guys...im installing apps on storage card bt wen it gets installed it seems 2 occupy space in storage space of fone rather dan d mem card......ny suggestions......
It doesn't happens with all apps. Sometimes cabs have paths hard coded into them so they install in phone memory regardless what you choose. Some apps like opera installs some files on phone mem and some on card. Plus even if the cab installs on card, its uninstaller will always be in the \Windows\Apps folder.
bt opera takes abt arnd 8 mb mem......n i've seen in detail dat most of d apps install dere major part in phone mem.......so in dis way it leaves me wid jst arnd 4-5 mb mem n dat make f-touch flow really slow......n d worst part is dat it den starts takin arnd more dan 2 mins 2 access d windows folder........do suggest sm solution krazy.......thanx in advance......
Opera takes 8 MB if you install the phone memory version of it. There are also SD card versions available which takes around 3 MB in phone mem and rest on card.
This is not true that most software install their major part in phone mem. It depends upon what software you use. In my case, i install about 36 different utilities and software on my phone with my ROMs and i still get around 24 MB of free memory. My ROMs mostly have 35-40 MB of phone mem. So that means only 12-15 MB of phone mem is consumed for so many apps, plus my 3 email accounts, 268 contacts, 70+ calender entries, around 8-10 tasks and about 30-40 smss. so you see, its not much. In my knowledge most of the apps can be fully installed on storage card, only some like the Manilla2D plugin or other todays plugins and system utilities are REQUIRED to install in phone mem.
So you can understand that this is specific to the apps you use. Tell me a complete list of what apps you use and on which ROM (if its not correct in your siggy) and i'll try to solve your problem.
Windows folder browsing, although slows down as number of files increase, but there is a bug in the windows mobile version that i have used in BlackMetal ROM. Its present in all versions of Windows Mobile that have build numbers less than the one in Pro User's ROM. The bug is that if you or some program copies files into windows folder and it replaces a file that is in the ROM already (it cant overwrite it but it can be placed overriding the ROM version with the phone memory version) the windows folder access slows down. And this wont improve even if you remove the offending files. The only way to remedy such situation is to defrag the phone memory by Backing up using a tool like SKTools or SPB Backup, hard resetting your phone and then restore the backup. Sorry but you have to use either the Vanilla Manilla or Prousers rom to get out of this particular situation. You can install the black metal theme on VanillaManila also
well........i jst upgraded to Vanila manila ultimate version 6.5........bt prob is same as in blackmetal......im nt using dat many apps.......following is d list of apps i use:
Opera 9.5
Youtube app
tcmp player
transformer m2d theme
S2p player
resco file explorer and reg editor
pocket rar
psshut xp
Omap clock consule
M2DC
Asphalt 3 3D
Genesis Emulator
Pocket Nester
and now im left wid jst 11 mb mem in storage and 14 mb mem in program.....
.....do help me out krazy.......u rock man.........its all ur effort bcoz of which im usin GENE else i was planing 4 d VIVA jst 4 d manila 2d interface.........thanx in advance bro.......
e1 d asphalt 3 is occupying whole of d space in phone mem......
........nw im using ur prouser v2........help me out yaar.......feels very irritating 2 c dese in phone mem......
ny suggestions krazy......????
Nothing much can be done buddy, its the very nature of the apps you are using.
If they cant run from storage card, what can we do about it. As for the RAM, open task manager advance and on the Process tab, try to look for any process that is from one of these programs. Sometimes, even after closing, they run in background.
Opera takes 9 MB itself, the biggest reason why i dont use it. Use opera mini if you only do surfing as it is super fast and only 250 KB in size. You can download stuff with it also plus it can open desktop sites. The only thing it cant do is playing flash contents, but IE 6 in pro users rom can do that. So you dont really need Opera 9.5. And Opera 6.5 runs fine from storage card, if opera is something you cant live without.
Regarding asphalt 3 and genesis and nester, these are emulators man, what do you expect. They will take memory, you cant do anything.even if you buy a viva, you'll run into problems (if you really call them problems ) eventually with these.
thanx buddy...........
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Dear All
I managed to upgrade successfully to 1.5h but since it had some problems(like not persistent storage, active sync probs etc,)
So i moved to 1.60c a perfect one. did a 64 to 64 division and it was OK
but when i hardresseted the ram drive was missing.
So i pased to 1.65b.96 beter than 1.60c it has some options like Device Options on today screen batery status indicator and etc.
But when i install programs i can't remove them anymore.
the device stands with the 4 coloured ball moving.
The device is not hanged becouse if i push the "End Call"(Red)button it goes to today but i cant acces remove programs anymore(the 4 cloured ball will come) I have only to softresset to stop it. even when i try to remove again the same will happen
Any ideas
Thanks in advance
Aldo
Leave it i went to 1.71a of tofclock
It had some link problems but i fixed those.
One question how can i change the nk.nbf rom
I want to add some files or change some so if i hard resset i don't have to redo everything.
hey,
i want to remove the pre installed programs (like O2 Media plus...)
how to i "edit" the rom? so after HR, it wont be installed automatically?
actually, cab must be located in the "hidden" partition
how do i enter to hidden partition?
i entered the hidden storage,
buy i dont see there all the o2 programs... where are they?
again, i am searching for the installation files,
so when i will delete them,
a HR wont installed them..
If possible, I would suggest a hardreset. After the hardreset, you will came to small window saying that some software will be installed in 3...2...1 seconds (e.g. the screen you see just after the security option setup after the hardreset). When you see this screen (you have 3 seconds to re-act), soft reset the unit. Now, your unit will be customization free (e.g no customized software installed).
As you said you have already entered the EXT Rom, you can now choose which software you would like to install. If you don't know what they heck they are, just install it and see if there is any difference. Worse case, hardreset your unit again, take a bit of trial and error.
i dont see the 3 2 1 window
are you sure it is on the atom? i hear it on the jam, akaWM2003... and in WM5 it isn't...
The Software in the O2 Atom is in the ROM itself.
therefore you can not remote all of the O2 software....
Nadavi. 8)
Hi brothers
Its not good to enter hidden partetion,
I did all these things too... I also wanted to install some programs to main memory, but main memory is very small in atom it just 43 mb storage.
so i unlocked hidden partetion and delete all inside hidden part...
the result is camera and media plus, fm radio skins are corupted.
then i tried without delete anything, there left some space about 9mb,
And also camera getting problems....
So its better to leaave all in main memory, if you dont want see preinstall programs, enter windows directory start menu througj file explora and delete shortcuts.
Its good idea to by 2gb mini sd and have fun with free space
thank you. hope these information helps you.
hey,
i agree with you 100%,
but the reason i want to uninstall them, is not to save space (i already have the 2gb card). i simply dont want the progams on my device... each of the programs adds a little something to the registry, and god know where else..
hello,
i have two questions about theses roms here:
1. some roms have the 3d cube from the HTC touch enabled. is this cube loaded into the program memory (ram) all the time or is it only loaded from the rom during the first usage? i don't use it and i don't know if i waste some ram or not.
btw: is it possible to create some .cab files for touchflo and this 3d cube? with that no extra touch roms would be needed and everyone could install them on his neutral windows mobile 6 rom, which flashed on this device.
2. in the past we could unlock the extended rom and use it as a normal storage memory. is there any way in windows mobile 6 to use it like that?
LordDeath said:
hello,
i have two questions about theses roms here:
1. some roms have the 3d cube from the HTC touch enabled. is this cube loaded into the program memory (ram) all the time or is it only loaded from the rom during the first usage? i don't use it and i don't know if i waste some ram or not.
btw: is it possible to create some .cab files for touchflo and this 3d cube? with that no extra touch roms would be needed and everyone could install them on his neutral windows mobile 6 rom, which flashed on this device.
2. in the past we could unlock the extended rom and use it as a normal storage memory. is there any way in windows mobile 6 to use it like that?
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Yes to all questions
1. The cube is loaded one into the memory and stays there
It's possible to make cab files but that will slow donw to os
2. yes you can open the extrom and use it as storrage
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\AutoLoad\TRUEFFS_DOC1]
"Bootphase"=dword:2
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\Profiles\MSFlash]
"Folder"="Flash Disk"
"MountAsROM"=dword:1
"MountHidden"=dword:0
"Name"="FLASH Disk Block Device"
"PartitionDriver"="mspart.dll"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\Profiles\MSFlash\FATFS]
"MountAsROM"=dword:0
"MountHidden"=dword:0
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\Profiles\TRUEFFS_DOC1]
"MountHidden"=dword:0
that should open the ext rom
thank you gullum for your reply.
about the cab files: if these additions are loaded into the ram during the boot, whould it still slow down the device on normal running? afaik the rom is as fast as the normal storage memory.
LordDeath said:
thank you gullum for your reply.
about the cab files: if these additions are loaded into the ram during the boot, whould it still slow down the device on normal running? afaik the rom is as fast as the normal storage memory.
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I'm not shure about that but when these extra apps cab around they were all cab files before we got them coock into the roms and our phones got slowed down to their knees
ok.
and about the extedend rom: it becomes visible, but i can't write anything on it
I've been trying MN6 on WM5 and WM6 and I've done several cronos (boot time) with and without overclock, the results are:
MN6 on WM5: 45 secs
MN6 on WM6 without overclock: 1:30 secs (min.)
MN6 on WM with 244mhz overclock: 1:23 (min)
Free mem on WM5: around 24mb
Free mem on Wm6: around 21-22mb
Why this difference between these times? why on WM6 MN6 get the double of time to boot?
My rom is Prophet Touch 7
it suppose to be faster in WM6 as microsoft release notes
like in PC, when jumping from Windows me to XP to vista, the PC will be slower.
the programs run slower cause the windows has more functions in the core, I'm sure it has more functions, so if the program may need some times to load the system files and run into memory,
I think the program now searchs in more memory (system files loaded in momery and ROM)
if you try 6 mb pp it will release more program memory but it will be slower to read the ROM, but 4.5 mb pp size is enough, so 6mb is great
Chopin said:
it suppose to be faster in WM6 as microsoft release notes
like in PC, when jumping from Windows me to XP to vista, the PC will be slower.
the programs run slower cause the windows has more functions in the core, I'm sure it has more functions, so if the program may need some times to load the system files and run into memory,
I think the program now searchs in more memory (system files loaded in momery and ROM)
if you try 6 mb pp it will release more program memory but it will be slower to read the ROM, but 4.5 mb pp size is enough, so 6mb is great
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Ok, I can understand, but: why the double!! hehehe it's too much difference. I've done the try with 12mb and with 6mb of pagepool (zei v2 and touch 7) with similar results...
Prophet ROM CE OS 5.2.20924 Clean(Build 20924.1.5.0 PV )
Anybody want to try?
This ROM originally cooked by Lamson (PDAVIET), cleaned by me, contain only Office (minus Onenotes) and UC ready.
Thank's to Lamson (PDAVIET) for the creative ROM production
Download link:
Mediafire
Mirror link"
Down (looking for another)
Features of this rom and Memory usage stats please?
THX DEAR legedug
rahulganatra said:
Features of this rom and Memory usage stats please?
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Its clean my dear friend.
Only Office (minus onenote) and basic ppc soft such as calculator, networkwizard, and sim manager.
Why is this ROM consuming lot of memory then. only 23.6 mb free RAM ? Storage is quite impressive but if u get around 30 MB free then a clean rom is worth it, you can load a shell on top which on an avg will consume between 3-6MB
rahulganatra said:
Why is this ROM consuming lot of memory then. only 23.6 mb free RAM ? Storage is quite impressive but if u get around 30 MB free then a clean rom is worth it, you can load a shell on top which on an avg will consume between 3-6MB
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Its because of the page pool and usually for the first loading time, it use RAM, consider freeing the RAM after.
Mine, after installing 12 softs on main, 8 softs on extended, and 28 soft on storage card the sorage remain 27.72MB and program 13.83MB.
another reason for small amount of ram is that lamson's roms are set to have 4mb system cache that can be change under advanced config or any registry manager
i use 1 mb cache and 4mb pp and in any rom thats is kinda clean, can get at least 30 mb free ram
HI Legedug:
Would you like to upload a link in RADPIDSHARE using free account,cz I can not connect mediafire here in PEKING china.Thanks in advance...
legedug said:
Prophet ROM CE OS 5.2.20924 Clean(Build 20924.1.5.0 PV )
Anybody want to try?
This ROM originally cooked by Lamson (PDAVIET), cleaned by me, contain only Office (minus Onenotes) and UC ready.
Thank's to Lamson (PDAVIET) for the creative ROM production
Download link:
Mediafire
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Mirror link:
Rapidshare
Thanks,download has been well done
legedug said:
Mirror link:
Rapidshare
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legedug said:
Mirror link:
Rapidshare
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Hi, the following error occur while downloading from Rapidshare:
Error
This file is neither allocated to a Premium Account, or a Collector's Account, and can therefore only be downloaded 10 times.
This limit is reached.
To download this file, the uploader either needs to transfer this file into his/her Collector's Account, or upload the file again. The file can later be moved to a Collector's Account. The uploader just needs to click the delete link of the file to get further information.
Hi,
Thanks for this new ROM.
How can I put (or restore?) original green Windows 6.1 theme and backgound?
For my job , I need sometimes to make screen shots and it should be as close as a supposed original ROM.
Tia
C.
legedug said:
Its because of the page pool and usually for the first loading time, it use RAM, consider freeing the RAM after.
Mine, after installing 12 softs on main, 8 softs on extended, and 28 soft on storage card the sorage remain 27.72MB and program 13.83MB.
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oh my GOD
another very clean and very new build rom
i'm downloading it now
i was just getting used to your 20759 claen rom after 20 days with no problem
but i have one question :
how do you backup or restore all your programs on a new rom ?
do you reinstall all of them one by one ?
or you use soem software for that.
i tried spb backup but long time ago but was no good
i need somthing to only restore the installed programs and their settings in the registry.
thanks a lot
jullien said:
Hi,
Thanks for this new ROM.
How can I put (or restore?) original green Windows 6.1 theme and backgound?
For my job , I need sometimes to make screen shots and it should be as close as a supposed original ROM.
Tia
C.
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You mean Windows mobile green theme?
Just put this file/tsk (extract before) on windows folder, then change the theme on "settings, today, theme" with that theme.
ahwaztaxi said:
oh my GOD
but i have one question :
how do you backup or restore all your programs on a new rom ?
do you reinstall all of them one by one ?
or you use soem software for that.
i tried spb backup but long time ago but was no good
i need somthing to only restore the installed programs and their settings in the registry.
thanks a lot
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Yup, that is my problem also.
But I use one soft from this forum to install apps, its called Cabbatchinstall.
It can generate a list of softs on storage card and install one by one by its self (or skip it).
The UC only install on main memory but this soft can install on storage card or even extended_rom.
Here is the softs.
smarvest said:
Hi, the following error occur while downloading from Rapidshare:
Error
This file is neither allocated to a Premium Account, or a Collector's Account, and can therefore only be downloaded 10 times.
This limit is reached.
To download this file, the uploader either needs to transfer this file into his/her Collector's Account, or upload the file again. The file can later be moved to a Collector's Account. The uploader just needs to click the delete link of the file to get further information.
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Hemmm...
Stange behave for Rapid.
I did not do anything, but I also received the same error (even I, is the uploader).
So for momentary, use the mediafire instead. I 'll try to upload to another.
legedug said:
Yup, that is my problem also.
But I use one soft from this forum to install apps, its called Cabbatchinstall.
It can generate a list of softs on storage card and install one by one by its self (or skip it).
The UC only install on main memory but this soft can install on storage card or even extended_rom.
Here is the softs.
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A very useful program, Bro. Thank you.
legedug said:
You mean Windows mobile green theme?
Just put this file/tsk (extract before) on windows folder, then change the theme on "settings, today, theme" with that theme.
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Thanks! I'll try it. I've try another one, the main screen was green but other programs (for example calc) was still back.
If I rememeber well, your previous ROM had geen call win green theme was selected. In the mean time, I've found BlackDiamond theme that looks as an orginal one. It's also Ok for me.
I'm really happy with your good ROMs
C.
Does it support Asia area?
the rom was maybe lose more power?
when I sleep about 7 hours.... it lose amous 20% of power?