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On my Vibrant Swype, it had a voice button that was very convenient...I notice that the Swype app on the MT4G does not include this button.
Anyone know of a way to add this functionality? I used to swap out Swype versions on my Vibrant, but lack of root and a compatible app might be needed to make this change, just curious if anyone knows or has tried with any success. Thanks!
I had the same button on my G2, and now it's gone. How do we get this back?
I love swipe but this is the only reason I don't use it. That's the only thing missing on swype
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I am wondering about this as well. I saw the demo at the store had it, but I couldnt find it here on my phone.
Hmm
I have a version with the mic, but can't figure out how to install it. I was using it on my n1. Can't over ride the system Version
as far as i know, the reason it is not being included is due to a security flaw. i forgot where i read it
I tweeted swype asking them if it was tmo and the genius button were to blame for no mic button and their reply was " yup "
you also cant see voice search (which no includes voice actions=similar to the genius button) in the stock launcher. If you use a replacement launcher such as adw you can use voice actions... waayyyy faster than genius button, sometime not accurate though..
anyway... SSSUUUUUCCCCKKKKSSSSSS to not have the mic button... bad decision TMO booo hisssss
Thanks for the reply, hopefully they work it out and add this back in...I used it all the time on my Vibrant, great feature...I noticed that I can't search by voice on the web browser either...they really want that keyboard to get used I guess!
EDIT: I just checked my wife's G2 and it has a voice icon in SWYPE and in the browser...so now I'm really confused why the MT4G doesn't have it...
EDIT2: never thought about the "genius" button as a reason...thanks for that!
So I rooted, deleted swype, installed G2 with mic button.. but not luck so far....incompatible... I requested a compatible version with the mic so hopefully they hook it up. If i figure out a way or find a version I will post a how to here.
worst case scenario, SlideIt seems on par with swype now, and have a mic (and you dont have to root to, just get it from the market)
Hey, not to be insulting, but when you installed the G2 Swype on the MY4G, did you replace both the APK and the libSwypeCore.so file (in system/lib)? I always had to replace both when I made changes before...sorry in advance if you already knew/did this...thanks!
thanks for the info.. i didnt know or try that, but it did not seem to help now that i have tried. ugh... stuck with slideIT for now. 8pen is free.. maybe ill try that again hehe. i did a nandroid first... but that first attempt to restore is always scary! especially without backup flashable roms hehe
*edit* god bless nandroid! wooo stock swype back... i think its time for some metamorph theming
I have a version I was using on my nexus with a mic on it, I'm rooted, backed up the one here, deleted, installed mine fine, but it doesn't work because it says it can find the English language pack. But now titanium won't put the original back. Ugh
Can someone upload the built in swype apk so I can push it back in?
"worst case scenario, SlideIt seems on par with swype now, and have a mic (and you dont have to root to, just get it from the market)"
Thanks for the idea, Kudos to you!
K9Healer said:
"worst case scenario, SlideIt seems on par with swype now, and have a mic (and you dont have to root to, just get it from the market)"
Thanks for the idea, Kudos to you!
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No prob, I found another solution.. I always was against this app but Handcent ..
Handcent gives you a mic in popup or by hitting menu a normal text.. so if you wanna stick with swype this would be your answer for now.. Handcent is highly customizable so you can keep it very close to stock if thats what you want.
I have bought the SG II and sofar sooner or later I want to get rid of the bloat ware. but for now I like to know whats the best email program.
With a BB all the mail came in one place and you could do anything from there. Is there something like that on a this phone or something I can download.
Also is there a program the lets you organize apps better. Their everywhere!!!
And how do you make the Voice commands work off of the double tap. The rep made it my search button holding it 2 sec. How did he do that?
Also last how do you syn laptop music?
danncas said:
I have bought the SG II and sofar sooner or later I want to get rid of the bloat ware. but for now I like to know whats the best email program.
With a BB all the mail came in one place and you could do anything from there. Is there something like that on a this phone or something I can download.
Also is there a program the lets you organize apps better. Their everywhere!!!
And how do you make the Voice commands work off of the double tap. The rep made it my search button holding it 2 sec. How did he do that?
Also last how do you syn laptop music?
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I'll do what I can to help you out.
Best email program - I only have exp with Gmail & TW email. I like them both
Organize programs - AppZorter
sync music - there are a bunch of software that can do it: Kies, Samsung Media something, Media Monkey. Google it & you'll probably get more results than I listed
here is a list for you buddy on what to remove and not to...
https://spreadsheets.google.com/spr...SENVeXlqUm5vV0E&single=true&gid=0&output=html
to get the apps sorted better i prefer using a different launcher. Launcher pro is the one i use but any of them will put them in alphabetical. Cant believe samsung dont have an option in touchwiz to do that, seems quite a basic omission.
email i just use the stock one but k9 email is also pretty good.
not sure what you mean by the voice commands, you should just tap the home button twice and the voice control screen comes up
Best email: K9 Mail.
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to get the apps sorted better i prefer using a different launcher. Launcher pro is the one i use but any of them will put them in alphabetical. Cant believe samsung dont have an option in touchwiz to do that, seems quite a basic omission.
email i just use the stock one but k9 email is also pretty good.
not sure what you mean by the voice commands, you should just tap the home button twice and the voice control screen comes up
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if you go in themes and apps you can find touchwiz were you can download and does all those features you just mentioned
Matriak31 said:
if you go in themes and apps you can find touchwiz were you can download and does all those features you just mentioned
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point is the standard everyday user shouldnt have to come to xda and download a modded theme just to get the app drawer showing alphabetical. Its a pretty standard request from everyone and a pretty big omission from samsung.
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point is the standard everyday user shouldnt have to come to xda and download a modded theme just to get the app drawer showing alphabetical. Its a pretty standard request from everyone and a pretty big omission from samsung.
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true and i fully agree with you and the way you sort folders in touchwiz is pretty **** compare to the go launcher..but still i think the update of touchwiz fixes all of that now
Hi guys, ive looked all around the web trying to find a solution but i cant say i found something yet so here it is.
I have a Nokia N900 right now and as much as i like it, its getting old, so im slowly looking for a new phone.
I feel like i might have been spoiled by the N900 multitasking and i want to know if my requirement for my new are possible to have.
So here it is: Is it possible to multitask with multiple instances of some applications? Really its only for email and sms, so i can for example copy text from one email, paste it in another one that is also open at the same time and can switch back and forth between them. In other words, can i have multiple sms/email conversations opened at the same time (one conversation with bob, one with jack, one with dave...) i often have more than 10-15 of them open at the same time on my n900 and if there would be only one reason for me to keep my phone it would be that.
I looked for multitasking apps with grid view hoping it would do that but from what i see you can only have one of those apps running at once anyway and it might seem crazy but for the number of time I switch between conversations on my n900, like i would using WLM for example, this could be a major dealbreaker for me if its not possible.
I'm sorry if it looks like a stupid question or something but ive completely missed the bus regarding android/ios/bb developpement as i used wm6.5 then switched directly to maemo5 2 years ago.
no one, really?
I don't think it works this way on Android, though you just might be able to find an app that does this.
thanks for the input
Sup Neo! I too went from the N900 to a GSII and I find myself not regretting it at all. There is no TRUE multitasking like the N900, at all from what I have found.
I'm not sure if any apps have been made available for such multi tasking, but I don't think anyone here who doesn't have N900 experience will understand what we mean.
Now it just needs an N900 writer to make something happen for android. Otherwise, I do NOT regret switching over, I absolutely love the speed and freedom of my new phone. The N900 was killing me on simple tasks like sending and receiving MMS, or connecting to the internet without destroying my battery life. No regrets.
neoblast said:
Hi guys, ive looked all around the web trying to find a solution but i cant say i found something yet so here it is.
I have a Nokia N900 right now and as much as i like it, its getting old, so im slowly looking for a new phone.
I feel like i might have been spoiled by the N900 multitasking and i want to know if my requirement for my new are possible to have.
So here it is: Is it possible to multitask with multiple instances of some applications? Really its only for email and sms, so i can for example copy text from one email, paste it in another one that is also open at the same time and can switch back and forth between them. In other words, can i have multiple sms/email conversations opened at the same time (one conversation with bob, one with jack, one with dave...) i often have more than 10-15 of them open at the same time on my n900 and if there would be only one reason for me to keep my phone it would be that.
I looked for multitasking apps with grid view hoping it would do that but from what i see you can only have one of those apps running at once anyway and it might seem crazy but for the number of time I switch between conversations on my n900, like i would using WLM for example, this could be a major dealbreaker for me if its not possible.
I'm sorry if it looks like a stupid question or something but ive completely missed the bus regarding android/ios/bb developpement as i used wm6.5 then switched directly to maemo5 2 years ago.
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Yo. Most Android apps can support multitask on its own UNLESS the developer has puposely disable it.
iOS and Android don't run in Windows style, ie, you can open 2 Mozilla Firefox windows at the same time. Copy and paste work the same as the pc.
So I guess you would have problems in the multiple email opening thing, most phones cannot.
So my suggestion is to keep your N900 as a email phone and change to android or iPhone as your main phone.
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Yo. Most Android apps can support multitask on its own UNLESS the developer has puposely disable it.
iOS and Android don't run in Windows style, ie, you can open 2 Mozilla Firefox windows at the same time. Copy and paste work the same as the pc.
So I guess you would have problems in the multiple email opening thing, most phones cannot.
So my suggestion is to keep your N900 as a email phone and change to android or iPhone as your main phone.
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Having two phones would suck, and I'm sure he would get over the whole multi tasking issue after a week of using the SII
But I have to say, nothing is as impressive as bouncing around from different windows, and different text messages, and different apps as much as you want.
You just can't substitute for it
http ://campusainteractive.files.wordpress. com/2010/02/nokia-n900-multi-tasking.jpg
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Having two phones would suck, and I'm sure he would get over the whole multi tasking issue after a week of using the SII
But I have to say, nothing is as impressive as bouncing around from different windows, and different text messages, and different apps as much as you want.
You just can't substitute for it
http ://campusainteractive.files.wordpress. com/2010/02/nokia-n900-multi-tasking.jpg
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Android has true multitasking except for the part of multi running a app.
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lzhikai1994 said:
Android has true multitasking except for the part of multi running a app.
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Ok OK so Android does have "True" multi-tasking
I would like to see it have Multiple Visible applications running at once and accessible between each other. Maybe that's what we should say when we want to see "Real" multitasking, and not just "true" multitasking.
Once again, still satisfied, but we have a craving that we want to fill as well sometimes.
I would like to see android implement this. Webos(palm/hp) had "card style" applications windows and it was epic. That's said, I'm back to android. Just sayin
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Ok OK so Android does have "True" multi-tasking
I would like to see it have Multiple Visible applications running at once and accessible between each other. Maybe that's what we should say when we want to see "Real" multitasking, and not just "true" multitasking.
Once again, still satisfied, but we have a craving that we want to fill as well sometimes.
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Hmm, depends what kind of multitasking you like, the one that actually let's you fully quits apps or one that is fully automated, meaning that you just use it without doing anything and still feel the multitasking, ie you press the home button and it still runs, however you may not notice it, until u use the same app again. However, this means you have to restart every night, to really close the apps, otherwise android will manage for you.
So it means that apps run indefinitely, and when you reopen the app, it will revert to what you did before, you can complete task like scanning eg those with a progress bar and you will see it filling the bar until completion even in the homescreen or other apps, and as I said, unless the developer wants to close the app when you are not using it.
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lzhikai1994 said:
Hmm, depends what kind of multitasking you like, the one that actually let's you fully quits apps or one that is fully automated, meaning that you just use it without doing anything and still feel the multitasking, ie you press the home button and it still runs, however you may not notice it, until u use the same app again. However, this means you have to restart every night, to really close the apps, otherwise android will manage for you.
So it means that apps run indefinitely, and when you reopen the app, it will revert to what you did before, you can complete task like scanning eg those with a progress bar and you will see it filling the bar until completion even in the homescreen or other apps, and as I said, unless the developer wants to close the app when you are not using it.
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That's Androids Multitasking in a Nutshell, completely understand how it works and it does work well I might add. But it's just the extra step of being able to visually locate the running apps and access them. If you look at your Task Killer for example, you see the running tasks correct? But in order to use them, you have to navigate to the app and click it, no matter where it is on your system.
What I would love to see would be more of a Click and Open option to viewing your running tasks. Sort of like a back screen when you Zoom Out of your desktop on android. The same way you can see all of your desktops, you would be able to see all of your running apps and select which one to open, or to close.
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That's Androids Multitasking in a Nutshell, completely understand how it works and it does work well I might add. But it's just the extra step of being able to visually locate the running apps and access them. If you look at your Task Killer for example, you see the running tasks correct? But in order to use them, you have to navigate to the app and click it, no matter where it is on your system.
What I would love to see would be more of a Click and Open option to viewing your running tasks. Sort of like a back screen when you Zoom Out of your desktop on android. The same way you can see all of your desktops, you would be able to see all of your running apps and select which one to open, or to close.
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You mean something like this? : http ://developer.android.com/sdk/images/4.0/tasks-lg.png
I guess there is still only one instance of every app though.
codedog said:
You mean something like this? : http ://developer.android.com/sdk/images/4.0/tasks-lg.png
I guess there is still only one instance of every app though.
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That looks very interesting, is that for ICS? Even if it were for only one instance of each app, it would be more than we have now.
I just hate going from one app, to sending a text, to opening that app again. But I am not dying without it, that's for sure
Goliath27 said:
That's Androids Multitasking in a Nutshell, completely understand how it works and it does work well I might add. But it's just the extra step of being able to visually locate the running apps and access them. If you look at your Task Killer for example, you see the running tasks correct? But in order to use them, you have to navigate to the app and click it, no matter where it is on your system.
What I would love to see would be more of a Click and Open option to viewing your running tasks. Sort of like a back screen when you Zoom Out of your desktop on android. The same way you can see all of your desktops, you would be able to see all of your running apps and select which one to open, or to close.
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Hold the home button to see your last run apps? Other solutions are for example HTC Sense, which put apps you just run into the notifications
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lzhikai1994 said:
Hold the home button to see your last run apps? Other solutions are for example HTC Sense, which put apps you just run into the notifications
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Yup I just discovered that and it works like a charm. Not a replacement but for now that will satisfy my needs.
Look, I'm not arguing with anyone here, just explaining the idea behind what us N900 users were used to and how useful it would be if implemented in android, this is all.
Goliath27 said:
Yup I just discovered that and it works like a charm. Not a replacement but for now that will satisfy my needs.
Look, I'm not arguing with anyone here, just explaining the idea behind what us N900 users were used to and how useful it would be if implemented in android, this is all.
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I suppose this is your first android phone? We're having a discussion here no worries. Yeah but if android were to use the window thing, there would be 10-20 Windows everytime. That's where the homescreen comes, just drag all your frequently used apps there and done, the so called window is done
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Andriod multitasks. You can have a ton of apps open at the same time and switch between them. However you can not have more then one instance of the same app running. So while you cant open say gmail and open multiple mails in seperate frames you can still switch between say a web page and mail.
There might be so great mail apps out there that handle mail seperatly, im just not sure which would do it. Bottom line,x the android OS is more then capable of doing what you want. Someone just needs to make or find the app for your needs.
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I suppose this is your first android phone? We're having a discussion here no worries. Yeah but if android were to use the window thing, there would be 10-20 Windows everytime. That's where the homescreen comes, just drag all your frequently used apps there and done, the so called window is done
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This would be my first android phone yes, and I think I came into the android world on a great phone as well. Home screen works but like I said, it's just the ability of having multiple things going on at once, as I will repeat in my reply to this post below vvvvvv
shortlived said:
Andriod multitasks. You can have a ton of apps open at the same time and switch between them. However you can not have more then one instance of the same app running. So while you cant open say gmail and open multiple mails in seperate frames you can still switch between say a web page and mail.
There might be so great mail apps out there that handle mail seperatly, im just not sure which would do it. Bottom line,x the android OS is more then capable of doing what you want. Someone just needs to make or find the app for your needs.
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That's just it, that would be the thing I KNOW android doesn't have yet wish it did. We all know we can't have more than one instance of the same app running at once, that much is clear. But having it would be the part I crave, and I'm sure others as well.
Imagine being able to reference to a previous text with someone else whenever you want to while working on another text with someone different.
Like I said, I UNDERSTAND YOU CAN'T DO IT, I just wish you could!
and I wish people would stop explaining it to me lol, I KNOW, and I'm not asking for anyone to tell me how it works. I'm just saying, it would be nice, this is all!
also, being able to bounce from Xterm to open notepads or texts to anything, now that is how you process info on a phone. We'll never be satisfied, but for now I am.
Thanks for the replies fellas.
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This would be my first android phone yes, and I think I came into the android world on a great phone as well. Home screen works but like I said, it's just the ability of having multiple things going on at once, as I will repeat in my reply to this post below vvvvvv
That's just it, that would be the thing I KNOW android doesn't have yet wish it did. We all know we can't have more than one instance of the same app running at once, that much is clear. But having it would be the part I crave, and I'm sure others as well.
Imagine being able to reference to a previous text with someone else whenever you want to while working on another text with someone different.
Like I said, I UNDERSTAND YOU CAN'T DO IT, I just wish you could!
and I wish people would stop explaining it to me lol, I KNOW, and I'm not asking for anyone to tell me how it works. I'm just saying, it would be nice, this is all!
also, being able to bounce from Xterm to open notepads or texts to anything, now that is how you process info on a phone. We'll never be satisfied, but for now I am.
Thanks for the replies fellas.
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Chill man, ease on the caps
So I want to speed up the process since I do get pretty busy in school. Let's create a list of safe to remove apps/files so I can have builds uploaded quicker and lighter! If I test everyone by myself, it'll take a while to do. So you guys tell me, what can be safely removed? Let's try to remove all the AT&T junk!
Remember, 99% of the stuff removed can be downloaded through the Market. You could also create a separate zip to allow people to install the apps that were removed. Just a thought...
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droidiac13 said:
Remember, 99% of the stuff removed can be downloaded through the Market. You could also create a separate zip to allow people to install the apps that were removed. Just a thought...
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I'm saying like bloatware. HTC apps, AT&T apps, etc. Some HTC apps can be removed safely while others can't.
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I'm saying like bloatware. HTC apps, AT&T apps, etc. Some HTC apps can be removed safely while others can't.
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Anything with AT&T on it can and should be removed. Just keep Beats audio in there, all I can tell you
Also, do we have an ETA on AT&T HOX+ CM10? Are there other AOSP-based ROMs in development for the One X+, particularly the AT&T version?
It would probably be easier to grab one of the international hox+ Roms that's been debloated and take a look to see what's missing to determine what can come out or at least use it as a base to know what can be removed....not a base to rom build though just to be clear
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Ratzu said:
Anything with AT&T on it can and should be removed. Just keep Beats audio in there, all I can tell you
Also, do we have an ETA on AT&T HOX+ CM10? Are there other AOSP-based ROMs in development for the One X+, particularly the AT&T version?
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There's NEVER an ETA but here's one for you, expect CM10 before 2013 ;p
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I dont know but I'm happy I'm seeing threads like this
Can we look at de-bloated At&t HOX ROMs to get an idea of what's safe to remove? Or at the very least, like someone else mentioned, we should compile a zip to have a safety net of sorts.
Also, I'm no expert but I'm more than willing to help test things and speed up our dev process. I should be getting my HOX+ middle of next week.
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I'm saying like bloatware. HTC apps, AT&T apps, etc. Some HTC apps can be removed safely while others can't.
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I've personally removed: stocks, fm radio, flickr, htc mail, htc mail widget, jetcet print, teeter, htc messenger, watch, play music, play books, polaris office, picasa and locations (ATT or HTC's pay GPS, sucks compared to google to me) from this phone. you can add those to your list of safely removable apps.
Another option for app removal..After all ATT stuff is removed.. some of the ATT HOX XL Rom devs (most rom devs actually) use an aroma script or installer before install which asks the user which apps they want to keep or remove. I never use stocks, fm radio, flickr, htc mail, htc messenger, etc, etc. Those are the first things i would personaly uninstall with titanium backup if there wasnt an aroma script. But there are plenty of people who use those apps everyday and couldnt live without them. With the aroma way you can make everyone happy. Which is hard to do in this business.. Everybody wants something different. Scotts Clean Rom for ATT hox has nice aroma features, might want to use parts of it as a template. Also i'm sure you've made some Rom dev friends over the years.. Hopefully some Sense ones Now would be a great time to hit em up for tips and tricks! They could tell you exactly which HTC apps can , should, and shouldnt be removed. Good luck with the Rom building... You seem very excited about it, thats good for us.
And here is a goody everyone on ATT will like. This is a must have app for me.ATT visual voicemail. Market says its not compatible and wont let you download it.. but it works great. transfer to sd card or download with phone, install from phone using a file explorer. make sure unknown sources is checked in security settings. I'll stick my sim card back in my HOX on monday and download the latest version of ATT VVM, this one says it needs updating, but wont let you. Still works great, no problems at all.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10203258/com.att.mobile.android.vvm-1.apk
I just got my ATT HOX+ and I'm willing to help in whatever way I can. I personally removed all ATT stuff manually (in /system/app) and used Titanium Backup to get rid of BN Nook app and a few others. I'm admittedly not used to this bloatware as I've had a GNex for quite a while now. However, I wanted LTE speeds and had an upgrade available so here I am.
Currently, my phone is dev unlocked running twrp recovery (in the original dev section here on this forum) and I'm rooted (obviously, lol).
On another note, do you guys think we'll get our own forum? It seems like the ATT HOX+ is different enough to warrant it, at least to me.
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On another note, do you guys think we'll get our own forum? It seems like the ATT HOX+ is different enough to warrant it, at least to me.
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I've sent messages to moderators and they've said they are aware of the issues. I'm sure it'll happen... Well i hope it'll happen. It really needs to happen. They are different devices. I hope it doesnt take a bunch of bricks to make them do it.
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I've sent messages to moderators and they've said they are aware of the issues. I'm sure it'll happen... Well i hope it'll happen. It really needs to happen. They are different devices. I hope it doesnt take a bunch of bricks to make them do it.
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I also hope it doesnt mean devs will ignore the at&t version. If they could just put if the rom/tool is at&t compatible would work too.
nugzo said:
I've personally removed: stocks, fm radio, flickr, htc mail, htc mail widget, jetcet print, teeter, htc messenger, watch, play music, play books, polaris office, picasa and locations (ATT or HTC's pay GPS, sucks compared to google to me) from this phone. you can add those to your list of safely removable apps.
Another option for app removal..After all ATT stuff is removed.. some of the ATT HOX XL Rom devs (most rom devs actually) use an aroma script before install which asks the user which apps they want to keep or remove. I never use stocks, fm radio, flickr, htc mail, htc messenger, etc, etc. Those are the first things i would personaly uninstall with titanium backup if there wasnt an aroma script. But there are plenty of people who use those apps everyday and couldnt live without them. With the aroma way you can make everyone happy. Which is hard to do in this business.. Everybody wants something different. Scotts Clean Rom for ATT hox has nice aroma features, might want to use parts of it as a template. Also i'm sure you've made some Rom dev friends over the years.. Hopefully some Sense ones Now would be a great time to hit em up for tips and tricks! They could tell you exactly which HTC apps can , should, and shouldnt be removed. Good luck with the Rom building... You seem very excited about it, thats good for us.
And here is a goody everyone on ATT will like. This is a must have app for me.ATT visual voicemail. Market says its not compatible and wont let you download it.. but it works great. transfer to sd card or download with phone, install from phone using a file explorer. make sure unknown sources is checked in security settings. I'll stick my sim card back in my HOX on monday and download the latest version of ATT VVM, this one says it needs updating, but wont let you. Still works great, no problems at all.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10203258/com.att.mobile.android.vvm-1.apk
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I actually like the HTC mail but not so much the htc messenger. Maybe he can make an "ultra lite" Rom version in due time which is basically as naked as the stock Rom can get and allow people to install whatever they like and ALSO have a zip download of all the HTC stuff taken out for people like me that want say something like fm radio, HTC mail, etc type stuff to install if the user wanted to . I've seen many roms built this way and users basically love em!
Since you don't use the htc text messenger, what sms/mms app to u use? I configured and use go sms now and love it! Does everything the htc messenger can't and fully customizable! Love the quick sms pop up too from standby, was missing simple features like this from my iPhone. Not anymore
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I actually like the HTC mail but not so much the htc messenger. Maybe he can make an "ultra lite" Rom version in due time which is basically as naked as the stock Rom can get and allow people to install whatever they like and ALSO have a zip download of all the HTC stuff taken out for people like me that want say something like fm radio, HTC mail, etc type stuff to install if the user wanted to . I've seen many roms built this way and users basically love em!
Since you don't use the htc text messenger, what sms/mms app to u use? I configured and use go sms now and love it! Does everything the htc messenger can't and fully customizable! Love the quick sms pop up too from standby, was missing simple features like this from my iPhone. Not anymore
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I use handcent messenger. i like it a lot better than stock messenger. The aroma installer would do away with the zip download. You choose what apps you want and dont want at the beginning of the install. No need for more than 1 version. No need for an ultra lite version when you can choose your own apps. Its almost like your own little rom kitchen. to take stuff out or add stuff. Add battery percent or a different style battery. Add blue icons or red. Use Android boot animation or ATT. Remove sense and add a different launcher. Many Many different things can be done with aroma. I'm not sure how hard or how easy it is to use in development, but it seems to be the way everyone is going. I think its great.
So I decided the first ROM will be senseless (Not AOSP. It'll have Sense stuff removed) and make it as slim as I possibly can. Want it to be a super light ROM so it can be customized as needed. Should I put Apex or Nova launcher?
Example of my first ROM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1771773
hasoon2000 said:
Should I put Apex or Nova launcher?
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I prefer nova myself. Just sayin...
hasoon2000 said:
So I decided the first ROM will be senseless (Not AOSP. It'll have Sense stuff removed) and make it as slim as I possibly can. Want it to be a super light ROM so it can be customized as needed. Should I put Apex or Nova launcher?
Example of my first ROM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1771773
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We see how well the senseless rom went over. 2 pages and last post in august.
Your response when asked in the donation thread what your plans were.
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The plan will be sense first since I can mess with that easier. At the same time, talk with lloir for CM
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That is why i donated what i donated. gg
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Your response when asked in the donation thread what your plans were.
wow i thought you said a sense rom would be first. hmmm. That is why i donated what i donated. gg
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Reason I said a Senseless ROM will be first is because I'm backing up all the files I removed. After I upload the Senseless, I just have to drop in the Sense files and bam, a Sense ROM is made! lol
EDIT: Also, isn't 2 ROMs better than 1? It will be something quick to slap up and if I modify one file from one ROM, I can just do the same mod to the other. It'll be easier to work with both side-by-side. Don't worry man. I got this!
Looking forward to flashing my first rom on this device. Light is fine, and whichever launcher you find lighter on the battery life.
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Reason I said a Senseless ROM will be first is because I'm backing up all the files I removed. After I upload the Senseless, I just have to drop in the Sense files and bam, a Sense ROM is made! lol
EDIT: Also, isn't 2 ROMs better than 1? It will be something quick to slap up and if I modify one file from one ROM, I can just do the same mod to the other. It'll be easier to work with both side-by-side. Don't worry man. I got this!
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No 2 is not better than 1 IMO. Aroma with a sensless option is the way to go. 1 rom to maintain.
Am also aware that this isnt going to be instant, you are learning to build roms. Aroma may be an advanced rom dev option, i dont know. I do know though that no one said they were looking forward to a senseless sense based rom in the donation thread. Almost everyone said they wanted a sense rom. :fingers-crossed: But ultimately it is your decision. Do what you gotta do. :highfive:
Just rooted my phone...and I love being able to use the WiFi tether! A few questions:
1) Which of the bloatware should I remove and will it noticeably improve the performance of my phone?
2) How do I get rid of the WiFi notifications that always pop up and tell me there's WiFi nearby?
3) How do I get Sense 4.0 on this phone and what are the advantages/disadvantages of it?
Please keep in mind that I am an extreme noob and it was pretty incredible that I was actually able to root. In fact, I had to get help from a friend on it!
1) It will remove any background apps you don't need. Read up on which ones can be safe to remove.
2) While in Wi-Fi settings press menu then choose Advancedyou will see the option "Notify Me", deselect/uncheck it.
3) By flashing a Sense 4.0 rom and matching boot.img. There are a few good ones and really just as many bugs as any Sense 3.6 rom nowadays, so no need to worry on that.
If you need help, I'm only a quick PM away. I might not reply right away but I will gladly be of help.
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Regarding your first question; flash a custom rom and not worry about bloatware.
Thanks, Snuzzo...much appreciated. Regarding #2, it was indeed unchecked. It says "Notify me, When launching apps, notify me when Wi-Fi is available"...not sure that's what I'm going for. Per your other recommendation, I'd assume flashing a custom ROM would help that.
Is there a good Sense 4.0 rom you'd recommend? Seems like I've seen that some don't jive with bluetooth...I use bluetooth a lot in my car. Also, what would you say are the benefits of 4.0 over 3.6?
I have tried them all, and so far I like Nils the best http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1757357
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Is there a good Sense 4.0 rom you'd recommend? Seems like I've seen that some don't jive with bluetooth...I use bluetooth a lot in my car. Also, what would you say are the benefits of 4.0 over 3.6?
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Not being a real hardcore end user, I can't tell the difference. Worst one to ask in that respect. Checkout Hawknest's. Him and myself have been working on Eclipticrez for months now.
Quick clarification...the WiFi notification I'm getting is the one that shows up in the notifications bar at the top of the screen. Unchecking "Notify me" only keeps it from taking over my whole screen. I have unlimited data, so I'm uninterested in WiFi.
Flash NilsP rom and you wont have that problem anymore and everything works!
Ha--touche! I'll have to check that out.
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Quick clarification...the WiFi notification I'm getting is the one that shows up in the notifications bar at the top of the screen. Unchecking "Notify me" only keeps it from taking over my whole screen. I have unlimited data, so I'm uninterested in WiFi.
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Menu-->Settings-->Wi-Fi
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Menu-->Advanced
Uncheck - "Notify Me"
Check - "Never auto turn on Wi-Fi"
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Props to Snuzzo. Someone who is clearly above the simple in and outs of this phone, who is capable of doing things WAY over most of our heads, taking time to respond to some beginner questions. +1 to him, and a lesson for the rest of you who would just scream "Use the search!!!"
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Menu-->Settings-->Wi-Fi
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Menu-->Advanced
Uncheck - "Notify Me"
Check - "Never auto turn on Wi-Fi"
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Props to Snuzzo. Someone who is clearly above the simple in and outs of this phone, who is capable of doing things WAY over most of our heads, taking time to respond to some beginner questions. +1 to him, and a lesson for the rest of you who would just scream "Use the search!!!"
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+1 to the preceding ---- but feel free to use the "search" feature anyway. It's just nicer.
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+1 to the preceding ---- but feel free to use the "search" feature anyway. It's just nicer.
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Yeah, I have searched before and came up with the same answer. The notification still comes up in my status bar at the top of the screen. That's why I was wondering if there was another way to do it... I guess that was my question. I figured I might be able to remove a system file or something now that I have rooted.
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Yeah, I have searched before and came up with the same answer. The notification still comes up in my status bar at the top of the screen. That's why I was wondering if there was another way to do it... I guess that was my question. I figured I might be able to remove a system file or something now that I have rooted.
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Also, if you choose to try a ROM that doesn't remove it, sometimes someone has a file you can flash that will remove it, such as for the ViperRez ROM. You might even ask if that file works on stock rooted if you're not ready to flash a ROM yet. Here's a link to the one made for ViperRez, you can ask in/search the thread to see if it would work on another ROM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1786277&highlight=viperrez
But really, you might as well flash a custom ROM. I'm running ViperRez and I like it a lot but I'm not able to connect my phone as a portable player to my car and I'm not able to get my contacts into my car either. I was able to do both on stock and on a GB ROM I was running. Am going to reflash it and see if it works, or try to get it set up on stock first then reflash. Other than that I really like the ROM.
I was thinking of trying out iRezone, that seems like it might be good too.
If after you flash a custom ROM you still have that wifi icon showing just check the ROM thread and see if someone posted a fix.