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I read through all the threads about the new upgrades, but I have not seen anyone talk about power consumption and battery life.
Can someone who has done the upgrade lay out the differences?
It seems to have improved, but I've done quite a few hard resets and other various testing, so I can't say how much.. But it definitely seems to have improved..
thuggin said:
I read through all the threads about the new upgrades, but I have not seen anyone talk about power consumption and battery life.
Can someone who has done the upgrade lay out the differences?
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About twice a week I have HELL days were the phone gets a work out and tomarrow is one of them.
The old Cingular ROM:
Turn on Phone at 6am-by 12 noon it would be dead, I use a lot of 3G and video streaming.
Tomarrow will be the first hell day since the new ROM, so I will report back tomarrow night and let you know how it goes.
After several days with the new ROM and a full day with the new 1.33 radio it appears that battery life is definitely improved.
I am running radio 1.27 and i can say that with this .rom battery has improved somewhat from what i saw in 1.20.....
The battery life is definitely better on the new ROMs. I'm running 1.27 Radio ROM and with a 3000mah battery my phone last around 10 hours now.
I certainly hope so. I would like to consider myself a power user. I have my push email downloading every 2 minutes. So I am usually dead by 3pm. I hope this will be better under those conditions.
Are people here using the battery saving hacks on the Wiki or are you using the default ROM settings? I have not checked, they might be the same in the new ROM.
I'm only using the default ROM settings.. Minus a few CABs in the extended ROM, but those are mostly things that annoy me anyway (like the Good Email and such)..
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I'm only using the default ROM settings.. Minus a few CABs in the extended ROM, but those are mostly things that annoy me anyway (like the Good Email and such)..
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Has anyone tried the tweaks on the Wiki with this ROM? If so, how much battery asving do you get and what are the possible side effects?
bat life is so much better.... it would almost be dead by 10pm.. not its still over half by 10
i have the rom on my new gene how.its cool man.but my battery work only for 1 hour....and when gprs is on only 25m..this is also happen with ankit 6.5...what is the problems ...i had done battery clibration mentioned in the forum but nothing help.plz tell me..i lose 1% drainage every 1minute......should i buy new one..
It seems to be a battery problem. Try another battery.
Get a new battery.
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i have the rom on my new gene how.its cool man.but my battery work only for 1 hour....and when gprs is on only 25m..this is also happen with ankit 6.5...what is the problems ...i had done battery clibration mentioned in the forum but nothing help.plz tell me..i lose 1% drainage every 1minute......should i buy new one..
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How new is your device???
If it is still within the warranty check with the service center...also try to remove the memory card and try using for some time and monitor the battery status...it happens some times a bad memory card can suck all the power from the device...if it is kinda phone which is older 2 yr or more then get a new battery...hope you find this usefull...
my gene is 18months old.it was good when i had my original wm5..that time i got 2days battery..ok.how costly it is...should i get original or duplicate?
I always recommend original replacements. Sometime ago I lost a cell phone because of a fake battery.
I do not think duplicate batteries are worth it. They never ever give you performance (as a matter of fact, their performance will be most likely worse than your existing battery ).
BTW can you try Pro User's ROM? And give us a feed back? The Gene is a very complex device (thanks to HTC ). All are Gene, but all are different, some issues come with some devices, while they are totally non existent in other phones. If you are reading the forum for some time, I hope you understand what I mean. BTW, if I am not wrong, Battery should be around INR 2000/-.
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my gene is 18months old.it was good when i had my original wm5..that time i got 2days battery..ok.how costly it is...should i get original or duplicate?
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did you try using the phone after removing the memory card?is the battery draining at 1% every minute even after removing the memory card??
@saurabh: Try Krazy prousers ROM V2R3. Earlier also a discussion happended on battery issue. May go thru the thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=487374
hey strange but after removing 4gb kingston card i got 5 hrs battery at 42%charged...so u r right about bad memory card...any helpful solution for that thing
buy a new SD
hi
may be ur SD is gone bad or some thing or try buying a 2GB sd maybe another brand like transcend im using this 2GB and its not affecting my battery
and note when u use things like the M2D it drains battery so try sumits pro users im sure by my experience that ur battery performance will improve
goodluck
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hey strange but after removing 4gb kingston card i got 5 hrs battery at 42%charged...so u r right about bad memory card...any helpful solution for that thing
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hey strange but after removing 4gb kingston card i got 5 hrs battery at 42%charged...so u r right about bad memory card...any helpful solution for that thing
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cool man....try to use the phone without the mem card for a few days so that you would know for sure if it was the memory card...when you know for sure then you can buy a new SD...good luck man...
And if you like WM 6.5 Try the new Pro Users WM 6.5 Edition, you will love the battery life it gives. With Pro Users WM 6.1 I was getting about 2-2.5 days backup, now i am getting 3.5 to 4 days! whoa! Thats super cool for a smartphone.
thanks for quickly reply and making life easier.thanks a lot.... but another question of about downgrading to my original wm5 which i had dumped...so what's ur guidance for me....plz help....and how can i do it?
4 days????
hi
im really u get 4 days man the best i get is around 2 days max but then im a heavy user i also dont have a land line so all calls official and personal on this phone only
or may be u don't use ur phone as much as me
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And if you like WM 6.5 Try the new Pro Users WM 6.5 Edition, you will love the battery life it gives. With Pro Users WM 6.1 I was getting about 2-2.5 days backup, now i am getting 3.5 to 4 days! whoa! Thats super cool for a smartphone.
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yes Haree,while using pro6.5 maximum battery life for me is 2 days ,i don't know how Sumit's gene is giving 4 days backup.
@Hari and Rakesh : Yes i am not a very heavy phone user, on gene particularly. It is for official purpose only. For other battery busting tasks, i use a nokia 1600 But i use my touch screen too much, more than anybody of you, due to always searching for new registry tweaks, analyzing system files, internet browsing, email checking, etc. Other than this i use my phone for listening to songs with AudioBooster ON for 1.5 hours everyday (I am quiet a bhajan fan, i find them very soothing, so i listen to them everyday strange for a tech guy, isn't it? But thats the way I am, a little different ). Plus about 1-2 hours of bluetooth on mode. I am gettting 3.5 to 4 days with all this
hey i got new battery cost 1500ru..and i want to ask one question.i always download from net at night..putiing my phone with charger..so is it safe way?plz give me some guidance about hiw to and when to charge battery
Yes its safe. But over time, if you don't calibrate your battery for long time, the first battery bar will start to go down fast. So make sure you re-calibrate your battery at least a month. To do that, follow these steps :
1. Discharge phone completely using games, music, videos etc and then take battery out.
2. Press and hold the power button for 30 seconds.
3. Put back the battery but don't turn on the phone.
4. Charge it in switched off condition, until the power LED becomes green.
5. Restart the phone now.
Thats it
thanks
thanks for reply
Okay, I haven't used my Hermes as a phone (since it's near to impossible to get a SIM-card in Japan), but now I got one and I noticed the battery drain really quickly. I can't even have it one for one day, but I used to have it on for two days before I had to recharge, and then I had beam and bluetooth running. So I need a new radio.
The question I have is, I have CRC's latest stable, flashed on a Swedish device. Can I flash any radio? (That's listed in the wiki) I've flashed ROM's and I figure the procedure is pretty much the same, but I can't find if I can use any radio? My operator i SoftBank if that's any help. Will this affect SoftBanks special text-service? (Mails instead of SMS, a real pain to get it working)
While we're at it, anyone got a recommendation for Tokyo? What I have now is 1.07.01.10.
Thanks for you patience! Please don't kill me, I just don't want to do something bad.
If you have HardSPL installed, flashing Radio ROMs is pretty safe, provided you do that from an SD card and not via a USB cable. Just avoid 1.54.x radios as they're known to be dangerous to the radio hardware. It's also a good idea to read the corresponding thread before flashing the radio ROM - people frequently provide their feedback as for stability, reception quality and power consumption.
P.S. They say 1.47.30.00 is quite good power consumption-wise.
Man, more 1.54.xx.xx bashing... I don't know why its said that 1.54.xx.xx is dangerous, I've been using here in Australia for as long as its been available. Never had a problem with the radio... I have 2 Hermes and they are both running 1.54.30.10.
Maybe it has a problem if the provider doesn't support it...
Anyway, if you know anyone in Japan with a Hermes, see what radio they're running... Unless one of our members knows what radio it is they use over there...
Cheers...
Thanks for your replies!
I tried the 1.47.30.00 and it's just as power hungry as the one I used before. Battery is now down at 43 % after 5 hours (completely charged in the beginning) and I haven't even really used it. I have to use 3G since GSM doesn't exist in Japan, which of course is a battery drainer, but come on... This won't last a day! Could be the battery since it's a fairly old phone (a year or two, not sure), but without the phone on it lasted easily two days with music running around 5 hours per day and some other daily use (looking up in dictionary, taking notes, etc).
Unfortunately as you said, 3G is a power eater... You might think about getting an extended life battery, 1500Mah or possibly a 3000Mah battery. Just remember though that the larger the battery the bigger the size and the heavier your Hermes gets...
Cheers...
Once again, thanks for your reply!
But is this drastical drop off battery time normal? I mean, it has more than halfed! The other normal phones I've had, worked atleast week one a full charge, using 3G, and the last one had a 880 Mah battery.
It's probably more convenient for me to carry an extra phone than using a bigger battery, cheaper and easier to find. >.<
I found an enabled data-connection setting in the Comm Manager that hadn't been disabled before. After a few hours of testing it would seem that the batterylife has greatly improved, but haven't done any real testing yet. Strange thing is, if I disable this Data Connection and leave the Comm Manager open, it will enable itself. But if I quit fast enough it's disable.
But what is it? I'm using a prepaid phone with no possiblities to access an internet connection with 3G, 3G is phone only. (And SoftBanks very strange text service)
I have an almost new HTC HD2. I am testing various ROMs and radios to find the reason for why is my HD2 going through battery so quick.
At this point I am with HD2O v18 ROM and 2.15.50 radio. This is the best combo for me so far in terms of battery use. Even so, my phone, with everything but 2G turned of, I'm getting 38-39mA. With turned on screen with brightness on auto, and everything else turned of except 2G, I'm getting 100-130mA. This all seems to much to me.
I also sometimes boot AmeriCanAndroid from SD card, and there it's even worse. 60mA on standby and 120-140 on everything off but auto screen brightness.
Any ideas?
What kind of battery consumption are you getting?
i had problem like this when i used wm6.5 but then i flashed Nexus rom on nand and the bettery is good as stand by i leave it for 3 days without charging or some thing like that and every thing is fine ... give it a shoot http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905060
Thank you for your time and advice. I'll keep it in mind. But for now, I'd like to stick to WM, and solve the drain problem. Android doesn't suite me.
you welcome man,
hahaha i thought android wouldn't suite me too in the first because im wm freak, but then i found android really good .... if only microsoft didn't stop supporting it
I'm coming from Android on SE x10 which I have been using for four months. And when I say it doesn't suit me, I'm being very mild.
Anywayz, it's better to stick to the original subject. Another thing just came to my mind. Could an old SIM cause battery drain issues in standby? I have a first generation SIM dating to 1998 or 1999. SIM from last millenium.
I read somewhere that old SIMs can cause trouble on modern phones...
hahaha i don't know, first time i hear about the SIM and battery thing ... anyway good luck man solving the problem ... and when it solved let me know what was the reason
Just like I thought, the 12 years old SIM was a problem. Today I got the new SIM, and voila; 4mA on standby, I'm really surprised that nobody thought of this earlier. Not even HTC customer service.
So advice for everyone out there; if your phones have high battery drain on all ROMs/Radios, before anything else, check your SIM. And this applies to all modern phones, not just HD2. I had the same problem with SE X10.
I had the same issue when i used sd card and different android bults even nexu's and I also have a ancient sim.
The drain with the sd was 60mA in standby and more that 200mA with great spikes in normal use.(winmo 6.5 in nand)
Since I made a clean Nand install with NexusGingerbread current in standby is from 4 to 8 mA and in use about 160mA.
So if you ever decide to go in android better have a nand install.
HD2 is a great phone and i think that it is limited with stock os.
it's a common problem, it happens at random when you use WinMo a bit before running android.
use something like exceller's multi build loader, and set it to auto launch at the desired time (even 10-15 seconds work) and this problem should go away.
I also noticed that my battery consumption goes high on some build when using these apps:
setCPU (I know, strange!)
circle launcher
perfect viewer (sometimes, and only when it's running in the background, an app killer solves this)
I can't think of any other app. so if the above methd doesn't work, try to uninstall these apps if you have them one by one, reboot (turn off then on) after each uninstallation and try the phone for a few hours.
Normally, standby consumption shouldn't be higher than 15 mA/h and most of the time it should be lower than 10.
pretty much based on size and its waterproof feature. I do a lot of hunting, fishing and snowmobiling. I primarily plan to use this device for GPS and mapping and wondering if I can rely on it in favor of my Garmin Dakota 20. There's not much on the web that addresses its capabilities in this specific manner. Will I be disappointed? Are there specific ROMS available that might improve my experience in using the device in this manner? I'd obviously be interested in optimal battery life. I did order a couple of spare 1800mAh batteries and standalone charger in hopes of getting me through a solid day on the trail.
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pretty much based on size and its waterproof feature. I do a lot of hunting, fishing and snowmobiling. I primarily plan to use this device for GPS and mapping and wondering if I can rely on it in favor of my Garmin Dakota 20. There's not much on the web that addresses its capabilities in this specific manner. Will I be disappointed? Are there specific ROMS available that might improve my experience in using the device in this manner? I'd obviously be interested in optimal battery life. I did order a couple of spare 1800mAh batteries and standalone charger in hopes of getting me through a solid day on the trail.
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There are some roms, who improve battery life, don't know about gps. But if you install another rom, you will void your warranty and you won't be able to flash the specific original rom for your region, cause for most devices there's only the generic rom to flash (shouldn't be a problem if you have to take it to service, just that you know)...
If you want to use the active instead of your garmin, you will have to find a very good navigation app, because as I think, you need something for area where are no streets, too. And most navigation apps haven't got this feature...
I have an active myself. If you want to keep it down to it's basic functions (which is basically already set as an outdoors device) i would suggest that you don't upgrade to ics and keep the original gingerbread software which has far less battery draining than any ics based rom. About the GPS, i used it severalk times for travbelling and never for tracking so don't know how it works in deep thick woods, but always had speedy lock on and precise navigation. Unlike above user stated most navigation (one with offline maps would probably be best) apps are for trekking and offraod activities, what you can do is modify your gps.conf file to make it specific to your region or area so satellite lock time will be much improved. Just search the forum for gps speed fixes, there's also a patch for agps to help increase satellite locking time.
I own this phone and wanted to do the same as you.
All setups i tried were not stable. sometimes the external power cable got disconnected, sometimes just the app closed.
after months of testing, i reverted to gamin products as they offer a much more rugged and robust hardware. I never managed to track > 20 hours on my active-phone.
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Thanks for all of your input folks.
I did receive the phone on Friday and had a chance to check it out over the weekend. My first impression is that it has a comfortable size and mass to it and I do not mind the screen size at all. It seems quite speedy and the (Gingerbread) OS operates like butter. I did have difficulty getting the GPS function to lock at first. After prolonged attempts, it wasn't until I installed an app called GPS Test did it finally lock - not quite sure what the difference was, perhaps AGPS may have been responsible. Since then however, I have been attempting to maintain GPS-only locating as I am certain that data would not be available in the majority of my usage areas. I looked at most of the GPS Mapping/Tracking apps and settled on the paid version of AlpineQuest - excellent app. I got my waypoints from my Garmin loaded onto my SD card and was quickly navigating the trails in the woods behind my house. Great stuff!
I got just over 8hrs of solid use out of the first charge on the stock battery, so the phone should keep up with a full day on the trails. I have also ordered a couple of spare batteries and standalone charger for backup. Since this first day of use, I have been using the GPS Test app exclusively to verify my satellite lock prior to using AlpineQuest. I did notice that after prolonged non-usage or following a charge cycle I did have some difficulty locking on to the satellites, however each time it was solved with a phone reboot - after which the GPS Test app would lock on within seconds (even inside the house). Each time I was in airplane mode with WiFi off. I will have to monitor the satellite locking for consistency before I am all in with this device but so far I am quite please with its (stock) performance.
the phone & the user may be active, but the battery is certainly not. the display is not that bright under bright sunlight situations :X
hi, i have the active as well and so far i am pretty satisfied.. not VERY satisfied due to Battery life.. but without that issue, I am satisfied...
I have dropped this baby 4 times already on concrete (2 waist level 2 chest level) and the phone just bounced without any cracked screen (it does have some dents on the silver lining around the screen though), but i can guarantee that this phone is shock proof because on those 4 times, the phone did not even turn-off or restart or even battery breaking out from its case...
I do not do trails but so far, the NavFree app has been very good to me with my driving direction needs... easy locking with GPS and pretty good directions...
Try also searching for build.prop tweaks in the development area of this forum because i think it can help in the phone's performance and a little bit of battery life.. i can do intermittent non-heavy image/flash website surfing and the battery could last more than 8 hours and if I just have my phone on stand by (just waiting for messages and calls and reply to them) battery could last more than 24 hours...
I have to ask you though, were those 1800 batteries better than the 1200 ? I was also thinking of buying spares...
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I have to ask you though, were those 1800 batteries better than the 1200 ? I was also thinking of buying spares...
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I haven't got them yet, but these are the one's I ordered.
I'm on the .62 build so looks like I have to flash an earlier firmware just to get root. I'd really like to get rid of some of this extra crap and get link2sd going. If you are rooted, what firmware are you running? I just hope the GPS performs just as well on an earlier build.
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I haven't got them yet, but these are the one's I ordered.
I'm on the .62 build so looks like I have to flash an earlier firmware just to get root. I'd really like to get rid of some of this extra crap and get link2sd going. If you are rooted, what firmware are you running? I just hope the GPS performs just as well on an earlier build.
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you have to tell me if you notice some increase in battery life with those 1800's...
regarding rooting, i followed this procedure with no problem: http://talk.sonymobile.com/message/241059
just follow it step by step.. also, if you are not aware, you have to flash the kernel using the flashtool before you can flash the rom through CWM.... in anyway, you should not be afraid of bricking your phone because I was able to always restore my phone through that link's procedure.. however, pls do not take my word on it because what works for me might not work for you even if we have the same phone... we still might have a different stock.. so rooting your phone is always at your own risk (my disclaimer, hehehe)...
regarding rom, i find the free experia rom's quite good... after initial loading of the rom, i got more than 400mb free internal space.. so they did remove a lot of bloated apps that you dont really use...
just as side note: i installed cm10 fxp138 on my active and the battery lasts for 36hours and more. i really like 4.1 jb.
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OK, so I am rooted and remain locked. I ended up flashing stock 4.0.2.A.0.42 and then this ROM:
ROM][GB][ALL MDPI] HASA v5 [2.3.7][27/9/12]
My prayers have been answered! This ROM is fast and lean! Thanks very much to sandy7 for his work on this! I followed his instructions exactly as in his first post, however did not need to install the revised camera lib as I had no issues with the camera. I've had absolutely zero issues and love the speed.
Now for the battery life. I finally got the spare batteries I mentioned in the previous post (shipped from China). My initial observation is that these batteries smoke the stock one by a large margin. I still need to spend a little more time on this ROM to be certain. As mentioned before, my goal is to replace my standalone GPS unit with this phone. I am not using phone or data, so I am in airplane mode all the time. I am using wifi a bit. With the stock battery I got about 1 day and 12 hours of standby and light use on wifi and gps with 10% remaining. On the replacement battery I got 3 days and 16 hours with 35% remaining before I decided to try the stock battery again. The stock battery began to drain as soon as I put it in and was down to 85% within the first hour. I don't know, perhaps these stock batteries are junk? I am open to suggestions on how to properly do a test and comparison.
omg.. really? so those china batteries work for you? damn.. I want those.. i will buy those..