I've searched and haven't seen anything about this. After turning off gps, if I go to make a call, gps will turn back on!
Any insight? Obviously it can be annoying to turn gps off every time I make a call, and don't need gps killing my battery life. Is this a known bug like the YouTube app?
Thanks in advance.
Do you have any apps like mobile defense or wave secure installed? It may be one of those because I have mobile defense on my phone and often notice the same thing.
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Now that we have a rom available to enable the internal GPS (much thanks to DCD!) would it be possible to add a GPS enable/disable icon to the HTC Comm Manager?
Or is this even necessary?
from what ive heard... once you shut your phone to standby it closes the gps port. some people claim with no apps running such as google maps or live search that by going to ##debug#... it still shows their gps location. If i had a bet and we made a button that did that, all it would do is disable the LOCATION ON setting in your phone settings. Then when you want to turn it on.. you would turn that back to location on
i havent played with commmanagers much, but assuming we can point a button at a mortscript, theres already quite a few gps startup morts floating around. im sure we could modify the start script to be a toggle.. let me look around
edit: check out talynone's thread here and see if any of the launcher-type apps he linked might give us a start. the real project is coming up with what you want to call your gps toggle, i think sticking that in the commmanager will be easy at that point.
Thanks guys,
Really there isn't anything to shut off technically...it's not like shutting off Bluetooth transmitter which drains battery power...
But a toggle to switch bet location on and "911 only" would be helpful for those who have friend tracking apps and don't want to be located at certain times.
It's really a very low priority to have I must admit, but it would be nice to know I didn't have to dig deep into phone settings to toggle that off.
I'll look around for something that already toggles this for those who have built in GPS stock and WM6, And post whatever I find here.
friend tracking apps?
there are a few of those services like Loopt that will let friends track you via GPS (probably AGPS)....
https://loopt.com/loopt/sess/index.aspx
It's available for Sprint now...
there are also Parental trackers out there for Smartphones but I have never seen one for the PPC yet...
They also use the location on settings in the smartphones which is really the capability we are enabling with the new radio.
So a quick way to turn location on and off seemed like a good idea.
Asphyx said:
Thanks guys,
Really there isn't anything to shut off technically...it's not like shutting off Bluetooth transmitter which drains battery power...
But a toggle to switch bet location on and "911 only" would be helpful for those who have friend tracking apps and don't want to be located at certain times.
It's really a very low priority to have I must admit, but it would be nice to know I didn't have to dig deep into phone settings to toggle that off.
I'll look around for something that already toggles this for those who have built in GPS stock and WM6, And post whatever I find here.
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If there isn't anything to turn on or off, then why do I need to run AstroGPSLauncher to get the sats up for TomTom? Or is this just making a connection that already is live and leads TomTom to it?
P.S. I have seen CommManagers with a GPS icon in the past. Maybe even on one of your ROM's dcd.
Well hohnan - It's very different situation than the other things you turn on and off in the Comm Manager...
IE: when you turn off Bluetooth your really turning off the transmitter and shutting down the port (com usually) that the receiver uses to send data it recieves to the device...but the receiver stays on.
The GPS location off feature is similar in the respect that it does not transfer data it receives to the rest of the phone because the com port is shut down. There is no radio transmitter being used at all. I'm willing to bet that they use a single Radio receiver for all the radio signals the unit can see (Cell BT WiFi GPS). So by shutting location to 911 only your GPS is still receiving Sat data and running (cause it can see the sat transmissions) but it simply doesn't send the data anywhere as there is no port to communicate with.
I think the primer app your running is simply initializing the communications between the radio and the phone so that Tom Tom can use it.
I suspect in due time both Tom Tom and Garmin will be more aware of the built in GPS settings of WM6 and negate the need to run something else before it will work.
This will be a question and answer post.
My wifi automatically turned on while making a call, it was driving me insane. There is another thread for the Tilt 2 on this, but it never answered the question. It is also more relevant here.
The answer to solve this, by turning off Wireless-N mode or enabling automatic data disconnect.
I recently changed settings in touch tools; a lot of them. I noticed shortly after that by wifi kept on enabling itself automatically whenever I made a call. It drove me crazy, because I had to switch it off. It also wasn't good for my battery life.
I wish I could be more of a help, but at least you know where to start. I'll try and post back as soon as I am less busy.
settings wireless control, and switch off wifi?
There is a cab or maybe just a hack somewhere on the forum that auto switches it off or run on 2g only maybe?
johnerz said:
settings wireless control, and switch off wifi?
There is a cab or maybe just a hack somewhere on the forum that auto switches it off or run on 2g only maybe?
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Thank you for your response.
My problem was that whenever I made a phone call the wifi would automatically activate. So imagine having to turn wifi off after each phone call. (I make a lot of calls during the day. Not only that but it briefly interferes with my calls (people have told me they heard something) and drains the battery life a lot more especially if I use the speaker.
I have fixed the problem though just by turning wireless-n mode off. I had turned it on for faster webpages, but really on wifi I don't need it.
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If i leave gps on.... and all the apps i have that may use gps (travel, voucher etc) do not run in the back ground,
except google maps.... will this really drain random battery throughout the day.
The reason I ask this is when using google maps...i see the gps symbol on the top of my phone, but once i back out of it...the symbol disappears, and when i go back into it to resume what i was doing the symbol turns back on and the gps has to find my location all over again.
Hence I come to the conclusion that the gps is not 'always on' when you don't need or (given you don't have any dodgy apps)
Then I could turn off googles location sharing thing, because if I am correct you need that on if you want to use location services without gps?
SGS2 uses sirfstar IV
http://www.sys-con.com/node/1822443
http://www.csr.com/products/25/sirfstariv-gsd4t
This is a modern GPS chip, it don't think it uses much battery. I've always GPS on and I've no battery issues. And I agree that it seems that the chip is set to some kind of standby when not in use so turning off the GPS in the settings (or notfication pull down) seems more like a privacy thing than power related.
Thanks for confirming. Will now try leaving gps on and location services off and see what happens. sometimes gps on its own takes a few extra seconds to locate you...might be annoying with certain apps
If you refuse location sharing you will not be able to use WIFI positioning service, but can still use cell tower positioning if your GPS is off. Personally I never use WPS since WIFI use a whole lot of power so I always keep it off. There are situations where it's useful (i.e. inside downtown can't get a GPS signal), so you can decide if you want it or not.
I usually keep my GPS off too, since when I open maps I just want to look at map, I don't need to know my exact location (and use the extra power).
My Galaxy S2 GPS sucks the battery life when I keep it on. My partner keeps his Galaxy S2 GPS on and the icon only comes on when something like Maps loads but immediatly goes away when you you exit Maps. Mine seems to stay on all the time and I can't see any obvious process running all of the time (except Maps). I monitor the battery usage with a tool and GPS is certainly running my battery down far quicker than if I turn it off.
Anyone else experiencing the same?
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My partner keeps his Galaxy S2 GPS on and the icon only comes on when something like Maps loads but immediatly goes away when you you exit Maps. Mine seems to stay on all the time and I can't see any obvious process running all of the time
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I have the GPS setting turned on all the time, but my GPS only really turns on when I open an app that uses GPS, like Maps or Facebook. Just like your partner.
I actually want to keep it on all the time... like yours
Can you send me your /etc/gps.conf and /etc/sirfgps.conf ?
I'm not sure if that's what control this behaviour.
Noed said:
I have the GPS setting turned on all the time, but my GPS only really turns on when I open an app that uses GPS, like Maps or Facebook. Just like your partner.
I actually want to keep it on all the time... like yours
Can you send me your /etc/gps.conf and /etc/sirfgps.conf ?
I'm not sure if that's what control this behaviour.
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I only had the gps.conf, not the sirfgps.conf file. Attached here.
I have to turn on GPS only when I need it for something and turn it off, otherwise it clearly drains my battery, in pretty quick fashion.
I had to rename it gps.txt to upload it.
Keeping GPS on is not draining your battery, because its realy turning on, only on application requests. Battery drain may come from some buggy app, which not close it GPS connection. You can easily see this by your GPS indicator. No indicator - no app using GPS atm - no battery drain, flashing indicator - GPS trying to lock ur position, indicator on - GPS is used and got lock on sattelites.
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its realy turning on, only on application requests
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Is there a way to keep GPS always on, independent of an application request?
I want to control it on/off manually
I leave GPS on all the time. Only works when apps request / need it. No battery life issues for me.
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biggest battery hog, which do you guys think kills battery more having the wifi on and connected or having the bluetooth on and connected? trying to figure out best way to save battery througout the night but with keeping watch on for time since i do not have an alarm clock next to bed and dont feel like rolling over to look at the phone all the time. but like to have watch bluetooth connected to phone with swapps link incase an important call comes in while im sleeping.
If i had a sim in the watch at one point but am now using the bluetooth rom if i turn off the sim card since its not detected anyway would that help with the battery life issue?
Would love to setup a tasker profile to auto shut off either bluetooth or wifi just not sure which is killing more battery.
Thanks,
There's ap App called Llama, not sure if it'll work on the Omate.
Try it out it does all sorts of tasker type stuff.
simple1i said:
There's ap App called Llama, not sure if it'll work on the Omate.
Try it out it does all sorts of tasker type stuff.
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Llama works fine on the TS
I use it to deactivate wifi when leaving home and set wifi policy to turn off shortly after screen is off.
However, leaving wifi on is not draining much, I have borrowed one it is on for many days when not used. Not sure about BT.
(Using Loki's tweaks.)
What drains the battery is using any radio or the GPS and of course the screen, so deactivating sync is helping.
Will be sure to disable the gps hopefully that helps turned off SIM card slot also. What's the difference between this llama app and tasker? Is it smaller or something? I use tasker on my watch and it runs awesome.
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Ok Allow me to explain.
I am sure there will be naysayers saying it isn't possible or attribute it to placebo effect or whatever.
I am having really sensitive issues with my Samsung galaxy S2.
Before I had a simple nokia. I didn't use it as much, and I didn't experience any discomfort.
Now with my S2 I am feeling pains/stings, in my stomach, brain, teeth, heart, eyes, legs, fingers.
I know how it sounds, but that's appearently how sensitive I am.
I know it is caused by the device, but I don't know what causes it. For example wifi feature, basic call/receive- cell phone technology something else or a combination.. I didn't test this as much.
Even if I am doing something else and someone *activates their phone* meaning the screen lits up, and I don't even see the person doing it.
I know usually very quickly that a phone is nearby.
So when the phone screen is dark. I don't experience it as much, more so when it is in *usermode*.
Anyway I don't wanna sell it because I don't know exactly what is causing it and it cost me 300 euro's. I still have my basic Samsung for calls.
I still want to use it for mp3 playback because I like the way it works + some offline games.
So my question here is. I already disabled wifi+ mobile data+bluetooth icon
Is there a way to de-activate the MOST components other then what I need to use the mp3 player+ play plats vs zombies for example.
I want to de-activate or freeze everything with Titanium backup tool or maybe you guys know a better way?
Please assist me in what is safe to freeze.
look at the stickied thread in themes n apps section.. :good:
This is not helping my friend.
I need someone who knows what they are talking about.
I want to shut down every service/ app that may communicate any kind of signal, mobile/wifi.
Does the Samsung really not put out any wifi signal when u press off the icon?
What services may block incoming calls or "checking" connecting to the airwaves/network.
Basically I want the telephone dead of emitting anything..
I don't care about normal apps that don't use any kind of emittance.
Hi chrisssj2,
When you press off the icon it just shuts down wifi so no it doesnt put out any wifi signal.
The best and safest way is just to freeze apps since you have to do more work when you accidently deleted an neccesary app.
The service that does checking connecting to mobile network is telephony/ril service, I dont know the exact name how samsung calls it but you can use airplane mode since it disables simcard/mobilenetwork and it disables wifi.
You could also disable bluetooth and location services/gps.
It seems that you are very, very sensitive to electronic devices.
There is also probably also a list of applications what you can disable on your galaxy s2 but I cant find it for you since my browser on my tablet (chrome) updated and now bugs like hell.
Did you already went to a doctor or maybe googled on internet about your sensitivity for electronic devices? Maybe there is like a temporary fix or a solution for that problem like some kind of case which reduces it so it won't irritate you.
Hello,
How do I use airplane mode? I have heard of this but I have never used such thing.
I have wifi gps, vibrate, screen rotate, blue tooth. mobile data, power saving, sync .
Only things on are powersaving, vibrate and sync. (not sure what sync does)
No I haven't. Because I know it isn't an accepted thing... you know people calling you crazy and all..
I read they have stickers for it, but there also naysayers on this.. not sure.
I also have disabled wifi on my internet router. I hope the signal is really 100% off when you do this. So I can really test how Ill feel.
I did not find this "telephony/ril service"...
I am not overreacting because I have been annoying on it for like 1 year now (got the phone almost 2 years now.) And I just seem to get more sensitive to it.. and have been ignoring it, but now something said enough is enough..
Anyway I took out the sim and put it in my simple nokia phone.
I will be so happy if I not get electrocuted by my phone and can listen music on it ^^
Very important to me, I like it way better then a normal mp3 player.