I have to give great credit to No2Chem over at PPCGeeks for putting together a solution to the issue with our CDMA landscape keyboard backlights shutting down after 5 seconds.
I diligently worked on CAB file that keeps the keyboard on all the time when the keyboard is open, and shuts off when you close it.
Here is the link to the Thread.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=44773
Donate if it works for you, and you like it.
Didn't work for me...
OUTSTANDING!
It requires a soft reset before it will work.
That explains it... I lost all my stylus so cant reset anymore
shutting off the phone is like doing a soft reset... hold the power button in for 4 seconds then it will confirm shutoff, then power on you just did a soft reset.
aaron580 said:
That explains it... I lost all my stylus so cant reset anymore
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you can use a paperclip, or ballpoint pen, or just download the softreset CAB installer and that will give you a button under programs to do a software soft-reset, no need to press the button
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Thank you for posting this. Never thought I'd actually see it work!
aaron580 said:
That explains it... I lost all my stylus so cant reset anymore
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stylii? lol
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stylii? lol
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At first I was gona correct you for correcting him, but then I remember the TP comes with two styli. haha
Finally, I can use my keyboard in the dark with fear of hitting the wrong key! By the way, is there a way to stop the keyboard from coming up on the screen every time I have to type something?!
Anybody else get the issue of the front keys staying on when the keyboard is in?
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At first I was gona correct you for correcting him, but then I remember the TP comes with two styli. haha
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Yeah i wasn't necessarily correcting him, I just knew it sounded funny, but so does styli. was just wondering what you call those!
if you need a stylus just go in and ask, I bet they give you one. I get so much free stuff from a friend bc they can take what people return. I get battery covers and batteries. I have 3 sitting on my dresser now.
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Finally, I can use my keyboard in the dark with fear of hitting the wrong key! By the way, is there a way to stop the keyboard from coming up on the screen every time I have to type something?!
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It seems I remember a setting in advanced config for "SIP Auto Deploy" that did the trick for me. I know I got it fixed (except in Opera), I just don't remember exactly how. So there's an answer out there if you look hard enough.
Can anyone explain why this interferes with the keyboard sliding sounds? Right now, if I use this, the sliding sounds won't work, but if I remove this, they work just fine.
i second that.....
on screen keyboard ? by rdar369,but then remembered the setting philipdhall mentioned and he's right ,want to try this cab file but read some where as well about the keys staying lit after closed and dont have an extended battery to spare the juice ,if i do try i will repost my findings
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I wanted to do this so that I wouldn't have to press down as hard on the screen, mainly for using S2U2, but this registry key does not seem to exist. I searched the registry for 'threshold' and could not find the screen setting:
http://www.pocketpctweaks.com/pocketpc_tweaks/Minimize_tapping_Pressure
Is this possible on the mogul? Thanks.
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I wanted to do this so that I wouldn't have to press down as hard on the screen, mainly for using S2U2, but this registry key does not seem to exist. I searched the registry for 'threshold' and could not find the screen setting:
http://www.pocketpctweaks.com/pocketpc_tweaks/Minimize_tapping_Pressure
Is this possible on the mogul? Thanks.
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No. not possible duue to hardware limitations. Pressing is required because of the type of touch overlay used.
This isn't a capacitive touch iphone! thank god!
When you align your screen if you use the softest touches to align it with it will make it where you dont have to touch so hard. I know it sounds crazy but I run into this issue once and realised that I was hitting the screen too hard during the calibration.
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No. not possible duue to hardware limitations. Pressing is required because of the type of touch overlay used.
This isn't a capacitive touch iphone! thank god!
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You don't like the iphone touchscreen? Why not? I wish windows mobile devices has screens like that. I do know that pressing is necessary, but how hard you must push is a setting.
Thanks for the tip about the calibration. I will try that.
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You don't like the iphone touchscreen? Why not? I wish windows mobile devices has screens like that. I do know that pressing is necessary, but how hard you must push is a setting.
Thanks for the tip about the calibration. I will try that.
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It's capacitive meaning you must use your finger. I like being able to use a stylus, pen cap, finger, gloved finger, finger nail, etc, etc, etc.
lllboredlll said:
When you align your screen if you use the softest touches to align it with it will make it where you dont have to touch so hard. I know it sounds crazy but I run into this issue once and realised that I was hitting the screen too hard during the calibration.
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I don't think this is likely. If this were true, someone could write an app to capture the touch pressure and change, say, the width of the brushstroke in a painting application (like a Wacom drawing tablet). I'm pretty sure that touch pressure for these screens is limited to ON and OFF, not variable levels.
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I don't think this is likely. If this were true, someone could write an app to capture the touch pressure and change, say, the width of the brushstroke in a painting application (like a Wacom drawing tablet). I'm pretty sure that touch pressure for these screens is limited to ON and OFF, not variable levels.
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You may be right, but I am still trying his method. What is there to lose.
J Shed said:
It's capacitive meaning you must use your finger. I like being able to use a stylus, pen cap, finger, gloved finger, finger nail, etc, etc, etc.
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Here Here!! I hate the iphone screen. no tactile feedback either. I'll take i t a step further and admit I hate the iphone!
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I don't think this is likely. If this were true, someone could write an app to capture the touch pressure and change, say, the width of the brushstroke in a painting application (like a Wacom drawing tablet). I'm pretty sure that touch pressure for these screens is limited to ON and OFF, not variable levels.
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QFT!!!
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You may be right, but I am still trying his method. What is there to lose.
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Your dignity.
This is not going to change anything, it's a placebo effect if anything. Just like the quickgps application soo many idiots are running.
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This is not going to change anything, it's a placebo effect if anything. Just like the quickgps application soo many idiots are running.
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Can you elaborate on this thought please? I am one of those 'idiots' who thought the application was helping.
I like being an idiot with no dignity.....ty for pointing this out
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I like being an idiot with no dignity.....ty for pointing this out
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Hey, at least your sense of humor is intact!
Thanks for making me laugh lllboredlll.
yeah the quickgps is deffinetly a placebo. I've thoroughly tested using and not using this on 4 different titan's with mixed/random results, and conclude, that it does absolutely nothing.
QuickGPS to clarify (this is now off topic of the thread) saves empheris data from the internet to a file that on the original phones would be checked and the data loaded properly to use. On the titan however the file is stored, and is never checked again. Many of the people responsible for giving titan users modded phones have stated this fact. Yet n00b's, no offense, continue to preach that it works and others follow along.
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QuickGPS to clarify (this is now off topic of the thread) saves empheris data from the internet to a file that on the original phones would be checked and the data loaded properly to use. On the titan however the file is stored, and is never checked again. Many of the people responsible for giving titan users modded phones have stated this fact. Yet n00b's, no offense, continue to preach that it works and others follow along.
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Good enough for me. I will not be using it from this point forward. Thanks.
just to keep the spunk alive in this thread,,,,
as for the screen pressure.. I was pretty sure that they are xon xoff too... and that pressure sensitivity has no premise in these phones... until..........
and I may be speaking out of my arsehole,, I had loaded up a couple big apps that sucked up a bunch of memory, and at first i thought my screen had quit responding, because when i would click it with the stylus nothing would happen,, but I pressed real hard one time and it worked,, I went back to normal pressure and it didnt work,, i tried with normal pressure 5 times and no go.. then the 6th time i pressed hard and pow it took it,,, i continued doing this just to test it out,, and it did the same thing over and over again until I decided to soft reset.. then all was back to normal...
so maybe I had so much buffering or something going on with the other tsr programs running, that it caused a glitch in the pressure threshold of the screen...
just a thought,,,
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Your dignity.
This is not going to change anything, it's a placebo effect if anything. Just like the quickgps application soo many idiots are running.
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LOL, you are great. I am going to read through all of your posts for insight and humor. Keep up the good work my friend!
Hi, any recommendation for a small external keyboard that works with TP2? Thanks.
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Hi, any recommendation for a small external keyboard that works with TP2? Thanks.
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You have got to be kidding me. Touch Pro2 keyboard is good for what it is.
Just found this on the web but not sure if it will work with TP2... Need to dig deeper on this. Another other recommendation?
you could have just bought a diamond 2 and used that :O
or a HD would have been sensible but you want 3 keyboards/!? Madness!
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Just found this on the web but not sure if it will work with TP2... Need to dig deeper on this. Another other recommendation?
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could someone tell me what cellphone is that on those pictures?
I can tell you what won't work. The Apple Wireless keyboard, even though it goes beautifully with it. And the Freedom Universal.
If anyone can find a way of getting them to work with it I will be most grateful.
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You have got to be kidding me. Touch Pro2 keyboard is good for what it is.
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what about bluetooth mouse ?? anyone ??
cheers
indra9110
i have a palm wireless keyboard working on mine
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i have a palm wireless keyboard working on mine
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Any issues?
I've only used it twice but I think there might be some probs
The first time I used it, it was fine. Second time, it was fine and then a few mins in, I couldn't get any of the symbols to work (so I'd just get 1 instead of ! and 0 instead of ) etc).
Got a new tp2 this afternoon (the one from other other day had probs) and have yet to charge it and try it out again. Will post back after I do...
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I've only used it twice but I think there might be some probs
The first time I used it, it was fine. Second time, it was fine and then a few mins in, I couldn't get any of the symbols to work (so I'd just get 1 instead of ! and 0 instead of ) etc).
Got a new tp2 this afternoon (the one from other other day had probs) and have yet to charge it and try it out again. Will post back after I do...
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It was a good thing I checked back. I was really close to purchasing one, no joke, but I'll wait to see if the issues stated are resolved with the new device.
ok, tried the keyboard again and it works BUT I get that strange thing happening with the numbers. It only happens when I slide my screen out, when i slide it back and have it in the closed position, the keyboard works fine again and I can use the symbols easily. When I slide it out, all of the symbols on the numbers stay as numbers when I press shift+number.
I agree why bother with a built-in keyboard...
I used to have a BT keyboard for my ipaq... I believe it was made by Think Outside, also had the mouse.
Using an external keyboard isn't that unthinkable. I think the built-in keyboard is great when you're on the go but at my work place, they block IM communications and having an external keyboard is great when paired with an IM-client on the phone. I'm pretty quick with typing with my thumbs on a hardware keyboard, but it's nowhere near the speed I can type when using my other fingers. That time spent typing adds up when chatting with multiple people who may be responding to you from a computer
Has anyone had an issue with the keyboard thinking that keys are being held down even though they are not? Not sure if this is an android issue but it had never happened when I ran Winmo on the phone.
Running latest kernel, ryannnathans sd setup and highlandsuns ril addition.
I will be typing along and suddenly get like 80 a's in a row with no way to stop it.
It may be the physical keyboard dying but I thought I would ask before I attack it with compressed air and a screwdriver.
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Has anyone had an issue with the keyboard thinking that keys are being held down even though they are not? Not sure if this is an android issue but it had never happened when I ran Winmo on the phone.
Running latest kernel, ryannnathans sd setup and highlandsuns ril addition.
I will be typing along and suddenly get like 80 a's in a row with no way to stop it.
It may be the physical keyboard dying but I thought I would ask before I attack it with compressed air and a screwdriver.
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Nothing physically wrong with the hardware, definitely an issue with our port. Not sure if anyone has nailed down the reason, but it seems to be if you're typing and some background process starts up, it can screw with the phone. I've also seen it where the keyboard appears to completely 'cut out' - nothing will be typed.
For both issues, sliding the kbd closed & reopening usually fixes it. This has fixed my issues 100% of the time when the kbd cuts out - however, it has not always resolved the repeat key bug...
I will try the keyboard slide. thanks.
I just had over 200 w's. LOL.
As long as I can stop it its tolerable.
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Has anyone had an issue with the keyboard thinking that keys are being held down even though they are not? Not sure if this is an android issue but it had never happened when I ran Winmo on the phone.
Running latest kernel, ryannnathans sd setup and highlandsuns ril addition.
I will be typing along and suddenly get like 80 a's in a row with no way to stop it.
It may be the physical keyboard dying but I thought I would ask before I attack it with compressed air and a screwdriver.
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Yep, I've seen it several times. It seems to happen when the CPU seems to be maxed out for whatever reason. My phone is usually sluggish and on screen buttons are slow to respond too when it's going on. I'm guessing the CPU is getting overloading and missing some of the hardware polling cycles. As a result it doesn't pick up the change in the button state and proceeds as if the button is still being held down. Aside from arrrghhh's suggestion of opening/closing the keyboard, pressing another key seems to interrupt the process (but it will happen again). For me, the main times I have run into the problem was when my phone was NOT overclocked. Certain apps (e.g. Super Manager) seemed to cause the issue more than others too.
Yeah, I have noticed that it only repeats a letter if I hold it. Now I only tap a letter a few times, for example if I want a few 2's I would push 2 a few times instead of holding it.
If it starts repeating what solves it for me is what arrrghhh said, slide the keyboard in and then back out.
I'm still not sure why this occurs though. Maybe the method it uses to emulate keyboard needs a bit of tuning
i believe the stuttering letter bug (hope this name will catch on ) is caused by something in the keyboard backlight commit as that is where is started. In gingerbread when you hold down a key it doesnt repeat it instead gives an option to use variations of that letter, because of this maybe in gingerebread this bug is not as annoying
iv used gingerbread but havnt taken any notice of wether i had the bug or not, its not as bad lately on the kernal i use but i will take not next time
That's an interesting observation, I thought the bug always existed but I can easily believe it has to do with the keyboard backlight. I was looking at that code the other day, it definitely looks suspicious.
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i have been getting this for quite sometime now...it only started when the backlight in the keyboard started working..
coolwater22 said:
i have been getting this for quite sometime now...it only started when the backlight in the keyboard started working..
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It does *seem* like the bug was introduced around then. Not positive tho, wish there was a way of tracing/reproducing this issue.
Perhaps trying files from before backlight was added?
If I had the time to look back I would.... Maybe in the next few nights.
I always hit home and let the maelstrom of letters work itself out and then return to what i was doing (texting usually).
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I always hit home and let the maelstrom of letters work itself out and then return to what i was doing (texting usually).
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Also I have recently noticed that closing/opening the keyboard again seems to stop the progressing letters.
And when you open/close the keyboard the backlights go off then on. This is another observation which hints that the keyboard backlight commit is at fault. It also may be useful to note that when you shut the keyboard it doesn't stop the letters, it is upon re-opening when it stops.
This bug has always been worth putting up to have keyboard bl but it still would be nice to have someone clean ir up and see if they could remove the bug
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This bug has always been worth putting up to have keyboard bl but it still would be nice to have someone clean it up and see if they could remove the bug
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We look forward to your patch!
I guess I'll save Jandyman the trouble. I've worked out the patches for userland keyboard and buttonlights. I also now have a kernel with the keyboard light stuff disabled. Will be testing on my phone for the next couple of days and see how it behaves. (So far so good, while entering this post...)
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I guess I'll save Jandyman the trouble. I've worked out the patches for userland keyboard and buttonlights. I also now have a kernel with the keyboard light stuff disabled. Will be testing on my phone for the next couple of days and see how it behaves. (So far so good, while entering this post...)
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Awesome. I'm sure he'll appreciate that .
FYI, I was going to bug you about this - if the caps/FN and kbd hooks should be in userland anyways, perhaps that rewrite should begin...?
I'm not so sure about caps/fn. I don't think there are any userland hooks for them. Or, haven't found them yet.
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I guess I'll save Jandyman the trouble. I've worked out the patches for userland keyboard and buttonlights. I also now have a kernel with the keyboard light stuff disabled. Will be testing on my phone for the next couple of days and see how it behaves. (So far so good, while entering this post...)
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That's great to hear thank you highlandsun.
Sorry people I got no idea what is the perfect verb to put. As you know the power button should be emerging from the phone, but as I chat a lot and close the phone between messages and stuff it became.. "bent" in?
I cant really put pictures at the moment as I have no camera, but the point is, I can't use the phone properly now.. Sometimes when I try to put the phone to sleep it restarts, or pops up the "power menu" (Reboot, power off..etc) . And sometimes when I am using it the backlights just start flashing and bam, the phone reboots alone.. more terribely it sometimes just becomes stuck in a boot loop due to power button restarting the phone over and over again lol ?
So the question isnt really software but hardware, I tried the pin that you use to bring out the sim slot to try and push the power button out, but well.. It doesnt fit. Anyone got any idea what to do ?
Take the cover off and reposition the button.
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Take the cover off and reposition the button.
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Seems like there wont be any other way other than opening the cover. Guess I will just send it to a local shop to reposition.. Shouldn't cost much..
An advice for others, use the swipe2wake if you can lol ..
Is there a tool similar to the IOS's accessibility tool? You know that little box that you press on and you can choose the "Home button" or "Sleep" ..etc?
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Seems like there wont be any other way other than opening the cover. Guess I will just send it to a local shop to reposition.. Shouldn't cost much..
An advice for others, use the swipe2wake if you can lol ..
Is there a tool similar to the IOS's accessibility tool? You know that little box that you press on and you can choose the "Home button" or "Sleep" ..etc?
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There WAS one, i'll see if i can find what it's called for you....haven't heard about it in at least 2years though.. (it was on the market) but have a look in the application dev section on xda
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There WAS one, i'll see if i can find what it's called for you....haven't heard about it in at least 2years though.. (it was on the market) but have a look in the application dev section on xda
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Found a recent one, Floating Toucher.. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2355373
Its quite similar, maybe not the best RAM optimized, its a bit laggy but should do the trick. For those interested, have fun. and support the developer.
For those who don't know what I am talking about its called "Assistive touch" on the IOS.
Best of luck, thanks Lloir
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Found a recent one, Floating Toucher.. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2355373
Its quite similar, maybe not the best RAM optimized, its a bit laggy but should do the trick. For those interested, have fun. and support the developer.
For those who don't know what I am talking about its called "Assistive touch" on the IOS.
Best of luck, thanks Lloir
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glad i helped? i guess lol
Ive taken it off myself with a guitar pick and its very strong and holds up more than I thought. So its no problem. Also no warranty is voided doing this if I remember.
This is a small app I made, that does realy nothing other then call PowerManager.goToSleep.
This is normally not possible as DEVICE_POWER permission is only given to system apps, so will not work unless you have super user mod.
ROM developers can sign it with their ROM key if they wanr it in their ROM. If you sign it to your old ROM, please attach it to a post in this thread and I will add a link to your post.
screenshot @ChikeD?
Pandemic said:
screenshot @ChikeD?
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LOL,, of a widget?
There you go
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LOL,, of a widget?
There you go
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Yeah its relevant how it looks like
and ok lol
what's the utility of this??
sorry for this newbie question.
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what's the utility of this??
sorry for this newbie question.
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Put the phone to sleep.
If I set screen timeout too short it will turn off while I'm reading something, if it's long enough I need to press the power button if I want to save battery, which is not very convenient. so this make it easy to put it to sleep
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Put the phone to sleep.
If I set screen timeout too short it will turn off while I'm reading something, if it's long enough I need to press the power button if I want to save battery, which is not very convenient. so this make it easy to put it to sleep
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thanks, so this tool replace the function of the power button?? or is something related to wakelocks?
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thanks, so this tool replace the function of the power button?? or is something related to wakelocks?
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Only the sleep functionality of power button (short press), nothing to do with wakelocks oher then overriding any that are held at the time it is pressed, just as the power button does.
My mom would love something like this. She hates the powerbutton on her P, and I do too lol
I tried a few similar apps from play store, but most of them seemed to drain battery (not going to sleep properly?) or just cause freezes and other funny things. One of them actually completely locked up my One S, forcing me to go into recovery to uninstall it lol
So, question is, will this drain battery or cause funny issues? Or is it simply a 1:1 replica of the powerbutton?
Also, possibly slightly offtopic, but this(or super user mod) isnt working on ICS is it?
Ive been away from android stuff for almost a year now, so most of my devices are quite outdated software-wise
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As I've said in the OP it realy does nothing, so no battery drain waht so ever.
It will work on (almost) any android version, providing it is "granted" the DEVICE_POWER permission, either by signing it with ROM key or if you have bypass this permission check like super user mod does.
As for the super user mod, it might work if you mod it for ICS yourself, I'll check ICS services.jar.
EDIT: I've looked at ICS services.jar and the code look about the same so I'm guessing you can mod it.
Aight, sounds good.
I found a lot of other interesting stuff that requires JB, so Im gonna go ahead and update it to JB.
Thanks for looking though.
@Goatshocker
A bit OT too, but if you realy hate the power button that much, I have another lil app I made, that turn the phone on waving the hand over the proximity sensor.
This does cause some battery drain, about 3% of total on my phone according to battery stats.
I know there are other apps that do it, but for some reason they hold a wakelock (at least some of them) while mine let the phone deep sleep, and all you need to do to stop it is click it in the notification tray.
It does not require any mod, and should work on any device.
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A bit OT too, but if you realy hate the power button that much, I have another lil app I made, that turn the phone on waving the hand over the proximity sensor.
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I'd hate that even more, and I'm sure my mom would too. Stuff like that is just begging to cause issues
Nope, a simple "power-button" on the screen is exactly what she needs and wants.
edit: It works fine so far btw
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I'd hate that even more, and I'm sure my mom would too. Stuff like that is just begging to cause issues
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Issues like what? So far the only issue I have is that it is sometime difficult to wake up while in deep sleep.
I don't know what impact it has, if any, on the proximity sensor life time
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Nope, a simple "power-button" on the screen is exactly what she needs and wants.
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But the screen is off, and more than that, the activity(window) that is in front is paused when the creen goes off.
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edit: It works fine so far btw
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You upgraded to JB already?
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You upgraded to JB already?
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Yeah I did it yesterday even.