaging the power consumption IC in the motherboard. Unfortunately I dont seem to get the replacement part anywhere. You had mentioned that specific part in the post mentioned and I was hoping that you might be able to assist me.
Here is the thread about my unfortunate Shift..... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=701950
Car power adapter 15-25 for my htc shift is it possible?
Hi to all.
Yesterday I bought via internet a car power adapter like this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/15-24V-80W-Car-DC-Power-Adapter-Auto-Charger-Laptop-/180476771054
But my HTC SHIFT can be recharged with 12volts typical so question is:
CAN I USE 15Volts (minimum output from my new car adapter) to power my HTC SHIFT or is just a little bit more. I suppose max 20% more is just good but not more than this.
I must put a zener diode ... to reduce a little bit or as in your opinion I CAN USE IT WITHOUT PROBLEMS.
Thanks
sullivan2002
Thanks for the idea! I would defenitly put a zener between there just in case. Do make sure you use a high amp zener. I could build a boost converter to get from 5 to 12V but that would cut the amps in more than halve but it could be nice to use an external USB battery to swap my shifts battery. I have 3 battery's so that would be nice. Any idea how much a sleeping shift uses? The converter won't be able to put out more than 200mA becouse of the USB restrictions. Is it possible to keep it from charging when swapping battery? Becose i think that charging uses a lot but a sleeping shift almost nothing(not hibernate).
Guys be very careful when using chargers that are above the Shift's specific power rating. My experience with the Shift confirms that HTC did not think about safety measures when putting the Shift together. I had a small freak accident with the Shift when power entered through the USB port and instead of just blowing a fuse the entire motherboard got fried! You dont want to fry the motherboard coz getting a replacement motherboard is as difficult as swimming across the Atlantic. Ask me how I managed to swim across I will tell you.
So I would advise you to tread very carefully. For me what I did is that I had a 12V, 2A car charger for a different device lying around. I simply cut off the power jack on that car charge and replaced with one similar to the Shift wall charger jack and all is good. Of course you also have to be precise about the polarity. The Shift has several week points that you dont want to mess with
They say that the charger of an EEE PC 901 an the Asus R2H have the same charger as the shift. That is only partially true. The specs on the charger is the same but the shift uses a slightly smaller jack. The eee and the R2H are interchangeble. I have a friend with a 901 and it charges my R2H just fine. Shame becose I have 2 chargers for the R2H and only one wonky one for shiffy.
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They say that the charger of an EEE PC 901 an the Asus R2H have the same charger as the shift. That is only partially true. The specs on the charger is the same but the shift uses a slightly smaller jack. The eee and the R2H are interchangeble. I have a friend with a 901 and it charges my R2H just fine. Shame becose I have 2 chargers for the R2H and only one wonky one for shiffy.
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True it has been confirmed that Shift Charger and eee Pc is one and the same. Only difference is the jack.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=502548
So if you have a eee pc or similarly rated charger lying around you can replace the jack and you will be good to go. You can pick the Shift size jack from any elctronics shop. Thats how I managed to rig myself a Shift car charger
Hi new member and new owner of a 4G shift
to answer the OP 's original question of "can you charge off the USB"
it depends on your motherboard, I have a Gigabyte X58-UD4P and with the USB power switches enabled my phone will charge while connected to the USB port
I have 4 PCs set up and my personal rig is the only one that will do this
Now a Lap top is a different story, I would suggest checking with the manufacture
of the Lap top to see if the USB can be used for this function
usb
i charge mine vis pc usb sometimes.
works but a lot slower than the stock charger.
Could you explain if it's necesarry a especial cable or how do you conect the Shift's USB port to a energy usb porwer source?
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Hi all,
I'm not sure how many of you came from using a HTC Kaiser/TYTN II, but that phone wouldn't charge with many car chargers, since it expects that pin 4 of the USB cable should be grounded (with pin5). The charger that comes with it has a grounded pin 4, but many in-car USB chargers don't.
My question is: Will the blackstone charge off a car charger that does NOT have the pin 4 grounded?
Thanks!
I've been using an ordinary USB cable charger at work (I keep the original charger at home) and it seems to work fine. I mean, it didn't catch fire and all.
no it doesnt have the same problem as the Tytn's.
"it didn't catch fire and all" wtf?
Thankyou for the update. I was planning to manually modify my cables. Glad to not have to now.
I bought what must have been the lowest cost charger on the high street - £6 from Halfords, it comes with attachments for pretty much every phone and I can use it on both my TYTN II and My Touch HD with out any mods.
Its not the prettiest as the extension for multi connections is a little long and does not bend or twist, but it works.
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"it didn't catch fire and all" wtf?
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Oh you know, with all the fuss about batteries catching fires these days, I was half-expecting it to burn up.
Saros said:
Oh you know, with all the fuss about batteries catching fires these days, I was half-expecting it to burn up.
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The charging electronic is inside the phone, no smart charger is needed for the phones.
The only issue with those pin short were, that the phone detects if it is charged from a charger or hookup to a pc (500mA) max.
I am looking for a permanent car charger cable to install into my car.
It needs to be a 15' to 20' long with a straight cord for a hidden cable run.
I would like to hook it up to the cars wiring under the dash, run it under the windshield pillar trim to between the headliner and roof then drop out above the rear view mirror. I would then plug it into my car dock this just makes a cleaner look.
I have searched around the net but no luck yet.
Any help would be appreciated.
I haven't seen that, but what you may need to do this this. I did something like it a few years ago with a radar detector
get this or something like it
http://cgi.ebay.com/Belkin-Mini-Uni...Accessories&hash=item3a66d9f61b#ht_643wt_1396
and then a usb cord for the length you want, and attach the power and ground to the cig lighter adapter you can take it apart if you need just make sure you get the + and - right and leave the fuse in there. then tape it up nice with electrical tape and wire it in to the fuse panel to turn on with the ignition. its really not as getto as it sounds.
i just use that adapter and plug it in my back seat lighter and run the cord up by the front seat
I Would just use a cigarette lighter adapter: http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...082602&p_id=6765&seq=1&format=3#specification
hidden under the dash, and then plug in one of these:http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10303&cs_id=1030307&p_id=5138&seq=1&format=2
Everything you need to put a 12v cigarette lighter socket under the dash is available at an auto-parts store for <$10.
Why don't you just connect to the wiring that is connecting to the cigarette lighter adapter?
That way it would be 5V, and then you can connect that to a project box, and install a fuse in there, and then put the wiring from that to the usb cable.
I did this about 10 years ago, when I directly connected the radar detector, and lights under the seats controlled by buttons. Was fairly easy to do, depending on how much room you have to work with connecting the wiring.
nejohnson said:
I Would just use a cigarette lighter adapter: http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...082602&p_id=6765&seq=1&format=3#specification
hidden under the dash, and then plug in one of these:http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10303&cs_id=1030307&p_id=5138&seq=1&format=2
Everything you need to put a 12v cigarette lighter socket under the dash is available at an auto-parts store for <$10.
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Thank you very much this is close enough to what I was looking for, I will make it work!
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Thank you very much this is close enough to what I was looking for, I will make it work!
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buy a 12v socket too, get something like this, should be cheap on ebay, then just snip off the male end and stripe the cable so you can tap your car's 12v socket wiring
http://www.google.com/products/cata...sa=X&ei=9Xg6ToTpGeuksQLKluEk&ved=0CI8BEPMCMAc
Just as an FYI, as I see what you are going to do and it is a far better alternative.
A 10'+ cable will not give you full charging voltage at the end of that run. The cable is too long for the small amount of voltage running through it. While it WILL still charge, it will be at a fairly slower rate.
There is a thread in the EVO forums where I was asking cause it was something I noticed and someone who seemed to know what they were talking about when it came to electricity, replied.
I would link it, but been up all night and am getting tired.
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Just as an FYI, as I see what you are going to do and it is a far better alternative.
A 10'+ cable will not give you full charging voltage at the end of that run. The cable is too long for the small amount of voltage running through it. While it WILL still charge, it will be at a fairly slower rate.
There is a thread in the EVO forums where I was asking cause it was something I noticed and someone who seemed to know what they were talking about when it came to electricity, replied.
I would link it, but been up all night and am getting tired.
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as far as I know USB cable can go up to 5m or about 16ft, this length has more to do with data transmission signal quality issue, for straight charging there's no signal at all, so shouldn't be a problem. When you get a chance please post your link, so i can study this some more
went google found this...
http://www.otdl.com/VDROOP.PDF
Here is the thread...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=844055
Here is my post within that thread, its post 23, but my question is answered around 25.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9402352&postcount=23
Have you checked with 12 Volt Designs, they offer a couple of options that may work for you.
I would post a link, but I am still new to this forum
This is such a good idea!
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Get a 2amp 2 usb car lighter charger from Amazon and 15 or 20' micro usb cable from monoprice.com... Exactly my setup with a exo gear Exomount for my evo to windshield mount.
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I got tired of multiple cigarette lighter adapters a while back. I bought a 5A 12V to 5V converter on eBay, and wired it to switched power. It powers my phone, GPS, and Bluetooth audio gateway all from the one little box.
not sure if this justifies a topic of its own but i have kind of wrecked my hp charger cable by using it to charge my phone
i can only assume that the socket on my htc incredible S is tighter or something because the micro usb end wiggles around so much in my touchpad now it doesnt maintain a connection unless i apply pressure in a certain direction!
so just to let you all know, its probably best to keep your hp cable for your touchpad!
Why would you put it in your phone in the first place? They require different amount of power (tl;dr: you could have fried it).
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Why would you put it in your phone in the first place? They require different amount of power (tl;dr: you could have fried it).
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huh? the device only pulls as much as much power as it wants
and it only pulls 2amps when the touchpad detects the right amount of resistance
he is talking bout the cable and actually it might be the "teeth" on the micro usb being lower than it should, i basically have gone thru 4 cables because they wont stay in the right place not only because they are recessed (which i have pulled back into place but because there is a crack on the usb port..
darkassain said:
huh? the device only pulls as much as much power as it wants
and it only pulls 2amps when the touchpad detects the right amount of resistance
he is talking bout the cable and actually it might be the "teeth" on the micro usb being lower than it should, i basically have gone thru 4 cables because they wont stay in the right place not only because they are recessed (which i have pulled back into place but because there is a crack on the usb port..
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I hate micro USB, such a flimsy design.
Basically some of the male ends are a micrometer thicker, causing the female end to stretch.
At least with TouchPad, you can get an inductive charger.
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I hate micro USB, such a flimsy design.
Basically some of the male ends are a micrometer thicker, causing the female end to stretch.
At least with TouchPad, you can get an inductive charger.
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cant argue with that totally agree with the touchstone, oh if the tp was able to pull 2 amps that way though..
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Why would you put it in your phone in the first place? They require different amount of power (tl;dr: you could have fried it).
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A switching mode power supply (pretty much all newer chargers) will put out its rated voltage as long as the current draw is equal to or less than its max spec. There is a slight variation between chargers output voltage but a few tenths of a volt won't do any damage.
I have charged all sorts of devices using the TP charger without issue. My Sansa Clip using a miniUSB cord, my Droid 3 using the HP cord. The microUSB plug is a standard so ports should be the same on all devices, but I really like miniUSB better. It seems like a more robust connection than micro which feels too small and flimsy.
My charger has a usb socket so I was able to swap out the micro usb charger - can you not do that?
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oh yea, obv i can just change the cable, and quite cheaply, but was just letting people know that the slot on the touchpad must be quite big relative to other devices (though i can only vouch for my incredible S).
i'll have to buy a new cable now, though - no biggy
Sand down those spiked nibs that are supposed to hold the cable in place, they are too big to be needed and cause extra wear and tear on the units usb socket.
Taking them down to about 50% size and making them not so sharp gives the cable a good fit where it wont come out easy but its not like pulling teeth.
I learned this with my N900 lots of users did it, and now I noticed the touchpad had the same kind of fit and cable, so I consider this a necessity if you want to prolong the life of your device and minimize the possibility of something happening like what happened to the OP, atleast for him it was the cable that gave out and not the micro sub port on his TP.
my cable stopped working a while ago so im just using my samsung and htc cable,samsung cable is a real nice fit better than the TP one.
The supplied TP cable is just a flimsy POS. I've bought dollar store cables that were higher quality.
I use the TP charger and the cable that came with my phone to charge both devices. I've been doing it for months with no ill effects to the phone.
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Micro USB is a horrid and fragile setup to begin with.
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yup my usb cable doesnt work anymore. I accidentally tripped over it lol
LOL good thing i bought 3 HP touchpad chargers over the weekend.
I actually lost the stock one.. so i 'stocked' up... just in case
Just FYI, the default AC adapter that comes with the TP has two parts.
The front part rotates to separate it from the base, if it's rotated a bit - it won't charge, so double check that the front (where the prongs are) are tightened properly.
Mine's developed the same fault using it on my Galaxy S2, it's now loose on all devices and I had to throw it away. I just think the quality's poor.
The HP cable for my TP stopped charging the device too, got in touch with support and a day later I received a shiny new replacement cable which *isn't* loose
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my usb cable stopped working too (yesterday).
Well, it works but i need to hold the cable in a particular way or it stops.
Did any of you buy a replacement? if ya which one.
Hmmm, I got the touchstone and haven't used the USB since, unless plugging in to the computer to move an update.zip over. Still tight fit, and with rom I'm running touchstone seems to charge the same as the actual charger that came with touchpad.
It is actually a fact that the stock USB cables are of poor quality. So ultimately its not your fault if it goes bad. Just use another micro USB cable (even cheap ones you find at the convenience stores works great) to charge your touchpad. I've been using my micro USB which came with my phone to charge my touchpad and I must say its a perfect fit for the touchpad.
Hi All,
I was wondering if anyone had any insights in to this problem I have been having.
Briefly, I have the 4g lte verion on EE's new network. I purchased the official MHL/HDMI adapter which works fine and the video is outputed to my sammy 50inch tv fine. The issue I have is the battery drains while doing so. I belive this may to due to the phone outputting more than it is drawing from the power source. Any thoughts ?
I spoke with Samsung tech and they said a number of people have started to report this issue and they are currently testing/investigating. If this is indeed the case seems a pointless acessory as a long video would possibly drain the whole battery, Im yet to test the full drain time.
Secondly, with a 3rd party docking cradle with spare battery slot which purchased from amazon (http://www.amazon.co.uk/eLifeStore®-Samsung-Desktop-Charger-Docking/dp/B008PPRGFY) also does not charge phone properly. Even with the orignial charger in the ac port (or usb port) . The phone reports as charging but stays the same or decreases. Charged directly from the socket it is fine. Strange!
Any help or thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Ian
It's common. Mine did that too! I switched to my old S2 charger, problem solved
Thanks Ill try that out, any idea why that works ?
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Thanks Ill try that out, any idea why that works ?
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No idea man? A design fault maybe? All I know is that my phone took for f#*%ing ever to charge with the USB type wall charger. I pulled it out of the socket and plugged my other other one in that was sitting right next to it and it started charging? Checked a few minutes later and it had climbed considerably so I pulled the USB cable out of the new plug and kicked it under the bed where it now lays resting not to be used again LOL.
USB plug/cord works perfectly fine? So I use it on the computer. My laptop even charges the phone via the USB cable faster than the socket plug (which is usually the opposite - as I am sure we are all aware). So yeah I would say poor design or defective wall plug or both or something? Wasn't going to send my phone back because of it. 2second decision problem solved Samsung phone is great!
Im having exactly the same problem.
I have an s3 on orange and have the same mhl adapter conected to my tv.
I have tried the charger from my s3 which does says its charging when I connect my phone but only for about a minute so I also tried using the charger from my s2 and that just does exactly the same.
An easier way is to buy the official allshare dongle for your hdtv then you can stream anything from your phones screen direct to your tv and can have the phone on charge via pc or wall socket at the same time,
Hope this helps
i suggest you throw away your original charger (slow charge) and its usb cable (loose - actually caused the extsd to become damaged to the point i had to repartition) and buy yourself a cheap usb cable for data (£2) and a 3rd party charger (pref not a usb adapter one - £5) and all should be fine!
I still experienced a small battery drain while using the mhl adapter, however, i froze a few apps with titianuim (ones i know run all the time like utter and tasker, paragon ntfs, easy ums, directory bind etc), and put it on min brightness - works like a charm. I know its a effort freezing apps but does the trick with my phone... Since finding that out i actually keep paragon & easy ums frozen till i need them...
just a few thoughts for you....
Hi I have a Sony Xperia S SGPT-121US the "multi port" broke and now the tablet will no longer charge. I have stuff from work I really need. Is there any place I can purchase a replacement? (tried ebay,digi key already) Or can I charge thebattery any other way like Wireless or anything?
Thanks in advance for any feedback.:fingers-crossed:
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Hi I have a Sony Xperia S SGPT-121US the "multi port" broke and now the tablet will no longer charge. I have stuff from work I really need. Is there any place I can purchase a replacement? (tried ebay,digi key already) Or can I charge thebattery any other way like Wireless or anything?
Thanks in advance for any feedback.:fingers-crossed:
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is your port bad or is it the cable? i have the sgpt-1211 and i cant hardly find anything about it and $70 for some bs charger is crazy. good luck
potna said:
is your port bad or is it the cable? i have the sgpt-1211 and i cant hardly find anything about it and $70 for some bs charger is crazy. good luck
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Unfortunately it's the port I just paid $40 for a brand new charger (so mad) I can see a corner of the dock got broke off. I'm bidding on a parts tablet on ebay right now fingers crossed. Otherwise it's for parts on ebay and try to get back some money?
Different problem now
So I decided to open up the tablet and charge the battery by connecting a usb cable with one side stripped and soldered the positive and negative to the proper leads on the battery. So Now I get a red light flashing 10 times on the side where the power button and volume buttons are. Before I had nothing at all. Any Suggestions?
ty949 said:
So I decided to open up the tablet and charge the battery by connecting a usb cable with one side stripped and soldered the positive and negative to the proper leads on the battery. So Now I get a red light flashing 10 times on the side where the power button and volume buttons are. Before I had nothing at all. Any Suggestions?
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I would suggest you send it to Sony for repair, but I don't want to spoil all the fun you are having.
ty949 said:
So I decided to open up the tablet and charge the battery by connecting a usb cable with one side stripped and soldered the positive and negative to the proper leads on the battery. So Now I get a red light flashing 10 times on the side where the power button and volume buttons are. Before I had nothing at all. Any Suggestions?
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What voltage is the battery??? I have used a stripped USB cable many times to revive a dead phone battery. 5V => 3.72V is safe enough... I know the battery from the STS is a 9Vish (from memory) prehaps you could wire off the end of your tablet charger for the extra voltage?? SOUNDS LIKE FUN
so what did you end up doing? trash, won your ebay auction? sell yours??? send to sony? i'd like to know since parts for these things are going to be hard to source. also what model do you have?