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I read through all the threads about the new upgrades, but I have not seen anyone talk about power consumption and battery life.
Can someone who has done the upgrade lay out the differences?
It seems to have improved, but I've done quite a few hard resets and other various testing, so I can't say how much.. But it definitely seems to have improved..
thuggin said:
I read through all the threads about the new upgrades, but I have not seen anyone talk about power consumption and battery life.
Can someone who has done the upgrade lay out the differences?
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About twice a week I have HELL days were the phone gets a work out and tomarrow is one of them.
The old Cingular ROM:
Turn on Phone at 6am-by 12 noon it would be dead, I use a lot of 3G and video streaming.
Tomarrow will be the first hell day since the new ROM, so I will report back tomarrow night and let you know how it goes.
After several days with the new ROM and a full day with the new 1.33 radio it appears that battery life is definitely improved.
I am running radio 1.27 and i can say that with this .rom battery has improved somewhat from what i saw in 1.20.....
The battery life is definitely better on the new ROMs. I'm running 1.27 Radio ROM and with a 3000mah battery my phone last around 10 hours now.
I certainly hope so. I would like to consider myself a power user. I have my push email downloading every 2 minutes. So I am usually dead by 3pm. I hope this will be better under those conditions.
Are people here using the battery saving hacks on the Wiki or are you using the default ROM settings? I have not checked, they might be the same in the new ROM.
I'm only using the default ROM settings.. Minus a few CABs in the extended ROM, but those are mostly things that annoy me anyway (like the Good Email and such)..
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I'm only using the default ROM settings.. Minus a few CABs in the extended ROM, but those are mostly things that annoy me anyway (like the Good Email and such)..
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Has anyone tried the tweaks on the Wiki with this ROM? If so, how much battery asving do you get and what are the possible side effects?
bat life is so much better.... it would almost be dead by 10pm.. not its still over half by 10
I just read the comments about the Radio ROM 1.48.00.0 and I'm not conviced I should upgrade, however I am useing 1.47.00.10 now and it sucks. I hardly get any signal. It took the hermes about 20km on the motorway to fetch a proper signal so I could call home (very irritating)
I hear some people talking about 1.43 being the best. Also some sounds that only the first ROM is generic and the rest is specific for the provider it was stripped from. Other users experience batterydrain with specific ROMs. There is no real favourite anyway
So my question is, which ROM is the best? I am in Europe most of the time so my focus will be on that functionality.
Please post your suggestions
Cheers!
For me the best is 1.43.
I installed 1.47, and I have a lot of problems with internet connection and missed calls.
Could you post please the link to the thread for the 1.48.00.00 bad comments?
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Could you post please the link to the thread for the 1.48.00.00 bad comments?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=317335
Not specifically bad comments. It seems to work fine for the AT&T community, but not for others.
Big comments post
So why we don't make a bir query, a big post where people could speak they're experience with different radios, in an Standardized aproach, like:
-Phone Model:
-OS in use:
-Operator in use and actual location in the world:
-Radio Rom's used and the opinion on each of them:
What do you think??? I'm reading a lot to discover wich one to upgrade... But there are so many different opinions...
Can nobody on XDA decipher these radios and tell us exactly what's different with each? Higher frequency in one part of the band or some sort? I have no idea... almsost seems like for all we know, all the radios are exactly the same the manufacturers just rename them each time they release it with a new ROM.
im a cingular user and tried 1.48 and i know it did not work good for me .. went back to 1.47
im on tmob and i notice 1.48 doesnt perform as well as 1.43/1.46 never tried 1.47
I'm also on t-mobile and 1.47 has much better reception and battery life than 1.48.
I found 1.43 is best for AT&T in Southern California. I tried 1.48 and 1.47, but 1.48 drained battery too fast, and 1.47 only gave so so signal strength.
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I found 1.43 is best for AT&T in Southern California. I tried 1.48 and 1.47, but 1.48 drained battery too fast, and 1.47 only gave so so signal strength.
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I just upgraded to 1.48 a few days ago and had a chance to test it from where I live in Palmdale out to Ontario yesterday. I noticed the same thing too. On a full charge all night on the wall I was able to take a single 10 minute call and use the internet for about 15 minutes. By the time I was heading back home my battery was almost drained! My power settings put the phone to sleep after 1 minute on battery power and my screen backlight is set to 30% on battery power. Definitely not acceptable! I think I will give 1.43 a try.
1.43 is amazing for battery life. i will not be upgrading to 1.47/1.48
I have tried them all (Rom's and Radio's). For me in the Netherlands is probably the 1.47 the best option. In combination with Schap's Rom even the power consumption is acceptable. I travel a lot and come often in Germany and Belgium too. No problemos with my combination!
The best option for you is try them out!
Good Luck with it.
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I just upgraded to 1.48 a few days ago and had a chance to test it from where I live in Palmdale out to Ontario yesterday. I noticed the same thing too. On a full charge all night on the wall I was able to take a single 10 minute call and use the internet for about 15 minutes. By the time I was heading back home my battery was almost drained! My power settings put the phone to sleep after 1 minute on battery power and my screen backlight is set to 30% on battery power. Definitely not acceptable! I think I will give 1.43 a try.
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Your case is a bit too weird. But I have tested all 1.40/41/43/47 and 1.48
1.48 is definitely drains power much faster than other radio version and without any extra benefits.
I will suggest 1.41 and 43 (they are both good and stable) but I am now testing 1.47.
BTW, I believe it also depends on where is your location and also the network operator. If your area or your operator has weaker network, the device needs more power to get signal (by my common sense)
My Hermes is Currently on 1.51.00.10 with rom version 3.54.255.3
Battery is getting absolutely caned and service seems to be very patchy.
Has anyone else flashed their T Mobile Hermes? I know T won't be upgrading to 6, which is kinda lame.
I've got WM6 Black Satin and radio rom 1.43.00.00
Battery seems to be taking a beating with Bluetooth on as well.
Other than that it's totally brilliant.
Doogs.
I am on 1.50 that comes with the T Mobile WM6 (not for sale) Rom.
Seems to be working lovely and battery life fine bu I do use the streaming alot so purchased a nice cheap second battery on Ebay.
I've got 1.50 and Black Satin and find thats pretty much okay, helps if you do things like turn down the screen brightness and turn of 3G/HSDPA unless you absolutely need high speed data transfers.
GPRS works pretty well for my e-mail and web browsing.
I do love web n walk
I'm on schap's 3.60a and radio 1.50...battery does seem to get drained but i have 3g/hsdpa on all the time and syncing with windows live and exchange server. Do need to recharge th ebattery everyday.
Im with TMobile as well, Im currently on:
ROM: Black Dymond
Radio: 1.41.00.10
Location: London
I tend to charge my phone every evening, so cant comment on the battery life.
My reception kinda sucks though, any suggestions as to what the best radio version is?
I've been using 1.50 since it came out, and it's definitely a good 'un! The 3G/HSDPA signal works perfectly (1.51 doesn't work on 3G for T-Mob UK) and download speeds are generally 900kbps+ when the network isn't playing silly beggars. Call quality seems OK, but I don't actually use my phone for calls much. Battery life is fine, but again I play with it so much that I always charge every night.
Plus, the version number is higher than all the 1.4x ones, and everyone knows a higher version number is more important than almost anything else!!!
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(1.51 doesn't work on 3G for T-Mob UK)
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Really? That can't be right, stuff loads lightning fast when it actually works.
Actually the little 3G icon on the phone sometimes changes to an 'H' also. That kinda weirded me out.
I might try going back to something earlier.
I get the H icon appear but only get like 120kbit/s or 190 max?
Isnt 900 like you mention the above the equivilent of nearly a 10mb line or have i got my bytes and bits mixed up or something lol?
I switched from the official WM5 that came with the Vario II to the unofficial W6 with radio 1.50. At the beginning it was working ok, however battery life was about 50% of what it used to be, so not too great but ok.
Recently the phone part freezes more and more, especially when I try to dial, ‘dialing’ just hangs on the screen, and after a while I get a 'operation failed' balloon. The phone also looses signal quite often and switches between GPRS and 3G, although my office normally has excellent T-Mobile reception. Only soft resetting brings back the signal, and sometimes I even have to repeat this several times.
So this morning I switched to 1.48, but still seem to have the same problem loosing the signal.
Maybe I should just try installing the whole ROM again, cause I can’t figure out if a particular software is causing the problems. and it seems I'm the only one who has these problems.
One thing though, I am definitely 100% sure that this unofficial T-Mobile Rom was not intended for the Vario II. Maybe for the new Kaiser, but TM was and is definitely not working on updating old Window Mobile 5 devices already sold.
I have a similar pattern of poor reliability and battery drain emerging after a very good start with Radio 1.50. I can't see why this would happen though, it was originally very good and I have only installed one new app since then (SPB Time, which I took off again).
Currently almost all calls drop within 2 minutes and Internet Sharing is intermittent over 3G/H.
Anyone recommend a stable Radio for Tmob UK?
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I have a similar pattern of poor reliability and battery drain emerging after a very good start with Radio 1.50. I can't see why this would happen though, it was originally very good and I have only installed one new app since then (SPB Time, which I took off again).
Currently almost all calls drop within 2 minutes and Internet Sharing is intermittent over 3G/H.
Anyone recommend a stable Radio for Tmob UK?
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I went back to 1.46 and internet sharing is rock solid and it seems better with regards to holding a signal.
It's not perfect but pretty close, still have the occasional missed call without the phone ringing but thats exagerated because I am on a borderline 3g 3g area, batt life is good too.
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I went back to 1.46 and internet sharing is rock solid and it seems better with regards to holding a signal.
It's not perfect but pretty close, still have the occasional missed call without the phone ringing but thats exagerated because I am on a borderline 3g 3g area, batt life is good too.
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OK, I'm sold, I will have a go with it and report back.
I'm still using 1.27 tried 1.40.30 and 1.50 and a few others but although data was fine on them i had loads of people who couldn't get through to me, straight to answer phone or would ring there end but not mine. never had a problem with 1.27 but will keep trying the new ones
I have been using 1.50 since it came out and have not had any problems with it at all. Battery life is very good. Phone rings after 1-2 rings on the other end. No dropped calls due to my end.
Will look out for the problems people seem to be having here though.
I have just changed my UK T-Mobile MDA Pro for a Vario 2, and one of the first things I did was to flash it with the unofficial T-Mobile WM6 upgrade. After about a day, I started to experience lockups on the phone and GPRS. So I went back to WM5 (found a T-Mobile WM5 on the Wiki, albeit Hungarian!). That cured the lockups. The weird thing is that the radio remained as the upgraded 1.50.
My conclusion is, WM6 is not yet compatible with T-Mobile UK.
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I have just changed my UK T-Mobile MDA Pro for a Vario 2, and one of the first things I did was to flash it with the unofficial T-Mobile WM6 upgrade. After about a day, I started to experience lockups on the phone and GPRS. So I went back to WM5 (found a T-Mobile WM5 on the Wiki, albeit Hungarian!). That cured the lockups. The weird thing is that the radio remained as the upgraded 1.50.
My conclusion is, WM6 is not yet compatible with T-Mobile UK.
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Syd, don't give up so easily on WM6! I've been using it since the first test ROMs surfaced - the main reason being I wanted to get rid of the daily lock-ups I was experiencing on WM5. I haven't had a lockup for months now, and can go several days without resetting the phone (generally do it whenever the available RAM figure gets lower than I'd like). The T-Mobile WM6 ROM was just a test ROM and as such may well have bugs. I'd suggest trying some of the Chef cooked ROMs over on the WM6 forum, or trying Pandora if you know what you want.
T-Mobile and WM6 make a wonderful partnership, believe me!
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Syd, don't give up so easily on WM6! I've been using it since the first test ROMs surfaced - the main reason being I wanted to get rid of the daily lock-ups I was experiencing on WM5. I haven't had a lockup for months now, and can go several days without resetting the phone (generally do it whenever the available RAM figure gets lower than I'd like). The T-Mobile WM6 ROM was just a test ROM and as such may well have bugs. I'd suggest trying some of the Chef cooked ROMs over on the WM6 forum, or trying Pandora if you know what you want.
T-Mobile and WM6 make a wonderful partnership, believe me!
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Confused Stu, Thanks for those encouraging words. I will indeed take the plunge again, and go for a cooked WM6 ROM. At the moment, I am torn between TNT 2.0 and Schap's Pro 3.6.
Thanks again for the reassurance.
I got my Vario II at the weekend so I can't really comment on improvement from the defaults, but I upgraded straight away to Schap's Pro 3.6 and the 1.50 radio and everything is stable.
I am thinking of changing to Black Satin though, just to see the difference.
Yet to really put the device through a tough test though, will let you know if I manage to get a day's use out of it when I'm caning it hard.
I've had 1.50 for about a month. It took me a while to realise I was NEVER getting 3G (I put it down to TM's flakey coverage at first!).
Also noticed I kept failing to get to the phone in time to answer calls (2-3 rings max) - At first I though my voicemail setting were too aggressive, then I tested by calling myself and realised it was ringing 2-3 times before the Hermes even woke up I put this down to the usual windows bloat at first but after reading here I see other people associate this problem with the radio firmware.
Oh, and battery life is appalling. Have been caught out several times, and it's down to 20-40% by the evening if I don't use it for anything. Definitely DOESN'T make it through the night if I forget to charge.
Just gotta work out which version to switch too... !
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PS schaps 3.60a
I decided to load the Telus ROM on VZW 6800. Flashed fine. Stopped customizations before running. Did not need an A-Key or any activation. Installed TomTom7.x and HTC GPS Tool. I then tested. I got a lock on TomTom 7 within 15 seconds EVERY time. I have used the GPS tool to clear memory and reapeted. Same results, 15 seconds or less. Next I took the battery out for about one minute and then tried again. Still 15 or less seconds!!!
I am worried I am seeing a placebo affect here. Can someone else try?
just came from .50 to this one and the gps is flying, also like it since i am a telus client. working well for me but notice little diff from .50 as both radios have been speedy as can be
this one works better for me on Telus too... .50 was not letting calls or texts through, but this one works great!
Again as many have said, it may in fact be placebo effect, but I'm getting a much better lock INDOORS now as well. So I'd have to say that it's an improvement.
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Again as many have said, it may in fact be placebo effect, but I'm getting a much better lock INDOORS now as well. So I'd have to say that it's an improvement.
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Ok, great it wasnt just me. I have been on it for 24 hours now and its been pretty damn good. Failed to lock twice now. Radio .50 would fail about 1 time out of 4. This has a ratio of about 1 time out of 10. Much much better for me.
.50 has been the best radio rom for my mogul up to date.
Phone still won't get signal or GPS lock in my college but I wasn't expecting it to. That's all the testing I've been able to do so far
i haven't had any reception issues with either, but .40 doesn't randomly freeze the phone like .50 seemed to
Of the three recent radios which one (3.42.40 or .50 or .30) is the best to use with a Sprint Mogul?
Does anyone know what primary differences or improvements that one radio has over another?
Do the different radios have different affects on battery life at all?
Do I get improved reception with one radio over another?
Can anyone say, without doubt, that one of the three radios is hands down better than the other two?
Again, I am mostly concerned about the affects on a Sprint Mogul.
I second that question
I was wondering the same thing.
Reception is a bigger deal for me as i live in a rural area.
Battery life is secondary.
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I was wondering the same thing.
Reception is a bigger deal for me as i live in a rural area.
Battery life is secondary.
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some people state that they have much better GPS locks starting with 3.42 and up I myself is running .50 and can lock gps sats in less then 10 seconds. Reception is the same, there is not difference in my area. I travel through rural areas and have had no issues with reception.
If I were you, I would run each one and see which one you like!!!!
I am running .50 and with TT7 I get locks in under 10 seconds. BTW TT7 is awesome!
any testing of the radio without monitoring the right measurements will be purely a waste of time.
Honestly, if it works fine, that should be good enough. Radio measurements fluctuate so rapidly and user testing is so subjective that any "opinion" would be meaningless.
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any testing of the radio without monitoring the right measurements will be purely a waste of time.
Honestly, if it works fine, that should be good enough. Radio measurements fluctuate so rapidly and user testing is so subjective that any "opinion" would be meaningless.
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Couldnt agree more. You can be standing in 1 spot and the radio strength fluctuates. They all work fine.
woah rajuabju it is time to update your rom
.50 is from a vogue and ported successfully to a titan.
.40 is newer than .30 if that matters or if you think it means anything.
I prefer .50 to .30 w/o scientific testing.
I've heard good stuff about .40 on the GPS front and may try it soon.
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.50 is from a vogue and ported successfully to a titan.
.40 is newer than .30 if that matters or if you think it means anything.
I prefer .50 to .30 w/o scientific testing.
I've heard good stuff about .40 on the GPS front and may try it soon.
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I get incredible GPS reception with .40 vs .50. It locks in 15 seconds and is much more consistent. I would recomend .40 over any radio and I have tried them all. No placebo affect. Am sure of it.
Running DCD 3.5.2
Pretty good info so far guys. But does carrier (mine is Sprint), or flavor of Titan factor in to which radio will function best?
In other words, does a radio released for a Vogue work just as well on a Mogul?
i have noticed absolutely no difference in reception or gps sync or battery life with the .40 vs. .50 vs. .30, but i did notice that .50 freezes my phone .. a lot, while the others don't.
I'd say its near impossible to really get an idea of GPS lock times in relation to radio versions. The lock is dependent on so many factors. Weather conditions, relative satellite position, distance from your last lock position, time interval from lock to lock, indoors / outdoors, the orientation of the antenna, how much of the horizon you are exposed to...
If you have a chance to use a dedicated GPS you will find that the lock times are variable even with a unit dedicated to finding the sats. Its the nature of the beast.
40 seems no better to me
I went from .50 to .40 for a day and I see no difference at all.
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Pretty good info so far guys. But does carrier (mine is Sprint), or flavor of Titan factor in to which radio will function best?
In other words, does a radio released for a Vogue work just as well on a Mogul?
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In most cases if ported properly: yes. But remember the vogue is a different device. The titan is the mogul is the xv6800 etc.
Once unlocked and flashed the only difference is the casing and settings. So you shouldn't see a difference. Though use whatever you feels is best.
I had good results with .50, but since switching to .40 a couple days ago locks seem to be a bit slower for me. Plan to go back to .50, but that's just my opinion. Never had freezing issues with any radios. I turn on the GPS once a day at the same time from the same location. I did this for 4 or 5 days with both .40 & .50. After 24 hours downtime, .50 seemed to lock quicker for me. About 30 sec with .50 vs. 60 sec with .40. Not really a huge difference.
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Has anyone noticed a difference in battery life with the different radios? I nstalled .50 a few days ago and found my battery drained super fast, so changed to .40 and find I am at my normal battery consumption. I only tested .50 for 2 days (requiring 2 full charges), but thought I would get feedback before trying it again.
where can i find the the bootloader and the 3.42.40 raidio for verizon xv6900
The talked about bootloader and radio are for the xv6800 not the xv6900. You need to look in the vogue section.