Hi friends! and brothers in arms
I really NEED your help,and I would know to APPRECIATE it!
Before 2 days I became new proud owner of X7500(my old dream come true-change it for previous device Diamond)
These 2 days I have been reading all threads and posts about upgrading,but i am still CONFUSED?!Because upgrading Athena is much more complicate than Diamond or even my old Tytn2?!
This Advantage is second hand device(ex owner sold it my bro,who gave it to me-after i had gave him my 2 months old Diamond...I don't repent),and I do not know its upgrading history.
I see that its
WM6.1
ROM ver. is AP 4.0 Platinum
Radio vers. is 1.50.00.00
and in bootloader mode I get these infos:
ATHE100
IPL-v2.02
ATHE100 MFG
SPL-v3.50.Olinex
My real problem is interpretation of these infos?!
I have an idea to upgrade to new ROM WM6.5 MULTILANG R6.5 RC1 by MiChYPrima, and my main question is :is my Athena SAFE of bricking during standard procedure of upgrading,or I have to do something before that(e.g. hard Spl,or some other prevention of bricking)?
Thanx in advance!
Sory for my English!
Greetings from Belgrade, Serbia!
Drgrabez
drgrabez said:
Hi friends! and brothers in arms
I really NEED your help,and I would know to APPRECIATE it!
Before 2 days I became new proud owner of X7500(my old dream come true-change it for previous device Diamond)
These 2 days I have been reading all threads and posts about upgrading,but i am still CONFUSED?!Because upgrading Athena is much more complicate than Diamond or even my old Tytn2?!
This Advantage is second hand device(ex owner sold it my bro,who gave it to me-after i had gave him my 2 months old Diamond...I don't repent),and I do not know its upgrading history.
I see that its
WM6.1
ROM ver. is AP 4.0 Platinum
Radio vers. is 1.50.00.00
and in bootloader mode I get these infos:
ATHE100
IPL-v2.02
ATHE100 MFG
SPL-v3.50.Olinex
My real problem is interpretation of these infos?!
I have an idea to upgrade to new ROM WM6.5 MULTILANG R6.5 RC1 by MiChYPrima, and my main question is :is my Athena SAFE of bricking during standard procedure of upgrading,or I have to do something before that(e.g. hard Spl,or some other prevention of bricking)?
Thanx in advance!
Sory for my English!
Greetings from Belgrade, Serbia!
Drgrabez
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Anyone?
Am I right when I think that every needed step before upgrading new ROM is already done(cid unlock,HardSpl..)?
Thanx
It seems that you are ready to upgrade to michyprima 6.1 without needing to do anything before. Since you have "SPL-v3.50.Olinex" your device should be ready. Make sure to download the right version and for you is the one which clearly says SPL3.5:
this is the link:
===============LATEST VERSION===============
Download links - R6.5 RC1:
SPL3.5: http://rapidshare.com/files/22128552...1500_MiChY.rar
===============LATEST VERSION===============
You already have a cooked rom (AP 4.0 Platinum) so everything should be working good after.
Sorry for my English too...
Greetings from Greece brother!
Thanx MXracer!!!
U R great man!!
I did it!
Everything is working great!
I put Radio rom too, ver.1.58!
Now is time for "fine tuning" of device and software into it!
Thanx again MXracer!
I owe you!!
greetings from Serbia
You'll like the radio 1.58. I, and many others, noticed a very large increase in network data speed after that upgrade. A shame that the hardware supported it from the start but HTC has never officially provided an update for Athena owners.
To further explain the "3.50" MX talked about above, essentially there are 2 versions of the "file system" in the Athena. The factory version is "1.20" if I remember correctly. When AP 4 came out (here on xda-developers) those guys changed the file system so there would be more reserved room for the operating system. AP 4 was very large and needed that extra OS room, but of course the downside was less room for additional programs. That is the "3.50" you see in the bootloader. I still use AP 4 because it had so much built-in I've had to install very little extra stuff to work for me.
SPL 1.20 was the code given once the device was unlocked, can't remember what factory one was. It was all so long ago
Jay
responderman said:
SPL 1.20 was the code given once the device was unlocked, can't remember what factory one was. It was all so long ago
Jay
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To clarify:
1.2 was developed first to unlock standard X7500/X7501 and be able to work on ROMs for those devices. That ROMs were more or less a developed versions of first WM6 coming from various other devices as well as the original X7500/X7501 ROMs.
Then X7510 was released with WM6.1. The ROM was much bigger in space on the disk. X-DEVs (Mainly Pawel and his TEAM together with Olin and cmonx) have decided to use this ROM as a base for AP4. That is why OlinX group have developed new SPL3.5 which created bigger space for this new ROM. Those two SPLs are not compatible. If a ROM is made for SPL1.2, it shouldn't be installed on SPL3.5, and the opposite. However to switch from SPL1.2 to SPL3.5, you have to first install AP4. It is because AP4 installer has SPL3.5 built in. Actually, this is the only way to switch from SPL1.2 to SPL3.5.
If somebody wants to move back to SPL1.2, no problem. Cmonx has prepared special procedure for that. However one should never try to install ROM made for SPL3.5 on the device with SPL1.2 (unless the new ROM is AP4) or any ROM for SPL1.2 on the device with SPL3.5 installed already.
About Athe versions:
AThe100 is on X7500/X7501 devices. Athe400 is on X7510 devices. Those 2 devices look pretty similar, but in fact have big differences in hardware, and because of that, one should never try to install ROM on one of those devices, which was prepared for the other type. The difference is in storage and hardware keyboard. X7510 has flash 16GB storage, while X7500/X7501 have 8GB hard drive. Those two need different drivers. So if you try to install ROM for X7510 on X7500/X7501, you will loose your 8GB hard drive. If you do the opposite, you will loose your 16GB Flash Disk. Normally it shouldn't be possible because ROM installers should not let you do that, but some users here have managed to do this some how, and they had a problem.
Hope this helps a bit.
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hi how do i get SPL 3.5 to run on my Athena? so i can flsh up the new Rom ?
hope you can help
thanks
lidan
lidan25 said:
hi how do i get SPL 3.5 to run on my Athena? so i can flsh up the new Rom ?
hope you can help
thanks
lidan
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You need to download AP 4.0 rom and run it as exactly told in the instructions, Follow them to the letter or you may mess up. Once thats loaded you can either run that rom or try the new AP 5.0 beta. once you have AP 4.0 on your athena you will have SPL 3.5 on as well. However you cant go back to using shipped rom's without using a SPL 3.5 type rom or swapping your SPL back, and I dont know how that is done.
Just read up first before doing anything!!!!
All the best
Jay
thanks
thanks i will look up for the info in hare so i will not have a problem to get it runing !!
lidan25 said:
thanks i will look up for the info in hare so i will not have a problem to get it runing !!
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No worries, But I cant stress the read the instructions first bit enough. No end of people have had problems by jumping the gun, including me!! I didnt take out my SD card and by the time I had realised what had happened it was to late. You can normaly get the rom onto your athena if you mess up, but you usualy end up without WiFi. so then that has to be sorted. Pawel and Irus have made some very good roms on SPL 3.5 and irus has added an HTC shipped rom if you want to go back to basics.
Jay
AP 4.0 rom
so shud i run this rom update ?? is this Irus Rom ? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=390328
are shud i be runing on the 6.0 ??
what shud i run if you are me ?
can you post the the link of Irus Rom and what do i need to do so i will have SPL 3.5 on my Athena and will not kill my Athena !!
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so shud i run this rom update ?? is this Irus Rom ? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=390328
are shud i be runing on the 6.0 ??
what shud i run if you are me ?
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I'm not sure if you need WM 6.0 first, but if your ok with flashing roms then do WM 6.0 first!
Ive put the link you need on my post above.
And its a matter of personal choice if you want the roms or not. read the contents of them and make a choice. Pawels roms 4.0 and 5.0 are from the x7510 so about as good as you get. Irus roms are WM 6.1 so also very up to date. You do get a few minor bugs in cooked roms though.
Jay
i am with WM 6.0
i have no need to upged to it !!
but i was on to update to WM 6.1
and if Wifi will not work on AP4 so it is no good for me i need to know whats the best and will not be to bugy thats all !!
i have X7500
is AP 4.0
are Irus
will run on it ?
Flash AP4 - just follow the instructions and it will all work.
AP5 is still beta (but a very good one)
Or you could just flash one of irus' ROMS but I'd recommend AP4
whats the probleme with wifi in AP 4.0? i hare it isnt working
is thare a fix for it ??
lidan25 said:
i am with WM 6.0
and if Wifi will not work on AP4 so it is no good for me i need to know whats the best and will not be to bugy thats all !!
i have X7500
is AP 4.0
are Irus
will run on it ?
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You misunderstood, if flashing AP 4.0 goes WRONG then you end up with WiFi not working till its fixed! If you do everything right then everything runs well!
You will get a bug or two on any cooked rom, even shipped roms have them. but read the thread and you can see most have a cure!
Jay
As responderman said - it only doesn't work if you don't follow the instructions. Follow them and it works.
If you can't follow instructions don't flash your phone.
Igo 8 will work i did see a post in hare that thay say it may not work have you test'd it do you know any thing on that problem ?
man i think i am in to asking it that i am new with this 1 i had flsh't all my ppc but this 1 i didn't yet so i am like on a bit confused what to do and if i do it what Rom is best i know that i had Kaiser i liket the WM6.1 on it and for me to go beck to WM 6.0 is a big problem thats why i am in to asking all of that thing's !!
I think it's better to unlock only to spl1.2 and not 3.5 because spl3.5 device cannot come back to 1.2 at the moment. With spl3.5, you can only use ap3, ap4, and ap5, not not the stock rom.AP4 and 5 has many unresolved issues at the moment, so some users found themselves having to use ap3 at the end.
A smarter strategy is to go spl1.2, and you can use pk1, pk2, pk3, irus vanilla, irus lite, irus full, irus AP4, stock rom (many versions here), wm5 (technically possible, but I know of only one user who prefers that). Irus ROM is faster than AP4 and 5, according to a user who had used both. SPL1.2 leaves you with more memory too.
Ap5 in spl1.2 will very soon be available. Many spl3.5 users are waiting for the tool to come back to spl1.2, and they would love the chance to make this choice of spl once again.
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I think it's better to unlock only to spl1.2 and not 3.5 because spl3.5 device cannot come back to 1.2 at the moment. With spl3.5, you can only use ap3, ap4, and ap5, not not the stock rom.AP4 and 5 has many unresolved issues at the moment, so some users found themselves having to use ap3 at the end.
A smarter strategy is to go spl1.2, and you can use pk1, pk2, pk3, irus vanilla, irus lite, irus full, irus AP4, stock rom (many versions here), wm5 (technically possible, but I know of only one user who prefers that). Irus ROM is faster than AP4 and 5, according to a user who had used both. SPL1.2 leaves you with more memory too.
Ap5 in spl1.2 will very soon be available. Many spl3.5 users are waiting for the tool to come back to spl1.2, and they would love the chance to make this choice of spl once again.
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whats spl1.10.000?
if i have this what can i do ?
read this link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2236522#post2236522
lidan25 said:
whats spl1.10.000?
if i have this what can i do ?
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Mate read this page! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2236522#post2236522
This guy had the same problem as you because he did not read the instructions
He solved it by reading the wiki and the links referenced.
We have told you what you are doing wrong as it is a common mistake.
Stop whinging and start reading!
My 2 Cents
Have a look at all the info on the several flavors of rom available for the Athena based decvices, choose the rom you feel fits your needs, take your time and follow the instructions (what ever rom you choose have a look at the ap4 wiki because it covers some issues that are WM6.1 related and are not AP4 unique) as with all cooked roms there may be some issues but if you follow instructions you should be fine (as already stated if you go with AP4 and upgrade to the new SPL 3.5 you can't go back for now, the AP team is working on a path back to the factory roms).
Cheers
BR
I'm a newbie here and considering the purchase of a used X7500 with WM6.0. The current owner has a problem with the bluetooth not functioning. I'm wondering if this might be a common problem with 6.0 and if the new cooked 6.1 (4 – if that’s the latest rom version) might solve such an issue?
Also, would someone mind directing me to the page that has the most popular /cleanest 6.1 rom? I’m tearing my hair out trying to figure out which is the safest/best one to use. I realize that such questions have been asked before, but it's still a big job trying to sift through all the possibilities. Perhaps a sticky including an on-going tally chart with download frequencies or something, together with tags that users could add about what issues their hoping to overcome with the ROM download?? Just a suggestion...
Peter (Bamse1)
Hard to say....
LATEST usually is better, generally speaking we have to choose FIRST the SPL
Unlocked AThena means SPL 1.2. The newest ATHENA (X7510) needs more ROM space so AP4 Team developed the AP4 ROM TOGETHER with a tool to increase the ROM space, and the SPL becames SPL 3.5.
WARNING: you can flash ONLY SPL compatible ROMs, this means NO ORIGINAL ROM is SPL 3.5 . You have to revert it back to 1.2 to flash any official rom
We have a sticky thread here with the ROM links, ALL WM6 or 6.1
Latest Micky's (5.1, 6.1) are the best (IMHO) 6.1 latest is WM6.1, stable build with manila 2d and newest Internet Explorer , little less stable than 5.1, rock solid. I use SPL 3.5, I like to have ALL the utility needed into the ROM.
You can choose sogarth base AND sogarth kitchen to do-it-yourself or IRUS lite-vanilla ROM (the AP4 vanilla)
I will suggest this roadmap:
Start with IRUS spl 1.2, then
Flash AP4, latest AP team release an you will have the SPL 3.5 too
Then check sogarth, or Irus Vanilla-Lite release
Michy 5.1 or 6.1 to check the manila 2d and the increased responsiveness
Wait for the next michy's release if you want really lite and newest build
Thank you for replying so quickly Sergiopi. Still, the lingo is a bit overwhelming for a newbie like me. For instance, one issue is confusing: You write that SPL 3.5 is intended for the X7510 but later on your roadmap you suggest AP4 (including SPL3.5) for the X7500. To confirm, this will not harm the X7500, correct?
If I understand half of what you say then I may 'liberate' the UNLOCKED X7500 with an OEM WM6.0 (from HTC) by
1. Flashing IRUS SPL 1.2 (No turning back now right?)
2. Then flashing AP4 (Question: is AP4 WM6.0 or 6.1?)
3. Here it gets confusing for me. If I understand correctly then "sogarth, or Irus Vanilla-Lite release Michy 5.1 or 6.1 to check the manila 2d" are all different update versions stemming from AP4?? For instance is Michy 6.1 a 'cooked' version of WM6.1, along with the rest of them?
I don't need everything tweaked to the max, just a stable and reliable system that has all the functionality the X7500 is capable of together with the basic apps... a modest aim don't you agree?
The cream on top would be to replace the stylus with TouchFLO 3D - is this possible with one of the cooked roms you mention? However, this is not really necessary - kind of gimmicky from one point of view I suppose. In fact, did I read somewhere that FLO actually slows things down?
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Thank you for replying so quickly Sergiopi. Still, the lingo is a bit overwhelming for a newbie like me. For instance, one issue is confusing: You write that SPL 3.5 is intended for the X7510 but later on your roadmap you suggest AP4 (including SPL3.5) for the X7500. To confirm, this will not harm the X7500, correct?
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SPL 3.5 is needed on X7500 to have the newest features in the ROM
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If I understand half of what you say then I may 'liberate' the UNLOCKED X7500 with an OEM WM6.0 (from HTC) by
1. Flashing IRUS SPL 1.2 (No turning back now right?)
2. Then flashing AP4 (Question: is AP4 WM6.0 or 6.1?)
3. Here it gets confusing for me. If I understand correctly then "sogarth, or Irus Vanilla-Lite release Michy 5.1 or 6.1 to check the manila 2d" are all different update versions stemming from AP4?? For instance is Michy 6.1 a 'cooked' version of WM6.1, along with the rest of them?
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If you have a "STOCK", SIM unlocked X7500, to flash a non official ROM you need to flash the SPL 1.2 FIRST ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=316846 )
THEN you need to upgrade the radio 1.57 or 1.58, I am using 1.57 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=372904
THEN you can flash the newest OS, (ALL cooked ROM are OS only, no RADIO, even if I am not sure about radio in the sogarth one, and the newest RADIO is needed by WM 6.1)
1) SPL 1.2 comes from Athena Wrapper, you can revert back but isn't easy for a newbie..
2) AP4 shoulh be WM6.1 OS check the thread Michy's are WM6.1
3) NO, IRUS vanilla comes from AP4, sogarth ? (may be they used some common base ROM) michy's aren't from AP4
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I don't need everything tweaked to the max, just a stable and reliable system that has all the functionality the X7500 is capable of together with the basic apps... a modest aim don't you agree?
The cream on top would be to replace the stylus with TouchFLO 3D - is this possible with one of the cooked roms you mention? However, this is not really necessary - kind of gimmicky from one point of view I suppose. In fact, did I read somewhere that FLO actually slows things down?
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Touchflo 3d isn't available for athena, Manila 2d looks like (and works like) T3D, reducing available RAM and slowing down the system
Start testing, from your requirements I think you will like Michy's 6.1 (play with T3D clone and disable it after a while ) and the announced Michy's vanilla. AP team announced some news, but it was one month ago and they are still testing...
Well this certainly helps dry up the mist! The point about the radio seems like an important addition. I'm still not clear about one point however:
2) AP4 shoulh be WM6.1 OS check the thread Michy's are WM6.1 ... 3) NO, IRUS vanilla comes from AP4, sogarth ? (maybe they used some common base ROM) michy's aren't from AP4
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Again, my primary aim is to get the cleanest and most fully-functional version of WM6.1 with the least amount of steps or tweaking. Assuming that A4 is 6.1 (haven't checked yet) then why is it necessary (or preferable) to flash sogarth, or the Irus Vanilla-Lite release (of A4) AND, then, add Michy 6.1 (to check the manila 2d?) which is also 6.1? It sounds like Michy's 6.1 is the way to go (with or without the T3D clone) but I don't understand why you suggest to flash sogarth/IRUS Vanilla first? Is it to get 2D? But elsewhere you suggest that Micky 6.1 includes 2D? Finally, you also suggest adding the announced Michy's vanilla... Can I do this and bypass sogarth/Irus Vanilla-Lite? I guess I'm still not clear about the difference between A4 (sogarth/irus vanilla) and Michy's work, and how or why these apparently need/should coexist on the STOCK Athena/Advantage X7500 (ie. NOT Ameo/simlocked)?
There is another question about adding apps once the cooked ROM 6.1 has been installed. Somewhere I read that these ROMs don't allow new apps, so you need to get it right the first time or redo the entire process. Is this correct? I suppose the cooks have taken this into account with their ROMs, which is perhaps one reason behind their multiplicity?!
I appreciate your patience! This is all new stuff and I'm still trying to get my head around it.
I also wish to add a private message quote from Brau0303 on the topic that helps nuance the discussion:
We were all noobes at some point so no worries. As to the best rom (my friend that is purely subjective, I was fond of the AP Teams rom and the work done by MichyPrima, you will find two main flavors of rom for the Athena, roms intended for the normal 1.2x SPL and those intended for the 3.xx SPL the custom SPL/unlocker is required for any non factory rom flashing and the main difference between 1.2x & 3.xx SPL is 1.2x retains the factory rom flash partition, 3.xx re-partitions the rom flash area to allow for larger roms like AP-4 and above. you must be careful and please read all the documentation prior to flashing or you could damage your Athena.
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This leads me to a new question: Is there any value in retaining the factory rom partition or is it a no-brainer to reclaim the space with a 3.X partition? In other words, is it possible to have WM6.1 with the factory partition in place, e.g. in case one may want to reset the device to a factory setting for resale purposes?
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Well this certainly helps dry up the mist! The point about the radio seems like an important addition. I'm still not clear about one point however:
Again, my primary aim is to get the cleanest and most fully-functional version of WM6.1 with the least amount of steps or tweaking. Assuming that A4 is 6.1 (haven't checked yet) then why is it necessary (or preferable) to flash sogarth, or the Irus Vanilla-Lite release (of A4) AND, then, add Michy 6.1 (to check the manila 2d?) which is also 6.1? It sounds like Michy's 6.1 is the way to go (with or without the T3D clone) but I don't understand why you suggest to flash sogarth/IRUS Vanilla first? Is it to get 2D? But elsewhere you suggest that Micky 6.1 includes 2D? Finally, you also suggest adding the announced Michy's vanilla... Can I do this and bypass sogarth/Irus Vanilla-Lite? I guess I'm still not clear about the difference between A4 (sogarth/irus vanilla) and Michy's work, and how or why these apparently need/should coexist on the STOCK Athena/Advantage X7500 (ie. NOT Ameo/simlocked)?
There is another question about adding apps once the cooked ROM 6.1 has been installed. Somewhere I read that these ROMs don't allow new apps, so you need to get it right the first time or redo the entire process. Is this correct? I suppose the cooks have taken this into account with their ROMs, which is perhaps one reason behind their multiplicity?!
I appreciate your patience! This is all new stuff and I'm still trying to get my head around it.
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VANILLA-LITE SPL 1.2 means the cleanest, and no needs for SPL 3.5, BUT is an OLD WM6.1 Build. It means NO newest Internet Explorer, NO enhanced contact/messaging, NO rotation sensor enabled and some other bugs
SPL 3.5 means more complete ROM (more space, more built-in utilities) and a LATEST OS Build is commonly better
ALL ROMs allow the installation of new applications (may be you mean UPDATED version of the built-in applications isnt allowed, but a good chef knows the problem and use some tricks)
SPL 3.5 is a two way road, you can go back. My suggestion was... YOU choose the best ROM, and start testing (and stop talking ) flash some ROM and you will have more experience (and less questions )
Let me also add Lakeman's message reply:
I like michys roms and usually play with his latest creations. michy4.1 is reportably the most stable. there is a thread by sergiopi with links to all the roms at the top of the winmobile6 forum and i would recommend reading the beginers guide I wrote as well
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Also, thanks for your consistent replies sergiopi. One comment: I don't own a X7500 yet so unfortunately I can' t begin experimenting. In fact, I want to avoid experimenting by writing and talking on this forum! Isn't that the smart thing to do anyway, rather than brick a device?
Here is a recent follow-up from Brau0303. I asked him to clarify what the SPL is:
Yes much of this can be overwhelming, SPL is not actually directly part of the device OS (think of it more as a bios type component) and you have to have the special versions of the SPL to unlock the ability to flash custom roms) I think the upgrade to 6.1 is worth it. many of the basic roms will work on a spl 1.20 olinex device, but the more feature rich roms that are based on the x7510 version require the 3.xx spl because it re-partitions the flash rom space. hope this helps.
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You can also read more about SPL here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296432
and of course the wiki here: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=SPL Questions?
Hi Brau0303, I've taken the liberty to post your reply on the public thread. I hope you don't mind. In the process I came up with a new question: is there any value in retaining the factory rom partition or is it a no-brainer to reclaim the space with a 3.X partition? In other words, is it possible to have WM6.1 with the factory partition in place, e.g. in case one may want to reset the device to a factory setting for resale purposes?
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Response from Brau0303:
Well if you go the way of spl 3.x you can only flash roms intended for 3.x, cmonex created a utility that allows you to go back to the spl 1.2x and standard factory settings/partition. I can say that it does work because i used it when I sold my Athena.
Cheers, BR
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have that much clear now. Thanks BR. I guess the main issue for me now is wading through all the lingo to decipher what cooks refer to when they label their ROMS (which ones go with which device/rom series). One question that is still bugging me - what is the relationship between AP4 and Michy 4/5/6? Sergiopi suggested that I flash both, but doesn't one overwrite the other? They are both ROMS correct? (As you write below, I only need one rom.)
Originally Posted by bamse1
Again, thanks for your reply. I noticed in your signature that it appears like you're running a cooked SPL with a stock ROM. I didn't realize it was possible to change the SPL alone and run a stock rom, if I am assuming correctly. What is the advantage of that may I ask?
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Originally Posted by Brau0303
Cheers, Peter
Well as I had said the SPL is not tied directly to the rom, the special spl allows you to flash cooked roms, you can not flash them with a stock spl (only allows flashing of released factory roms) here are the main components
SPL - loading the special spl version allows you to flash cooked roms (you can install this and still run stock roms)
Radio - you can flash a radio version without having to flash any other stuff (some roms require certian radio versions)
ROM - contains the WM OS and all the others required drivers and programs and such
Cheers, BR
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Checking SPL
Hi mate
I thought I would answer your pm here
You need to have the phone in your hands to do this , but from the beginners guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=429013
"Check Bootloader Screen
Throughout this forum you will be referred to your SPL.
This is the Secondary Program Language and on your unadulterated ppc it will be 1.1
Olipro's original unlocker upgraded this to 1.1x but the unlocker above will change it to SPL 1.2
You can see if this has already been done by putting your phone into the Bootloader screen.
This is done by holding the camera button completely in and then pressing the reset button.
You will now see a red/green/blue and white striped screen telling you the device id and SPL version.
If you see SPL 1.2 , you are good to go to load any SPL 1.2 Rom"
further to this you may also see SPL3.5.
If you have this you can only flash SPL 3.5 roms
The bootloader screen is also where you can see what radio is installed
AP4 stands for Athena Project rom no 4
there is supposed to be AP5 in the works.
regards Michael
Hi Lakeman,
Thank you. Your post helps clear things up even more. I think I understand the progression from SPL 1.2 to 3.5 as well as the Radio upgrade. But Im still confussed when it comes to the what I think is the ROM side: AP4/5, Michy, and IRUS/vanilla... and left with 1-2 questions:
-Several have seemed suggested Michy 4/5/6 on top of or together with AP4/5 (see earlier posts). Sergiopi also mentioned a Sogarth or Irus Vanilla-Lite release. I'm just not clear about how these fit together, or if they should fit together. For instance, doesn't one rom overwrite the previous?
- Also, are AP4/5 and Michy 4/5/6 all SPL 3.5 versions? Does it matter?
I guess my main issue now is wading through all the ROM lingo and labels and how these (apparently) are used together.
Alright folks, Touch Cruise 2 SIM Unlocker sorted, enjoy the usual boilerplate text:
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Nice one, Olipro!!!
Is your tool instantly kill CID in T4242?
ZILLKA said:
Nice one, Olipro!!!
Is your tool instantly kill CID in T4242?
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yep it unlocks everything
if you're thinking of Region ID, that requires a patch to the ROM itself.
Olipro said:
if you're thinking of Region ID, that requires a patch to the ROM itself.
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exactly, and I 'll upload such a patched ROM soon.
cmonex said:
exactly, and I 'll upload such a patched ROM soon.
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Is it based on NBHUtil utility, or there is another ROM tweak?
alvy said:
Is it based on NBHUtil utility, or there is another ROM tweak?
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NBHUtil is just a tool that packs .NB into .NBH or extracts .NB from .NBH
the tweak is 2 patches actually. I got distracted, sorry for the delay regarding the ROM
cmonex said:
the tweak is 2 patches actually.
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all of them in nk.exe?
alvy said:
all of them in nk.exe?
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no, only 1. the other one is rilphone.
heh doesn't look like there's that many iolite's out there.
cmonex: Well, I think that Iolite is just unneeded daughter without any further advertisement. Instead, everyone wants Diamond2 and other clones. Anyway, nobody around has the same device as me .
Hi, Oli & Nex,
First, thanks for your great work to making these HardSPL and unlockers, without them the Windows phone will be much less attractive.
At the time when my Kaiser is broken, my friend send me a Touch Cruise 09 from China. It is a special edition of Iolite custumized for China Unicom,officially called Dopod T4288. From the specs I found its major difference with the HTC T4242 model is that it does not support WiFi. Later on I flashed your hardspl on it and found it works great on flashing ROMs. But I got some trouble on using some ROMs, for example, for the official WWE ROM version 1.11.706.1, the ROM is flashed smoothly and bootup with no problem. But it can not pass by the customization process. It stuck at about 60%of progress bar on the customization screen after after already aligned screen.
My question is: Is this from the hardware variaty or is CID related?
Thanks again for your contributions.
wg5566 said:
Hi, Oli & Nex,
First, thanks for your great work to making these HardSPL and unlockers, without them the Windows phone will be much less attractive.
At the time when my Kaiser is broken, my friend send me a Touch Cruise 09 from China. It is a special edition of Iolite custumized for China Unicom,officially called Dopod T4288. From the specs I found its major difference with the HTC T4242 model is that it does not support WiFi. Later on I flashed your hardspl on it and found it works great on flashing ROMs. But I got some trouble on using some ROMs, for example, for the official WWE ROM version 1.11.706.1, the ROM is flashed smoothly and bootup with no problem. But it can not pass by the customization process. It stuck at about 60%of progress bar on the customization screen after after already aligned screen.
My question is: Is this from the hardware variaty or is CID related?
Thanks again for your contributions.
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wow, very interesting. not sure why that would be... maybe some driver issue. you'll need to cook a rom based on original stock ROM for Dopod T4288. to get stock ROM, see ROM update, if there is none yet, dump one from a stock phone.
did you ever solve that?
Well Cmonex, Sorry for the late reply.
Later on I found that I can use most of the custom ROMs here without sticking on the customization screen. Although the WiFi never works or shows up.But I don't use WiFi so much hence it does not matter.
Up to now I can not convince myself to start cooking a ROM. I know it's not difficult to cook a rom but it's not so easy to cook a perfect ROM. Just I can not sit in front of a computer hours after hours. Now that we have so many chefs here, I'd glad to use and test their ROMs.
I did dumped the ChinaUniCom stock ROM before flashing the first ROM, but it's after already flashed your HardSPL. The link of the dumped ROM is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5014258&postcount=7
[Etit: Now it's already made into an ruusigned.nbh ROM, from the raw files of China Unicom stock ROM version 1.13.706.2, for the Dopod T4288 variant model of HTC Iolite, simplified Chinese language, the download link is together with the raw files in the above link.]
So if you or any chef here have interest o look into the ROM, please. That ROM is dated end of April, maybe the latest stock ROM up to now and contains some special small apps. Please do tell me if anybody want to translate something from there, since it's CHS ROM.
Tx n bst rgz.
Not security-unlocked
Hey there.
I already had a SIM-unlocked HTC, but I purchased the unlocker so I could have my security unlocked, so I could flash another Radio.
However, that did not happen and I tried over and over again, ending up with the same error messafe: RSA Fail.
Could you please provide a way for me to do this or refund me?
Best regards,
hello everybody
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These program can i find it for free?? Thanks!
HI
Can anyone tell me if I can upgrade to WM6.5 (english) from WM6 (CE OS 5.2.1622 - Build 18128.0.4.4)
HTC Touch Dual (NIKI100) Radio is: 1.58.1627.
Do I have to update the radio to 1.65 ? if so,...um...how do I do that?
Which WM6.5 Rom would I then need to flash to end up with 6.5 in english on my Touch Dual?
Could someone please put me out of my misery if it's a "no"..........I think I can handle it.....
Have you even looked at the rest of the threads here? There are quite a few WM6.5 roms floating around and a lot of them are english.
Upgrade yes or no
Yes Lukesky,
Thanks for your reply..yes. I've been reading these forums for around 2-3 years now so I know the roms are out there of course, but that wasn't my question. I have seen some horror stories too of some people upgrading and having the wrong radio version installed and ending up with big problems. My Touch Dual is quite old now with an older radio version than most I see here. So, of course I can download a WM6.5 in english, but my question is firstly, can I upgrade the radio version (without my phone being rendered useless !)because it seems that most 6.5 versions require a radio of at least 1.65 , and then a suitable version of WM6.5 after that. Just need a yes or no answer really...
Regards
keeezy
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4661762&postcount=2 i hope this post help you
I've a question :
Which version of Windows Mobile 6.5 is the official one (not a beta and co) ?
And is there a French Rom ?
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I've a question :
Which version of Windows Mobile 6.5 is the official one (not a beta and co) ?
And is there a French Rom ?
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an official 6.5 rom for the nike is not available! the last available official htc rom for the nike is a 6.1, but i think htc dont release a official 6.5 rom .
here a french rom:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=529795
i think only this french 6.5 rom for the nike is available, but I'm not sure
Ok thanks !
upgrade 1st to latest version of 6.1 available from HTC ( official version that match you CID/language).
this will upgrade your radio so you don't have to upgrade radio, also you will have a original rom that your original spl will accept if you mess up ( forget to HardSPL ).
run SoftSPL and flash HardSPL 1.22
flash a WM6.5 rom
you could brick your phone but i think the dangerous part is flashing HardSPL.
while original SPL is there u can flash original rom (WM6.1) and after anything by starting into bootloader tricolor screen (Pwr+Camera after reset).
Syre....thanks for your guidance..just what I needed.
Syre,
Thank you so much...that is what Forums are for....help from other users who know about specific situations without all of us having to read through hours and hours of threads. You da man...
Have a drink on me and tell the barman that keeezy will pay for it !! (don't think that's gonna work somehow !!! still, thanks guy)
i know this is probably somewhere and il get told off for asking this but i have searched and searched for the past 3 days now and just got a load of confusing stuff about Olipro Hard SPL 2.10 (which i have now worked out to be a boot loader..... i think....) but most the links i found go to a nonworking wiki page..... can some one give me a simple how to guide??? I am completely new to WM and flashing these devices so i have no idea what i am doing.....
thankyou for any help you can give me
edit: the main thing a actualy need is to use my 8GB microSD card... if there is a simple update i can put with WM5 then that would be perfect!!!!
edit 2: im running on Windows Mobile 5.0 with the Messaging and Security Feature Pack OS 5.1.461 (Build 15671.3.3.0) i think there is a more recent version of this but its not on the htc website..... and i cant find anything anywhere....
Hi,
I am also new to this forum and to using Winmo but to flash your rom to one of the cooked roms available on this site you just need to connect your Hermes to your pc and make sure that active sync is connected up. Make a backup of your data such as contacts, messages, etc. Then you need to run Olipro Hard SPL 2.10 as that will prevent a bad install from turning your Hermes into a brick. Find more info about that and download Hard-SPL-V7.zip at the bottom of the first post on following page.
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296722
Once you have finished running Hard-SPL you can then run one of the Roms here. I am using Shamanix`s WM6 Ultimate v2 FINAL at the moment which is really nice.
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=359917
But there are loads of other really cool cooked roms which I will try out sometime. Next one I will try is CRCs Release 13.5 - Stable which looks very cool too.
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=387990
Hope that helps some. Cheers, t_t
hi and thanks for help!
How is it going to relate to unlocking? I have a cingular 8525 which I unlocked after a few days of struggle.
Will it be unlocked after the update or I have to unlock it again?
I have:
Code:
ROM: 2.15.502.3
ROM DATE: 04/09/07
RADIO v: 1.16.00.00
Protocol 32.53.7018.01h