Hi all,
Now updated to 1.E lots of new stuff
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I recently released an app for syncing pocket outlook contact pictures, birthdays and names with facebook.
Features include
Manual matching of contacts
Auto matching of contacts
Sync Pictures
Sync Birthdays
Sync Names
Quiet Mode - Call "Booksync.exe -q" from a scheduling app to perfom a silent sync
Auto update
Facebook page for BookSync
Website for BookSync
The apps currently on its 5th version 0F and is now stable (had a few issues in the early versions but they have been worked out now).
Hopefully people will find it useful, please leave feedback to help improve.
To help spread booksync please become a fan.
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Thanks
Mike.
Thanks for making such a great app.
So far, I haven't been able to get the Birthday Sync to work. Would it matter if my friends have their birthdays hidden?
Hi, thanks for your support.
Facebook just return the birthday as a string made up of all the parts the friend has allowed access to. I attempt to parse that and only update if a full date can be found.
So sorry if people are hiding their year of birth they wont update.
Mike
Does what it says on the tin.
Very nice, and very useful. Thank you for making this available.
This looks very very good -- and I've tried every "Facebook to Outlook or Windows Mobile" app out there.
Really looking forward to:
* Higher resolution contact photo's
* Ability to select which of the matched contacts get sync'ed (so "matched" doesn't equal "sync'ed")
* Option to not sync pictures (if you just want to sync birthdays, for instance): I have a number of friends whose Facebook profile pictures aren't as nice as the contact pictures I've given them...
If you find the time:
* More things to sync, like home address, work, Facebook groups to Outlook categories... (if possible)
* Individual sync settings for each contact that are stored for future sync'ing so it can really be used as an automated process.
These are just to inspire you, it's not a list of demands!
Robrecht said:
This looks very very good -- and I've tried every "Facebook to Outlook or Windows Mobile" app out there.
Really looking forward to:
* Higher resolution contact photo's
* Ability to select which of the matched contacts get sync'ed (so "matched" doesn't equal "sync'ed")
* Option to not sync pictures (if you just want to sync birthdays, for instance): I have a number of friends whose Facebook profile pictures aren't as nice as the contact pictures I've given them...
If you find the time:
* More things to sync, like home address, work, Facebook groups to Outlook categories... (if possible)
* Individual sync settings for each contact that are stored for future sync'ing so it can really be used as an automated process.
These are just to inspire you, it's not a list of demands!
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Thanks
The pictures being sync'd are the highest quality pics that can be sync'd. Facebook gives you a few options to select from (square, small, big, normal), from feed back from mainly htc users I select the biggest picture possible to sync with. This is dependent on the image that the friend uploads of course.
Your other point about selecting which contacts to sync has been mentioned before. I plan to redesign the UI to include this. I'm an asp.net/win forms developer who originally wrote booksync for myself and decided to release it then it took on a mind of its own from feedback etc.
The redesign of the UI may take a bit of time as I learn so will be included in future release.
I will investigate how much can be sync'd.
Would really love for phone number and email address but these are not available.
Thanks for your feedback its just what I was after
Nice work. Thanks!
Wow. Ill give it a roll. Looking forward to the update you mention with choosing which pictures
Outlook Birthdays (if not given the year can be done by adding the "current year" but that should also be optional.
I have tried it and loving it.
I only have to fix the file as after I am done syncing.
It would also be nice to import facebook contacts as well even if it is just a link to their web adress such as www.facebook.com/friend that way the contacts can be integrated into PIE as well.
any chance you also use myspace?
I have been switching over, but some of my friends have not. In fact, I have a lot more friends on myspace than on FaceBook.
thanks for sharing this great app.
Thanks.
Will look at working create contacts into a future release.
As for myspace I will have to do some investigating around their api (if they have one) I dont use myspace so not played around with it.
i installed it but uninstalled it on my htc touch pro...it worked once for me then it kept on crashing. i never got it to work since the first sync..not sure why...
lawsofpower48 said:
i installed it but uninstalled it on my htc touch pro...it worked once for me then it kept on crashing. i never got it to work since the first sync..not sure why...
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Sorry to hear you're having a problem, did you get any sort of error message?
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Sorry to hear you're having a problem, did you get any sort of error message?
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i got the same problem it crashes right after it tries to login
I got a minor problem of the login page not really fitting on my QVGA screen and no scroll bars to adjust. the size of the fonts are good, but I have to use the tab key to select the password and logn button. also have to fix file as in my contacts.
Login page needs the most work.
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i got the same problem it crashes right after it tries to login
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yea it says some type of program error and crashes...other then that it worked nicely on the first try....but until this is fixed i will wait again...great work on it tho..i just wished that it synced everything that the fonebook app does which works similar
Having some issues as it looks like everything is fine but it just sits with the "Syncing..." message on screen but does nothing, even after half an hour.
I was hoping to remove the link to the first contact in case it's just his contact causing the issue but I can't see a way. I ven uninstalled but it's retained the link. Where are the settings stored so I can start from fresh?
Hi,
The picture quality is actually pretty ok. Much better than what you get when adding pictures in (desktop) Outlook.
Thanks for considering my suggestions. The option to select which of the matched contacts are sync'ed will be a great enhancement, I hope you get it done.
What would also make me happy is the option not to sync pictures, and being able to choose this for each contact individually... some of my friends have really ugly profile pics.
Creating new contacts from unmatched Facebook friends, as someone suggested, is a really good idea as well. Somehow your program feels really promising. I think that's why a lot of people are rooting for you to make it into a full-fledged Facebook-to-Contacts sync solution (not just pictures). Too bad Facebook doesn't make phone numbers and e-mail adresses available, but well, that's how it is.
mikeapple said:
Thanks
The pictures being sync'd are the highest quality pics that can be sync'd. Facebook gives you a few options to select from (square, small, big, normal), from feed back from mainly htc users I select the biggest picture possible to sync with. This is dependent on the image that the friend uploads of course.
Your other point about selecting which contacts to sync has been mentioned before. I plan to redesign the UI to include this. I'm an asp.net/win forms developer who originally wrote booksync for myself and decided to release it then it took on a mind of its own from feedback etc.
The redesign of the UI may take a bit of time as I learn so will be included in future release.
I will investigate how much can be sync'd.
Would really love for phone number and email address but these are not available.
Thanks for your feedback its just what I was after
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One more thing... From time to time, Booksync stops working: it starts up, tries to log in, then throws an error each time.
I noticed that by removing the <SessionKey> line from the settings file, I could get the program working again.
?
Robrecht said:
One more thing... From time to time, Booksync stops working: it starts up, tries to log in, then throws an error each time.
I noticed that by removing the <SessionKey> line from the settings file, I could get the program working again.
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Where is the BookSync Settings file
It's under 'Program Files/BookSync' and is called 'settings.bss'. Removing the entire settings file would work too, but then you'd have to re-match all you contacts. If you only delete that single line in a simple text editor, you can keep the rest of your settings.
Hope it works for you too.
blantoncg said:
Where is the BookSync Settings file
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Hi
If anybody is interested in having RIM Blackberry + loads more functionality on an XDA, please take a look at - [http://www.a2000d.com/Duality_Always-On_Mail.htm] This is a server based product & suitable for 10 or more users.
Cheers
John[/url]
Wow, that's a lot of complexity to do something that's essentially already built into the device.
Hi, I think you may have missed the point somewhere along the line, sorry if I didn't make things clearer. This is full GPRS PUSH email which the XDA, in it's native form, isn't capable of.
Hope this helps.
No real difference. It keeps the GPRS connection open, just like keeping it open and having your mail software check for mail every five minutes. No effective difference, unless your e-mail is so important that you can't wait five minutes. But then you could set it to check once a minute.
It's not a true push in the sense that the server can't initiate the inbound connection.
Something pretty similar and cheap could be set up quite easily. The basic problem is that the XDA can't hold a GPRS connection permanently. You don't see the advertising bunf about 'always on connections' any more.
You could get blackberry-like functionality with two simple apps: one that runs on your exchange server that gets an SMS gateway to send you an SMS in a particular format when you have mail that hasn't been retrieved for a few minutes. And one that sits on the XDA checking incoming SMSs and when the 'check your mail' message comes in, starts attempting to start a GPRS connection and poll your server.
I agree with Andy. In fact I just noticed that T-Mobile are offering this very capability to all e-mail subscribers right now. The PPC client has to have an additional option ('my alerts') that has the specific functionality aka: read the 'hidden' SMS message and go and retrieve the mail.
Only problem seems to be that this additional option in the WM2003 e-mail client is not available as a separate download, but built into the ROM image. Seems that the only device that has it built in right now is the new HP PPC phone. I enabled this service on my t-mobile account and I receive the special SMS message fine, but my XDA e-mail client is not smart enough to recognize the special SMS message and then go an pull the mail down. I still have to do it manually. Still we are getting close to 'psydo push' e-mail I guess!! Does anyone know of an e-mail client for the PPC that has this functionality built in to it???
Look ay iAnywhere's Pylon Anywhere solution, it is better.
Only US $634 for five users (includes server back-end and client software), runs of Exchange or Notes. As for clients, it provides support for a broad range of handheld devices, including Palm OS, Microsoft Pocket PC and Smartphone, Symbian OS, SyncML, and WAP-based devices. Even supports RIM devices.
Communication is fully encrypted!
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It provides three connection types; ReadySync, network push and SMS push - of course you can manually sync as well.
Most of the providers (mobile) use some sort of SMS push to triggger your device to sync to get new mail. This solution supports that, if you want it. The network push is real-time, if something triggers the monitoring server it immediately has your device sync that information type. Pylon Anywhere can monitor and sync Inbox, Drafts, Sent Items, Calendar, Contacts, Notes. From both the client and server sides.
There are a ton more features that are incredible, like killing (hard reset) a device remotely if stolen/lost. I will have a review up by the end of the week, will post here (if I can).
Thanks Nighthawk. Looks pretty interesting and quite a bit cheaper than the Intellisync product I have been looking at.
I have downloaded the documentation and am thinking about doing the 30 day trial, but I am a bit confused about the various hardware requirements. All I use right now is a WIN XP laptop with MS Outlook for mail. My mail is POP 3 from BellSouth and I have a DSL connection to the Bellsouth account via a dynamic IP address.
It looks like that to install the PylonAnywhere server, I am going to need MS Exchange, a static IP address and my own domain..... Am I reading that right, or can I simpy install the PylonAnywhere server software on my laptop and point it to the BellSouth POP 3 account for my mail? Any idea?
Many Thanks!
CB
Yep, this is a server based system. Connects to your exisiting Exchange or Notes mail server(s).
You sound like your just connecting to your own desktop, hmmm.
You might want to look at Smartner's Duality Professional edition or Internet Edition.
Go here: http://www.smartner.com/products/professional.html
These two are based on a single user concept vs. enterprise.
Hope that helps, let me know how things go.
Yes, I came across the Smartner product in my sesrches too. Does not appear to be available in the USA form some reason... In fact the licencing agreement actually precludes you from installing it if you live in the USA. Must have some kind of licencing problems I guess.
...?
I saw that while looking at their web site, kinda concerned me :?:
One could only speculate as to why, since not listed anywhere.
I think you can still DL the trial vesion off their site thoguh. If not, check out Handango, they have two versions listed (one a monthly contract).
Hi Nighthawk.
Yes, I did manage to download the trial, but it seems to be the 'enterprise' version, with functionality and architecture very similar to Intellisync and Pylon. I did not see a trial for any of the basic connectivity versions... I think I will call Smartner on Monday and see what the deal is with the licensing. I suspect it may be some kind of patent issue with one of the other providers... I'll let you know what I find out.
To download the Enterprise trial I had to request it via an e-mail, awaiting responce.
The Handango version is the Professional version, you can DL a trial version (doing it now).
Definately let me know what you find out from them, thanks.
Hey..
Smartner Duality is quite a good package for RIM like functionality. I bought the professional version a couple of months ago. It was easy to install etc. The only thing I didn't like about it was that it only does e-mail. It doesn't sync your calendar/todo. Their Enterprise edition is the only one that will do calendar/todo. Other than that it works great.
I'm definately thinking about trying Pylon Anywhere after reading this thread 'cause I want calendar/todo syncing... And quite cheaper that Duality Enterprise's smallest license.
Thanks Nighthawk. I think the professional was the version I downloaded from Handango. It looked like it still required an exchange server, but I stopped when the licence agreement said 'NO' to installing in USA... I'll let you know what they say... In the mean time, do you know of any 3rd party e-mail apps for PPC that are more reliable for checking the POP 3 server? The Pocket Outlook app time interval ba ed checking seems very intermittant and unreliable.
am-imate,
If you have any questions about Pylon Anywhere just let me know, more than happy to help. The server install is pretty easy, you will need Outlook 2000 w/SP2 (only) and java installed for the machines (server) browser.
cbrow51,
I remember seeing something, will check when I get home for ya. Think I saved a link.
Nighthawk said:
am-imate,
If you have any questions about Pylon Anywhere just let me know, more than happy to help. .
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Well Nighthawk, I have a question on all this, a kind of « question asked by a dummy » for I know little but not enough to make my way through all the material posted here.
I would like to create a Blackberry like function on my XDA. I’ve looked at this post and got some part of it very clear. The rest remain quite unclear.
My company uses MS exchange server in the office and I have a PC with Outlook on XP on my PC. My company already uses blackberry solution which I do not have but would like to uses my XDA instead to avoid duplication of hardware.
If my understanding is correct,
1. I need to install Pylon Anywhere (or some other application) on my XDA to collect my new mail.
2. I need to liaise with my Mail server administrator to have the server send my XDA a special SMS to silently trigger the synchronization process.
3. I will use on my XDA ActiveSync Inbox to read my mail on my XDA.
Now, this seems to be too simple. Did I put all the pieces in the right place?
Email Push
I'm using the Mnotes program on my i-mate for Lotus Notes wireless push. It works well, the push works flawlessly and doesn't require installation on the server-just my desktop which acts like a server for my handheld. I also have it working through our firewall using a Movian VPN(v4.0). All of this works through my gprs connect.
The only downside is that an incoming or outgoing call interrupts the gprs and the VPN disconnects and must be manually re-connected. on i-Mate
Tanguy said:
1. I need to install Pylon Anywhere (or some other application) on my XDA to collect my new mail.
2. I need to liaise with my Mail server administrator to have the server send my XDA a special SMS to silently trigger the synchronization process.
3. I will use on my XDA ActiveSync Inbox to read my mail on my XDA.
Now, this seems to be too simple. Did I put all the pieces in the right place?
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Pylon Anywhere requires a server back-end, meaning you must install a Pylon Anywhere server into your network. This server connects to your companies Exchange/Notes server. It then communicates with the Pylon Anywhere client software on your device, after you have it installed by the server.
Nighthawk said:
am-imate,
If you have any questions about Pylon Anywhere just let me know, more than happy to help. The server install is pretty easy, you will need Outlook 2000 w/SP2 (only) and java installed for the machines (server) browser.
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NightHawk,
Much obliged, I may send you a PM with a few questions if that's OK..
Did you install the Demo before the real thing?
Thanks,
I'm no longer working so I've removed the link to my old company.
I've added test version of the cab file that hopefully fixes group sms messages. PocketSMS204.cab
I've just uploaded another release of the desktop application that does not expire.
Version 2.03
Added File\Preferences to allow for different inbox and sent folder names.
Fixed the Invalid Address problem on the pocket pc when sending messages.
Version 2.02
Fixed ip issues on the pocket pc, Moved the files into your "my documents"
Saved the distribution lists.
Version 2.01g Pocket PC Cab - removed
Even more error trapping. ...... Well I thought the new library worked
Version 2.01f Pocket PC Cab
Error trapping for ObjectDisposed problem
Version 2.01e Pocket PC Cab
Fixes date issue on new SMS
Version 2.01d Desktop and Pocket PC installs.
I've made a few tiny cosmetic changes to the desktop application and re-built the Pocket PC application to make sure it is Compact Framework 2.0.
Version 2.01c PocketSMS.cab
New version of the inthehand library so it should work better )
Version 2.01b PocketSMS.cab
I've added a new PDA version with a tiny fix for people with no inbox folders.
just install this instead of the cab with 2.01.
I've gone back to an earlier release of the inthehand library and deleted one line of my code.
Version 2.01
I've finished putting the menus back together that I broke when making the app pretty.
Message Interception now should work better and not crash the app.
Version 2.0
I've upgraded the design and fixed a few issues. Many of the (context) menu actions don't work at the moment but will as soon as I get round to them.
I found I needed to soft-reset my device after the install.
If you have used previous version then copy your original sms.xml and contacts.xml files to the new program directory on your desktop before you run the application the first time.
Version 1.12 (removed)
1. More Error checking.
2. Excel Export
3. Extended character support.
I've added a Smartphone 1.11 cab file.
Version 1.11
This has the new inthehand library which solves a major issue with sendind SMS messages.
It need to access your phone number. On some phones it does this by accessing the SIM card on others it gets the number from the Owner information.
Version 1.09
Hopefully this will solve the Connection problem one or several people have been having.
Version 1.08
Fixed the invalidcast problem and tidied up the communication from the pda to the desktop.
Version 1.07a Desktop and 1.07 Pocket PC release.
27th Oct Added more error trapping to the pocket pc application, now added a smartphone 1.07 release. Smartphone users need to get the desktop application from the other zip file.
I've tidied a few things up and fixed a few reported bugs.
I'm looking for feedback now on what people would like next.
Pocket SMS V1.06 (Alpha) is available.( removed the binaries)
V1.06 takes some of the processing off the phone and moves it to the desktop so the performance is so much better.
Just added PocketSMS_Smartphone_105.zip This contains a totally untested build for the smartphone.
Install the PocketSMS_SmartPhone.Cab on your device. You may need to install the inthehand.mobile.2.1.cab too.
Pocket SMS is a desktop SMS Manager designed to interface directly with Pocket PC Phones.
Key features:
Full Backup of All text messages
Chat history by Contact
Send Text Messages from the desktop
Distribution Lists for sending Scheduled text Messages
Folder Management
Telephone a contact
Instructions
For Pocket SMS to work you must be connected via Activesync or, for Vista users, Windows Mobile Device Centre 6.1 (or better).
The software comes in two parts: the desktop Manager and the pocket pc client. You must install the PocketSMS.Cab on your mobile device and the SMSManager.msi on your desktop. In addition if you have not already installed Compact Framework 3.5 on your mobile then run NETCFSetupv35.msi on your desktop to do the installation. You can doenload the Compact Framework here:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...37-A62F-4A6E-9727-7791BF4CC2BD&displaylang=en
The first time you connect, depending on the performance of your phone and the number of messages in your SMS folders, Pocket SMS can take quite a few minutes to “look” as if it’s working ….. be patient.
Your Contacts can be downloaded by using File\Synchronise Contacts.
You can view all the contacts by double clicking on "Contacts" in the view.
You can create as many Distribution Lists as you like and Lists can contain more lists or people. You can drag and drop people or messages into any list.
I'm adding more features as I can and still trying to improve the reliabliity.
Let me know what changes you would like.
Regards
Pete
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I'm writing a free desktop SMS manager that will allow you to:
backup SMS messages onto your desktop.
Send texts from the desktop.
Dial a contact from the desktop.
Reply,Delete, Move folders.
View texts by contact.
I would also like to add MMS messages but have failed to get anywhere with them. I have contacted Arcsoft but the very nice VP of Sales wants $200,000.00 for his developer kit.
Has anyone had any luck in interfacing to the Arcsoft MMS?
Regards
Pete
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Thats very interesting!
keep on the updates !!
Well, regarding MMS, what you "could" do, is call the pocket pc composer via a RAPI call. Other than that, you'll definitively need some kind of SDK, since the MMS service is not a standard one.
Wow, I can't wait infopete
That sounds like a great app you are working on, even if you cannot get the MMS portion to work. Please let us know when the app is ready and how we can obtain it. I'd definitely like an easy desktop means of backing up my SMS messages. I always hate having to lose them when I do a hard reset. Keep up the good work and thank you for your efforts.
Pete,
If you are gauging interest for this app then I, for one, am definitely interested. Looking forward to it, especially the backup facility.
Cheers
WB
SMS manager
Hi,
Peter Foot of inthehand fame is hoping to do something with MMS. So I may be able to extend the Manager to MMS later in the year.
The second alpha release should be by Monday. The xda-orbit guys gave me a big list of "wants" while I was on holiday and I'm working through this before the next release.
If you have any definate requirements (other than the obvious) let me know.
Pete
Just wondering, doesnt SOTI PocketController do all the things you have mentioned from your phone?
You just go to create an SMS when your connected and type it in with your keyboard - the keyboard inputs it on your phone via your computer.
Maybe im missing the point of what your trying to do?
SOTI
Hi
Soti is an excellent tool, I use it all the time.
I agree the functionality I'm offering will be much as you get on the XDA.
But this way you can delete messages off your phone and keep a history on your desktop.
Plus the interface should be quicker and of course much much bigger.
Pete
SMS Manager Alpha release
Hi,
the next alpha release of SMSmanager is here. It's not finished so some things don't work. However, I'd like to get it tested and have some feedback before I go much further.
I have attached a zip file. Unpack it. Copy the cab file to your phone and install it on the device. (not the storage card). I had to do a soft reset on mine before it appeared in programs. Do not start the application.
Then install the desktop application and launch it.
If i've done my job right the desktop application will launch the pocket application and they will start to chatter to each other.
All your texts and contacts should appear on the desktop.
If you have any problems email me
I've tested it on an Orbit and an Exec.
Regards
Pete
Now that is really cool, it crashes alot on vista, but if i stay in the inbox all the sms can be read fine.
there is a strange horizontal bar that i keep managing to grab with the mouse and its only once actually resized anything.
When trying to send a txt i got this error
Unhandled exception has occured in your application
I clicked continue, it crashed
anyhow...this is only the 1st alpha, and you proved it works, if you want me to post the full error i got when sending lemme know,
I can see this app evolving into what has been needed for years
As youve got it setup, ive had nothing to do on the ppc app, can this just be turned into a system tray icon, as we dont really need to see it and some options could be configured there. could it then also close itself when disconnected? after all you only have to open the pc app to connect in again.
10/10 on the concept here tho, very small, very simple, and it kinda works
Will save so much time when im already at a pc that i sync with, ie home machine and work, i have partnerships with both.
I love it!!
Is it possible to make a version that is embedded into Outlook as an extension/addon ?
vista
B***** I thought I had solved the Vista issues. I'll try it later to see what I get. If you email me the errors and any screen dumps it may be uselful
The Pocket pc application will eventually be hidden. I keep it visible at the moment to make sure it's working and to keep an eye on it. If you minimize it it should carry on working.
What xda are you running it on?
Pete
Pete,
I take it that your tool is device independent? If yes I would be happy to test it on a Hermes/Tytn running WM6. Desktop is XP/SP2.
Let me know.
Cheers
WB
Hi
or the last two questions:
Yes I hope to create a pluin for outlook and live.
I have tested it on an xda exec and orbit and my colleagues on other devices.
It's supposed to work on anything but that's what bill gates says.
If you have specific problems let me know.
Pete
Thanks - Outlook extension would be awesome =)
Goodjob and goodluck w/ the updates, will be looking for them!
can I see some pictures
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When i start the desktop-app (XPSP2, Non-Admin), on my phone (Artemis / WM6) your app is starting, but after a few
seconds i get an error. Installed in main memory and softreset already done twice.
i know, this is alpha, so i think this is a good information for you ?
Anyway, this app seems to get a great tool...looking forward to the final release.
Great work, cheers
Next Alpha
Hi
I have added a the ability to place a call from the desktop and new messages are anounced with an icon in the system tray.
I hope to add this week:
1. Create New Folder
2. Create New Contact
3. Send SMS to multiple contacts
Any other requests?
Pete
Seem like a nice software will try it.
But there is jeyo sms extender if you want to dl your sms and send via computer
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I have added a the ability to place a call from the desktop and new messages are anounced with an icon in the system tray.
I hope to add this week:
1. Create New Folder
2. Create New Contact
3. Send SMS to multiple contacts
Any other requests?
Pete
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Pete,
Re te ability to send SMS to multiple contacts, it would be good if the tool could:
- Have the ability to send an sms to multiple contacts by putting ticks agains the names to be included on the sms distribution list, taken off the full list of contacts. What I mean by this is that you would select the names you want to send a message to off a list drawn directly from Contacts by simply putting a tick against selected names.
- Do the same but be able to select a preset distribution list (so I guess the tool needs tha ability for one to be able to create multiple distribution lists and store them for later use).
- Work the other way round, with the ability to send mutiple, differeing sms to a single contact (hope this is not too challenging, from a development standpoint)
- Text sent using this tool must be stored within the Sent box (I have used other tools that don't do this and its a real pain trying to remember what text you sent and to whom).
- Have the ability to move/refile texts into different folders.
if I think of any more I will let you know.
Cheers
WB
Has anyone found a solution to the fact that the contact photos look bad and pixilatted. Cheers
Its a sync issue, there is no fix unfortunately as yet. Hopefully google will sort the issue with their wireless sync, but im not holding my breath. I have put the contacts on my phone then disabled syncing of them. Then I update the photos and its fine.
Hmm...intersting....could you explain how you fixed it in a bit more detail ( I ain't too bright ).
I didn't try to sync them at all...they are all images I've taken with the Hero's phone, at max quality. If anyone calls me and the image comes up - quite frankly it look embarassing
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Are we sure its not the Hero doing a really bad job of compressing them before they leave the handset on their merry way across the internet to GoogleMail ?
I hope so, as this means HTC can do a better job on the thumbnails and make them small enough for syncing.
I synced my contact photo's via Exchange, and they are blurry as well.
So its an HTC bug then. Well at least to stands more chance of it being fixed Can't see Google nor Microsoft fixing their end for HTC.
Just out of interest, is there anyone here who is NOT experiencing this problem?
I have emailed HTC tech support - will post back when I hear back from them.
I haven't experienced pixelated contact photos, only the problem with photos not getting displayed off of Facebook.
So when someone calls you Woobit - you see their contact photo sharp and clear?
Interesting - were they photos taken with your phone or ones you uploaded. Anything specific about them or how you assigned them to your contacts?
cheers
The pics from Facebook on my hero are fine (a little grainier perhaps) its ones from my photo album from imported DSLR images that look awful post syncing.
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The pics from Facebook on my hero are fine (a little grainier perhaps) its ones from my photo album from imported DSLR images that look awful post syncing.
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We are talking about the contact photo which appears when he or she is calling you, or vice versa. How about you?
Well as these images are sourced from either Facebook automatically or hand picked from your photo albums... yes
Images Facebook has provided are of a dramatically better quality than those hand picked from the Albums application when seen in the Phone application (when called or you call).
It appears that once the Hero has synced to Googlemail, the Album sourced 'call' photo will be reduced to looking awful. HTC or Android is munching them up.
The Facebook ones stay pretty clean.
Ok, heres whats happening with me, and this happened on all devices I have used, HTC Touch HD, HTC Touch Pro2, Diamond etc and also the Hero.
Say you have all your contacts initially downloaded from Google and synced with your phone. They all come down, so turn sync off as not needed for contacts anymore.
Link your contacts to Facebook, images all come down, work fine.
1 week later, they are still all fine, good quality, can see the pic when calling.
Now, sync again with Google or Outlook and it sends the pics to the server or to outlook, but then it sends them back to the phone (I presume because the phone thinks they have changed in some way).
When they come back, they are grainy and rubbish, so this is something to do with the sync.
Try it, turn off all syncs and replace some pics with decent pics and they will stay that way, unitil you sync.
Just tried that Nice-Lad.
Turned off all syncing. The re-assigned an image to my contact ( my home phone ). Called myself from my homephone - and the new image popped up looking totally crap as before
BUT... the whole point of syncing as that you can add contacts, calendar events etc on your computer and have them automagically appear on your phone.
Turning it off is a work around 'maybe' but makes contact and event management useless.
HTC need to keep a local cache of images and use these in preference to those it gets back from Google (seemingly messed up by HTC before sending to Google). Facebook ones dynamically change when ever a friend updates their profile picture... these appear not to be affected by the same degree.
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Just tried that Nice-Lad.
Turned off all syncing. The re-assigned an image to my contact ( my home phone ). Called myself from my homephone - and the new image popped up looking totally crap as before
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Ok, it may be as its stored in the cache so won't change. Or, try changing to WIFI and re-assign a totally different image. Could be the mobile network downloading the image with network compression...?
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BUT... the whole point of syncing as that you can add contacts, calendar events etc on your computer and have them automagically appear on your phone.
Turning it off is a work around 'maybe' but makes contact and event management useless.
HTC need to keep a local cache of images and use these in preference to those it gets back from Google (seemingly messed up by HTC before sending to Google). Facebook ones dynamically change when ever a friend updates their profile picture... these appear not to be affected by the same degree.
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Oh yeah, I never said it was ideal, I was just pointing out that its an issue with the Syncing. My contacts are now fine, but I know what you mean when you change a contact, you want it to update in Google or Outlook.
It is very annoying and always has been, it needs fixing. Google are aware of it, I posted a comment on their forum and someone said they were looking at it, but that doesn't usually mean anything.
Would not be as noticable if we didn't have full screen caller display.
My N85 had a nearly as large an image for callers... never a problem on that... I synced with iSync over Bluetooth and
All HTC need to do to get around this is to keep a local copy of each thumbnail and ignore what Google sends back or is created to send to Google... which ever is the case causing the issue.
As a side note... I've noticed all my Facebook contacts that are also in my Mac Address book and therefore in Google contacts (I use Spanning Sync to mediate between all three) have a line of code in the Note section.
Appears that the Hero 'tags' these contacts and inserts the data into the Note field. Both in Google Contacts as well as passing through to my Mac AddressBook.
Like this...
<sn>id:578756042/friendof:706653099</sn>
But only if they have a Facebook profile picture that the Hero has downloaded. Some contacts that must have a privacy setting set in their Facebook profile, have no picture and this no line of code.
Anyone else notice this ?
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So when someone calls you Woobit - you see their contact photo sharp and clear?
Interesting - were they photos taken with your phone or ones you uploaded. Anything specific about them or how you assigned them to your contacts?
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Usually I don't really look at the picture when someone calls me, too busy answering I just had my gf call me so I could study the caller pic, and yeah, it could be better. The picture is synced from her Facebook account, and it taken with a not too expensive cell phone so the picture wasn't too sharp from the get go.
Basiclly: quality could be better, but I find the missing contact pictures more of a problem
woobit, try going to the Albums app and hitting the Facebook tab, mine earlier today (not tried before) grabbed a whole load of Facebook profile pictures that were not grabbed by the People app and its Groups tab.
Also, I think those friends with certain privacy settings will not allow their profile picture outside of Facebook.
I have a few missing but far more than I had prior to using Albums.
Worth a go
UPDATE:
Well I gave up with HTC email support, as they couldn't get their head around the fact that it is NOT a camera issue.
So I rang them, and the chap I spoke to was less then helpful - basically telling me there was no fix, he didn't know if they were working on a fix, and that it was all Google/Androids fault*
He seemed to think the problem was that when you assign an image to a contact, they phone makes a tiny thumbnail that is assigned to the contacts info page ( what you see when you view their details. Then, when that contact rings the phone tries to enlarge the very small image that you see in the contact page - thereby it is pixilated to look at.
Is this a problem with other Android phones? And surely to Christ someone in quality control s supposed to pick up these ( glaring ) errors?!
* This becomes somewhat of a pattern - each blaming the other so they don't have to take responsibility and actually do something.
Google Voice Easy SMS - Send & Auto-Receive SMS free via Google Voice [v2.0, 5/21/10]
Important Announcement:
Hey everyone, thanks for the support over the last year. This app was a great learning experience for me, I enjoyed the challenges it presented and learned a lot in the process.
I've now moved on to and Android device (and if you are able, I encourage you to do the same!). Thus, my development and support are both officially finished. This application is wholly open-source, and if anyone out there wants to pick up where I left off, please do (under the conditions that the app remains open-source and you retain my name as an author).
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After 5 long months of working on it, Google Voice Easy SMS 2.0 is now released to the public, for free, like always! Send and automatically receive Google Voice SMS right on your phone over your data plan!
I've not been able to find a free application for Windows Mobile that allows easy text messaging (SMS) via your Google Voice account. I wanted something easy to use that also pulls from the phone's contacts list. So since I couldn't locate an app that suites these needs, I created one. After all, I’m a broke college student and I want something to give me free outgoing messages. Speaking of being broke, if you like what you see, consider donating via PayPal. After all, I'm probably saving you a good deal of money on a SMS package from your provider! You can do it right from this page on my website:
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Anything at all would be greatly appreciated!
Website & Download Location: http://www.mattslifebytes.com/?cat=7 OR http://tinyurl.com/googVSMS
Please don't mirror the installation file, just link to the above URL. That way current versions get distributed. Thanks!
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Once you have downloaded and installed Easy SMS, you'll need
to enter your Google Account information by going to 'Menu' -> 'Settings' -> 'Google Account Settings'. Fill in the info, then do 'Menu' -> 'Check for Messages'.
New In Version 2.0
Pretty much everything is new!
Easy SMS is now a full suite application. You can both send and receive Google Voice SMS through it for FREE.
All bugs with the old 1.x series have been fixed.
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Easy SMS is completely open-source! Want to have a look? Just click through to my website for the download.
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Windows Mobile based device; software has been tested on versions 6, 6.1, and 6.5, but the program may work with other versions.
.NET Compact Framework 3.5
A Google Voice account
Cellular data plan or WiFi connectivity
If your cellular data plan charges by the kilobyte, be sure to keep track of your usage; this program uses very little bandwidth, but don't try to blame data charges on me
You must abide by the Google Voice terms of service when using this program
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Excellent job!
This is exactly what I've been looking for since I found out google incoming sms could be routed to an email address. Thanks so much!
This gonna work with non-US country?
JaCoL_JcL said:
This gonna work with non-US country?
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Google voice only sends in the USA and accounts are only available to people in the USA so no it's not going to work outside USA.
I like small URLs This is the same as above, just easier to type in
http://tinyurl.com/googVSMS
The app works BEAUTIFULLY BTW
Combining this with the "Swype" keyboard, SMS is so much better now
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I like small URLs This is the same as above, just easier to type in
http://tinyurl.com/googVSMS
The app works BEAUTIFULLY BTW
Combining this with the "Swype" keyboard, SMS is so much better now
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Thank you for the TinyURL, I'll add it to the top post, and I'm glad it's working well for you
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This gonna work with non-US country?
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If Google Voice goes international, I'll try my best to keep it compatible.
I'm currently in the UK (live in Chicago), is there any reason this wouldn't work? I just get a communication error. I thought it woudl just use the data connection?
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I'm currently in the UK (live in Chicago), is there any reason this wouldn't work? I just get a communication error. I thought it woudl just use the data connection?
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Which communication error do you get: bad Google Account username or password, unable to get value of '_rnr_se' key, or unable to send message(s)?
The program tries to open a few URL connections via the OS networking components, and if you have a data connection it really should be working. My only thought is perhaps Google's methods that I am using aren't accessible from outside the USA or something. If that turns out to be the case, I can program a workaround by bouncing the request through my own web server first, that way it originates from a USA IP address.
Can someone send me an invite for google voice please? PM me please
This app looks really cool. Would be great for me because I have a 300 text/month limit.
Thanks for the app. I just want to clarify, this app only send SMS via google voice and incoming text is still received as a regular text, is that correct?
Thanks.
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Thanks for the app. I just want to clarify, this app only send SMS via google voice and incoming text is still received as a regular text, is that correct?
Thanks.
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You are 100% correct.
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You are 100% correct.
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I would like to know if we can send International tex Mesg also for Free ?
has anyone tryed it ?
ilordvader said:
I would like to know if we can send International tex Mesg also for Free ?
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You'd have to find out from the Google Voice support stuff, this program only passes the info from Google and they handle the rest.
thank you so much for this! will test and post my results
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Which communication error do you get: bad Google Account username or password, unable to get value of '_rnr_se' key, or unable to send message(s)?
The program tries to open a few URL connections via the OS networking components, and if you have a data connection it really should be working. My only thought is perhaps Google's methods that I am using aren't accessible from outside the USA or something. If that turns out to be the case, I can program a workaround by bouncing the request through my own web server first, that way it originates from a USA IP address.
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I'm not sure if people would feel comfortable with texts bouncing through a 3rd party, no offense to you or anything...
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I'm not sure if people would feel comfortable with texts bouncing through a 3rd party, no offense to you or anything...
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Certainly none taken, either. But for now it would still help if you could post what type of communication error you are getting though, that's going to be the only way I even can begin to understand the problem :-/
i keep getting the "communication error: unable to send message. try closing the program and re-opening. also be sure this version of Easy SMS is up to date, google might have changed something on their end."
what am i doing wrong?
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i keep getting the "communication error: unable to send message. try closing the program and re-opening. also be sure this version of Easy SMS is up to date, google might have changed something on their end."
what am i doing wrong?
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That error means that the program was able to log you into your Google account and get your authorization key, but when it tries to send the message Google didn't allow the connection.
Can you browse to https://www.google.com/voice/sms/send/ on your mobile device? You should get "Forbidden Error 403". Also where is your physical location currently, and who is your carrier? Thanks.
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That error means that the program was able to log you into your Google account and get your authorization key, but when it tries to send the message Google didn't allow the connection.
Can you browse to https://www.google.com/voice/sms/send/ on your mobile device? You should get "Forbidden Error 403". Also where is your physical location currently, and who is your carrier? Thanks.
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i am in los angeles and im on T-Mobile
when i go to that web page it takes me to the page...it doesnt say forbidden error 403
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i am in los angeles and im on T-Mobile
when i go to that web page it takes me to the page...it doesnt say forbidden error 403
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Also are you on 3G or WiFi connection? Are you roaming? And finally (lol) if I create a debug version would you be willing to run it and let me know how it works out for you?
Does anyone know where the E-Mail account settings files are kept? A replacement phone is scheduled to hit me on Wednesday, and if I can help it, I would prefer not to setup my myriad of e-mail accounts all over again. It sure would be nice if I could just copy them to my computer and copy them back to the replacement phone.
TIA
I solved that problem by forwarding all my email accounts through gmail.
I prefer to have separate accounts, as discussed in posts #11 and #13 of the thread below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27810568#post27810568
xv-6800 said:
I prefer to have separate accounts, as discussed in posts #11 and #13 of the thread below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27810568#post27810568
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So in other words, you can't simply use gmail because its too much hassle to remember to select the correct account to reply from?
I believe most settings info is stored like this:
/data/data/nameofapplication/
What do you mean? The way I have it set up ENABLES me to select the proper account to reply from. Google does not offer this capability.
Regarding the path:
I have a .data folder on the root. Inside that is a nested mail folder which contains nothing but another empty nested folder entitled attachthumb.
Do I need a special app to see what I need to see?
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What do you mean? The way I have it set up ENABLES me to select the proper account to reply from. Google does not offer this capability.
Regarding the path:
I have a .data folder on the root. Inside that is a nested mail folder which contains nothing but another empty nested folder entitled attachthumb.
Do I need a special app to see what I need to see?
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Don't know what you're talking about because i'm using the stock Android AOSP version of the gmail app and I have 5 accounts set up on it and can select which one to reply from. It automatically selects the correct account if I simply hit "reply" from an email, however I can force it to reply from any other of my accounts too. Not all gmail accounts either. I can send mail from my cox.net account directly from the gmail app on my phone.
Anyways, you need a root file explorer. You will go to the "/data/data/" directory, then look for a directory containing the name of your email app (like /data/data/com.google.android.gm/ for gmail, etc)
That directory contains the settings and data from that app. Copy it, place on your new device in the same folder after installing the app on the new device.
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Don't know what you're talking about because i'm using the stock Android AOSP version of the gmail app and I have 5 accounts set up on it and can select which one to reply from. It automatically selects the correct account if I simply hit "reply" from an email, however I can force it to reply from any other of my accounts too. Not all gmail accounts either. I can send mail from my cox.net account directly from the gmail app on my phone.
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I think there may be a misunderstanding here. My phone has 2 apps. One is entitled Mail, the other entitled GMail. The GMail app only allows for GMail accounts. I am using the other Mail app. KZOODROID said he was forwarding his other accounts to a GMail account, which does NOT allow what you and I are doing with the Mail app. Not even logging into GMail via a web browser allows you to do this, because on the web replies still go with GMail text saying "Sent of behalf of..."
FWIW, the Mail app on the phone does NOT select the correct account if you are using your GMail account to POP another account, or you have other accounts set to forward to your GMail account, and those messages are pushed via GMail. In both those instances, when you hit Reply, the reply will be sent via your GMail address. You MUST select the desired account you want to reply from (provided you have it setup in the Mail app), if you want the reply to be seen as being sent from the same address that it was originally sent to.
Now, if you truly are pulling mail from your other non-GMail accounts (or the messages are being pushed from those mail accounts' servers), then yes, when you hit Reply on any of those messages, it's just like hitting reply on a regular mail client on a desktop computer, and the replies take on reply information from the respective mail accounts.
Anyways, you need a root file explorer. You will go to the "/data/data/" directory, then look for a directory containing the name of your email app (like /data/data/com.google.android.gm/ for gmail, etc)
That directory contains the settings and data from that app. Copy it, place on your new device in the same folder after installing the app on the new device.
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I figured as much. Does the root file explorer get installed on a PC, or is it an app you download to the phone, and then use on the phone to copy such values to an SD card?
Any suggestions on which root file explorer?
In the gmail app, hit menu then compose, at the top of the new email is a pull down menu with your @gmail.com account listed first and a down arrow. If you open this menu all your email accounts linked to gmail are listed with the option to send as for any account. I believe you can only add the accounts to gmail from a PC, at least that is how I set it up under the settings button, check mail from other accounts, send mail as, import mail and contacts, its all there. This way you never have to worry about adding multiple accounts again or copy files, its always there from now on.
Root Explorer is an app in the market, cost a buck I think, well worth it. ES File Explorer does the same thing and can connect wirelessly to other devices and is free. I use both.
Edit: calling it forwarding was probably the wrong term to use as you are granting gmail permission to check for email on the other accounts and if it finds new emails it grabs them and pushes them to your phone. You can then repond to them either using the account they came from or with your gmail account as I described above.
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In the gmail app, hit menu then compose, at the top of the new email is a pull down menu with your @gmail.com account listed first and a down arrow. If you open this menu all your email accounts linked to gmail are listed with the option to send as for any account. I believe you can only add the accounts to gmail from a PC, at least that is how I set it up under the settings button, check mail from other accounts, send mail as, import mail and contacts, its all there. This way you never have to worry about adding multiple accounts again or copy files, its always there from now on.
Root Explorer is an app in the market, cost a buck I think, well worth it. ES File Explorer does the same thing and can connect wirelessly to other devices and is free. I use both.
Edit: calling it forwarding was probably the wrong term to use as you are granting gmail permission to check for email on the other accounts and if it finds new emails it grabs them and pushes them to your phone. You can then repond to them either using the account they came from or with your gmail account as I described above.
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Yes, what you're describing must be set up on the PC. And, when you send an e-mail you can select which account you want it to SAY it's being sent from. But, the header on the message will still show your GMail account.
When you grant permission to have GMail check your others accounts, you're telling GMail to "POP" or pull the mail from the other account. Problem is that GMail again puts its "spit" on the message, instead of maintaining the original message header. That becomes a problem for me, and likely others in business, in that because of this, when you reply using the GMail convention of selecting a particular address, the recipient sees plain as day that the message was sent "on behalf of" whatever email address you chose to send from. Not very professional.
But, when you have multiple accounts setup in the AOSP Mail app on the phone, when you choose a different address to reply from, the app actually sends the message from that e-mail account, so the recipient sees only the info from that account, which is the way it should be.
Don't get me wrong, GMail is great for personal use, but when it comes to professional environments, you don't want people you're doing business with to see some generic e-mail address, you want them to see something coming from the company's domain. For example, would rather do business with someone with an e-mail address like [email protected], or [email protected]?
In fact, that's the biggest complaint with GMail and Android in the business world. Not enough native business support. And, that's fine for Google because there are more individuals in the world than companies, meaning more unit sales at higher prices. Problem for people like me is that cell carriers have heavily adopted Google's OS, which right now limits how much we can rely on Android phones in the work place. It's sad, because the hardware is technically awesome these days, and the OS itself has a lot going for it, but it's little things like the mail issue that show much of a babe in the woods Android is in the business world, and that makes it not quite ready for business prime time use... yet! It is getting there, though. Whoever wrote the Mail app is obviously an early business adopter who recognized the need, and as more people start to see things like what I've been able to do with it, albeit it's a workaround, I'm sure more business-savy developers will jump on the wagon, and make it easier to do more things conducive to "business" in the future. The ironic thing is that individuals are the ones driving Android because people with real jobs don't have time to dive in and figure out the workarounds that would show them the potential, you know?
I think Microsoft and a lot of the business world has realized that Google has not done enough to demonstrate an keen interest in the business world, and I predict that at the end of the year when Windows Phone comes back, it will likely come back with a vengeance and address all the stuff Android is lacking at the moment. After all, Microsoft ruled the business world for so long, they know what needs to be done. With the economies suffering, they've been smart not to try to bring something to market in an industry hampered by business spending freezes. But, the time is near.
Anyway, thanks for pointing me to the root file explorers. Will I need to root the phone before being able to use them to save those email account settings, or will they work on an unrooted device since I am only copying files? I ask because I don't want to go to the hassle to root and unroot again since I have to send the phone back to VZW when the new one arrives, does that make sense?
You have to be rooted to access the files using a file explorer.
When I send emails through gmail on my phone using the send as function I'm not getting anything like you are talking about in my emails. They show up as being sent from the account I choose not from gmail. However if you right click the email, select properties then open up details you see that it came from the gmail account but its buried in all the lines of code. And how many people actually do this? My clients that I work with don't really care where an email came from just that I answered. If I worked for a larger company like say Verizon than I could see that it matters but then again I'm not having that problem with gmail it works just as described for me.
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I think there may be a misunderstanding here. My phone has 2 apps. One is entitled Mail, the other entitled GMail. The GMail app only allows for GMail accounts. I am using the other Mail app. KZOODROID said he was forwarding his other accounts to a GMail account, which does NOT allow what you and I are doing with the Mail app. Not even logging into GMail via a web browser allows you to do this, because on the web replies still go with GMail text saying "Sent of behalf of..."
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I don't know what I did, but mine no longer say "sent on behalf of..". I believe it was something I configured on the gmail settings from the website, not from the app on the phone, but the settings have carried over.
If I send email from my cox account, it comes to you from [email protected]. If I send you an email from my work address, it similarly comes from [email protected].
I use the stock gmail app for all emails. I've removed all else, exchange, mail, etc. So I know for a fact that gmail will work the way you want it to, its just been so long since I've set it up that I can no longer tell you what I did.
as far as copying your files from one phone to another, you will need to be rooted, and you will need a file explorer. This is something like ESFile Explorer from the play store. Its installed on your phone, not the computer. You shouldn't need a computer for anything, actually, after you're rooted. All of this stuff can be done with simple apps and your sdcard and your phone(s).
Re: a reply e-mail sent from a different address set up on your GMail account:
I've tested this many times over the the years, as well as again last night. Regardless of whether the message is sent from GMail on the web or the GMail app on the phone, the result is the same, GMail ALWAYS inserts that "on behalf [email protected]". That's part of their marketing strategy, and there is no option to remove that. Period.
If you look at a reply sent in this way in a REAL e-mail program, not a mail applet on your phone or a web browser, you see that statement plain as day. For example, below are 2 snippets of what you see when you view such a message received in Outlook. No right-clicking or anything, I just open the message to read it. One was sent from the GMail app on the phone, the other from GMail via a web browser. You cannot help but see this statement, because that's what Google wants people to see to further their market awareness strategy.
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Let's put this particular issue to bed, shall we? I am not criticizing anyone's use of this "feature". I am simply showing the facts of how it works. If the option works for you, fine. I own multiple companies, and personally, I don't want people to whom I send messages see some gimmick like that on any of my e-mails, nor do I want any of employees sending company messages like that either. And, many businesses obviously feel the same way.
Again, I am not here to criticize users of GMail. The "on behalf [email protected]" is undeniably inserted in any reply sent from a different address set up on your GMail account. The only reason I ended up hijacking my own thread is because someone suggested I use my GMail address for everything, and I stated why I preferred not to. A misunderstanding of the option's behavior came up, and I figured I would show how the option REALLY works so that anyone else who happens upon this thread doesn't get misled by Google.
So back to the original topic of this thread:
Thanks for the info on the file explorers. I think I better just re-enter the email account info again on the new phone. This is a warranty replacement issue, and it's not worth risking something going wrong on the phone being sent back, or Verizon seeing some trace that I modded it. I'm sure they would have no problem blaming me for the original problem with the unit, then sticking me with the cost, which would likely be that so-called phony $600 retail price. :crying:
xv-6800 said:
Re: a reply e-mail sent from a different address set up on your GMail account:
I've tested this many times over the the years, as well as again last night. Regardless of whether the message is sent from GMail on the web or the GMail app on the phone, the result is the same, GMail ALWAYS inserts that "on behalf [email protected]". That's part of their marketing strategy, and there is no option to remove that. Period.
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I use a "real email program", both Outlook 2003 and Windows Live Mail and neither of them show "on behalf of gmail". It only shows the send as email account that I choose. Something is either wrong with the way you set up gmail to use send as or the email program you are using is doing it. Its not a conspiracy by Google as you seem to be the only one having this issue.
I wasn't here to start an argument with you. Check the image in my attachment and tell me if you see a "on behalf of" in there cause I can't find it...
LOL I didn't say it was a conspiracy. And, I doubt I am the "only one" that has this problem. ;-)
Google obvious does it for market awareness, which is understandable. As a company, they SHOULD try to brand everything they can, just like companies do.
Anyway, I used to use Outlook 2003, and am now on 2007. I also checked my GMail settings (again). The only options you have in regards to send as are:
When replying to a message:
Reply from the same address the message was sent to
Always reply from default address
And, I have the first one checked.
I don't want to continuer to beat this dead horse, but out of curiosity, in your Outlook can you see the From field in the spearate section above the message itself?
Aha! I just discovered that on January, 2012, Google added a new option that supposedly addresses the aliasing "on behalf of". Of course, it's not where you would think it is. It was added to the spot where you setup the Send As address to begin with. I will check it out.
If you know how to set up a basic mail server, there's also a simple workaround for you:
1) set up an smtp server, perhaps just in a virtual machine on a home computer, and then create the necessary rules on your router so that you can access it from the web.
2) Configure this smtp server to accept all your various email login credentials and send email from all your various addresses.
3) create a line in your /system/etc/hosts file on your phone to redirect smtp.gmail.com to your IP address at home. Do not modify anything for imap.gmail.com.
4) profit?
This should essentially force anything on your phone that tries to send any email from smtp.gmail.com (mainly the gmail app) to reroute to your own smtp server, which is now configured to send emails from any of your addresses.
xv-6800 said:
Aha! I just discovered that on January, 2012, Google added a new option that supposedly addresses the aliasing "on behalf of". Of course, it's not where you would think it is. It was added to the spot where you setup the Send As address to begin with. I will check it out.
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Now I feel like an ass, I used Windows Live Mail on my laptop to test this, sent emails from all my accounts and never saw anything except the send as address and I never saw the "on behalf of gmail". So for giggles I sent a test message to my work account on Outlook on my desktop and there it was plain as day. Now why does Outlook show it but Windows Live Mail doesn't?
I feel like an ass, too, so don't worry.
When I sent that last message, I went in and set the "no alias" thing, then sent a message, and am STILL waiting for that test reply message to arrive. I wonder if it ever will, now that I set it with the new option.
I should clarify that the new "anti-alias" thing also adds other options, like whether or not you want the reply sent via google's servers or through your own. Problem with sending via your own is that Google only offers certain sending ports, which are different than those which my companies use, and Google only allows you to choose from 3 ports. So, that's useless to me. I opted to use the Google servers, but now I'm not sure if that throws yet another kink into things, because I am STILL awaiting the test message arrival. It's been 30 minutes now. So much for using the new feature for time-sensitive communication, never mind of the message is sent at all! ;-)