IMAP IDLE and settings - Touch Pro CDMA

I have a .mac account setup using IMAP4 protocols. However, it's asking for a send and receive schedule on the phone. Am I wrong in assuming that whenever there is a change to the IMAP server, that change is sent to the phone, i.e. new email???
I have email on the server and it doesn't get to the phone until the send and receive schedule executes. So, my question then is what is the point in IMAP?
Anyone have any experience with this?

Well from what I'm seeing it's WM...yay?

From what I've found, yeah. It's just a limitation of pocket outlook to not support/use IMAP IDLE. You still get the advantages of folders, etc stored on the server, just no idle/push like you would on a desktop client. there are 3rd party e-mail programs that do support IDLE, though I haven't tried any of them myself. Perhaps some others may have suggestions on a more fully feature IMAP client, perhaps even one that integrates well into TF3D?

Well crap.
We switched everything over to Mac a year or so ago. Getting my MobileMe account to work "properly" on the TP is becoming a PITA. Worked great with the iPhone though, DUH...
I signed into Windows Live on my phone and set up my live.com email address, and changed some of the settings. It's working very similar to an exchange account, which is what I was after anyway. I even closed the Windows Live program and it still works, so I'm assuming that its settings are server based.
Anyhoo...I have exchange email for work on the phone, and now "exchange-like" email for personal use. Anyone want to buy a MobileMe account???

abrigham said:
From what I've found, yeah. It's just a limitation of pocket outlook to not support/use IMAP IDLE. You still get the advantages of folders, etc stored on the server, just no idle/push like you would on a desktop client. there are 3rd party e-mail programs that do support IDLE, though I haven't tried any of them myself. Perhaps some others may have suggestions on a more fully feature IMAP client, perhaps even one that integrates well into TF3D?
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I've been using SEVEN BETA. Since it's in perpetual beta it's free. It fully integrates into TF3D, is very easy to set up, and reliable. It is the same program that Sprint and ATT use for their E-mail setup. I don't know how to add a link on here so google it.

abrigham said:
From what I've found, yeah. It's just a limitation of pocket outlook to not support/use IMAP IDLE. You still get the advantages of folders, etc stored on the server, just no idle/push like you would on a desktop client. there are 3rd party e-mail programs that do support IDLE, though I haven't tried any of them myself. Perhaps some others may have suggestions on a more fully feature IMAP client, perhaps even one that integrates well into TF3D?[/QUOT
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Push Mail

I have a friend at work thats willing to provide me one of his extra exchange server liscenses, have any of you tried this out in a home environment? If so what where the results you got? Does it work well is it meh etc.
benitojuarez said:
I have a friend at work thats willing to provide me one of his extra exchange server liscenses, have any of you tried this out in a home environment? If so what where the results you got? Does it work well is it meh etc.
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lol have it tried out it does work after many hours of setting it up but i realized it wasnt worth getting junk mail instantly so i canned it
benitojuarez said:
I have a friend at work thats willing to provide me one of his extra exchange server liscenses, have any of you tried this out in a home environment? If so what where the results you got? Does it work well is it meh etc.
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I run an exchange server out of my house and love it works great
Push required full time data connection. I don't use it because of that. I use 30 minutes poll on imap and love results.
eh Activesync doesnt use that much bandwidth actually. Its very minimal useage as it lets the connection sit idle for most of the time
I'm sure it doesn't. The problem is that the data connection has to remain live.
I poll every 30 minutes, and then 30 sec later, my connection drops.
right its live but its idle so it uses little or no battery anyway and unless you specifically make sure it disconnects the data conn it most likely will remain live as well just idle the same as push would do for you
A hotmail/live.com account is free and will get you push email.... Lots easier than setting up and managing an exchange server at your house.
derekd said:
A hotmail/live.com account is free and will get you push email.... Lots easier than setting up and managing an exchange server at your house.
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how dare you suggest i drop gmail for hotmail.
I thought push was supposed to be really easy on the battery, whats all this about constant connections?
I use it and love it. I never have to worry about backing up my contacts. Just flash new ROM and put in IP Addy of server/UsernameW and I'm good to go.
I however do notice a drain on battery if you leave it set to default "as arrives" Set mine to 30 min. as well.
Using hotmail is a good idea, but I have used the same hotmail account for YEARS and that is where I get all my junk spam. Would eat up my data connection and battery if I used that.
Is Blackberry Connect free? I've never tried. Wanna use it for my Work email (which is Groupwise - yes I know). I use PushEffect by Qorefunctions for all my other email accounts?
benitojuarez said:
how dare you suggest i drop gmail for hotmail.
I thought push was supposed to be really easy on the battery, whats all this about constant connections?
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I am really surprised not that many people use live/hotmail on there ppc. I love google/hate M$ but... When it comes to mobile product M$ beats G.
Live/Hotmail (rare link ! http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/mobile/wl/download-en-us.mspx) is REALLY convenient. With synchronization schedule "as items arrive" I still have 50-70% battery life left at the end of the day (with no2chem's rom). Did not notice much difference compared to manual sync.
Plus, you get contacts synchronization - somewhat less "pushy" - not sure, how often it syncs, but works great too. BTW, make sure to backup you contacts before installing the WLWM! MS is working on improving the live/hotmail, they are now full of AJAX and I'm looking forward for a calendar push.
With gmail trying to sync contacts is major PIA, even using 3-rd party software (and I tried many!).
If you are still unconvinced to try live/hotmail, sign up for SEVEN (http://community.seven.com/main.php) (free!)
it works as an intermediate between various POP/IMAP providers, making them work like push email - not sure how but it works. I was using it for gmail/my server's IMAP but decided to go with hotmail (they had frequent server outages this summer, I've heard they were fixing them...).
In the end, you definitely do not need blackberry or setting up home exchange (with Exchange or Kerio Mail Server) to have real time push email on the PPC!
Using SBS 2008 in the home, with it's POP connector dumping all my wanted pop accounts to my exchange mail box AND PUSh this is the best though as a MVP the SBS was free except the hardware to run it (requires 64 bit /4G's) not a good solution unless your in my line of work - PUSH was the simplist thing to setup and configure ActiveSync btw is on demand and have had no issues with call/battery
selytch said:
I am really surprised not that many people use live/hotmail on there ppc. I love google/hate M$ but... When it comes to mobile product M$ beats G.
Live/Hotmail (rare link ! http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/mobile/wl/download-en-us.mspx) is REALLY convenient. With synchronization schedule "as items arrive" I still have 50-70% battery life left at the end of the day (with no2chem's rom). Did not notice much difference compared to manual sync.
Plus, you get contacts synchronization - somewhat less "pushy" - not sure, how often it syncs, but works great too. BTW, make sure to backup you contacts before installing the WLWM! MS is working on improving the live/hotmail, they are now full of AJAX and I'm looking forward for a calendar push.
With gmail trying to sync contacts is major PIA, even using 3-rd party software (and I tried many!).
If you are still unconvinced to try live/hotmail, sign up for SEVEN (http://community.seven.com/main.php) (free!)
it works as an intermediate between various POP/IMAP providers, making them work like push email - not sure how but it works. I was using it for gmail/my server's IMAP but decided to go with hotmail (they had frequent server outages this summer, I've heard they were fixing them...).
In the end, you definitely do not need blackberry or setting up home exchange (with Exchange or Kerio Mail Server) to have real time push email on the PPC!
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hotmail does work really well. I know alot of people who have gmail and yahoo and refuse to try Hotmail. It is a great solution for Push email. Like I said I use PushEffect for all of accounts, but I need solution for my work email account which is Groupwise. Any ideas?
shaun0207 said:
hotmail does work really well. I know alot of people who have gmail and yahoo and refuse to try Hotmail. It is a great solution for Push email. Like I said I use PushEffect for all of accounts, but I need solution for my work email account which is Groupwise. Any ideas?
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Have you tried http://community.seven.com ? You have to register for the beta program, then try searching for "groupwise" on the forum. Looks like there is an answer, though I don't have novell to see for myself.
selytch said:
Have you tried http://community.seven.com ? You have to register for the beta program, then try searching for "groupwise" on the forum. Looks like there is an answer, though I don't have novell to see for myself.
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cool. Thanks
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MS is working on improving the live/hotmail, they are now full of AJAX and I'm looking forward for a calendar push.
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I don't think it will be long, they recently added access to calendar, notes & task items thru the outlook connector

multiple IMAP

I'm a Mogul user looking to switch to the Hero.
Two questions:
1) Does android support multiple IMAP accounts?
2) If so, does it support push/idle? Can I set one account up to check, and one to stay online (for push)?
Not opposed to third party apps, if needed.
Thanks!
I have two IMAP accounts on mine, no problem there.
You can set indepent intervals to check, I don't think actual push is an option, but you could have it check every 5 minutes I think.
agreed, multiple IMAP is fine, but i have found no way of using IMAP idle to do push either. I just don't think it supports it.
Also, if your IMAP requires you to set the IMAP path, you may run into issues as well.
Thanks, I think I'll give android a try then. Looks like K9mail might be able to do push....either of you tried that?
I had a look, but visually I didn't like it. I have no issue with stock mail so I use that...
i just route my email through Gmail now. i only log into my server to clear it out once in a while.
Which reminds me, it's up for renewal....dammit, more money to pay out this month

[Q] How to delete IMAP emails from SGSII?

Hi,
I am trying to delete emails from my IMAP account an my SGSII (Samsung stock emailing programm).
Now my problem is that all emails I delete once just reappear the next time I sync with my IMAP account. So its simply impossible to delete emails on my phone.
This problem also exists on the GalaxyTab as far as I know.
Hotmail works fine(but hotmail doesnt use IMAP as far as I know).
One simple solution would be to just not use the samsung emailing program. I tried K9 today, but I kinda dont like the fact that it doesnt come with an widget. I also like the stock program better.
Any clue what I am doing wrong?
its also not possible to open most attachments directly from inside the emailing application(.pdf,.jpg etc.).
It does work occationally but must of the time it doesnt.
Solved:
Not using Polaris Office did the trick for me.
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How did you resolve the IMAP email problem? I'm experiencing the same behaviour. Gmail IMAP works fine (with the stock email client, not the stock Gmail client). However, my work email which is IMAP doesn't work correctly.
I simply stopped using the stock program.
And now I kinda started to love K9.
But K9 didn't get along with my hotmail account(it has no IMAP;always redownloaded old emails;I had a data usage of 200mb in one day^^) so I started to auto. redirect all my mails to gmail. That works flawless til now.
oh man, same here!
I use the same settings on Nexus One, V880 or even Ipod Touch, both works except SG2! any clue yet?
No I didnt find no solution.
I am happy with K9 now .
Greets.
Apparently using POP instead of IMAP, you have the option to delete from the server... Of course IMAP is supposed to do this anyway, but worth considering POP - especially if the other advantages of IMAP are of no interest to you.
Personally, folder synchronisation means nothing if it can't even sync deleted emails...
I tried to chase this up with Samsung support, but of course they're useless... It's obviously a software bug, but they suggested a reflash and then trip to the service centre if that doesn't fix it...
We all know a trip to the service centre will certainly not fix it if a reflash wont...
Curiously, I've got a VHA ROM on my phone, and wondering what everyone else has, presuming it might be an issue in the branded ROM, but not in the generic ROM...
I'm sure I'm not the only one who cares, but I did a little bit of research, and although it doesn't seem to help, there's setting the IMAP path prefix (usually 'INBOX'), which should direct deleted emails into INBOX.Trash as opposed to the android Trash folder, and therefore delete them off the server.
Sadly, trying 20 variations, I still couldn't get it to work... but it might work with your email provider (just didn't with mine)
If all else fails, and you really want to use the Samsung email app (which I do, since K9 does not have activesync Exchange support - only the other one, which doesn't help me), instead of deleting emails, just go: Menu/Move to Folder/INBOX.Trash - this is the same as what Delete should be doing...
Hope that helps somewhat...
same issue: any solution found yet?

Not able to set up my corporate email due to table's limitations..

I was not able to configure my work email on my prime. the work server requires davice and storage encription and while this is not a problem with the tablet since it can be encrypted. my problem is that my work email server also requires to become remote device administrator and the ability to wipe my data remotly and that is a feature thet prime does not support.
is there a work around this issue? or is it the fact that this table is only wi-fi and therefore there would be no real way to remote wipe unless is on some kind of wi-fi?
is this a PRIME issue specifically or an Android issue? have you had this successfully setup on another android device.
i personally use Touchdown for my corporate email. based on the features i've read, it supports remote wiping, but doesn't mention remote administration.
http://www.nitrodesk.com/dk_touchdownFeatures.aspx
link to market (30-day trial):
https://market.android.com/details?...xLDEsImNvbS5uaXRyb2Rlc2suaG9uZXkubml0cm9pZCJd
I have a samsung galaxy phone and that works fine with my email. However I went to best buy and I tried to setup my email on two diferent tablets and i noticed that the one table that allows remote wipe would work fine but the asus which it does not support remote control or wipe would failed with a message stating that there are some security server that my exchange requires that are not supported by that android device.
We use Lotus Notes, IBM released what they call Lotus Traveler for Android and iOS and both require a security admin enabled that can wipe the devices. I installed in on both my phone (Amaze) & Prime with no problems. You may need to enable the pin code or security code first.
can you sync calendar with touchtown?
lucent6408d said:
can you sync calendar with touchtown?
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everything. calender, contacts, mail. it's a very serious and very impressive application. my issue with the stock email application is that my inbox is broken down into mutliple folders. the stock email can't view mail coming into those various folders (i have rules). on the stock email app i'd have to change to that folder.
touchdown shows all mail from all folders in one screen. you can select which folders to sync as well. it has out of office internal and externals that you can setup.
you get a 30-day trial so just give it a shot. the full license is $20.
oh man that sounds great, i guess is time for me to go back to Best buy and pickup my Prime again. I was so upset over this email crap that I returned it just a few hours after getting it.
thanks for the info.
lucent6408d said:
oh man that sounds great, i guess is time for me to go back to Best buy and pickup my Prime again. I was so upset over this email crap that I returned it just a few hours after getting it.
thanks for the info.
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well i'm not saying that the touchdown will fix your issues with the prime. i'm just saying that the touchdown app is a good one to try. our email service provider is usa.net running exchange 2007 and the configuration is fairly quick.

[Q] Email - POP3 Server Issue (Deleting from Server)

Hi. Is there a known glitch with the Android Email App where it takes emails off the server when in POP3 configuration, even when you have the "Don't Delete From Server" option on "Never"? I'm experiencing this problem. Is there a fix?
Thanks,
-Adam
IIRC "Don't delete from server" is a traditional client config setting that controls whether or not the email is deleted at the time it is polled by the POP client. It does not necessarily control whether or not the client later reaches out and tells the server to delete an arbitary message, and I think this ambiguity is the issue.
My guess is Android is deleting the message from the server when it's deleted from the phone. See the last few posts here.
The workaround I see folks using is to set the "last N days" setting low and letting them fall off the phone's view rather than deleting them.
I haven't used POPn in a while so input welcomed from more knowledgeable folks.
fratermus said:
My guess is Android is deleting the message from the server when it's deleted from the phone. See the last few posts here.
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It takes an email off the server as soon as one's delivered (into the inbox). I'll check out the link. Thanks.
adam79 said:
It takes an email off the server as soon as one's delivered (into the inbox). I'll check out the link. Thanks.
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I just read through the link. I took the advice of setting up the email client on my computer to leave mail on the server, but it still gets removed when I receive it on my phone.. maybe it's time to call T-Mobile.
But the desktop client leaves it on the server? If so, sounds like an Android problem and I figure TMO will be useless. Hopefully someone else jumps in to clue us in. I don't have a pop+webmail account handy to use for testing (and I'm running CM7).
Are you running the stock T-mobile ROM that came with the phone? Would it be acceptable to try some other (free) POP3 client from the android market?
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But the desktop client leaves it on the server?
Are you running the stock T-mobile ROM that came with the phone? Would it be acceptable to try some other (free) POP3 client from the android market?
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When I receive the email on my desktop, I can't get it on my phone.. even though I have it set to keep the messages on the server. This is weird!
I know that POP3 is kind of outdated and IMAP is the new popular standard. I'd switch it over to IMAP, but I don't like how when I delete messages from the Inbox, they reappear the next time I check my email.
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Are you running the stock T-mobile ROM that came with the phone? Would it be acceptable to try some other (free) POP3 client from the android market?
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Yeah, I'm running the stock ROM. What POP3 Client would you recommend from the market?
Thanks,
-Adam
Actually, I think the weirdness is on the server, since the desktop client won't leave them there either. If you share who the mail provider is someone might chime in with info or a fix.
Dunno any 3rd party pop3 apps, as I don't use them.

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