It seems like if you choose to flash the radio that you may have better/worse performance than you currently have. I am happy with my radio performance but want to flash some of these fun roms.
If I choose to flash a rom how do you choose not to install the radio?
I keep searching but my search terms are short and it is confusing google.
I flashed my rom but not my radio. My buddy here also did the same.
jamespaulritter said:
I flashed my rom but not my radio. My buddy here also did the same.
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I could have told him that it was possible. What he want's to know is how. I remember seeing it somewhere in the WIKI or FAQ's but don't remember exactly where. I would post the link if I did. Sorry.
Thanks, Ill do some more searching. I think I recall having to remove a portion of the RUU or something. Ill go check it out.
Most of the ROMs I've seen do not include a radio (atleast the 2 I've used).
If you know your current radio version, you can always flash the new ROM, then flash your radio. There's a thread here that has all of the available radios you can download.
I have tried to do some searching for you, but really can't remember where I had read this. I do remember, that some ROM's have Radio's included, Some do not, Some have many apps included, Some are very light with very basic apps included. When you read up on a specific ROM for your device, the details of what is included is usually specified.
I think it's safe to say that over 99% of cooked ROMs are without radios. Every time you flash a radio ROM, it's an extra risk you're taking, and chefs always want to mitigate such risks.
I just got done flashing my first rom to my Fuze. I am stoked. Thanks for the help. This was far less painful than flashing my g3 and g4 wizards.
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Sorry for being a noob...
I want to downgrade to the latest stock Verizon radio and rom.
What are the version numbers, so I can download them from PPCGeeks
Anything else i need to do?
First, you have my permission. (just kidding)
Second, I think the latest Sprint rom was 2.17 with 2.09 before that.
With PPCGeeks site still down, you might have to try searching for them within XDA. Are you looking for custom or stock 2.17 rom(s)?
Sorry, I should have specified... I'm a Verizon Wireless user.
Thats why I created my own thread, I saw a few others, but I think they were all Sprint folks.
I would like to go back to the most recent, stock, ROM and Radio
PPCGeeks FTP still available
the ftp at ppcgeeks is still available, just the board is down. not sure about the versions on Verizon, i'm on Sprint myself.
Although the ftp for PPCGeeks may be up, you wont be able to browse any threads to find information relating to the rom unless you already know what you are looking for and who made it (if a custom rom).
I hate to ask but have you search here at XDA for a Verizon rom to suit your needs?
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Although the ftp for PPCGeeks may be up, you wont be able to browse any threads to find information relating to the rom unless you already know what you are looking for and who made it (if a custom rom).
I hate to ask but have you search here at XDA for a Verizon rom to suit your needs?
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Unfortunately, no I havent... if I could have my "ideal ROM", it would be all stock, with only GPS and Rev. A enabled. I dont want any other changes
Check out FallingAngel12's rom and GhnatgoSplat's rom as well. I think one of them is a Verizon rom. Search under "Verizon 3.16" or just "Verizon" and you should pull up some related rom threads...
Hey guys, i have read all of the guides and alot on the forums, i am also a member at TX and Da_Gs blackjack site so i have flashed new ROMs to the Blackjack hundreds of times. I feel pretty good about flashing my ATT 8525 with a cooked ROM but, I just want to verify something..........
(1) I should flash to the HardSPL first right? If i follow the guide it looks easy.
(2) I have on my 8525 the 1.54 radio and it works really well in my area, so after the HardSPL then flash the rom then i should still have the 1.54 radio? Is that right? it works just like on the Blackjack....the radio and boot and ROM are all separate installs?
I know some ROMs have all 3 together but the ROM i like, K's WM6.0 FINAL
does not have the SPL or radio.
Buckoni said:
Hey guys, i have read all of the guides and alot on the forums, i am also a member at TX and Da_Gs blackjack site so i have flashed new ROMs to the Blackjack hundreds of times. I feel pretty good about flashing my ATT 8525 with a cooked ROM but, I just want to verify something..........
(1) I should flash to the HardSPL first right? If i follow the guide it looks easy.
(2) I have on my 8525 the 1.54 radio and it works really well in my area, so after the HardSPL then flash the rom then i should still have the 1.54 radio? Is that right? it works just like on the Blackjack....the radio and boot and ROM are all separate installs?
I know some ROMs have all 3 together but the ROM i like, K's WM6.0 FINAL
does not have the SPL or radio.
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1) It is very easy....and definalty do it BEFORE anything else
2) the radio version currently on your hermes will stay there yes, unless you flash a ROM which contains a radio image. Nearly ALL the cooked WM6 versions are OS only.
Hey Thanks MrVanx! Thats all i neede to know! I will post afterwards to let ya'll know how it went.
It's pretty simple really once you know...
Run SIM & SID unlock, run Hard SPL v7, then click the RUU Wrapper file and install the required rom!
Easy!
Oh and the guide on Vanx's site is handy too!
Nice to see someone that read forum and wiki, and then ask a question.
hey guys everything went great! I have also installed the Cube to this ROM and it works great but, i really don't see it as being very useful as it is quicker to use the phone as it came. I do like how i can look through the contacts and pie with my fingers instead of the sylus but, thats about it.
I will try as many different ROMs as i can get ahold of and i might even down load one of the kitchens and start to roll my own,LOL! this is really changing what i do with my spare time! I used to hotrod my motorcycle or the computer or even my PSP but this is alot more fun!
Thank You to all the people here and over at TXceaser and Da_Gs web site!
You have really been a great bunch to learn from!
Buckoni
Hi guys,
I was wondering if anybody could recommend me a simple, clean stock-like custom ROM without unnecessary programs and things installed. The primary reason for me wanting to flash to a custom ROM is for the considerable performance gain I keep reading about.
I have an Australian-bought unbranded HTC Touch Pro (raph100).
Thanks in advance,
Tim
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Hi guys,
I was wondering if anybody could recommend me a simple, clean stock-like custom ROM without unnecessary programs and things installed. The primary reason for me wanting to flash to a custom ROM is for the considerable performance gain I keep reading about.
I have an Australian-bought unbranded HTC Touch Pro (raph100).
Thanks in advance,
Tim
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Tim,
Since this will be closed very quickly by mods....read in this section for a lite roms...the cooks put in the heading if they make lite Roms. Click on the rom and read the first few pages and it will tell you what is included in it...some examples are Da G and NATF's. No one knows what "unnecessary programs and things installed" is because it is different for each person.
I would go with this one. Actually, I am. It has ZERO bloatware in it and is very fast.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=441109
I use the Optus stock ROM w/ 1.08.25.20M1 Radio. It's fantastic...
ROM link: http://210.64.124.194/download/RUU_...d_Raphael_CRC_52.33.25.17_1.02.25.19_Ship.exe
-Mc
Thanks for the suggestions guys. The Optus stock ROM is actually the one that came with my device originally since this is an Australian TP. If you don't think that any considerable performance gain can be had by installing a cooked ROM then I may as well stick with this. Thanks anyway
Tim
(PS. I'm new here, so I don't quite understand why this thread will be quickly closed by mods... sorry
You can flash any rom you want since most don't include a radio.
I use Da_G's Roms because they don't include ANYTHING. The ROM is a very basic WM6.1 rom with all of the latest drivers for the best performance. All programs outside of the standard windows apps are separate downloads which can be installed as you see fit.
This is nice because you get to see what a BASIC Windows Mobile environment is and what the phone runs like without all the extra HTC extras. It also gives a very good starting point to customize the phone the way YOU want.
The good thing is that because YOU install all the extras manually... you can also uninstall them in the event a newer version comes out.
There are other good ROMs too... but most come with a "standard" set of programs, most of which I don't ever use or want. I like Da_G's because I can be in control of what is on my phone.
My 2 cents.
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(PS. I'm new here, so I don't quite understand why this thread will be quickly closed by mods... sorry
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so? new or not, it would make sense to read the wiki first. i think they even put sometihng in to tell u to read the wiki after signing up (though i'm not 100% about that), but either way, you should try doign some reading before posting. it can seem liek a lot to read, but if u want to make improvements to ur phoen, then take some time to invest in it.
1. are roms basically firmware upgrades?
2. how do you benefit from having an upgraded/updated rom?
3. i was reading for the Blackstone and Diamond roms you need to unlock your phone, how are the blackstone and diamond roms different to the HardSPL roms?
4. all my contacts/emails/appointments are synced though an exchange server, so i take it i dont need to back up? i dont have anything else installed on it.
5. also i noticed my phone is windows mobile 6.1 are these roms going to conflict with windows mobile 6.5 if i decide to upgrade?
thanks!
EDIT: after doing some reading i found these 2 links to 6.5+rom i think.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=517296
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=474406
now i have a sixth question: what are the differences between the KITCHEN and ENERGYROM versions? they look a little different but are there big changes on the backend?
Some things to understand:
* A ROM is a replacement firmware. The ones you'll find here are, by and large, custom-created ROMs. The people who "cook" (create) them are called "chefs."
* A kitchen isn't a ROM at all. It's an environment for creating one. The chefs use them, and a few very valuable members of this community provide the kitchens that are used as starting points by most chefs. Da_G's kitchen is frequently used; he's gone to some pains to make the cooking experience fairly straightforward for beginners, and there's lots of discussion in his thread about ways for more ambitious and knowledgeable chefs to enhance it.
* EnergyROM, which you mention, is one of the more popular ROMs here. The chef maintains a few different versions of it as well.
* In order to flash a non-official ROM, meaning anything created by a chef here, you'll need to first flash HARDSPL. The flash will fail otherwise.
* Most/all ROMs on this forum are for GSM Raphael-series phones -- Such as the AT&T Fuze and T-Mobile Touch Pro. Attempting to flash these ROMs on a CDMA phone, like the ones from Verizon and Sprint, won't work and could brick your phone.
* As far as benefit of a customized ROM -- depends on the ROM. Every chef does things differently. You'll have to read through forums and try various ROMs to decide what you'll like. In general, you'll benefit from speedier and more updated drivers and programs than you'll find in the stock ROMs. Also, many ROMs here are now using Windows Mobile 6.5, which isn't yet released formally to the public. Some chefs really work on the bleeding edge, and may be able to bring you new ultra-new enhancements, but at the risk of instability or incompatiblity. Beyond that, there can be a world of different from one ROM to another in configuration and included packages. Play around for a while.
* The wiki is a great source. It covers what I've said above, and much more. Please keep in mind that it's considered polite to search through the forums and read the wiki before asking questions. No one wants to clutter up the forum more than we need to.
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1. are roms basically firmware upgrades?
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In a way, yes. Picture your device has having multiple ROM regions, Bootloader (BIOS), Radio, Operating System.
You can apply changes (flash) to one, multiple, or all of these regions. Usually, ROM is often referred to as the Operating System & applications portion.
2. how do you benefit from having an upgraded/updated rom?
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It depends; for example, updating the Radio may improve your overall transmission/reception. Updating the Operating System/Application often improves the performance of your device.
Manufacturer (stock ROM's) will usually be relatively stable and more conservative. Custom ROM's will offer newer versions of applications but they may not be as stable - it depends on the skill of the chef preparing the ROM.
3. i was reading for the Blackstone and Diamond roms you need to unlock your phone, how are the blackstone and diamond roms different to the HardSPL roms?
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In most (if not all) cases, you will need to unlock your device. This usually involves applying the HardSPL package specific to your device. In some cases, it may be necessary for you to unlock your SIM.
When you become very experienced, you can go one step further and perform a full security unlock which will permit you to apply Radio stacks from different devices - this is very advanced and you need to ensure that you have done all due diligence before flashing a Radio from a different device.
4. all my contacts/emails/appointments are synced though an exchange server, so i take it i dont need to back up? i dont have anything else installed on it.
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Correct, you simply need to establish a profile in ActiveSync ... the rest should happen automagically. If you get into the addiction of flashing ROMs, it may be necessary for you to delete your existing ActiveSync profile.
5. also i noticed my phone is windows mobile 6.1 are these roms going to conflict with windows mobile 6.5 if i decide to upgrade?
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When you flash a ROM to your device, it will erase/overwrite the existing firmware code.
now i have a sixth question: what are the differences between the KITCHEN and ENERGYROM versions? they look a little different but are there big changes on the backend?
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A ROM is typically the end product that a kitchen produces. Chefs use the kitchen to prepare (cook) a ROM which is then made available here.
HTH,
sweet thanks guys, do they have a ROM bundle that will flash the radio and the OS? i take it the radio is gps/wifi/gsm/bluetooth?
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sweet thanks guys, do they have a ROM bundle that will flash the radio and the OS? i take it the radio is gps/wifi/gsm/bluetooth?
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Most stock shipped ROMs have the radio included but cooked ROMs do not. If you flash a cooked ROM you will still have the radio from your previous ROM unless you flash a new radio. The radio controlls your frequency GSM bands it has nothing to do with bluetooth or wifi.
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Most stock shipped ROMs have the radio included but cooked ROMs do not. If you flash a cooked ROM you will still have the radio from your previous ROM unless you flash a new radio. The radio controlls your frequency GSM bands it has nothing to do with bluetooth or wifi.
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is it suggested upgrading the radio rom? i have cingular if thats any help.. so bluetooth/wifi/gps dont need any upgrades? or at least not suggested?
DirtAddsHP said:
is it suggested upgrading the radio rom? i have cingular if thats any help.. so bluetooth/wifi/gps dont need any upgrades? or at least not suggested?
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In my own experience the ROM I have in my signature and the radio I have in my signature works flawlessly for me. The strength and functionality of your Radio will depend on your geographical location. In other words a Radio that works good for someone in New York may not work so well for someone in Georgia.
Here is a link that may prove to be helpful when choosing a radio and all the radios that are in this thread that have been rated can be flashed to your device without having to use security unlock prior to flashing. If you are with AT&T I would suggest that you give the radio and the ROM in my signature a try first. Then if you’re not satisfied with it you can just flash another one.
I just purchased a 512Leo Hd2, unbranded SPL 1.42. Now this site has been an amazing resource. I have been thinking about flashing a new ROM but I'm not sure about it yet. To tell you the truth I don't really mind the stock HTC ROM. However, I'm dying to run Android 2.2, problem being is that my radio version is 2.06.51.07 now from what I understand that version won't allow me to run Android. And I've tried it, Linux starts to load and either it freezes or the screen slowly blacks out. I've tried the formatting and it doesn't work. So my ? is this. After running HSPL, also don't know which one to run 1,2 or 3?, will the stock ROM still be there? IN which case I can then go ahead ad flash a radio version that will allow me to run Android? Or do I have to find a stock ROM from somewhere and load that? Can I save the ROM version that is on my phone now then reload it? How do I do that? If someone c an fill these blanks in for me I'd appreciate it!
Cheers
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my radio version is 2.06.51.07 now from what I understand that version won't allow me to run Android.
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Correct.
htchtchd2 said:
don't know which one to run 1,2 or 3?, will the stock ROM still be there?
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Flashing HSPL will do absolutely nothing to your ROM. It simply unlocks the phones SPL and allows the flashing of non-branded or unofficial ROMs.
More about HSPL 1&2 and HSPL 3
Which one you need depends on your device. I think HSPL3 might work for all but to be honest I've never bothered to look at it since I have HSPL2 and it works for me.
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IN which case I can then go ahead ad flash a radio version that will allow me to run Android?
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Yes you can. One of THESE will do the trick.
htchtchd2 said:
Or do I have to find a stock ROM from somewhere and load that? Can I save the ROM version that is on my phone now then reload it? How do I do that?
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Android works perfectly for me on my stock ROM with radio 2.12.50 For some people, the stock ROM does not work so the short answer is: "it depends". I say try a new radio ROM, leave the stock ROM alone and see if it works. If not, then look into flashing a custom ROM also. As for saving your current ROM, that's a bit more tricky, and more trouble than it's worth since you can find pretty much all the stock roms in the rom development threads such as THIS one.
If you have any other questions or need more clarification ask away (or PM me).
One more thing about flashing ROMS... Use caution and ask questions if you are unsure about something. Make sure you read and understand the threads dedicated to flashing in the links provided... Otherwise, you will have an expensive paper weight on your hands.
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One more thing about flashing ROMS... Use caution and ask questions if you are unsure about something. Make sure you read and understand the threads dedicated to flashing in the links provided... Otherwise, you will have an expensive paper weight on your hands.
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Hi!
I've been reading all your posts and i have a similar problem with my Leo.
I'm new at this so i am affraid to, like you said, have an "expensive paper weight".
I tried running the "FLASHAHOLIC RUU.." via USB but it keeps hanging while running task29. I then tried the official HTC web site but i doesnt work either.
I baght my device on amazon so it comes with WWE and o want to change it to Portuguese specially because of some keybord letters like "ç" for example.
Can you please give me a step by step guide so i can instal a new rom?
Thanks in advance.
Bitas said:
Hi!
I've been reading all your posts and i have a similar problem with my Leo.
I'm new at this so i am affraid to, like you said, have an "expensive paper weight".
I tried running the "FLASHAHOLIC RUU.." via USB but it keeps hanging while running task29. I then tried the official HTC web site but i doesnt work either.
I baght my device on amazon so it comes with WWE and o want to change it to Portuguese specially because of some keybord letters like "ç" for example.
Can you please give me a step by step guide so i can instal a new rom?
Thanks in advance.
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Everything you need to know - about flashing the HD2 - * HERE * (to the Mods, andchange this vauable info can be made a sticky in the ROM section?)