Yesterday i tried the new modaco rom and was amazed by the speed unfortunatly i'd have to reinstall everything else so i restored the premade nandroid backup..
Has anyone experiences with a good backup application on the Hero ? Currently i'm thinking about using the App Manager + Handy Backup (free apps from Android Market) but i'm afraid that some data could be missing..
greetz rivak
I've not tried Handy.
I can confirm that neither MyBackupPro nor Backup for Root Users correctly backup/restore the HTC Sense UI stuff, so you will lose all your home screen customisations.
AppManager will backup apps, but only free ones, not paid/protected ones. I'm not aware of anythign that does, but of course you could just copy the apk files manually.
I'n not aware of an app that correctly backs up app *settings* either, but would love to know of one.
I tried Sprite, but its restore actually failed to complete. I didn't have time to play with it, so got a refund.
I can imagine the difficulty of writing an app to backup "settings" for ROM changes, as different ROM could have different adjustable settings...
I hope that HTC could provide us some app to back up settings within their apps, or allow us to export those settings (e.g. exporting saved custom Sense)
cdmackay said:
AppManager will backup apps, but only free ones, not paid/protected ones. I'm not aware of anythign that does, but of course you could just copy the apk files manually.
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AppManager will backup paid apps - it is only protected ones that it can't do. Since many paid apps are protected, the distinction is minor, but it is worth pointing out.
However, since the Market remembers your paid apps anyway, it is a rather moot point, since paid apps are generally very easy to recover directly from the Market. I use AppManager to backup and restore all the free apps that I use, as it saves me (a) having to remember what I installed and (b) hunting round for them on the Market.
Regards,
Dave
foxmeister said:
AppManager will backup paid apps - it is only protected ones that it can't do. Since many paid apps are protected, the distinction is minor, but it is worth pointing out.
However, since the Market remembers your paid apps anyway, it is a rather moot point, since paid apps are generally very easy to recover directly from the Market. I use AppManager to backup and restore all the free apps that I use, as it saves me (a) having to remember what I installed and (b) hunting round for them on the Market.
Regards,
Dave
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But does the restore really work flawless with free apps? i made the experience with many wm phones and different backup apps like sprite backup, that you will nearly always have some kind of minor bugs after restoring data (especially if you made a FW update). Thats why i resorted in setting up everything manually again, which is the cleanest way to setup a newly updates device. So is using appmanager for restoring apps really safe?
Well, thus far I've not had a problem with any apps that I restored using AppManager. Essentially all it does is copy the APKs to to the SD card, and reinstalls them when you restore. Therefore, I don't see any reason why they shouldn't work just as well as redownloading from the market, since that is just going to download and install the same APK.
Regards,
Dave
foxmeister said:
AppManager will backup paid apps - it is only protected ones that it can't do. Since many paid apps are protected, the distinction is minor, but it is worth pointing out.
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indeed yes, apols; I've blurred this distinction before, too
foxmeister said:
However, since the Market remembers your paid apps anyway, it is a rather moot point, since paid apps are generally very easy to recover directly from the Market.
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Well, it's easy, yes, but also rather tedious if you've got dozens of paid apps, as you'd have to re-installed each one individually.
Anyway, the latest Root Explorer can now copy around entire directory hierarchies, so I'll just use that to take a copy of the protected apk files, and restore them after.
there is one major drawback to those backup apps:
after restoring all apps the android market doesn't recognize those installled apps, and therefore there i had no easy overview of app update notes.
but since this is an important feature i had to reinstall everything from the market again, so i can see in the download list if my apps have got any updates...
so while app manager did work, this drawback makes it unusable for me sadly...
Note that aTrackDog gives similar functionality, so that is at least a workaround.
Backup for root users claims to backupt the Market DB, and it did seem to work a bit, in that some, but not all, of my non-paid apps show as installed. Odd.
Another huge problem with AppManager, I'vejust found, is when you use it to re-install 100-odd apps: you still have to answer two prompts for each one (OK & Done).
Since it doesn't even result in the Market DB being correctly updated, you might as well just copy the apk files en masse, using Root Explorer. I would do that in future.
cdmackay said:
Note that aTrackDog gives similar functionality, so that is at least a workaround.
Backup for root users claims to backupt the Market DB, and it did seem to work a bit, in that some, but not all, of my non-paid apps show as installed. Odd.
Another huge problem with AppManager, I'vejust found, is when you use it to re-install 100-odd apps: you still have to answer two prompts for each one (OK & Done).
Since it doesn't even result in the Market DB being correctly updated, you might as well just copy the apk files en masse, using Root Explorer. I would do that in future.
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root explorer sounds like you need a rooted device for it. correct?
Shahpur.Azizpour said:
root explorer sounds like you need a rooted device for it. correct?
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yes, that's right; the easiest way is to install the MoDaCo custom ROM, which currently includes the new 2.0 HTC release, too
cdmackay said:
yes, that's right; the easiest way is to install the MoDaCo custom ROM, which currently includes the new 2.0 HTC release, too
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do you mean the FW update by htc 2.0? i did the update using the RUU - no need for rooting...
Shahpur.Azizpour said:
do you mean the FW update by htc 2.0? i did the update using the RUU - no need for rooting...
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No, not quite. the MoDaCo custom ROM is based on HTC's 2.0, but is already rooted, so you can run root explorer, and other apps needing root, directly. It also has lots of other tweaks. You *do* need root to run Root Explorer.
Unfortunately, if you've installed the HTC RUU, you've also likely been installed a new bootloader which has removed your ability to boot custom recovery images, and so removed your ability to gain root in the future. The MoDaCo ROM does not include the new bootloader (which is not otherwise required).
But all is not lost: apparently you can use a tool called "flashrec" to restore the old bootloader... lots more detail at the MoDaCo site.
Does Backup for Root work then other than missing a few apps?
Seemed ok for me, other than:
- not backing up protected apps, even thought it could
- not backing up the HTC Sense UI desktop, folders, etc.
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Seemed ok for me, other than:
- not backing up protected apps, even thought it could
- not backing up the HTC Sense UI desktop, folders, etc.
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Sounds promising...were you using the latest version? Noticed the dev saying was aware of bugs on latest version, and suggesting may be better to use the old version.
Thanks
Phil
yup, latest version. I think those comments are a rejoinder to some others commenting that it had wiped all their data. I've had no problems, and those comments looked a little unlikely to me.
But a nandroid backup is always a good safety measure, before trying anything
backing up SMS and Email
How can you backup all SMS and email so that you re-install them with all threads correct if you change the ROM?
P!
SMS yes; there are several backup tools around; I used SMS Backup for Root.
email: my email is Gmail-based, so no need to backup, as it's not stored on the phone.
Related
Last market 3.1.3 for installing in OR. For me it's more comfortable then apk because it's system application
Work without any problems on all versions of CM including CM6.3.0-RC3. Also it must work on any our ROM
Do you have an update to make the marker back to the old one froyo uses? The new one is very slow and I don't like it. Titanium backup doesn't work.
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You should be able to use TB to restore the old market. Are you using Free or Paid version b/c free only allows 1 backup. I don't like the new Market either and use TB to restore 2.3.6. I am at work, so I can't upload anything but if no one does it by tonight or tomorrow, I'll get it in here for you.
eejin2 said:
Do you have an update to make the marker back to the old one froyo uses? The new one is very slow and I don't like it. Titanium backup doesn't work.
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You can reinstall the update gapps-hdpi-20101114-signed..you may remove the system apps you don't need from the folder system/app..or you can use this update (see attachment), which is gapps without many system apps I personally always delete. Before using it check if some you may need are missing.
bagongs said:
You can reinstall the update gapps-hdpi-20101114-signed..you may remove the system apps you don't need from the folder system/app..or you can use this update (see attachment), which is gapps without many system apps I personally always delete. Before using it check if some you may need are missing.
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Well, it depends on which ROM. CM6 uses the gapps update but I don't think the others do.
Another way to get the ROM's original market is to use Yaffs Explorer to browse your nandroid backups.
Here is the old market. Flashing it will replace your existing market. First remove any market updates. Then delete all market data and then flash this.
Backup first.
sileshn said:
Here is the old market. Flashing it will replace your existing market. First remove any market updates. Then delete all market data and then flash this.
Backup first.
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thanks sileshn! it worked. i had to uninstall the new market through TB though. should i also uninstall market updater so i dont get updated back to the new one?
eejin2 said:
thanks sileshn! it worked. i had to uninstall the new market through TB though. should i also uninstall market updater so i dont get updated back to the new one?
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It has a modified MarketUpdater.apk which disables updates for the market app. It worked for me on my SGSII.
personally speaking, i prefer much more the stock market included in CM roms than the new version
i do like the filters option in the new version, but it runs so slow, even on my Nexus S
so, it's not only a thing of the phone, is the Market app itself, it has become too broad
Been reading/researching for the last week or two; and the solid info keeps leading me back here to xda!
As a long time personal system builder with some OC'ing experience and flight sim beta testing, I'm starting my trek to the dark side of these android phones.
Just upgraded the wife from an original razr to the X2, and she's perfectly happy. I'm waiting on Santa for a new Droid Razr. So, my plan is to get started on the X2 with the goal of rooting it, then immediately doing a backup using Moon Shadow's excellent stickys along with the help of anyone else that wishes to post. Thinking the X2 experience should help to calm my nerves once I really get into the Razr.
Couple of questions that are sticking in my mind right now are:
Am I understanding the stickys correctly that I should be doing the nandroid backup immediately after rooting? This includes backing up before installing any optional apps such as TI, etc?
In Moon Shadow's Nandroid and Backup Recovery, it's recommended to use Dropbox to get the Recovery APK over on the phone and installed. Any other methods that will work equally well? Would a simple copy/paste of the APK to the sd card suffice? Or would I at least need some sort of apk "installer" to finish the install?
Also, any other apps to keep this X2 lean and clean so as to make it as simple and pain free as possible for the wife? She likes simple/easy to use. I'll be providing tech support and keeping it as optimal as possible.
I'll close this long ass post with a simple THANK YOU to all the members/devs here on xda for tolerating us "noobs" and providing a wealth of info for those wishing to learn the "right" way!
A nandroid is a good idea after rooting imo. Although you can always sbf back to stock if need be. The reason it's a good idea is if you are going to remove stock apps yourself, you can restore back to stock rooted if you remove something important that screws up your phone.
You can copy/paste the apk to your sdcard, no problem. You'll want a file browser to get to it and install. Personally I like Root Browser, Root Explorer, or Astro. You should be able to install through any of those.
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WVULTRA said:
Been reading/researching for the last week or two; and the solid info keeps leading me back here to xda!
As a long time personal system builder with some OC'ing experience and flight sim beta testing, I'm starting my trek to the dark side of these android phones.
Just upgraded the wife from an original razr to the X2, and she's perfectly happy. I'm waiting on Santa for a new Droid Razr. So, my plan is to get started on the X2 with the goal of rooting it, then immediately doing a backup using Moon Shadow's excellent stickys along with the help of anyone else that wishes to post. Thinking the X2 experience should help to calm my nerves once I really get into the Razr.
Couple of questions that are sticking in my mind right now are:
Am I understanding the stickys correctly that I should be doing the nandroid backup immediately after rooting? This includes backing up before installing any optional apps such as TI, etc?
In Moon Shadow's Nandroid and Backup Recovery, it's recommended to use Dropbox to get the Recovery APK over on the phone and installed. Any other methods that will work equally well? Would a simple copy/paste of the APK to the sd card suffice? Or would I at least need some sort of apk "installer" to finish the install?
Also, any other apps to keep this X2 lean and clean so as to make it as simple and pain free as possible for the wife? She likes simple/easy to use. I'll be providing tech support and keeping it as optimal as possible.
I'll close this long ass post with a simple THANK YOU to all the members/devs here on xda for tolerating us "noobs" and providing a wealth of info for those wishing to learn the "right" way!
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First I'd just like to say welcome. You're in for a good time. Nandroids are just good to keep as a refference point so that if your phone gets messed up you can just restore the backed up image vs having to sbf, reroot etc. You are more than welcome to install any apps you would like before a nandroid backup but I recommended doing it before you flash anything or start making modifications that require root permissions.
As far as the recovery Apk is concerned, I just keep it on my external SD, that way I can just find it with root explorer or a similar directory app and install it from there. Very simple. There is no installer app needed, just turn on the setting that allows third party apps, select it within the directory and you should be given the option to install.
Not really sure what you need to keep everything simple. Maybe some specifics would help. I could suggest looking into different Widgets so you can have access to certain things right on the homescreen.
Glad to see you here!
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I do nand backups regularly and delete the old(usually keep 2 most recent just in case) to keep up to date and before changing roms or updating. you can also restore just the data if you go into Advanced Restore and choose data restore as long as your previous rom you did the backup on and the current rom you are restoring it to are on the same version (2.2.2, 2.3.3, 2.3.4, 2.3.5+ are all different). Its typically not required to restore when updating although some roms will in earlier testing stages sometimes or if a drastic change occurs to the rom but its a good idea to back it up prior just in case.
As far as apk files are concerned the easiest way for me to keep them is emailed to myself through gmail because you can install the app straight from your email without having to download it to the phone(there will be an install button in the body of the email when checking it from your phone). You can email them to yourself on the computer and move them to a special file to save space on your internal or external sd and keep the files for whenever you might need them.
As far as "keeping it clean"...just flash a clean rom and choose a script you can find and read about in the development section that will tailor your needs best. in my opinion apps that are made to save battery, free memory, and keep programs from running only make the phone slower and use more battery because those types of apps will always be running and therefore counterproductive. There are some good root apps out(search "root" on market) that help out a good deal, but they are few and far between imo. Just find what you like(or she likes), the more you find out about these phones the more uses you find in it.
Good luck
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A nandroid is a good idea after rooting imo. Although you can always sbf back to stock if need be. The reason it's a good idea is if you are going to remove stock apps yourself, you can restore back to stock rooted if you remove something important that screws up your phone.
You can copy/paste the apk to your sdcard, no problem. You'll want a file browser to get to it and install. Personally I like Root Browser, Root Explorer, or Astro. You should be able to install through any of those.
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hitman:
Yes, at this point I'd prefer to restore back to stock rooted vs. sbf; and it's good to know I've got both as options.
Right now leaning towards Root Explorer.
Thanks for your feedback!
CadenH said:
First I'd just like to say welcome. You're in for a good time. Nandroids are just good to keep as a refference point so that if your phone gets messed up you can just restore the backed up image vs having to sbf, reroot etc. You are more than welcome to install any apps you would like before a nandroid backup but I recommended doing it before you flash anything or start making modifications that require root permissions.
As far as the recovery Apk is concerned, I just keep it on my external SD, that way I can just find it with root explorer or a similar directory app and install it from there. Very simple. There is no installer app needed, just turn on the setting that allows third party apps, select it within the directory and you should be given the option to install.
Not really sure what you need to keep everything simple. Maybe some specifics would help. I could suggest looking into different Widgets so you can have access to certain things right on the homescreen.
Glad to see you here!
Sent from my DROID X2 using xda premium
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CadenH:
Thanks for the welcome. Truly appreciated!
Glad to hear the simplified procedure for installing the apk. I'm sure once I get it rooted, and a solid backup saved, I'll take some time to evaluate what to add app wise along with the Widgets.
xerotix said:
I do nand backups regularly and delete the old(usually keep 2 most recent just in case) to keep up to date and before changing roms or updating. you can also restore just the data if you go into Advanced Restore and choose data restore as long as your previous rom you did the backup on and the current rom you are restoring it to are on the same version (2.2.2, 2.3.3, 2.3.4, 2.3.5+ are all different). Its typically not required to restore when updating although some roms will in earlier testing stages sometimes or if a drastic change occurs to the rom but its a good idea to back it up prior just in case.
As far as apk files are concerned the easiest way for me to keep them is emailed to myself through gmail because you can install the app straight from your email without having to download it to the phone(there will be an install button in the body of the email when checking it from your phone). You can email them to yourself on the computer and move them to a special file to save space on your internal or external sd and keep the files for whenever you might need them.
As far as "keeping it clean"...just flash a clean rom and choose a script you can find and read about in the development section that will tailor your needs best. in my opinion apps that are made to save battery, free memory, and keep programs from running only make the phone slower and use more battery because those types of apps will always be running and therefore counterproductive. There are some good root apps out(search "root" on market) that help out a good deal, but they are few and far between imo. Just find what you like(or she likes), the more you find out about these phones the more uses you find in it.
Good luck
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xerotix:
From my reading/research I have it burned to memory to always stay with the same version when restoring! Her X2 is currently on 2.3.4 via the OTA update.
Good idea on using the gmail account! Had no idea this way was an option.
Once I get over the initial shock of getting it rooted and backedup, I'm sure I'll look at a custom ROM if she allows it. Just need to do additional research on how to choose the right ROM for her needs. And right now, I'm totally in the dark on choosing a "script"; but I'll also learn this as I go.
Thanks for your feedback!
Preliminary Game Plan
At this point, I've put together an initial game plan. Currently have on the desktop pc: Pete's Root Tools v1.07, RSD Lite v5.6 along with the GB 2.3.4 SBF, and the MOTO_Bootstrap_signed.rar (apk).
Please feel free to confirm or correct my plan.
1. Root the phone via Moon Shadow's X2 Tutorial using Pete's v1.07.
2. Once Pete's tool gives me confirmation that the phone is rooted, upgrade SU and Busybox via the Market. Sure would like a confirmation on this step!
3. Prior to the backup, copy the Droid X2 Recovery APK over to the external sd card, dl Root Explorer which is going to let me "install" the Recovery APK.
4. Follow Moon Shadow's X2 nandroid/backup Tutorial by launching the Recovery APK and following his Backup prodedure.
5. My plan is to backup to the external sd card so I can also keep a copy on the desktop along with one on an external thumb drive. Sorry if I sound too redundant!
A few of the apps I plan on purchasing/dl'ing (don't mind contributing small $ for the pro/pay versions as I hope it thanks them for their hard work and encourages continued upgrades) are:
TI Backup Pro
Root Explorer (File Manager)
My Backup Pro (for the wife's contacts, messages, photos, etc.)
Again, all feedback/corrections/confirmations will be appreciated!
Thanks!
WVULTRA said:
At this point, I've put together an initial game plan. Currently have on the desktop pc: Pete's Root Tools v1.07, RSD Lite v5.6 along with the GB 2.3.4 SBF, and the MOTO_Bootstrap_signed.rar (apk).
Please feel free to confirm or correct my plan.
1. Root the phone via Moon Shadow's X2 Tutorial using Pete's v1.07.
2. Once Pete's tool gives me confirmation that the phone is rooted, upgrade SU and Busybox via the Market. Sure would like a confirmation on this step!
3. Prior to the backup, copy the Droid X2 Recovery APK over to the external sd card, dl Root Explorer which is going to let me "install" the Recovery APK.
4. Follow Moon Shadow's X2 nandroid/backup Tutorial by launching the Recovery APK and following his Backup prodedure.
5. My plan is to backup to the external sd card so I can also keep a copy on the desktop along with one on an external thumb drive. Sorry if I sound too redundant!
A few of the apps I plan on purchasing/dl'ing (don't mind contributing small $ for the pro/pay versions as I hope it thanks them for their hard work and encourages continued upgrades) are:
TI Backup Pro
Root Explorer (File Manager)
My Backup Pro (for the wife's contacts, messages, photos, etc.)
Again, all feedback/corrections/confirmations will be appreciated!
Thanks!
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YES GET ROOT EXPLORER
it will.make ur.life SO MUCH EASIER in the.long run. You will definitely get your moneys worth within the first 2weeks of using it. Simple UI and very efficient set-up. All u need for a root file explorer. BEST choice
I don't use TI backup...
Anything TI does can be done manually by using root explorer to copy apks to sdcard..
I lied...ti can backup data for apps as well...but I have seen problems arise sometimes...I just personally don't use it...
I recommend bloat freezer if u plan on freezing any apps ...it is like dipping the apps in liquid nitrogen...best app freezer available PERIOD...((TI "freezes" as well but uses a different process and some apps don't "freeze" all the way))) ur choice tho experimentation is KEY and us the main point have fun with it..as long as u have a nandroid or sbf file u are good to try TONS of stuff knowing u will be able to get back easily.
Can't comment on "my backup pro" but I can say that if u store your contacts synced to google and/or backup assistant that they will always be available to u. They get backed up to an o line account (gmail for google...myverizonwirelessc.com>>>backup assistant ))) photos get stored on sdcard and shouldn't be deleted unless u choose to format sd cards.
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Oh...and updating the superuser app itself isn't necessary ....good idea to update its binary tho....but do NOT worry bout it....the first time u grant SU permission to something it will ask u if u want to update the binary and u can just press the notification in the pulldown window to do it....
Busybox ----. U can if u want to.
But if u flash eclipse it comes with busybox 1.19.gitadrynaline...
Not sure what is installed when initially rooted...never checked...
if u want to update I recommend that version...I've never had any issues with it. And it isn't an app. It is installed to system/xbin I believe....it allows for different commands/scripts to work properly....someone can explain better than me if u need to know what it does...
u can update busybox via busybox installer from market....there are a couple...most are pretty fond of the one made by jrummy ....
HAVE FUN TWEAKING AND WELCOME
ashclepdia said:
YES GET ROOT EXPLORER
it will.make ur.life SO MUCH EASIER in the.long run. You will definitely get your moneys worth within the first 2weeks of using it. Simple UI and very efficient set-up. All u need for a root file explorer. BEST choice
I don't use TI backup...
Anything TI does can be done manually by using root explorer to copy apks to sdcard..
I lied...ti can backup data for apps as well...but I have seen problems arise sometimes...I just personally don't use it...
I recommend bloat freezer if u plan on freezing any apps ...it is like dipping the apps in liquid nitrogen...best app freezer available PERIOD...((TI "freezes" as well but uses a different process and some apps don't "freeze" all the way))) ur choice tho experimentation is KEY and us the main point have fun with it..as long as u have a nandroid or sbf file u are good to try TONS of stuff knowing u will be able to get back easily.
Can't comment on "my backup pro" but I can say that if u store your contacts synced to google and/or backup assistant that they will always be available to u. They get backed up to an o line account (gmail for google...myverizonwirelessc.com>>>backup assistant ))) photos get stored on sdcard and shouldn't be deleted unless u choose to format sd cards.
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Oh...and updating the superuser app itself isn't necessary ....good idea to update its binary tho....but do NOT worry bout it....the first time u grant SU permission to something it will ask u if u want to update the binary and u can just press the notification in the pulldown window to do it....
Busybox ----. U can if u want to.
But if u flash eclipse it comes with busybox 1.19.gitadrynaline...
Not sure what is installed when initially rooted...never checked...
if u want to update I recommend that version...I've never had any issues with it. And it isn't an app. It is installed to system/xbin I believe....it allows for different commands/scripts to work properly....someone can explain better than me if u need to know what it does...
u can update busybox via busybox installer from market....there are a couple...most are pretty fond of the one made by jrummy ....
HAVE FUN TWEAKING AND WELCOME
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ash:
Thanks for all the detailed info! Things have been hectic the last few days, so my plan is to get started this weekend when I have plenty of un-interrupted time.
Really looking forward to this, and I'll post my results back once I've made some progress.
Truly appreciate the feedback!
No problem
Hahaha I didn't realize how long that.post actually got lol.
Sometimes I ramble and go on tangents so if I confused ya at any point don't hesitate to ask me to clarify
If you get titanium then you should probably pass on my backup pro, it'd be redundant as titanium can backup user data like texts and progress in games etc. just setup a regular backup schedule in TiBu and you'll be good to go.
Sent from my Android device.
ashclepdia said:
No problem
Hahaha I didn't realize how long that.post actually got lol.
Sometimes I ramble and go on tangents so if I confused ya at any point don't hesitate to ask me to clarify
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ash:
On the contrary, I'm one of those noobs that enjoys detailed info! And, if I get confused I will ask more questions!
TU!
juhde said:
If you get titanium then you should probably pass on my backup pro, it'd be redundant as titanium can backup user data like texts and progress in games etc. just setup a regular backup schedule in TiBu and you'll be good to go.
Sent from my Android device.
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juhde:
Thanks for pointing that out! My concern was to have solid/secure backups of everything important along with the wife's contacts, messages, etc, etc, etc, so if I screw up the I can retrieve everything she uses daily/regularly.
Will do some more research on the apps once I get the root and nandroid bu secure.
Thanks again!
YES GET ROOT EXPLORER
it will.make ur.life SO MUCH EASIER in the.long run. You will definitely get your moneys worth within the first 2weeks of using it. Simple UI and very efficient set-up. All u need for a root file explorer. BEST choice
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ash: since it appears your familiar with Root Explorer, I'm wondering if the app allows me to use it on other phones I own without having to pay for it again? I sent an inquirey to speedsoftware.co.uk, and their reply didn't really answer my question.
With TiBU Pro, they mail you a "key" and once the free version is installed on another phone, placing the .txt key file in the correct folder allows another phone to have the premium version.
At least that's my understanding.........
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ash: since it appears your familiar with Root Explorer, I'm wondering if the app allows me to use it on other phones I own without having to pay for it again? I sent an inquirey to speedsoftware.co.uk, and their reply didn't really answer my question.
With TiBU Pro, they mail you a "key" and once the free version is installed on another phone, placing the .txt key file in the correct folder allows another phone to have the premium version.
At least that's my understanding.........
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As long as the market on both phones is linked to the same account. You should be good. Just like buying a new phone. All your paid apps are still there to download again.
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WVULTRA said:
ash: since it appears your familiar with Root Explorer, I'm wondering if the app allows me to use it on other phones I own without having to pay for it again? I sent an inquirey to speedsoftware.co.uk, and their reply didn't really answer my question.
With TiBU Pro, they mail you a "key" and once the free version is installed on another phone, placing the .txt key file in the correct folder allows another phone to have the premium version.
At least that's my understanding.........
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Yeah what he said.
U just need to have the gmail account u bought it with associated wit the new phone.
Rooted!
Wanted to follow up and let everyone know that I got the wife's X2 rooted following Moon Shadow's excellent Tutorials; and it worked perfectly! After rooting, I updated SU and Busybox through the market. After installing/launching the bootstrap apk, was able to do a complete nandroid following the BU/Restore Tutorial. Had one hiccup that was self-induced while attempting to start the system recovery, but removing the battery and rebooting allowed my second attemp to work flawlessly.
A big THANKS for everyone's help and support. Have to say TiBU and Root Explorer are definitely recommended apps. Have removed/froze most of the bloat listed here at the forum and have been backing up along the way. Phone is working fine.
Now, to continue my research on considering a custom ROM like Eclipse......
Thanks again!
WVULTRA said:
Wanted to follow up and let everyone know that I got the wife's X2 rooted following Moon Shadow's excellent Tutorials; and it worked perfectly! After rooting, I updated SU and Busybox through the market. After installing/launching the bootstrap apk, was able to do a complete nandroid following the BU/Restore Tutorial. Had one hiccup that was self-induced while attempting to start the system recovery, but removing the battery and rebooting allowed my second attemp to work flawlessly.
A big THANKS for everyone's help and support. Have to say TiBU and Root Explorer are definitely recommended apps. Have removed/froze most of the bloat listed here at the forum and have been backing up along the way. Phone is working fine.
Now, to continue my research on considering a custom ROM like Eclipse......
Thanks again!
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Congrats
Let the fun begin!
Don't get left in the dark flash eclipse lol
Have fun in ur research. Reading and learning is one of the best parts doing this stuff..you will feel bit overwhelmed at first until you realize how "simple" things can be.
One bit of.knowledge for ya ---i... HIGHLY recommend that you use Bloat /CIQ freezer from.market for freezing any apps https://market.android.com/details?id=com.bloatfreezer.free
trust me on this. It will freeze apps better than TI does. I have read before and noticed first hand((I only used TI twice)) that some apps still run when frozen with TI. Those same apps when frozen with bloat freezer are like solid ice cubes floating in liquid nitrogen. They WILL NOT run until defrosted.
And if I want to remove any apps I just use root explorer to move the apk to my external sd card if I want a backup or I just straight delete it if I don't want it at all.
Have fun!
ashclepdia said:
Congrats
Let the fun begin!
Don't get left in the dark flash eclipse lol
Have fun in ur research. Reading and learning is one of the best parts doing this stuff..you will feel bit overwhelmed at first until you realize how "simple" things can be.
One bit of.knowledge for ya ---i... HIGHLY recommend that you use Bloat /CIQ freezer from.market for freezing any apps https://market.android.com/details?id=com.bloatfreezer.free
trust me on this. It will freeze apps better than TI does. I have read before and noticed first hand((I only used TI twice)) that some apps still run when frozen with TI. Those same apps when frozen with bloat freezer are like solid ice cubes floating in liquid nitrogen. They WILL NOT run until defrosted.
And if I want to remove any apps I just use root explorer to move the apk to my external sd card if I want a backup or I just straight delete it if I don't want it at all.
Have fun!
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ash:
Appreciate the info on bloatfreezer! Even though I've got TuBU Pro, I realize after a few uses that I'm more comfortable with root explorer! And I have noticed a couple of apps that are frozen but still appear in the apps listing.
I'll definitely consider bloatfreezer once I've determined if it can coexist (for my use) with TiBU or should I uninstall TiBU first.
Thanks!
I was wondering how I could make an exact copy of my system the way I have it set up, minus my personal info / installed apps after the fact and transfer it to another note.
I installed Holo kernel / TCPnote v2, froze tw launcher (after installing the latest golauncher ex beta) and several other bloat related things. Basically the whole system is running GoContacts / sms / launcher / locker. Changed some memory options / font / themes.
I have a friend that has a note as well and he liked my setup but I don't feel like going through all the work of doing it all again on his and was wondering if there was someway I could dump my setup to a image and reflash on his.
Any input is appreicated.
Would it help if whomever can help me with this got a donation, say $50.00 for their time?
jb0nd38372 said:
Would it help if whomever can help me with this got a donation, say $50.00 for their time?
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You can do a backup through CWM and then copy the backup file to his clockwork mod backup folder and restore it . also do a titaninum back up of all the apps he wants that you have. then do a factory reset on his phone and it will erase all of your personal information. then go back to titanium back up and restore all the apps he wants from your setup.
Thanks for the idea, I dunno if what I said in the first post was sensible, I already have a bunch of apps and stuff installed for me, that 'm sure he wouldn't want. What I was hoping to do is be able to image the core system (or the whole thing, and take out extras + my personal info / accounts, etc) then repackage it, flash with odin or cwm, Basically like the devs do roms, except backwards. I have the system setup / tweaks / launcher / addon's and would like to pull that out, minus anything i had installed afterwards, and make it flashable to his phone by any means necessary.
His phone is completely stock, so if I could image it to fash thru odin then he would have working root / cwm / custom rom + beats and other things i've deleted such as bloatware / vpn / stuff average users will never use.
Any other sugguestions?
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You can do a backup through CWM and then copy the backup file to his clockwork mod backup folder and restore it . also do a titaninum back up of all the apps he wants that you have. then do a factory reset on his phone and it will erase all of your personal information. then go back to titanium back up and restore all the apps he wants from your setup.
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No I dont know how to do it any other way. but if you could give me a thanks for trying it would be very appreciated
On Titanium Backup, you can uncheckmark the programs that you don't want to restore.
You can do a backup on your phone, and a backup using Titanium Backup, restore onto his phone by copying over the clockwordmod folder and the Titanium Backup folder.
Root/cwm his phone, then restore using cwm. Factory reset, then reboot.
Download Titanium Backup (Pro makes this a lot less painful), run it, do a batch restore, and uncheck the programs he won't use.
EDIT: Someone else ninja'd me. I really don't know if there's a way to reverse it. There should be theoretically. You most likely would have to still factory reset and use titanium backup.
EDIT 2: This might work: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.p3droid.odinmaker.donate
Can you make a nandroid without data and cache?
at first glance it looks like you want to make a rom
but upon reading it again, i have to say:
generally no, but it MIGHT be possible with LOTS of work
the main problem is, that most of your settings (like widgets, ...) are stored in data.
so what you could do is:
manually remove the data stuff you don't want, keep only the stuff you really need (lots of work, and might not work correctly)
and then you might be able to share it together with your system image (you would need to wipe cache and data before you write your backed up data...
which brings us back to the original answer...
I think possibly doing a part manual and part automated might be your best bet. Use titanium to back up then restore apps to his phone. There are apps that backup your desktop (shortcut and widget locations). Perhaps this will reduce a bulk of your setup time once you get a preferred ROM in place. Paid version of Titanium Backup allows you to restore all apps in unattended batch rather then making you click yes/install to every app. This may be worth it, I love it. I have been thinking about this on and off since yesterday and just can't think of a way of doing it that wont require a good but of work one way or another. Good luck though, let us know what you figure out.
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Thanks for all the suggestions, for the moment, I installed CWM and rooted the Note, still deciding on the best way to get his like mine with minimal amount of work needed for me or him. To bad there is not a way to image a phone's system completely, then just restore on the other phone.
Now I wish I would have cared more about programming instead of the hardware side back when I was in school eating up computer courses.
Chief Geek said:
I think possibly doing a part manual and part automated might be your best bet. Use titanium to back up then restore apps to his phone. There are apps that backup your desktop (shortcut and widget locations). Perhaps this will reduce a bulk of your setup time once you get a preferred ROM in place. Paid version of Titanium Backup allows you to restore all apps in unattended batch rather then making you click yes/install to every app. This may be worth it, I love it. I have been thinking about this on and off since yesterday and just can't think of a way of doing it that wont require a good but of work one way or another. Good luck though, let us know what you figure out.
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Search fruit cake maker and contact the dev.. It may be simple to get working on the note.
jb0nd38372 said:
Thanks for all the suggestions, for the moment, I installed CWM and rooted the Note, still deciding on the best way to get his like mine with minimal amount of work needed for me or him. To bad there is not a way to image a phone's system completely, then just restore on the other phone.
Now I wish I would have cared more about programming instead of the hardware side back when I was in school eating up computer courses.
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Search fruit cake maker and contact the dev.. It may be simple to get working on the note.
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Just my thought. Search for the user Samcripp. He basically has a program that makes s a system img of your current setup. I know it is in the skyrocket forum but not sure if it would work for our device.....not sure why it wouldn't but that's why I'm not a dev.... lol
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[Q] Seeking a single-click, multiple .apk installer, without "OK" confirmation breaks
Good afternoon,
Seeking the following:
An app which I can show my backed-up apks to all sitting on the SD card (after a new ROM flash for example), and to which I can then say, "Okay, install all these without asking me for any further confirmation." I don't want to sit here for the next two hours while I click OK for 150 apps to install (i.e. with Astro, Titanium Backup, or Easy Installer)
The only quasi solution to this I know of atm is Android Injector, which you operate from the PC, and transfer apks directly to your phone. I don't want that. I want to leave the PC out it completely, and find a solution from the phone side of things, utilizing the SD card, as stated.
All responses welcome and highly appreciated.
TL;DR - seeking an app that, with one click and one click only, will restore 100+ .apks without asking for confirmation between each one, which are stored on the SD card.
Thx.
To do this you need root I believe as there's no other way to bypass the install screen(as that would bypassing security and allowing a malicious app to install stuff freely)
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fjell_strom said:
Good afternoon,
Seeking the following:
An app which I can show my backed-up apks to all sitting on the SD card (after a new ROM flash for example), and to which I can then say, "Okay, install all these without asking me for any further confirmation." I don't want to sit here for the next two hours while I click OK for 150 apps to install (i.e. with Astro, Titanium Backup, or Easy Installer)
The only quasi solution to this I know of atm is Android Injector, which you operate from the PC, and transfer apks directly to your phone. I don't want that. I want to leave the PC out it completely, and find a solution from the phone side of things, utilizing the SD card, as stated.
All responses welcome and highly appreciated.
TL;DR - seeking an app that, with one click and one click only, will restore 100+ .apks without asking for confirmation between each one, which are stored on the SD card.
Thx.
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Titainium back up pro does this.
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zelendel said:
Titainium back up pro does this.
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Thx man - bought it. Just out of curiosity: any other options, perhaps cost-free?
fjell_strom said:
Thx man - bought it. Just out of curiosity: any other options, perhaps cost-free?
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Not that i know of. This has been the one I have always used myself and has worked without fail so never really looked.
Yeah, does a great job not just getting the apps back into place but with data as well, if desired. Great option. Takes about the same amount of time as with Android Injector (USB from PC) fwiw.
i have many apps apks on sd card location mnt/external_sd/myapps , and pro version of titanium backup. how do i get titanium to see all these apps so i can install them at once. or do i have to put them in the titanium backup folder. (they might not all fit, because titanium backup folder in on internal sd, not external)
This might help, requires ADB on a PC though. It's free. My suggestion is to use Titanium Backup Pro though, it really is a fantastic app. This is a good workaround though.
http://www.redmondpie.com/how-to-in...ly-on-android-phones-with-mass-apk-installer/
I've always used My Backup Pro, it gives you a list of all the apps in the back up so you can tick the ones you want or just select-all and it runs through them in o e operation. Does apk and data but needs root.
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One Click Installer [Root]
Hi, ive developed a new app that does exactly what you are looking for.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sharon.oneclickinstaller
All apps installs in background without user interaction.
Features:
Background installation without user interaction
Install all apks with with a single click.
Change the directory of apk files or load all apk files.
Delete unwanted apk
Hope you find it useful!
Thanks
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stephendt0 said:
This might help, requires ADB on a PC though. It's free. My suggestion is to use Titanium Backup Pro though, it really is a fantastic app. This is a good workaround though.
http://www.redmondpie.com/how-to-in...ly-on-android-phones-with-mass-apk-installer/
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sharon.oneclickinstaller
All apps installs in background without user interaction.
Wow talk about digging up a thread from the grave. Thanks for sharing though.
system app remover..
u just need to mark items.
backup/restore
batch install/unistall
So the T-Mobile HTC One comes with quite a bit of bloatware and I just wanted to make sure I uninstall all that crap with doing any other harm. So I'm creating a list of bloatware below. My question is, is it safe to remove all the bloatware with doing any harm to OS/phone in anyway? Btw, I do have my phone rooted and have Titanium Backup.
List of Bloatware: Feel free to add to the list if I've missed anything.
LookOut
T-Mobile MyAccount
T-Mobile Name ID
T-Mobile TV
Visual Voicemail
Also, is there anyway of taking out the Internet and replacing it with Chrome?
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So the T-Mobile HTC One comes with quite a bit of bloatware and I just wanted to make sure I uninstall all that crap with doing any other harm. So I'm creating a list of bloatware below. My question is, is it safe to remove all the bloatware with doing any harm to OS/phone in anyway? Btw, I do have my phone rooted and have Titanium Backup.
List of Bloatware: Feel free to add to the list if I've missed anything.
LookOut
T-Mobile MyAccount
T-Mobile Name ID
T-Mobile TV
Visual Voicemail
Also, is there anyway of taking out the Internet and replacing it with Chrome?
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You can take out the internet but some of the HTC stuff most likely needs it. Also Chrome does not support Adobe Flash player where i am sure the internet one does. If you want to make chrome a System app, you do this with TB. Just long hold the app you want to make a system app in TB and click convert to system. This will move the app from the user data to the system. If you wipe the phone the app will still be there but will just need to be updated. An easy way to find bloatware is to freeze the app under TB and if you have problems you know that the system needs it. You can just go and unfreeze it and use it again. If you uninstall something and do not make a backup of it, chances are you are going to run into problems.
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You can take out the internet but some of the HTC stuff most likely needs it. Also Chrome does not support Adobe Flash player where i am sure the internet one does. If you want to make chrome a System app, you do this with TB. Just long hold the app you want to make a system app in TB and click convert to system. This will move the app from the user data to the system. If you wipe the phone the app will still be there but will just need to be updated. An easy way to find bloatware is to freeze the app under TB and if you have problems you know that the system needs it. You can just go and unfreeze it and use it again. If you uninstall something and do not make a backup of it, chances are you are going to run into problems.
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Thanks for your input, I'll look into it.
the bloatware is just reinstalling upon restoart
Need a Cusotm Kernel
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the bloatware is just reinstalling upon restoart
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If you just have root the system files are not writable. You have to flash a writable kernel. Root and stock kernel will not let you R/W it will say it did and confirm, but upon reboot, well you already know that.
Check out some custom kernels to access those advance features. I am on bulletproof right now. Pretty slick
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If you just have root the system files are not writable. You have to flash a writable kernel. Root and stock kernel will not let you R/W it will say it did and confirm, but upon reboot, well you already know that.
Check out some custom kernels to access those advance features. I am on bulletproof right now. Pretty slick
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Thanks! I ended up choosing 'freeze' for now which is good enough for me.
EDIT: Needed a writable kernel to force uninstall talk in order to install the new hangouts. everything went great! installed this kernel:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2255160