Push Mail - Touch Pro CDMA

I have a friend at work thats willing to provide me one of his extra exchange server liscenses, have any of you tried this out in a home environment? If so what where the results you got? Does it work well is it meh etc.

benitojuarez said:
I have a friend at work thats willing to provide me one of his extra exchange server liscenses, have any of you tried this out in a home environment? If so what where the results you got? Does it work well is it meh etc.
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lol have it tried out it does work after many hours of setting it up but i realized it wasnt worth getting junk mail instantly so i canned it

benitojuarez said:
I have a friend at work thats willing to provide me one of his extra exchange server liscenses, have any of you tried this out in a home environment? If so what where the results you got? Does it work well is it meh etc.
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I run an exchange server out of my house and love it works great

Push required full time data connection. I don't use it because of that. I use 30 minutes poll on imap and love results.

eh Activesync doesnt use that much bandwidth actually. Its very minimal useage as it lets the connection sit idle for most of the time

I'm sure it doesn't. The problem is that the data connection has to remain live.
I poll every 30 minutes, and then 30 sec later, my connection drops.

right its live but its idle so it uses little or no battery anyway and unless you specifically make sure it disconnects the data conn it most likely will remain live as well just idle the same as push would do for you

A hotmail/live.com account is free and will get you push email.... Lots easier than setting up and managing an exchange server at your house.

derekd said:
A hotmail/live.com account is free and will get you push email.... Lots easier than setting up and managing an exchange server at your house.
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how dare you suggest i drop gmail for hotmail.
I thought push was supposed to be really easy on the battery, whats all this about constant connections?

I use it and love it. I never have to worry about backing up my contacts. Just flash new ROM and put in IP Addy of server/UsernameW and I'm good to go.
I however do notice a drain on battery if you leave it set to default "as arrives" Set mine to 30 min. as well.
Using hotmail is a good idea, but I have used the same hotmail account for YEARS and that is where I get all my junk spam. Would eat up my data connection and battery if I used that.

Is Blackberry Connect free? I've never tried. Wanna use it for my Work email (which is Groupwise - yes I know). I use PushEffect by Qorefunctions for all my other email accounts?

benitojuarez said:
how dare you suggest i drop gmail for hotmail.
I thought push was supposed to be really easy on the battery, whats all this about constant connections?
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I am really surprised not that many people use live/hotmail on there ppc. I love google/hate M$ but... When it comes to mobile product M$ beats G.
Live/Hotmail (rare link ! http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/mobile/wl/download-en-us.mspx) is REALLY convenient. With synchronization schedule "as items arrive" I still have 50-70% battery life left at the end of the day (with no2chem's rom). Did not notice much difference compared to manual sync.
Plus, you get contacts synchronization - somewhat less "pushy" - not sure, how often it syncs, but works great too. BTW, make sure to backup you contacts before installing the WLWM! MS is working on improving the live/hotmail, they are now full of AJAX and I'm looking forward for a calendar push.
With gmail trying to sync contacts is major PIA, even using 3-rd party software (and I tried many!).
If you are still unconvinced to try live/hotmail, sign up for SEVEN (http://community.seven.com/main.php) (free!)
it works as an intermediate between various POP/IMAP providers, making them work like push email - not sure how but it works. I was using it for gmail/my server's IMAP but decided to go with hotmail (they had frequent server outages this summer, I've heard they were fixing them...).
In the end, you definitely do not need blackberry or setting up home exchange (with Exchange or Kerio Mail Server) to have real time push email on the PPC!

Using SBS 2008 in the home, with it's POP connector dumping all my wanted pop accounts to my exchange mail box AND PUSh this is the best though as a MVP the SBS was free except the hardware to run it (requires 64 bit /4G's) not a good solution unless your in my line of work - PUSH was the simplist thing to setup and configure ActiveSync btw is on demand and have had no issues with call/battery

selytch said:
I am really surprised not that many people use live/hotmail on there ppc. I love google/hate M$ but... When it comes to mobile product M$ beats G.
Live/Hotmail (rare link ! http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/mobile/wl/download-en-us.mspx) is REALLY convenient. With synchronization schedule "as items arrive" I still have 50-70% battery life left at the end of the day (with no2chem's rom). Did not notice much difference compared to manual sync.
Plus, you get contacts synchronization - somewhat less "pushy" - not sure, how often it syncs, but works great too. BTW, make sure to backup you contacts before installing the WLWM! MS is working on improving the live/hotmail, they are now full of AJAX and I'm looking forward for a calendar push.
With gmail trying to sync contacts is major PIA, even using 3-rd party software (and I tried many!).
If you are still unconvinced to try live/hotmail, sign up for SEVEN (http://community.seven.com/main.php) (free!)
it works as an intermediate between various POP/IMAP providers, making them work like push email - not sure how but it works. I was using it for gmail/my server's IMAP but decided to go with hotmail (they had frequent server outages this summer, I've heard they were fixing them...).
In the end, you definitely do not need blackberry or setting up home exchange (with Exchange or Kerio Mail Server) to have real time push email on the PPC!
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hotmail does work really well. I know alot of people who have gmail and yahoo and refuse to try Hotmail. It is a great solution for Push email. Like I said I use PushEffect for all of accounts, but I need solution for my work email account which is Groupwise. Any ideas?

shaun0207 said:
hotmail does work really well. I know alot of people who have gmail and yahoo and refuse to try Hotmail. It is a great solution for Push email. Like I said I use PushEffect for all of accounts, but I need solution for my work email account which is Groupwise. Any ideas?
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Have you tried http://community.seven.com ? You have to register for the beta program, then try searching for "groupwise" on the forum. Looks like there is an answer, though I don't have novell to see for myself.

selytch said:
Have you tried http://community.seven.com ? You have to register for the beta program, then try searching for "groupwise" on the forum. Looks like there is an answer, though I don't have novell to see for myself.
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cool. Thanks

selytch said:
MS is working on improving the live/hotmail, they are now full of AJAX and I'm looking forward for a calendar push.
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I don't think it will be long, they recently added access to calendar, notes & task items thru the outlook connector

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IMAP IDLE and settings

I have a .mac account setup using IMAP4 protocols. However, it's asking for a send and receive schedule on the phone. Am I wrong in assuming that whenever there is a change to the IMAP server, that change is sent to the phone, i.e. new email???
I have email on the server and it doesn't get to the phone until the send and receive schedule executes. So, my question then is what is the point in IMAP?
Anyone have any experience with this?
Well from what I'm seeing it's WM...yay?
From what I've found, yeah. It's just a limitation of pocket outlook to not support/use IMAP IDLE. You still get the advantages of folders, etc stored on the server, just no idle/push like you would on a desktop client. there are 3rd party e-mail programs that do support IDLE, though I haven't tried any of them myself. Perhaps some others may have suggestions on a more fully feature IMAP client, perhaps even one that integrates well into TF3D?
Well crap.
We switched everything over to Mac a year or so ago. Getting my MobileMe account to work "properly" on the TP is becoming a PITA. Worked great with the iPhone though, DUH...
I signed into Windows Live on my phone and set up my live.com email address, and changed some of the settings. It's working very similar to an exchange account, which is what I was after anyway. I even closed the Windows Live program and it still works, so I'm assuming that its settings are server based.
Anyhoo...I have exchange email for work on the phone, and now "exchange-like" email for personal use. Anyone want to buy a MobileMe account???
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From what I've found, yeah. It's just a limitation of pocket outlook to not support/use IMAP IDLE. You still get the advantages of folders, etc stored on the server, just no idle/push like you would on a desktop client. there are 3rd party e-mail programs that do support IDLE, though I haven't tried any of them myself. Perhaps some others may have suggestions on a more fully feature IMAP client, perhaps even one that integrates well into TF3D?
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I've been using SEVEN BETA. Since it's in perpetual beta it's free. It fully integrates into TF3D, is very easy to set up, and reliable. It is the same program that Sprint and ATT use for their E-mail setup. I don't know how to add a link on here so google it.
abrigham said:
From what I've found, yeah. It's just a limitation of pocket outlook to not support/use IMAP IDLE. You still get the advantages of folders, etc stored on the server, just no idle/push like you would on a desktop client. there are 3rd party e-mail programs that do support IDLE, though I haven't tried any of them myself. Perhaps some others may have suggestions on a more fully feature IMAP client, perhaps even one that integrates well into TF3D?[/QUOT
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Push Email for HD2

Hi,
Originally back in 2000-2007 I was a Nokia and Blackberry User. Instant Emails I am very much used to, however I decided to take a break from Blackberry and right so as now everyone has one and I find it annoying! LOL!
in 2008 I got a Nokia e71, the email schedule was a crap annoying 15mins, so I decided to see if there is anything out there to speed it up!
I found emoze. This app was a lifesaver, once you got it to work ofcourse.
Now I am on a HD2 with a batter life equivalent to a snail on a motorway, (slow to move but quick to die)
I am in need for a more than 5mins schedule on my emails without the battery dying so quickly. I tried emoze on the HD2 but it does not work, it gets as far trying to add an account which then crashes.
I looked at the gmail push, problem is I have my own doman hosted email accounts I am not a fan of gmail, hotmail etc, as I am working professional and such accounts are frowned upon and not taken seriously.
Sorry for the story I thought i give you a understanding of where i am coming from etc.
Thanks.
Exactly something i am looking for too, and for exactly the same reason mentioned! i got my own domain too, so business mails are strictly on that, and hotmails good only for the "forwards"
Please help guys!
what are u guys talking about , if you need it for business , use exchange , if u're ok with google, use google sync for your gmails. Thats push email for you.
Agree, with above - MS Exchange server works like a charm!!
Emoze works on my HD2.
I've got two accounts configured on it, one is an Outlook Web Access (OWA) and the other is my own domain.
Re-try Emoze and let me know exactly what faults you are having and I'll do my best to help you.
mr3rown said:
Hi,
Originally back in 2000-2007 I was a Nokia and Blackberry User. Instant Emails I am very much used to, however I decided to take a break from Blackberry and right so as now everyone has one and I find it annoying! LOL!
in 2008 I got a Nokia e71, the email schedule was a crap annoying 15mins, so I decided to see if there is anything out there to speed it up!
I found emoze. This app was a lifesaver, once you got it to work ofcourse.
Now I am on a HD2 with a batter life equivalent to a snail on a motorway, (slow to move but quick to die)
I am in need for a more than 5mins schedule on my emails without the battery dying so quickly. I tried emoze on the HD2 but it does not work, it gets as far trying to add an account which then crashes.
I looked at the gmail push, problem is I have my own doman hosted email accounts I am not a fan of gmail, hotmail etc, as I am working professional and such accounts are frowned upon and not taken seriously.
Sorry for the story I thought i give you a understanding of where i am coming from etc.
Thanks.
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hi there....another app that as good as emoze (even better for me then emoze) is seven .....you should try it bro.
here is the like for it: http://www.seven.com/
thought it is still in beta, but it work great!
mail2web offer an exchange based email service. I've been using it for a year with no problems
yeah.. use seven
best push email for me, been using it since I was still using Eten M600
Hi guys,
Exchange
you make it sound like going out buying a dedicated server, install exchange and setup my emails (4 accounts in total) is a walk in the park.
dont get me wrong i do this stuff for a living, but my business has never had the need for an exchange server. and wont for a long time. so thats not an option.
emoze
i will try it again and see how it goes.
seven
never liked it much, as emoze was easier for me and suited my needs, even got a pro license as well.
mr3rown said:
Hi guys,
Exchange
you make it sound like going out buying a dedicated server, install exchange and setup my emails (4 accounts in total) is a walk in the park.
dont get me wrong i do this stuff for a living, but my business has never had the need for an exchange server. and wont for a long time. so thats not an option.
emoze
i will try it again and see how it goes.
seven
never liked it much, as emoze was easier for me and suited my needs, even got a pro license as well.
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Hi there,
im not quite sure if emoze works fine with the HD2, give it a try and tell us
emoze crashes!
Hi no emoze does not work on the HD2.
- it crashes on the part where you need to add the account settings for your pop3 server.
- also you get the Microsoft reporting error screen
- i remember one i could edit the settings but for some reason i get no joy this time.
gonna give seven a try.
seven
Seven also was a waste of time.
Not sure what to do next, gonna pm the guy that said he got emoze to work.
Do you not use Gmail because how the email address looks to clients or for security purposes?
If it's the first one, Gmail offers hosted email services for custom domain names. So you use their service and all the benefits that come with it but it would be [email protected].
seven: simply the best!
alexleon said:
seven: simply the best!
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+1................
Seven works awesome for me. Instant push mail.. I use it with Lotus Notes and its the best push mail connector service I have used. I have tried Emoze and mail2web services but like the seven best.
@mr3rown:
You should try Google's business package where they will host the email service for your domain name.
Most of the ISPs will host your domain email on their exchange servers and its cheap you never have to worry about your own servers and you can have as many emails as possible.
Google Hosted Emails
Right,
i took a look at the google hosted email, and volia, i have updated all my mx records and cnames etc, working fine on my clients, just now need to start setting it up on my HD2.
will post back with results.
Apologies if this is not what you guys are looking for but for push mail, I have 3 accounts on servers supporting imap-idle and I use Flexmail to check mail so I get instant notifications when mails come in and it doesn't poll the server in x-mins thus no battery drain.
I've been using this guy's homebrew solution without any problems. http://www.gudensoft.com/emailscheduler/
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I've been using this guy's homebrew solution without any problems.
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does this allow the use of imap idle (push) on outlook mobile?

multiple IMAP

I'm a Mogul user looking to switch to the Hero.
Two questions:
1) Does android support multiple IMAP accounts?
2) If so, does it support push/idle? Can I set one account up to check, and one to stay online (for push)?
Not opposed to third party apps, if needed.
Thanks!
I have two IMAP accounts on mine, no problem there.
You can set indepent intervals to check, I don't think actual push is an option, but you could have it check every 5 minutes I think.
agreed, multiple IMAP is fine, but i have found no way of using IMAP idle to do push either. I just don't think it supports it.
Also, if your IMAP requires you to set the IMAP path, you may run into issues as well.
Thanks, I think I'll give android a try then. Looks like K9mail might be able to do push....either of you tried that?
I had a look, but visually I didn't like it. I have no issue with stock mail so I use that...
i just route my email through Gmail now. i only log into my server to clear it out once in a while.
Which reminds me, it's up for renewal....dammit, more money to pay out this month

[Q] Touchwiz email not deleting messages?

Since the Touchwiz update, my two IMAP email accounts refuse to delete emails on the server. The messages appear deleted, but on refresh they reappear.
The pre-touch-wiz email client worked fine.
Anyone else experiencing this? Know of a fix?
D.
Had the same problem with the stock email client on my Charge. Wound up going with K-9 on the phone and stuck with that on the GTab as well; never even thought to try the stock email. Last time I checked for the Charge there wasn't a fix; be interested in finding out if there is one for the GTab.
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millemots said:
Had the same problem with the stock email client on my Charge. Wound up going with K-9 on the phone and stuck with that on the GTab as well; never even thought to try the stock email. Last time I checked for the Charge there wasn't a fix; be interested in finding out if there is one for the GTab.
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I tried K-9, and while there are some things it does well, the flaws outweigh the strengths. In addition to my two IMAP accounts, I have an Exchange account from my day job that I need to monitor. K-9 doesn't do exchange well at all. The K-9interface is optimized for small (phone) screens, not tablets. I wanted it to work for me, but it doesn't.
I like the interface on the TW email client. I just can't believe such a basic flaw as not deleting mail on the server got past the developers--and I'm surprised it isn't causing more uproar.
This is really sad. The GTab 10.1 is the first Android tablet with the potential to take on the iPad, but it won't evenpass the giggle test with bugs like this. AAAARGH!
D.
dancase said:
I tried K-9, and while there are some things it does well, the flaws outweigh the strengths. In addition to my two IMAP accounts, I have an Exchange account from my day job that I need to monitor. K-9 doesn't do exchange well at all. The K-9interface is optimized for small (phone) screens, not tablets. I wanted it to work for me, but it doesn't.
I like the interface on the TW email client. I just can't believe such a basic flaw as not deleting mail on the server got past the developers--and I'm surprised it isn't causing more uproar.
This is really sad. The GTab 10.1 is the first Android tablet with the potential to take on the iPad, but it won't evenpass the giggle test with bugs like this. AAAARGH!
D.
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Agreed that k9 isn't the greatest. Also that the issue with the stock client is beyond ridiculous. I looked into Touchdown, but didn't go with it (can't remember why). That one is supposed to have great Exchange support; not sure about IMAP though.
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Touchwiz IMAP issue--update
To recap the problem: After the recent TouchWiz update, the native email client no longer deletes IMAP email on the server. Email appears to delete, but on refresh reappears.
I tried Samsung's twitter support yesterday, looking for answers on this problem. I finally received an honest but not terribly helpful response:
"I've tested this on our Tab here and it does that too. Unfortunately there' s no way to change that. I believe it depends on which email client you have."​
I reminded her that there's only one email client on the stock GT10.1, the update broke it, and she just confirmed it as a bonifide issue. Response:
"I have reported this to our product specialists. Unfortunately, I don't have any info pertaining to a fix, I apologize."​
When I asked if there was anyone I could expedite this with, she suggested I try the Android market and use a different email client. I'd do that cheerfully if there were an email app in the market that's optimized for tablet interface instead of phone screens.
Overall, not a satisfying experience. I understand that the support tweeps can only do so much, but it didn't leave me confident that anything will change in the reasonable future.
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I hate to say it, but it left me almost wishing I'd bought an iPad. As much as I hate the Apple agenda of controlling the world and thinking on behalf of the mindless drones it controls, at least the (employer-owned) iPhone I have does email reliably and can connect me to my Juniper remote access VPN. At this point, the GT 10.1 can't do either for me.
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D.
I had the same problem and removing the application data (Settings->Applications-> go to the gmail app) fixed the problem for me for now.
The app will have to re-sync all the emails after but now it deletes and marks messages as read correctly.
weasal said:
I had the same problem and removing the application data (Settings->Applications-> go to the gmail app) fixed the problem for me for now.
The app will have to re-sync all the emails after but now it deletes and marks messages as read correctly.
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One of the first things I tried. Didn't work for me--but then again, I didn't try it with gmail, only with the two IMAP accounts I use daily.
I finally broke down, rooted the thing, and flashed it with the original release ROM. All working fine. The only thing I lost was some of Samsung's crapware and of course the less-than-impressive TouchWiz interface. Not a huge loss, IMO.
Lesson learned: Beware of manufacturers bearing gifts and upgrades.
D.

[Q] How to setup push mail?

I have about 6-7 emails. I've setup gmail accounts easily, and now I need to setup other domains like net, .com.
I've heard about some Exchange option but have no idea how to setup that where to get it etc?
If I setup that many emails will battery life be a LOT shorter? I had Blackberry and there this wasn't a problem.
Thanks
Anyone?
nixtip said:
I have about 6-7 emails. I've setup gmail accounts easily, and now I need to setup other domains like net, .com.
I've heard about some Exchange option but have no idea how to setup that where to get it etc?
If I setup that many emails will battery life be a LOT shorter? I had Blackberry and there this wasn't a problem.
Thanks
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try emoze from the market its really nice

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