I initially picked up the EVO June 4th and had it and loved it for a month. Then Magenta announced they were getting the Galaxy as the Vibrant so I returned the EVO to see if the Vibrant was all I hoped it would be.
I love them both and my two week window for the Vibrant is almost up so I wanted to get some opinions on the development potential for the Vibrant vs the EVO.
I know its early and the source code just got released this week, but it seems like development for the EVO moved at a much quicker pace. I wanted some people to chime in about what they think, especially if you've had and used both phones.
Many devs are familiar with the HTC way of doing things, and samsung is different so there is a learning curve that had to be tackled first. I think the development of the SGS is pretty good and will continue to grow..
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Yeah its only a master matter of time. Why would people not want to mess with the best hardware? Especially the developers.
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I've had the evo too, keep the vibrant. Way better screen, faster CPU, lighter and thinner! Development will come, I know what you mean about the evo dev being fast, but its just because developers were used to HTC ways. Samsung is different, we are finally seeing update.zip packages, I think everything will pick up shortly.
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Yeah its only a master matter of time. Why would people not want to mess with the best hardware? Especially the developers.
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yea most of the developers are just now buying Vibrant's, as more people use them, the more it will be mod'd and developed
not to mention that 2 more galaxy s phones have yet to be released (Sprint and VZW). There will be a LOT of GalaxyS support in the dev community since just about everyone will be able to get one.
In my opinion this was a really good question. I too came from the EVO and Sprint, my wife and I got tired of the horrible customer service that Sprint was giving us so we packed up shop and moved to T-Mo hearing nothing but great things about their customer service. So far I love the hardware of the Vibrant and I too was a bit worried that the development didn't happen as fast as the EVO, so great question and here's to hoping we get strong development on this great platform.
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In my opinion this was a really good question. I too came from the EVO and Sprint, my wife and I got tired of the horrible customer service that Sprint was giving us so we packed up shop and moved to T-Mo hearing nothing but great things about their customer service. So far I love the hardware of the Vibrant and I too was a bit worried that the development didn't happen as fast as the EVO, so great question and here's to hoping we get strong development on this great platform.
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You have to change that avatar! just kidding.
My vote is for the vibrant as well!
I too had the evo. The dev for it was awesome but didn't it seem that at least half of it was correct it's shortcomings? Fps fix, camera tweaks, different radios and kernels. The processor is sub par a well as the gpu. The phone out of the box needed to be modded. The vibrant is good out if the box. Root it and you're good. That's how I feel about it.
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The EVO WILL NOT be as strong as the SGS line.
A lot of the hardware between all the phones is very very similar and allows different communities to share their findings. We are not limited to a carrier, therefore this is one of the first times
Verizon
T-Mobile
ATT
Sprint
US Cellular
and more...
Can all work together to find stuff.
Example, the European version of the Galaxy has a speed fix that doubles their quadrant scores. This method is already porting over to the captivate and vibrant and is about %75 done!
Lastly, I'm from the Captivate forums and this shows you how much we can all work together!
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Lastly, I'm from the Captivate forums and this shows you how much we can all work together!
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Plus Qualcomms cpu's are crap compared to Samsung. I remember my HTC 8525 (hermes) from back in the day had a better cpu than did my HTC Kaiser which had a Qualcomm processor that was seriously weak in comparison. Ask any developer they will tell you.
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That and most of the "dev" support is seriously lacking, it's either good (probably something that optimizes a stock ROM), good but still needs more time, not all there (like the FPS fix), or is completely garbage.
With the myTouch 3G/G1, I tried to find something that was fast and worked good, never found that combo unfortunately. I don't see the need for that with the Vibrant. I think we would be best off waiting for Samsung to respond to GPS concerns & problems. Maybe we'll get an update this month that will speed us up like some of the later beta leaks along with an update to GPS functionality to tide us over until FroYo.
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In my opinion this was a really good question. I too came from the EVO and Sprint, my wife and I got tired of the horrible customer service that Sprint was giving us so we packed up shop and moved to T-Mo hearing nothing but great things about their customer service. So far I love the hardware of the Vibrant and I too was a bit worried that the development didn't happen as fast as the EVO, so great question and here's to hoping we get strong development on this great platform.
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Been with Tmobile for 7 years, decided to check the evo out when it came out, since sprint offered 100% money back guarantee within 30 days, never again... for one, service in my area for sprint ended up sucking, specially for 3g. My evo was neat though, it was exactly what I wanted Hd2 to be, so I was happy. Only complaint was no amoled screen on it.
Anyways, I kept it for 20 days and decided to return it as I wasn't gonna pay $10 extra a month for data when I barely got 300kbps upload at my house and couldn't even stream Pandora at the gym due to 100kbps download speed there... went to local sprint store where I bought my evo. They told me to drive 30 miles to a service center because they required all of the new evo phones to be checked out by a tech first... drove there, hit rush hour, they tell me that I didn't have to drive there afterall and that the Rep who told me to didn't know what She was talking about. Returned my phone, got my money back, Guy said That hed call sprint and cancel my service, that I was good to go...awesome, not so much...
Get a bill in the mail a month later for first month of service, then one for second. Called financial department, stayed on the phone for an hour, spoke to 3 people. They are telling me that my cancellation didn't happen until July 7th and that I owe them $200! I had a reciept in front of me stating tat my phone was returned June 28th. I kept on telling them that why in the world would I go through all the hustle to return my device, not have any usage on my account since 28th and not cancel the service, knowing that I only had 30 days to do so... they ended up telling me to go back to sprint store and talk to the same rep who cancelled my service and to have him call sprint. Fat chance I was driving there again. Went to my local sprint store, spoke to this nice dude who looked at my reciept and called sprint to fix the issue. Said that he saw the name of that Rep 3 times prior, that he screwed up before.
All is good now, but after all these issues I'm sticking to Tmobile, way better customer service and coverage in my area. I had an issue with my first vibrant. Went back to the store, got a swap in minutes. People there were courteous, And super helpful. Not so much with sprint...
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Ya t-mobile is the best! There no contract plans are a steal. The service is second only to verizon. They have the fastest internet. Internet isn't 30 bucks extra like BS verizon.
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I'm from the international forum (although I don't quite have my Galaxy S yet, will this coming week!) but have to check over here and at the Captivate forum since we're rather fragmented forum-wise, but I'm sure that it'll be easy to port things between the phones.
I'm hoping the Galaxy S series sees developer attention as well - it has a disadvantage not being from HTC stock, but with such wide availability and being such a high-end device I'm hoping we'll see plenty. Work on CyanogenMod is very encouraging and suggests it's being taken seriously.
I don't know if we can count on Samsung releasing Gingerbread firmware; it could really go either way (the Galaxy S series will probably still be their flagship when it comes out, but UI changes may be a disincentive). But with developers interested in the platform we'll hopefully not need Samsung's help to keep the phone up to date in the future.
Going to +1 everything everyone else said and I also had evo, nexus one and all the rest, I like the samsung best and hope they learned from the behold mistake. But in my are t mobile sucks and sprint data was alot faster. But gsm and no contracts beat that.
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And plus there's absolutely no way that the Behold II incident could even compare because the Galaxies have been released in Korea, Europe, and all major carriers in the US so Samsung will definitely have plenty of support as well as everyone on the Galaxies can pitch in to dev this phone.
They plan to release the Galaxy S in over 110 countries and 125 carriers world wide...In South Korea alone they sold 500,000 phones in 30 days...so DEV support is gonna happen no matter how you look at it...
I'm personally sticking with sprint but going for the Epic 4G....really need the keyboard and the specs beat EVO 2x in most specs....
The EVO was impressive 2 years ago when we learned it was the Super Sonic...nowadays its pretty much just another phone....I mean it even uses a 4 year old processor....
The Galaxy S or Vibrant or whichever name you prefer to call it is more on par with the standards of 2010...
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Just looking for some first hand experience, or tips from a T-Mobile employee. I was just told by TMo that if this Vibrant fails me (being my 3rd one), I'll be able to get a completely different phone.
I have every intention of calling them in the next couple of days to kindly let them know that the GPS isn't working as intended, of course. I just did a road trip to the Dallas/Ft. Worth area and my GPS failed me over and over (yes, I've done all of the fixes known to man) while my Garmin Nuvi worked flawlessly, as usual.
So, anyone know what my options will be? Since I paid $199.99 to extend my contract for this POS, I feel that I should be offered any of their smartphones at that price, but really have no idea as to how this works.
Thanks in advance!
You can get alot
As long as you are clear in your point and sound like you know what you are talking about you should be fine.
I went through this right when the sensation came out.
I got one for free and got to keep my vibe by signing a 2 year with customer loyalty. They sent me tbe sensation and it had touchscreen isues so back it went and I went through 2 alltoghether.
It wasnt a bad phone but I missed my im on it again now.
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If you really like not having a heavy phone (sensation was like a weight haha) or the phone with a million issues the g2x.
I'd stick it out just 2 more months tops and we will have the htc ruby/amaze 4g and the tmobile galaxy s2 "hercules" both are rumored to be on tmos 42 mps network which os way more than double our current max of 14.4
Thanks for the response! That's a good point... I'll wait until some better phones are released here soon and then call to get my replacement. No point in doing it now since the selection isn't all that great.
Yea its funny how there are so many levels of "top teir" devices that out can be hard to keep track of. I can say I'll be way happier with a lighter phone with a more visible screen outdoors anf that they won't know my warranties gone because I used the same oems software of who made the phone. I think brand presence aside that the 42mps is worth the wait. i live in the mpls area and tmobile is very sttong here for signal so im excited for that chip.
In the meantime time try using the custom rom toxic crazy 8 with the clean and shiny theme. I put it on a guy I work withs vibrant and now he is wayyy happier with his phone that ever before. He even stopped talking about needing a new phone all the time hah
Hello. I have signed a two year contract with AT&T (4gb data yaaay...) and got the HTC Titan since im a WP7 lover, but after a week im not sure i can justify a long term agreement on the platform so im gonna use my 30 day windows to swap it. Since i know ill get bored of iOS its out, so its between the GS2 or the Skyrocket since the Vivid is somewhat laggier and locked bootloader. Im leaning towards this due to the Exynos vs Snapdragon debacle....
Question, Is it worth a contract nowadays or is there a better choice? I wished the Galaxy Nexus arrived before my 30 days was up but its not happening. Please share thoughtz
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Hello. I have signed a two year contract with AT&T (4gb data yaaay...) and got the HTC Titan since im a WP7 lover, but after a week im not sure i can justify a long term agreement on the platform so im gonna use my 30 day windows to swap it. Since i know ill get bored of iOS its out, so its between the GS2 or the Skyrocket since the Vivid is somewhat laggier and locked bootloader. Im leaning towards this due to the Exynos vs Snapdragon debacle....
Question, Is it worth a contract nowadays or is there a better choice? I wished the Galaxy Nexus arrived before my 30 days was up but its not happening. Please share thoughtz
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If you're in a LTE area and don't mind having a higher battery drain due to 4g then go with the Skyrocket. Of the two I think that the GS2 is the better choice but then again I couldn't take advantage of the 4g where I am so the skyrocket would be pointless.
Wow I'm sick of seeing these threads.
Only you can decide what is going to be best for you. If you're in LTE and use the phone for surfing, ect, get the ****rocket. If you play games or watch movies, sgs2 is the way to go.
Do a search and you'll see all the pro/con thread already out there.
Best bet is to go into a store and play with both phones. If you still cant decide after that, then specwise the GS2 is a better phone than the Skyrocket... so let that be the thing to tip the scales.
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Best bet is to go into a store and play with both phones. If you still cant decide after that, then specwise the GS2 is a better phone than the Skyrocket... so let that be the thing to tip the scales.
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The difficult part of that will be finding a s2 at an att store, att has discontinued the model in favor of the skyrocket.
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The difficult part of that will be finding a s2 at an att store, att has discontinued the model in favor of the skyrocket.
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Stop spreading bull**** - the I777 is still available and is NOT discontinued.
However if you live in an LTE market, AT&T is pushing the ****rocket pretty aggressively.
Compatriota!!! Need to speak english because this is an English forum.
Choose the S2 but if you are from San Juan go with the Skyrocket, if not then the S2. Im from the west and 8mb download seems cool! PM me if you have a question
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Stop spreading bull**** - the I777 is still available and is NOT discontinued.
However if you live in an LTE market, AT&T is pushing the ****rocket pretty aggressively.
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It is not entirely false. In my area (Northern California), the AT&T corporate stores and authorized dealers no longer carry the original S2, only the Skyrocket. I got mine from a local RadioShack. I guess it is because they are nationwide retailer and have their own stock. The only way to get the S2 from AT&T directly in my area is to buy from their online store.
99 bucks at Costco for an S2 and tax only on 199.99. 117 out the door!
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Stop spreading bull**** - the I777 is still available and is NOT discontinued.
However if you live in an LTE market, AT&T is pushing the ****rocket pretty aggressively.
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I got my GS2 on monday (I ordered online) I right away noticed a dead pixel. I went into my local ATT store and they didnt have any GS2s in stock. They checked 3 or 4 other stores in the area and none of them had them in stock. The manager told me that they were no longer keeping them in stock because they are now pushing the skyrocket. She told me she thinks they were even asked to send the GS2s back.. So while the phone may not be at end of life ATT has decided to "forget" about the GS2 and push the skyrocket since they are pushing their new LTE network
Just my thoughts/experience on the subject
Sorry for posting another thread on this, I was reading the other topic posted here....
but since the thread was bumped again, let me ask. Does the SGS2 have more dev support than the SR? My main concern is being left behind too soon, and since the GS2 is closest to the OG, i think id get custom and official ICS before SR imo. plus i cant get over the crappy Snapdragon cpu it uses as well since im anal about those things and thats why i basically swore off htc androids because of it.
here is the kicker... i DO live in a LTE area haha, desicions, decisions...
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Sorry for posting another thread on this, I was reading the other topic posted here....
but since the thread was bumped again, let me ask. Does the SGS2 have more dev support than the SR? My main concern is being left behind too soon, and since the GS2 is closest to the OG, i think id get custom and official ICS before SR imo. plus i cant get over the crappy Snapdragon cpu it uses as well since im anal about those things and thats why i basically swore off htc androids because of it.
here is the kicker... i DO live in a LTE area haha, desicions, decisions...
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I live in an LTE area (They just launched in NYC) and I chose the GS2 over the skyrocket for a few reasons
1. I had the bigger sprint GS2 and I actually prefer the 4.3 form factor
2. The CPU/GPU is better in the GS2
3. LTE is new and this is their first generation device I'd rather wait until it matures more (in handsets and network) than to jump on it now.
4. There is a lot more dev support for the GS2 and since it's so close to the International version it means we pretty much get whatever they get (just a tad bit after)
Now I did say I preferred the 4.3 form factor and I do, but after using the 4.52 sprint GS2 I kind of got use to it and the 4.3 felt tiny (even though it's really not THAT much smaller) so it took a little adjusting.
I was in the ATT store the other day when I was trying to exchange my GS2 with the dead pixel. I played with a SR and I can say you can definitely see a difference in snappiness when they are side by side. The Gs2 just seems more smooth and fluid. If I didn't have them side by side I prob wouldnt have noticed a difference but you most certainly notice a difference when they are side by side.
In the end for me the reasons to go with the GS2 outnumbered the reasons to go with the SR which the only reason I could think of is that it's LTE
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Sorry for posting another thread on this, I was reading the other topic posted here....
but since the thread was bumped again, let me ask. Does the SGS2 have more dev support than the SR? My main concern is being left behind too soon, and since the GS2 is closest to the OG, i think id get custom and official ICS before SR imo. plus i cant get over the crappy Snapdragon cpu it uses as well since im anal about those things and thats why i basically swore off htc androids because of it.
here is the kicker... i DO live in a LTE area haha, desicions, decisions...
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The ****rocket forums have 1 offical dev and one asking for donations.
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I live in an LTE area (They just launched in NYC) and I chose the GS2 over the skyrocket for a few reasons
1. I had the bigger sprint GS2 and I actually prefer the 4.3 form factor
2. The CPU/GPU is better in the GS2
3. LTE is new and this is their first generation device I'd rather wait until it matures more (in handsets and network) than to jump on it now.
4. There is a lot more dev support for the GS2 and since it's so close to the International version it means we pretty much get whatever they get (just a tad bit after)
Now I did say I preferred the 4.3 form factor and I do, but after using the 4.52 sprint GS2 I kind of got use to it and the 4.3 felt tiny (even though it's really not THAT much smaller) so it took a little adjusting.
I was in the ATT store the other day when I was trying to exchange my GS2 with the dead pixel. I played with a SR and I can say you can definitely see a difference in snappiness when they are side by side. The Gs2 just seems more smooth and fluid. If I didn't have them side by side I prob wouldnt have noticed a difference but you most certainly notice a difference when they are side by side.
In the end for me the reasons to go with the GS2 outnumbered the reasons to go with the SR which the only reason I could think of is that it's LTE
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this is pretty much what i had in mind...
i made up mu mind. GS2 it is. thanx a million guys!!! ill be joining you later today
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Stop spreading bull**** - the I777 is still available and is NOT discontinued.
However if you live in an LTE market, AT&T is pushing the ****rocket pretty aggressively.
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Well, I DID physically go into two local ATT stores this past week, and neither had any s2s nor any accessories for it, in addition to being told by the employee that they were obsolete in their system. Yes, you can get them online through att, but not at the stores around here. Lte has not been launched in my market yet (SF bay area) but there are pockets of cells in testing, so it will be coming at some point.
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It is not entirely false. In my area (Northern California), the AT&T corporate stores and authorized dealers no longer carry the original S2, only the Skyrocket. I got mine from a local RadioShack. I guess it is because they are nationwide retailer and have their own stock. The only way to get the S2 from AT&T directly in my area is to buy from their online store.
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Its entirely false.
Nor Cal has never had the phones in stores and never will.
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Well, I DID physically go into two local ATT stores this past week, and neither had any s2s nor any accessories for it, in addition to being told by the employee that they were obsolete in their system. Yes, you can get them online through att, but not at the stores around here. Lte has not been launched in my market yet (SF bay area) but there are pockets of cells in testing, so it will be coming at some point.
T
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Its always been this way.
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The ****rocket forums have 1 offical dev and one asking for donations.
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thats funny....i count 6 active devs working on it.....
maybe you should learn to count a little better or stop with the f'ng hatred of the other phone....biased opinions are biased.
Haha, hey pg. hows it goin?
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Hey everyone, most of you will know me from the Evo 4G, I am the creator of Azrael X and Stock Turbo ROMS. I loved my Evo 4G and I loved developing ROMS for it. I was due for Upgrade in July of last year, just in time to get the Evo 3D. I was excited because of the Specs of the Evo 3D and traded "up" for my "amazing Evo 3D". To be honest, I wish I had held out for the Samsung GS-II or switched to Verizon now!
Here is the issues I have had with the Evo 3D.
My first one: I take good care of my phones, I think in all the time I had my Evo 4G I dropped it once and it was in a case so no damage. One day, I went to use my Evo 3D's camera to take a picture of something funny to send to my friends. Well, my phone became unresponsive and then my phone's display got corrupted. I tried all the troubleshooting steps, redid the phone ROM, hard reset, EVERYTHING. No dice and I heard that sometimes the camera gets disconnected and you can press real hard and it will work again. Ironically I did that and it worked once, the next day I went to use the camera and it did it again, froze the phone for a few minutes and corrupted the display. So I went to a Sprint service center and they "could not fix it, my replacement would be ordered and I can pick it up in a few days." So I get my replacement and...
I get a replacement with Hboot 1.50: Hboot 1.50 really sucks, that is all there is to it. HTC lets you root your phone...for a price! You void your warranty (not completely but it's more or less at the discretion of the Sprint employee if your covered by warranty or not if you bring it in for service with an issue) and it's not even a full root! You cannot flash kernels or radios without jumping through hoops and your phone is not S-Off. There is no current method to get S-Off with Hboot 1.50 and all attempts thus far have failed. Why could they have not just fixed my camera on my original one? This is livable with but has taken away the desire from me to develop ROMS for this phone. Then there is the....
Other issues with my replacement Evo 3D: The new one likes to restart itself randomly. It actually caused me to nearly late for work one morning because my carefully set alarm went off when it decided to restart itself. Thankfully I woke up by myself and was able to rush, get ready, and barely make it! I no longer rely on it as my alarm unless there is nothing else available. This NEVER happened with my Evo 4G, it reliably served as my alarm. Then there is...
CIQ: Sprint and HTC are spying on you; even a tinfoil hat will not prevent them from logging your phone usage. I mean, I am sure there are ways that all phones and carriers can do this, but where did I sign a form that allows them to monitor my usage? Not to mention this logging still eats up memory, CPU cycles, and battery. Even if they took this out now, not to mention developers found ways to rip out CIQ innards from the phone, this is a lameness that I cannot fathom. Then there is....
Sprint:
They removed the "Sprint Premier" program, which is really stupid. Now you have to wait 2 full years to get an upgraded phone.
The Network seems worse than ever. 4G coverage around the south suburbs of Chicago is bad at best, not there at worst. There are a couple of dead spots I always hit on the way home from work on 294.
Rude employees at Sprint. I ended up talking to a lady who kept interrupting me and laughed at me when I said something about that. I have never said, "F%$ you" to a lady on the phone until then. I actually said that and hung up, I was fuming! (UPDATE: Yes I know any company has good and bad reps and it's always a chance you will get one or the other, but she took the cake for the rudest CS rep I have dealt with from any company maybe ever. It was not just what she said, it was how she handled my questions. I should also mention she is a manager.)
Other things that I do not like about the Evo 3D.
The Speakerphone: Both Evo 3D phones I have had have mediocre speakers. The first one is way quieter and has NO bass compared to my former Evo 4G. Minor but noticeable.
The signal: This may have been "early teething" problems but my Evo 4G seemed to pull in signal much better than the Evo 3D. This could be because of premature radio and PRL updates at the time but I would be interested now to see how they compare. My Evo 4G would have 5 bars while the 3D would have 1-3 bars.
The charger port: The Evo 4G was nice because the charging port was right on the bottom of the phone. This made it easy to charge it while you mess with the phone and/or want to charge and talk at the same time. The Evo 3D has the charger port on the upper-left side. If you attempt to charge and talk, you are putting stress on your cable and the port itself. Stupid placement IMO.
Less tinker friendly: Besides the already mentioned Hboot 1.5 (partial root and partial warranty breaker) you cannot use the volume or power buttons while the cover is off. This is of course REALLY being nitpicky as there is not much need for it. But when you need access to the battery, having to take the back off every time is an extra step.
Of course, the Evo 3D is a better phone than the Evo 4G as far as hardware specs and screen quality. I just wish it was better in almost all ways instead of just specs.
The good of the Evo 3D is quite numerous of course.
The specs
The 3D features are neat
Increased memory
The screen slightly better quality
No more light bleeding like on the Evo 4G
Hboot 1.5 is a stupid means of control and I cannot believe we void our warranty for the sake of a half-ass root! I had aspirations for Azrael X 3D but honestly I feel the Evo 3D has some great ROMS already and Hboot 1.5 is a big deal breaker for me.
I might have to pass on HTC and Sprint too next time around.
More on the next post, but I want to know if anyone else has buyers (and/or Sprint) remorse lately. I am thinking of moving to "Big Red" network.
Luckily I haven't experienced any of the issues you seem to be going through. I would recommend calling or stopping by sprint and have your replacement swapped out. Who knows you might get lucky and get one with 1.4, good luck man hope it works out.
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I would definitely push them to get you a replacement, it sounds like they gave you another defective one. If they give you a hard time about it showing "relocked" shoot me a PM and I may be able to help you out.
Man what's up. I remember your Roms and work for the EVO4G. Deff top notch.
Personally I don't have buyers remorse as mine has been great here no issues hardware wise.
As for the things you mentioned with sprint itself like the premier program...I'm with ya on that 100%. Hate it that they took that away. BUT according to the Sprint Advocates group that has conf calls with execs each month, Sprint has been researching a new loyalty program to replace it with to reward those of us again. Maybe the buy your upgrade back trial program is a slight form of it, though I know they have discussed more.
As for leaving sprint if you head to big red you pretty might end up with only getting Samsung phones as they have announced their stance on bootloaders and I wouldn't be shocked to see their future HTC phones not on the unlock list...
Personally i can't beat the price here and I really want to stick around with Sprint and see these NetworkVision deployments because network wise they will improve things 10 fold in many areas. The mere backhaul improvement being done at the towers is a giant leap in itself.
S4GRU.com has a ton of very very detailed info, a lot inside info too on this. Great site btw, any Sprint customer interested in the network and such I suggest heading over there and reading the enormous amount of detailed info they have, including some spectrum analysis...
Saw you mentioned Chicago specifically so I linked the two wall posts that discuss some info on that area specifically for ya.
http://s4gru.com/index.php?/blog/1/...nd-lte-deployment-details-emerge-for-chicago/
http://s4gru.com/index.php?/blog/1/...-schedule-details-for-sprints-chicago-market/
As far as the customer service, that's a shame man and you really can't defend them for that.
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Hey ric, I thought you disappeared! I used to love your 4g roms. That sucks you've had so many issues. Good to see you're alive though.
We're comin from a pure power source.
Hey, I'm in the Chicago area too and I know there can be dead spots and sprint is the slowest of the carriers it seems. Where I'm at though, service is incredible. The Crestwood area. But I can't venture out too far before I see speeds drop. Signal strength seems to stay strong everywhere I go though. And I don't even bother using 4G. I can get it at home but not much anywhere else. And with wifi at home, what's the point? But I'm still happy with the service.
The phone I love too. I dropped it a couple times while in a case, no damage. Phone doesn't reboot, everything is responsive, etc. Maybe your replacement has something wrong with it.
Now, I did see lots of problems on custom roms or kernels or both for some reason. I trust the developers know what they're doing and I'm not a developer so I don't know why there were so many issues then. I didn't try every rom or kernel, but the popular ones I did always restarted and froze on my phone. It was like clock work. So I've stuck to the stock setup with some mods on top of it and have 0 problems.
As for CIQ goes, sprint removed it in the latest update I believe. But I wouldn't put it past then if there's some other way they're tracking us. Since the removal of ciq, things perform world's better too.
I won't get too into their customer service but I have had some really friendly support and I've had some that clearly don't enjoy their job but weren't rude to me. It happens everywhere.
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Sucks that you are having so many issues, my 3d has been rock solid but sprints data in my home town is horrible. Stuck in a contract til mid 2013. Hoping to see some improvement by then with the upcoming lte. Although i dont see much about florida in their upcoming deployments. Think i read awhile back about Miami, but that was it. Best wishes to you and hope things improve for all of us with sprint issues.
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CIQ is indeed removed, since the January 13th update. Most phone manufacturers and Sprint are working with eachother to remove CIQ if it hasn't been already. Be glad you didn't go with Samsung, I've had so many with issues it's not funny. If you are mad about a camera issue on HTC, wait till you see what Samsung can give you. Late (if ever updates), radio issues, physical KB keypress skips, crashing camera, you name it (depending on the model). The SII is lambasted with problems galore, google it. It sucks that the HTC is locked down more, but IMO, it's not like a Samsung so it's not entirely necessary to root because the phone itself doesn't have major experience killing issues.
FREEDOM OF SPEECH . I demand a reason of the removal of my posts .
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FREEDOM OF SPEECH . I demand a reason of the removal of my posts .
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i second this what the hell is going on nothing that was said was terrible.. explain ur reasoning >:O
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FREEDOM OF SPEECH . I demand a reason of the removal of my posts .
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Freedom of speech does not apply on a forum.
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"Freedom of Speech" doesn't always comply with XDA forum policies.
You mind showing us the policy and how what was said went against the policy?
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PM a mod if you have any gripes.
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You mind showing us the policy and how what was said went against the policy?
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I don't know what was said here but many of the rules here could be used to limit your speech and rightfully so. For example the rule 2.4...
Regardless PM the mod or a mod and ask, and you'll likely get an answer.
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I feel compelled to reply an I never post I have like 3 maybe IDk. Reading your post you sound very frustrated I get that been there but you are/were a custom rom developer?? How many cell carriers have you been with?
I was with Verizon for years they do not give a **** about any of their customers. They are more expensive for everything and they will nickel and dime you anyway they can. Verizon does not have blazing fast data 24/7 that covers every square inch of the USA.
They dropped sprint premiere, so what if you call sales they will upgrade you almost anytime you wanna buy a new phone an lock you down for two more years. Sprint buys back phones they always have some deal or incentive goin on. You buy a Verizon phone you aren't getting an upgrade for two yrs forget it.
Yea its not uncommon to talk to an idiot on the phone I myself as soon as I hear an accent not of the English language ask to speak someone else because I cannot understand them but you own a phone that they prob couldn't buy with their whole weeks paycheck.
I've had all the issues that you have with reboots freezes and whatnot no camera probs this is my 4th one. But hey they have replaced them with no hassle I've been offered other phones the photon for example which I passed on.
Idk what else you ask of them when they replace the defective product you can't justify getting mad at them for replacing a defective device with the lastest and least defective software.
THIS PHONE IS FAR SUPERIOR TO THE EVO4G which I had several of those I shattered the screen multiple times on all of them from dropping it. The speaker was a joke sure it was louder than the 3d until it blew the **** out. The 3D is sturdy and durable no problems from dropping not even a scratch on the screen I use no cases or protectors. Usb charging port is pathetic pos on EVO4g. 3D came out 1 year after 4G pretty dam good phone. There's nothing mind blowing that has come out since the 3D release I just don't get it. Were just now starting to see the next wave of technology that will soon outshine the phone.
Every other electronic device that you modify through software or hardware not provided by the OEM voids the warranty why does everyone feel cell phone manufactures/carriers shouldn't its just mind boggling. If you're fedup an rdy to tell sprint **** you kiss my ass it ain't always greener on the otherside even if its red.
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I don't care about customer service, I have dealt with good and bad reps of ANY company I have ever dealt with.
Sprint has unlimited plans but their network is mark-ably worse then when I first started using it.
Verizon has much better signal everywhere. I have a Verizon Mifi device and when my Evo 3D or Sprint Wifi device (which I returned) could not connect at work at all I was getting decent 4G with Verizon! No connection vs connection with 4G. And we all know Verizon has a much faster 4G data rate.
There are pros and cons to every carrier. I have friends who have all carriers, I have tried all of them almost (AT&T, US Cellular, T-Mobile, Sprint, Cingular) and there is plus and minus to all of them. But your post has some good points as well. Thank you for your reply and I agree with a LOT of what you said.
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I have no idea what you said but I am guessing your post was a typical "retaliation" thread against mine and maybe the mods removed it so this post does not become a back and forth. But 30 posts about how they removed your threads are taking THIS thread off subject, so please stick to the subject matter.
A lot of people reply to posts with counter arguments but many go overboard. Maybe you did and they removed it? I can only speculate....
Anyhow, you can disagree with me of course but keep it clean. I opened this post with MY feelings, if yours differ offer counter arguments but no need to be rude (not saying your reply was rude, but seems there was something up with it).
I added to my first post now with more information
Loved your roms on the 4G, basically the only reason I responded to this thread (usually stay away from xda now). Sorry about the problems you are having.
Hopefully you find a phone and a carrier that treats you as well as your last phone.
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I don't care about customer service, I have dealt with good and bad reps of ANY company I have ever dealt with.
Sprint has unlimited plans but their network is mark-ably worse then when I first started using it.
Verizon has much better signal everywhere. I have a Verizon Mifi device and when my Evo 3D or Sprint Wifi device (which I returned) could not connect at work at all I was getting decent 4G with Verizon! No connection vs connection with 4G. And we all know Verizon has a much faster 4G data rate.
There are pros and cons to every carrier. I have friends who have all carriers, I have tried all of them almost (AT&T, US Cellular, T-Mobile, Sprint, Cingular) and there is plus and minus to all of them. But your post has some good points as well. Thank you for your reply and I agree with a LOT of what you said.
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Hi Ric, I also loved your roms on the EVO 4G too. I also made the switch to red, not because of the EVO 3D. I loved the phone and it's a solid phone but I didn't have a 1.5 hboot either. I might have felt differently if I had one. I as you did got tired of watching my coverage get worse. I'm not that far from you and I was paying for 4G coverage and hardly getting it . Some may disagree but I felt my 4G was better when I had my OG EVO. I'm no longer under "unlimited" data but is sprint truly "unlimited" when there's threads about guys getting cancelled for using too much data when it's "unlimited"..Just my .02. I'm sure in true XDA fashion someone will say "good riddance" or "cool story bro" but I'm a forum veteran and have seen it all on forums of all types. If it helps with your choice I'm loving the 4GLTE coverage Ric.
Peace
My wife has Virgin and she's sick and tired of her Samsung Intercept (what a shocker.) We want her to stick with a non contract provider, and it seems like most of the other carriers have sub par android offerings. The EVO V seems intriguing but I have 2 big concerns. 1. The phone is a year old. I know it had Good specs at the time and having ICS helps now but I want this phone to last more than a year. 2. I've read in some places that battery life is atrocious. Now my wife isn't a power user, but I also don't feel like hearing her complain constantly about the battery life. I'm leaning more toward this phone than the Milestone because I like the bumped specs and having a legit ICS is a big selling point. As far as a no contract Android goes, is this a good get or should I wait / keep shopping around or do others have some suggestions I may have overlooked?
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My wife has Virgin and she's sick and tired of her Samsung Intercept (what a shocker.) We want her to stick with a non contract provider, and it seems like most of the other carriers have sub par android offerings. The EVO V seems intriguing but I have 2 big concerns. 1. The phone is a year old. I know it had Good specs at the time and having ICS helps now but I want this phone to last more than a year. 2. I've read in some places that battery life is atrocious. Now my wife isn't a power user, but I also don't feel like hearing her complain constantly about the battery life. I'm leaning more toward this phone than the Milestone because I like the bumped specs and having a legit ICS is a big selling point. As far as a no contract Android goes, is this a good get or should I wait / keep shopping around or do others have some suggestions I may have overlooked?
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The battery life is about middle ground as far as Android high end phones. You can get a full day out of it if you need/want to. The phone, IMHO, still has plenty of life left in it. It fits great in your hands. And watching 3D videos on YouTube is awesome. I know people will say it is/was a gimmick, but I completely disagree. It is just an extra feature on a phone that sets it apart from the other ones. I think once the iPhone comes out with 3D, everyone will rush to get one and other phone makers will make it a standard feature on all phones. It was just ahead of its time on the Evo 3D. With hardly any other phones to share 3D images with, it makes it hard to show off how awesome 3D images and videos are without being next to someone and showing them on your phone.
I can understand people wanting to have the next generation of bigger and better phones, but just because a newer model is out doesn't make the Evo 3D magically stop working or cease to have a dual core processor with 1GB of RAM...which still runs every app and game, still makes phone calls, and send texts with ease.
This may or may not affect you, but could...the Evo 3D uses WiMAX and will that network will still be support for a few years in places where it is operational. Such as my little city. I have WiMAX and I use it as if my life depends on it. Sure, I could get the newest phone with LTE, but until Sprint gets it in my city, I'm stuck with 3G. And once you go 4G you can't go back.
I vote get the Evo 3D. And enjoy! I know I have enjoyed mine and will continue to...I am eligible for an upgrade, but I'm not sure I can do it yet because I love this phone and 4G data.
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It's a great phone at $100 off craigslist if you are already on sprint or can flash it somehow for another carrier. To pay $300 for it would be an incredible waste of money. Sprints wimax is worthless if you are moving and only ok if you are not. If your house is right next to a wimax tower you might be ok. I thought it has been said it has a few problems out of the box with sprints\virgins version of ics so be ready to flash\root it right away to make it work better. A lot of work for a $300 phone. The 3d part is really just a gimmick, kind of a add-on for the kiddies. These are the realities of this phone.http://voices.yahoo.com/3d-devices-smartphones-causing-headaches-eye-8858717.html
I love my Evo 3D now with ICS, but I wouldn't buy a new one now. Phones get old fast, your best bet is to buy the latest and greatest and it may last 2 years.
Buy it new for like $100 flash it to virgin. Its $300 cuz your not signing a contract. I'm running meanrom ics and I get days of medium use with absolutely no lag or issues.
Everybody gets the latest and greatest because that's how manufactures control the market. I don't think any other phone for this price is even comparable.
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The battery life is about middle ground as far as Android high end phones.
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Those must be the magical unicorn Android phones...
I'm averaging 50% remaining charge after ~36 hours with everything enabled except 4G. You can get 2 days out of the EVO V easily with Harmonia 3 (a cleaned up stock ROM):
http://www.vmroms.com/index.php?topic=157.0
I can't report on stock battery performance because frankly I rooted and installed Harmonia 3 about an hour after I got the phone.
Of the smartphones I've owned (Palm Pre, EVO 4G, Optimus V, Optimus Slider) and used, the EVO V is by far the best all around. This phone with a no-contract Virgin plan is just about perfect (for me).
I suspect those reporting atrocious battery life are leaving 4G on.
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Buy it new for like $100 flash it to virgin. Its $300 cuz your not signing a contract. I'm running meanrom ics and I get days of medium use with absolutely no lag or issues.
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There is a LOT of issues with flashing it to Virgin, he'd be better off flashing to Boost but regardless of which carrier it would involve cloning the MEID/ESN of a donor phone and I wouldn't suggest it unless you know a lot about phones and have a backup in case it takes you a while. It is worth it though even at $300, the specs are just as comparable to today's phones and over the time she would have the phone a couple of years it would have paid for itself several times in comparison to getting it on contract at a subsidized price. I would DEFINITELY suggest it, the phone's specs as I said are comparable to phones coming out today (even higher specs than some new phones) and whether or not it remains supported it'll still remain a good phone for a time to come.
Esn has nothing to do with flashing it to another carrier... Just firmware and pri. I work for radioshack so I deal with this on a daily basis
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Not to hate on HTC... but I would wait for new galaxy to drop in price. I think that is going to be the best phone out this year and honestly you will be good for atleast 2 years.
Battery is amazing if you are using a MEAN rom. Otherwise, so/so. Also... I would say the biggest concern is the crappy hardware. You are taking a chance at having a blown earpiece or failing digitizer. These are common issues and I suffer from BOTH.
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Esn has nothing to do with flashing it to another carrier... Just firmware and pri. I work for radioshack so I deal with this on a daily basis
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lol it does when the carrier doesn't allow flashing Work at radio shack? I've actually flashed phones so I know Boost Mobile and Virgin Mobile blocks MEIDs/ESNs that are not in their database. It's not like flashing to Cricket or Metro PCS because of this fact. You could flash to Boost or Virgin without changing it but you won't be able to put it on your account Go to Virgin or Boost and just try and activate an account with an ESN/MEID not in their database, it won't work and customer service won't do it either lol (nor will they add it)
The only and I mean *only* way to get a non virgin or boost phone working on a virgin or boost account is by flashing and changing the ESN/MEID.
Also, I HAAAAATE when people say "I work for Radio Shack" or "I work for Best Buy Mobile" or "I work for geek squad" and use it to say (hey I'm an expert) not to diss on any of these (in fact I'm sure a lot of them are very good), but the vast majority of people I know at these jobs know very little and only know what's part of their official training etc. Again not all of them but pleeeaaassseee don't be so sure in something you obviously don't have experience in and giving a user HORRIBLE advise in which they will likely regret it if they try and follow it In fact you probably shouldn't give advice on a subject unless you've tried it (which you obviously haven't lol)
Sorry to report that I have acquired a Galaxy Slll. Best Buy has them on sale for $99.00 today and tomorrow and they'll give me $75.00 for the Photon. That's $25.00 and Jelly Bean dropped from Sprint yesterday. There was no clear reason to change phones until LTE shows up here in Denver until my calculator said $25.00. The MoPho was and is a great phone, however Motorola's attitude sealed the deal. I've never been a huge Sammy fan and if I don't like the phone, there are three other users on the account that could inherit the MoPho and I win another phone.
Woo.
Cool...... Another "I'm leaving / quitting / giving up on this phone thread"....... Thanks for the clutter.......
you should have gotten the note 2! way better. i have jumped the ship to it.
No Samsung
I would always suggest staying away from Samsung. Samsung uses the worst antennas in the business. You will find that you get much better cell phone reception. Motorola is number 1, but does not put good phones on Sprint. Apple and HTC are tied for 2/3. Of course, I like HTC better than Apple for obvious reasons.
Go with almost anything over Samsung.
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Sorry to report that I have acquired a Galaxy Slll. Best Buy has them on sale for $99.00 today and tomorrow and they'll give me $75.00 for the Photon. That's $25.00 and Jelly Bean dropped from Sprint yesterday. There was no clear reason to change phones until LTE shows up here in Denver until my calculator said $25.00. The MoPho was and is a great phone, however Motorola's attitude sealed the deal. I've never been a huge Sammy fan and if I don't like the phone, there are three other users on the account that could inherit the MoPho and I win another phone.
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Why do people insist on putting these posts up? It just makes the forum cluttered with crap. No one cares or will miss you, just go.
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No one cares or will miss you, just go.
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I'm keeping that.
It's annoying to see all these posts (trust me I've seen nearly 100 on the original if forum). But the device is showing its age and people will lie ave. Its annoying but true.
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humanbean said:
I would always suggest staying away from Samsung. Samsung uses the worst antennas in the business. You will find that you get much better cell phone reception. Motorola is number 1, but does not put good phones on Sprint. Apple and HTC are tied for 2/3. Of course, I like HTC better than Apple for obvious reasons.
Go with almost anything over Samsung.
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if only this were true my sammy is getting better than my motos no joke. even my htc is better. this is compared to the note 2. which is a beast in every way. including the radio system. seems to be much improved. :silly: my s2 was pretty good as well.
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I would always suggest staying away from Samsung. Samsung uses the worst antennas in the business. You will find that you get much better cell phone reception. Motorola is number 1, but does not put good phones on Sprint. Apple and HTC are tied for 2/3. Of course, I like HTC better than Apple for obvious reasons.
Go with almost anything over Samsung.
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My wife has an Siii and I have a Photon. This isn't true any longer. Her phone works just as well, if not better, than mine. Internet service is much improved (and that's a 3G to 3G comparison). Talk & Text are at least equivalent. It's my opinion that Motorola no longer maintains a radio advantage. It certainly wasn't that way with her original Epic, but it sure is now.
The Siii is a wonderful phone. As soon as I'm able, I'll switch to it and NEVER look back. I'm considering just buying one outright and not extending my contract.
Great phone
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. I'm considering just buying one outright and not extending my contract.
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I recommend buying a used one off of ebay or craiglist if you won't extend contract. I did that with my photon a year ago. Saved several hundred dollars. I then bought the TEP for a few months to be sure it was OK.