EPE54B vs ERE36B file analysis (via Deltawalker) - Nexus One Android Development

In case anyone's interested...
http://content.modaco.net/EPE54BvsERE36B.html
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Can anyone tell us little people what this means?

i think the blue highlighted lines are the changed files

Yeah, do tell in layman terms to us "smallies" ;-)
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White = matching, green = changed.
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Interesting to note a file for AT&T compatability in this build!
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paulobrien said:
Interesting to note a file for AT&T compatability in this build!
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Wonder what that addition does.

jchap2k said:
Wonder what that addition does.
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maybe it support at&t 3g
i can dream

Nobody seem to have noticed that EPE54B is signed with test-keys and ERE36B with release keys...
Are the apk's also not throwing a lot of useless debug output ?

Not running it!
In my experience most of android throws out useless debug crap.
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hjlow said:
maybe it support at&t 3g
i can dream
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Won't happen on the devices released to the public because our radio isn't capable of using the ATT3G bands, but they may be releasing a flavor that's compatible with ATT.
Just a guess.

tokyomonster said:
Won't happen on the devices released to the public because our radio isn't capable of using the ATT3G bands, but they may be releasing a flavor that's compatible with ATT.
Just a guess.
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Couldn't this just be resolved with a radio update from Google. I mean GSM is GSM, it's about receiving the right bandwidth which is controlled by the radio. Unless I am missing something, I believe google could push out an update for the radio that supported both TMO and ATT's 3G bandwidth.

You need the right antennas. Hardware.
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paulobrien said:
You need the right antennas. Hardware.
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That's too bad...

Since we're on the subject...will ATT's radio support TMobile bands?

SiNJiN76 said:
Since we're on the subject...will ATT's radio support TMobile bands?
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No, ATT and t-mobile run their 3G on complete different bands, so there's no compatibility between the two with existing hardware(that I know of).
Of course voice and EDGE will still function fine on the same phone between both carriers, but you'll need a phone that supports the specific bands for the carrier you're intending to use 3G on if you want it to work.

tokyomonster said:
No, ATT and t-mobile run their 3G on complete different bands, so there's no compatibility between the two with existing hardware(that I know of).
Of course voice and EDGE will still function fine on the same phone between both carriers, but you'll need a phone that supports the specific bands for the carrier you're intending to use 3G on if you want it to work.
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I'm sure he was just pulling your leg... no one's stupid enough to ask that question when it's been answered repeatedly, most recently two posts above his own.

Related

[Q] Activate GSM/WCDMA Radios

Would it be possible to activate the GSM/WCDMA radios of this phone?
Eh?
2 versions of this phone.
1. VZW version aka the DROID RAZR/XT912 --> CDMA/LTE radio
2. Global version aka MOTO RAZR/XT910 --> GSM/WCDMA/HSPA
matthew5025 said:
Eh?
2 versions of this phone.
1. VZW version aka the DROID RAZR/XT912 --> CDMA/LTE radio
2. Global version aka MOTO RAZR/XT910 --> GSM/WCDMA/HSPA
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Both versions have a GSM/WCDMA/HSPA chipset, but GSM capability has been disabled in the Verizon phone. Interestingly, the RAZR uses the Qualcomm MDM6600...which is capable of all the aforementioned networks.
As for activating the GSM radio in the Verizon version... my guess is that it will require a custom kernel of some sort...
blkrabb1t said:
Both versions have a GSM/WCDMA/HSPA chipset, but GSM capability has been disabled in the Verizon phone. Interestingly, the RAZR uses the Qualcomm MDM6600...which is capable of all the aforementioned networks.
As for activating the GSM radio in the Verizon version... my guess is that it will require a custom kernel of some sort...
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The RAZR uses the TI OMAP4430, which doesn't have any built-in radios. There's no reason why the Verizon version should have GSM/WCDMA radios.
Chirality said:
The RAZR uses the TI OMAP4430, which doesn't have any built-in radios. There's no reason why the Verizon version should have GSM/WCDMA radios.
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The MDM6600 is actually a modem, and not a SoC if that's what you were thinking. It's used on all of Verizon's current global phones, including the iPhone.
From the FCC on the Bionic:
The WCDMA/GSM network functions have been disabled by the firmware and are SIM locked by all US operators on this product.
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And Anandtech:
...This power amp is actually quad band 850/900/1800/1900 MHz. In its shipping form, the Bionic is limited to just 850/1900 for CDMA2000 in the USA, however, I have very little doubt this device could also be used with WCDMA on all four bands with some tweaking. FCC documents also talk about WCDMA functionality being disabled...
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I was thinking along the same lines.
I have a Photon and the GSM bands are locked from being used on other US carriers. There have beem discussions that the radio files are what need to be changed/hacked. I wonder if the premise would be the same as I'd love to make this a global phone...
blkrabb1t said:
Both versions have a GSM/WCDMA/HSPA chipset, but GSM capability has been disabled in the Verizon phone. Interestingly, the RAZR uses the Qualcomm MDM6600...which is capable of all the aforementioned networks.
As for activating the GSM radio in the Verizon version... my guess is that it will require a custom kernel of some sort...
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Read here: http://developer.motorola.com/products/droid-razr-xt912/
Chirality said:
The RAZR uses the TI OMAP4430, which doesn't have any built-in radios. There's no reason why the Verizon version should have GSM/WCDMA radios.
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blkrabb1t said:
The MDM6600 is actually a modem, and not a SoC if that's what you were thinking. It's used on all of Verizon's current global phones, including the iPhone.
From the FCC on the Bionic:
And Anandtech:
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Bah, Qualcomm's model numbers totally threw me off...
Beach_Head said:
Read here: http://developer.motorola.com/products/droid-razr-xt912/
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If its listed under the official specs, shouldn't the phone have it?
matthew5025 said:
If its listed under the official specs, shouldn't the phone have it?
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Yes, unless someone disabled the function. .. which is what Verizon did.
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Hmmm... there doesn't seem to be much interest in this.
Modifying AMSS is really dangerous and I don't think it will be possible even after a bootloader unlock as radio is protected with another "lock code". It should be unlocked only on Engineering devices.
Would it be possible to load the radios of the GSM version onto it?
kholk said:
Modifying AMSS is really dangerous and I don't think it will be possible even after a bootloader unlock as radio is protected with another "lock code". It should be unlocked only on Engineering devices.
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Beach_Head said:
Would it be possible to load the radios of the GSM version onto it?
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I dont think so...this might "permabrick' your phone.
I've been watching this thread really closely, cos i'd really love to use this phone but i have Tmobile.
Beach_Head said:
Would it be possible to load the radios of the GSM version onto it?
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If there is one thing that Moto locks its boot loader, it's specifically for that.
From what I remember, Moto has some proprietary stuff there, so cracking that will get you into a lot of legal trouble...
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blkrabb1t said:
Yes, unless someone disabled the function. .. which is what Verizon did.
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Wait... What? Why would someone disable such a huge feature? Also, if motorola says a phone has GSM radio and it doesn't can't you complain?
Loading GSM radio on it won't brick it as the chip is the same, MDM6600.
The problem is loading it: the different radio bootloader (that isn't the AP bootloader that is being unlocked with ICS update) signature won't allow you to.
So this is a dead end?
kholk said:
Loading GSM radio on it won't brick it as the chip is the same, MDM6600.
The problem is loading it: the different radio bootloader (that isn't the AP bootloader that is being unlocked with ICS update) signature won't allow you to.
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I am very interested in this!
I travel a lot and need gsm access in Europe and Asia.
I am tired of carrying two phones and trying to keep them synced.
With all of the smart people here we can't figure this out?
I remember enabling the fourth band on my Moto GSM E6 rokr, which was also turned off by the carrier.
feel free to correct me if I'm wrong
But from what I understand, the phone is capable of utilizing gsm as well as cdma out of the box. Otherwise when you went to other countries you would not be able to use the phone. But verizon has agreements with various providers around the world to provide gsm service. And I seem to recall seeing on my device info page, while on my my verizon online access for my bionic, a number listed as the sim puk unlock code. Which may or may not unlock the phone for other sim cards, but I distinctly recall seeing it there. So check your device info page on my verizon. I just thought I'd share because some of the answers get overlooked because people simply don't try the proper channels. Myself included. For instance, who knew that the reset procedure for the razr is explained on the 2nd page of the user manual? I had already google'd it before reading it in both the printed manual and the built in help file.

Canadian vs AT&T Note

I read few posts where they hint the AT&T Note is missing few features/apps that exist in the Canadian version (Rogers/Bell/Telus). Can someone with AT&T phone confirm the availability of these items on their phone:
1) Wifi Direct
2) Kies via Wfi
3) Tethering
4) NFC
5) Photo Editor
6) S Planner
Thanks.
zaptor99 said:
I read few posts where they hint the AT&T Note is missing few features/apps that exist in the Canadian version (Rogers/Bell/Telus). Can someone with AT&T phone confirm the availability of these items on their phone:
1) Wifi Direct
2) Kies via Wfi
3) Tethering
4) NFC
5) Photo Editor
6) S Planner
Thanks.
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1) Not sure
2) Not sure
3) Yes, but you will be charged unless you root and delete Teather ,amager
4)Yes, but its disabled at the moment
5) No
^) The AT&T calendar is like it
Orange_furball said:
1) Not sure
2) Not sure
3) Yes, but you will be charged unless you root and delete Teather ,amager
4)Yes, but its disabled at the moment
5) No
^) The AT&T calendar is like it
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The Wifi direct and Kies Wifi can be found under Settings|Wireless and Network
Yeah, has anyone tried flashing a Canadian rom on the at&t version? It annoys me that I can't use the hardware I paid for.
MSigler said:
Yeah, has anyone tried flashing a Canadian rom on the at&t version? It annoys me that I can't use the hardware I paid for.
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It might work, I have a Canada Rogers Note and its says "1717" on the box.
Thats why I am hanging around this forum, I don't know where else to go lmao. I believe there is only this forum and the one for the international Note...am I wrong?
Adreno said:
It might work, I have a Canada Rogers Note and its says "1717" on the box.
Thats why I am hanging around this forum, I don't know where else to go lmao. I believe there is only this forum and the one for the international Note...am I wrong?
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You're in the correct forum.
Adreno said:
It might work, I have a Canada Rogers Note and its says "1717" on the box.
Thats why I am hanging around this forum, I don't know where else to go lmao. I believe there is only this forum and the one for the international Note...am I wrong?
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This is definitely the right forum. The phones are nearly identical except for a few little things. All the Roms and mods should work the same on our phones other than we might have to change to modem to work with our carriers.
adamtrace said:
This is definitely the right forum. The phones are nearly identical except for a few little things. All the Roms and mods should work the same on our phones other than we might have to change to modem to work with our carriers.
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MSigler said:
You're in the correct forum.
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Thanks guys.
The Forum name is confusing though...nothing against AT&T and its users but its really confusing and I was unsure if the roms, mods, etc would work on my device. But I was pretty sure there were only 2 versions basically so thats why I stuck around.
On a side note, I had owned the Galaxy Nexus and picked up the Note to compare the two to see what one I'd keep and what one I'd sell. Well the Note stuck around so you can see what I chose! Amazing device, can't wait for development to really pick up...if you are into digital art, games and media this thing is a dream!
re cdn vs us note
Yeah I was thinking that I'm kinda scared to use any roms made from the AT&T version on my canadian note, for fear of loosing functionality that I already have.
I hope the great developers here take that into account and offer Canadian ROMs
zaptor99 said:
I read few posts where they hint the AT&T Note is missing few features/apps that exist in the Canadian version (Rogers/Bell/Telus). Can someone with AT&T phone confirm the availability of these items on their phone:
1) Wifi Direct
2) Kies via Wfi
3) Tethering
4) NFC
5) Photo Editor
6) S Planner
Thanks.
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I'm with Telus.
1) yes
2) yes
3) yes
4) yes, but not working
5) yes
6) yes
PLUS, it doesn't have the carrier logo/brand on the phone like the AT&T one.
I believe you can add remote controls to the list, found under settings/location and security/find my mobile, apparantly at&t had that removed for there own version of phone tracking, i havent tried it, but the option is on mine
Are you sure your nfc doesnt work? I can enable mine, i just havent tried it yet. Will try it today at work
Mine is rogers
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zaptor99 said:
I read few posts where they hint the AT&T Note is missing few features/apps that exist in the Canadian version (Rogers/Bell/Telus). Can someone with AT&T phone confirm the availability of these items on their phone:
1) Wifi Direct
2) Kies via Wfi
3) Tethering
4) NFC
5) Photo Editor
6) S Planner
Thanks.
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I'm on the AT&T Note:
1) Yes.
2) Yes.
3) Yes, requires root or tether plan on AT&T.
4) Yes, not enabled.
5) Yes, found it looking through titanium backup, appears to be disabled though.
6) Yes, labeled calendar though.
1700 MHZ LTE disabled on ATT
I have noticed that the ATT Note does not work on Rogers LTE network. I think its because it does not have 1700 MHZ enabled for LTE . Perhaps ATT version only has 700 enabled for LTE.
EVOO2 said:
I have noticed that the ATT Note does not work on Rogers LTE network. I think its because it does not have 1700 MHZ enabled for LTE . Perhaps ATT version only has 700 enabled for LTE.
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Nope, the AT&T version uses both 700 class 17 and the AWS (1700/2100) bands for LTE. I don't know what band the Roger's LTE network uses, but if it is AWS (1700/2100) and the AT&T Note you are using is unlocked, then it will pick it up.

What are the differences between the verizon and at&t note 2

Besides the obvious model number, what are the differences in hardware and firmware between the two.
They seem identical my cousin has the galaxy note 2 at&t and I have the i605 Verizon gn2 maybe the network receivers are different
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drarkanex said:
Besides the obvious model number, what are the differences in hardware and firmware between the two.
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A lot...Verizon (and Sprint) uses CDMA frequencies and radios and AT&T (and T-Mobile) uses GSM frequencies and radios
KennyG123 said:
A lot...Verizon (and Sprint) uses CDMA frequencies and radios and AT&T (and T-Mobile) uses GSM frequencies and radios
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I understand the obvious here but I currently have the verizon 605 and I'm on at&t so it would seem that it can be on any carrier considering the n2 uses a lot of freqs. I'm talking about actual hardware differences. I might need to do some research on my own with this one. But if anyone else can help with this would be appreciated.
drarkanex said:
I understand the obvious here but I currently have the verizon 605 and I'm on at&t so it would seem that it can be on any carrier considering the n2 uses a lot of freqs. I'm talking about actual hardware differences. I might need to do some research on my own with this one. But if anyone else can help with this would be appreciated.
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Verizon model doesn't have what it needs to be on AT&T LTE. I believe the way the memory is partitioned is different as well.
Just out of curiosity, why are you wanting to know?
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BluGuy said:
Verizon model doesn't have what it needs to be on AT&T LTE. I believe the way the memory is partitioned is different as well.
Just out of curiosity, why are you wanting to know?
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I am a hardware guy. I'm also considering finding out how they tick and make my own custom rom to maybe figure this out and streamline a rom that will be custom only to the note 2 regardless of carrier. i mean its out there that the note 2 will work on any carrier regardless of model because I'm on my 605 running an att rom on att carrier.
drarkanex said:
I understand the obvious here but I currently have the verizon 605 and I'm on at&t so it would seem that it can be on any carrier considering the n2 uses a lot of freqs. I'm talking about actual hardware differences. I might need to do some research on my own with this one. But if anyone else can help with this would be appreciated.
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The main differences are the included radios
Verizon: http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=3926
AT&T: http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=3918
Of course firmware will be very different because of interfacing with the radios
KennyG123 said:
The main differences are the included radios
Verizon: http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=3926
AT&T: http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=3918
Of course firmware will be very different because of interfacing with the radios
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^ Thanks for this.
Thinking out loud here, not sure why Samsung wouldn't be able to have one radio that can handle all those different LTE bands. Perhaps this is intentional based on requests from US carriers?
devious_z said:
^ Thanks for this.
Thinking out loud here, not sure why Samsung wouldn't be able to have one radio that can handle all those different LTE bands. Perhaps this is intentional based on requests from US carriers?
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Yes...that sounds like something they would request to try and keep you tied to their carrier or make you buy one of their phones when moving to them.
devious_z said:
^ Thanks for this.
Thinking out loud here, not sure why Samsung wouldn't be able to have one radio that can handle all those different LTE bands. Perhaps this is intentional based on requests from US carriers?
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KennyG123 said:
Yes...that sounds like something they would request to try and keep you tied to their carrier or make you buy one of their phones when moving to them.
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Hmm I am confused here.. doesn't the Verizon note 2 have both GSM and CDMA capabilities, that why is considered a World phone..
I'm pretty certain the main differences is firmare and not hardware. I'll have to check those links Kenny..
I know of people running t mobile on a Verizon note 2 that have everything working perfectly fine and t mobile is GSM. Pop the Sim in, switch mobile networks to GSM, maybe edit apns for lte..but I don't even thunk that is needed once the GSM Sim is in place. This unlocks the add apn feature under access points
lacoursiere18 said:
Hmm I am confused here.. doesn't the Verizon note 2 have both GSM and CDMA capabilities, that why is considered a World phone..
I'm pretty certain the main differences is firmare and not hardware. I'll have to check those links Kenny..
I know of people running t mobile on a Verizon note 2 that have everything working perfectly fine and t mobile is GSM. Pop the Sim in, switch mobile networks to GSM, maybe edit apns for lte..but I don't even thunk that is needed once the GSM Sim is in place. This unlocks the add apn feature under access points
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Yes, look at the specs...it has GSM radio too with some frequencies. And no, you cannot flash AT&T firmware on a Verizon phone and have a perfectly working AT&T phone.
KennyG123 said:
Yes, look at the specs...it has GSM radio too with some frequencies. And no, you cannot flash AT&T firmware on a Verizon phone and have a perfectly working AT&T phone.
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No I know that.. I am not saying flashing att firmware would work out of the box, so they say.. I am aware of what it takes to port different firmwares
I'm saying using a att or t mobile Sim is possible.. maybe I wondered off the op's topic here..sorry about that
drarkanex said:
I am a hardware guy. I'm also considering finding out how they tick and make my
own custom rom to maybe figure this out and streamline a rom that will be custom only to the note 2 regardless of carrier. i mean its out there that the note 2 will work on any carrier regardless of model because I'm on my 605 running an att rom on att carrier.
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This is possible.. but not without a pretty intense aroma installer..you'll need to separate different csc features, apps, frameworks, permissions, libs, build.props and vender folders. .but yea. Would be a pretty big task and knowledge of all the carriers
lacoursiere18 said:
I know of people running t mobile on a Verizon note 2 that have everything working perfectly fine and t mobile is GSM. Pop the Sim in, switch mobile networks to GSM, maybe edit apns for lte..but I don't even thunk that is needed once the GSM Sim is in place. This unlocks the add apn feature under access points
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Thank you for this tidbit of info. I'm currently trying to figure a way to get my old VZW Note 2 working on Straight Talk for my Dad, who's currently using a 3" Samsung something-or-other P.O.S. I'm going to get the AT&T version of the Straight Talk SIM and try it out since some have reported success with it. If not that one, then maybe the T-Mobile one.
I'll post back with my results (5-10 business days for delivery--yikes!)
P.S. Anyone else out there have a recommendation for a ROM to use for this? I'm going to go with something 4.1.x because I've read that later versions won't work. Jedi X maybe?

Two Questions

1. Does Black Shark 3 Pro support HDMI out via usb-c?
2. Does it support volte in the USA at all?
Would appreciate answers as I'm considering this device but can't find answers to these two questions anywhere.
It supports HDMI to type C and they have an official cable for that..
Check the frequencies supported by the unit you will be buying.. For reference, check GSM arena for that
oberio28 said:
It supports HDMI to type C and they have an official cable for that..
Check the frequencies supported by the unit you will be buying.. For reference, check GSM arena for that
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Thanks.
I know it supports the correct LTE frequencies, but I've had Chinese phones before that didn't get volte.
To be fair, I use cricket because I don't care much about data speeds, and maybe they only allow specific phones to get volte. I just want to make sure I don't buy and then have a useless phone by next year.
Thanks for the reply!
misterk267 said:
Thanks.
I know it supports the correct LTE frequencies, but I've had Chinese phones before that didn't get volte.
To be fair, I use cricket because I don't care much about data speeds, and maybe they only allow specific phones to get volte. I just want to make sure I don't buy and then have a useless phone by next year.
Thanks for the reply!
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Volte works in US. It is missing some bands though. I dont get great service in some areas.
bs3pro said:
Volte works in US. It is missing some bands though. I dont get great service in some areas.
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Thanks man, think I'm going to get it. Global version I'm looking at has every band I need, and I kind of want the massive screen more than the ROG3's superior specs.
misterk267 said:
Thanks man, think I'm going to get it. Global version I'm looking at has every band I need, and I kind of want the massive screen more than the ROG3's superior specs.
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Yes, cricket(ATT) you should have all bands. You might have an issue with volte though. ATT...errr cricket a real PITA with getting volte. I love the phone, other than missing some key tmo bands
bs3pro said:
Yes, cricket(ATT) you should have all bands. You might have an issue with volte though. ATT...errr cricket a real PITA with getting volte. I love the phone, other than missing some key tmo bands
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Am actually going to move to mint I think, the volte thing has been annoying me for awhile. Are you missing bands for tmobile because you have the Chinese version? Because I checked the global and it has 2, 4, and 17 which appear to be the main ones.
Do you mind if I ask your personal opinion on the battery life? You seem like you've had it awhile ?
misterk267 said:
Am actually going to move to mint I think, the volte thing has been annoying me for awhile. Are you missing bands for tmobile because you have the Chinese version? Because I checked the global and it has 2, 4, and 17 which appear to be the main ones.
Do you mind if I ask your personal opinion on the battery life? You seem like you've had it awhile ?
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Batt life is insane. On mint you will be missing b 66 and 71. Same as tmo. I do at times, especially mediocre areas, have no signal, while my wifes phone has a signal. I guess i will deal with it. Overall i love the phone.

(ROOT) Enable T-mobile voLTE on Rog Phone 3

https://www.xda-developers.com/how-to-enable-t-mobile-volte-vowifi-on-asus-smartphones-root/
Click the link and follow the guide. That should work on the international one(model a). Maybe someone can try it on the tencent version(model b) flashed with the Global rom and try the guide. This should enable you to activate it on T-mobile after they stated that a phone needs to be compatible with voLTE in order to activate and use it on T-mobile that started on August 27th. I don't have the phone to test so if it worked for you, please mention what version of the phone you have here for potential buyers. Thanks.
Sugaaa said:
https://www.xda-developers.com/how-to-enable-t-mobile-volte-vowifi-on-asus-smartphones-root/
Click the link and follow the guide. That should work on the international one(model a). Maybe someone can try it on the tencent version(model b) flashed with the Global rom and try the guide. This should enable you to activate it on T-mobile after they stated that a phone needs to be compatible with voLTE in order to activate and use it on T-mobile that started on August 27th. I don't have the phone to test so if it worked for you, please mention what version of the phone you have here for potential buyers. Thanks.
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Root is not needed, just the build.prop edits. I made a how to, but got spammed and flamed, so deleted it. It will work on both versions with ww sw.
bs3pro said:
Root is not needed, just the build.prop edits. I made a how to, but got spammed and flamed, so deleted it. It will work on both versions with ww sw.
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So if one were to pick up an A version and use this method and then down the line there is an OTA update for volte in the US would there be a conflict?
bs3pro said:
Root is not needed, just the build.prop edits. I made a how to, but got spammed and flamed, so deleted it. It will work on both versions with ww sw.
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Thats interesting. The guide mentions that you need root. Also, how compatible is model b tencent version with T-Mobile? They're missing a lot of bands. For 5g, it only has band 41 2.5GHz which hasn't even been fully released yet. It's missing band 71 600 MHz and the other 260 and 261 bands for 5G high speed mmwave.
For 4G LTE, it's missing bands 66, 12, and 71.
TehAdventurer said:
So if one were to pick up an A version and use this method and then down the line there is an OTA update for volte in the US would there be a conflict?
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If i had to take an educated guess, the update would overwrite the previous settings. However, if it messes it up, we could probably reflash the stock rom and update it normally or flash an updated stock rom.
TehAdventurer said:
So if one were to pick up an A version and use this method and then down the line there is an OTA update for volte in the US would there be a conflict?
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Sugaaa said:
Thats interesting. The guide mentions that you need root. Also, how compatible is model b tencent version with T-Mobile? They're missing a lot of bands. For 5g, it only has band 41 2.5GHz which hasn't even been fully released yet. It's missing band 71 600 MHz and the other 260 and 261 bands for 5G high speed mmwave.
For 4G LTE, it's missing bands 66, 12, and 71.
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Ota won't cause a conflict. I'm using version a on TMO, and it works better than my s20ultra.
bs3pro said:
Ota won't cause a conflict. I'm using version a on TMO, and it works better than my s20ultra.
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Where did you get model a? Hopefully somewhere where it's not too expensive. I'm looking for 12gb ram 256gb. At the same time, I want to wait for u.s version release that should come out at the end of this month, maybe they might include mmwave bands for 5g and more compatible 4g lte bands at a good price.
Sugaaa said:
Where did you get model a? Hopefully somewhere where it's not too expensive. I'm looking for 12gb ram 256gb. At the same time, I want to wait for u.s version release that should come out at the end of this month, maybe they might include mmwave bands for 5g and more compatible 4g lte bands at a good price.
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No mw bands on rog3, even "us" version. You will have to buy the 12gb 512 for version a. Big bucks, $1k. Waiting for us version is a waste of time. I got my a version a month ago on ebay.
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No mw bands on rog3, even "us" version. You will have to buy the 12gb 512 for version a. Big bucks, $1k. Waiting for us version is a waste of time. I got my a version a month ago on ebay.
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Ebay is full of the Chinese ones now with the rom. I've seen the model a on aliexpress and i don't have to pay tax but the wait time is going to be crap for it.
The only sure way to know its the a version is the prism box and free cooler inside right? Also do you have a link to check the 5g and 4g lte bands on the model a or is it the same as the u.s version model a? I can't find accurate bands anywhere for the international.
The only thing that worries me with getting the international a version is t-mobile coming out with a whitelist like at&t and not officially supporting the rog 3 which would make it useless on their network.
Sugaaa said:
Ebay is full of the Chinese ones now with the rom. I've seen the model a on aliexpress and i don't have to pay tax but the wait time is going to be crap for it.
The only sure way to know its the a version is the prism box and free cooler inside right? Also do you have a link to check the 5g and 4g lte bands on the model a or is it the same as the u.s version model a? I can't find accurate bands anywhere for the international.
The only thing that worries me with getting the international a version is t-mobile coming out with a whitelist like at&t and not officially supporting the rog 3 which would make it useless on their network.
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TMO has no white list for volte/wifi like att, and never will. Gotta buy the prism box, yes. And all version A's have same exact bands. I get great service on my rog3, even sa5g now that TMO enabled it. Btw, vowifi works too.
bs3pro said:
Root is not needed, just the build.prop edits. I made a how to, but got spammed and flamed, so deleted it. It will work on both versions with ww sw.
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I can confirm this works without rooting, thanks! I have version b with ww ROM
alane708 said:
I can confirm this works without rooting, thanks! I have version b with ww ROM
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Did you get both voLTE and voWiFi working? and is receiving/ making calls stable? Or bad reception in some areas?
Sugaaa said:
Did you get both voLTE and voWiFi working? and is receiving/ making calls stable? Or bad reception in some areas?
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Yeah, it sometimes shows VoLTE, and sometimes shows Vowifi , I am pretty sure it's working because I noticed the call quality is much better and it does show in phone info as well. I never experience any signal issues, well yet
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bs3pro said:
Root is not needed, just the build.prop edits. I made a how to, but got spammed and flamed, so deleted it. It will work on both versions with ww sw.
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What exactly are the build.prop edits? I failed to enter diagnostic mode by both usb and remote methods. I have dowloaded the QPST config, drivers, and the asus volte app as suggested.
XxDMDxX said:
What exactly are the build.prop edits? I failed to enter diagnostic mode by both usb and remote methods. I have dowloaded the QPST config, drivers, and the asus volte app as suggested.
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None of that is needed. Just build.prop edits in adb.
WiFi Calling on TMO?
bs3pro said:
Ota won't cause a conflict. I'm using version a on TMO, and it works better than my s20ultra.
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Have you been able to use WiFi calling on T-Mobile? If so, did it come with the update that included VoLTE or did you achieve that another way?
Copperbear said:
Have you been able to use WiFi calling on T-Mobile? If so, did it come with the update that included VoLTE or did you achieve that another way?
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It worked with the build.prop edits, but the newest update has enabled volte and wifi calling. No edits needed.
bs3pro said:
It worked with the build.prop edits, but the newest update has enabled volte and wifi calling. No edits needed.
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Hi,
Any idea where I can find the details about this build.prop edits. I am on Telstra Australia. I tried the efstools method and it only shows critical error bad command. Both on cable and on remote.
Thank You
bs3pro said:
Root is not needed, just the build.prop edits. I made a how to, but got spammed and flamed, so deleted it. It will work on both versions with ww sw.
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How about you can send me a private message since I want to know how to activate the volte without being root, I would appreciate it very much, excuse the English I use Google translator
bs3pro said:
Root is not needed, just the build.prop edits. I made a how to, but got spammed and flamed, so deleted it. It will work on both versions with ww sw.
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Hi can you send me a private message since I want to know how to activate the volte without being root, I would appreciate it very much, excuse the English I use Google translator

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