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Ok so the Xperia X10 community has had it hard and there’s a lot of anger and resentment in the forums and all over the net. I know I’ve voiced my views with many degrees of hurt till I’m blue in the face but it doesn’t change much and generally puts everyone in a bad and defeated mood.
So I was thinking that while the amazing developers are hard at work trying to open the bootloader which would in turn bring the dawn of custom roms to the X10 what could I do to help them and the community look forward and do something positive.
So I thought rather than hug trees and kiss your neighbour why not start a thread with the sole purpose of designing a Rom in preparation for the day when the bootloader is cracked open.
I’m no coder but I can create graphic assets for UI’s and then I got to thinking what if we took a look at all the Roms out there that looked good or have excellent features that we would want in an X10 rom and from those ideas and new ones we could start the look and feel of a Rom with us in mind.
Now that would cheer everyone up surely. It could be something for us all to be proud of and for the other kitchens to take cues from as well.
So firstly lets post screen shots of things we think are ace, features we love or want, animation styles that are to die for even if they are scanned pencil sketches on paper. It would keep us occupied and give the developers some breathing space.
Just an idea
I love the idiea that sounds great wat ik would like to see are a few standard apps in the rom as rainy days titanium back up silent mode a good agenda msn talk pingchat and a good working alternitive internet browser.
if they could be put in the rom then we dont have to download them from the market.
remco.k said:
I love the idiea that sounds great wat ik would like to see are a few standard apps in the rom as rainy days titanium back up silent mode a good agenda msn talk pingchat and a good working alternitive internet browser.
if they could be put in the rom then we dont have to download them from the market.
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Having particular apps included is always a bonus but i'm thinking about the Rom features them selves and how it works to make using the phone better or at least different.
See the link for an example (Not that i want my phone to look like an iPhone copy BTW)
http://www.androidcentral.com/miui-rom-now-available-motorola-droid
A great idea. I hope this will lead to some great rom's. I'm new to android and xda and I only know Python and Free pascal, so I cannot help with programming, but I will surely post it here if I come up with something.
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If i remember correctly jerpelea has already compiled CM6 for X10..
I would like to see the Desire HD ROM to be ported . As it has already been ported to Nexus One and the Desire running the same Snapdragon QSD8250 it should not be much of a trouble..
I was thinking that a site just like Slax builder http://www.slax.org/build.php would be amazing.
If people could choose what apps, themes etc etc then download the custom rom I think it would be a hit...
If I knew more about rom dev I would love to have a go at seeing if this kind of thing would possible for x10 android roms. I'd be up for the dev of the site.
I would like to see on my X10 let's see.....any custom ROM.
Get Sense running on it (Android 2.2) and I'll buy an X10.
yeah good idea, but i prefer to focus our power on bootloader crack..or kick SE insiders to make them think about better decisions...but i look back, keep further..
oh, it will be great a modaco type rom maker, u know, like u choose what u want to implement to it....
daemons said:
yeah good idea, but i prefer to focus our power on bootloader crack..or kick SE insiders to make them think about better decisions...but i look back, keep further..
oh, it will be great a modaco type rom maker, u know, like u choose what u want to implement to it....
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A Rom with user selectable options sounds great, also sounds like a lot of work for the Dev's as essentially the rom would be compiled by the user via a gui then installed.
daemons said:
yeah good idea, but i prefer to focus our power on bootloader crack..or kick SE insiders to make them think about better decisions...but i look back, keep further..
oh, it will be great a modaco type rom maker, u know, like u choose what u want to implement to it....
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I think we should face the facts of the past events and give up on SE changing their direction on the X10's software lifecycle.
In all their statements not once do they apologise for not meeting the dates they set or not be close to the expectations of the X10 owners. In truth i sense an air of annoyance that they have to make statements on their own blog at all.
Future devices will be better and not so lacking on smart phone hardware standards but that will be based on associated developer requests rather than us or the general publics want and wishes.
That’s why I thought of this thread so we can end the disappoints because we’ll create what we want.
Cool idea.
Can i suggest the rom should have:
Launcher and interface:
ADW Launcher
Some 3rd party lock screen that is better than the stock, but not a buggy one
SMS Popup
SlideIT Keyboard
Beautiful Weather and Clock widget
Browser:
XScope G browser
Stock Browser as backup
Multimedia:
Doubletwist Music Player
iTag
Vignette
screenshot
Shazam
RingDroid
Utilities/Tools:
Unit Converter
SwiftFTP
gMote
Titanium Backup
EasyTether Lite
RealCalc Scientific Calculator
Xperia Flashlight
I'd suggest a clean ROM Apps can be installed later..
I'm not sure this is the right place to put this, and please don't freak out, you Windows Mobile haters, but I would like to see the X10 be able to dual boot Android and Windows Mobile.
Devtone said:
I'd suggest a clean ROM Apps can be installed later..
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I'm with you. A nice clean, stock ROM would be the best. Everybody can install apps for themselves (heard of AppBrain? ). Designing a ROM with pre-installed apps will be very difficult, since everybody has other tastes/likes. (For example: I hate everything pre-installed. I want to be able to choose what to install on my phone. I also hate that the pre-installed apps that come with a phone can't be uninstalled. They're just taking up precious space...)
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I'm not sure this is the right place to put this, and please don't freak out, you Windows Mobile haters, but I would like to see the X10 be able to dual boot Android and Windows Mobile.
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I would pay 25,00 euros for S2U2 on my X10!! The only reason I miss WinMo...
Could be cool with duel boot on the x10i. But i would say, focus on getting a clean room first, for when the bootloader is cracked. Just with standard stuff like the browser, etc.
The CM for x10 would be amazing yes, but a custom room only for the x10, why not but good luck
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That's right!
I just need a clean n OPTIMIZED for our snap dragon and GPU and memory ...thats enough ...
really news on bootloader has dried up... and lock screen in x10 is killing me and making me break the phone...
i simply wish we had a better ROM with all those resource hogging apps out of the system.
also i simply wish we had the first key in the bottom to answer calls .. instead of lock screen... that would be really great ...
720 P recording and better audio drivers with optimized and improved bass would be a real addition...
also wish dev somehow enable 16m color...
I am tired of SE .. had been a seriuos SE fan for nealry 5 yrs now
t610-k700-k750-k800-k850-w995 all major phones from them... but those days we had se-nse for custom tunning the drivers and it was fun... but now with this bootloader [email protected] i am missing the real fun..
if SE cant do anything ... they should atleast open up the bootloader to dev`s...
Hi there, good afternoon.
This might be already answered, but I just wanted to be sure if it's possible or not.
I've recently bought an X10 Mini Pro, and updated it to 2.1, but it still doesn't look like I want it too, so I was wondering this...
Is it possible to take the OS off from this phone, trim/clean it, and put it back to the phone as I want it without all the junk and with the apps I really want on it?
If this is possible and has been answered many times then I'm sorry to ask again, please just point me in the right direction/post and I won't bother you all no more, many thanks
Well you cant take the ROM of yet etc... but you can use root explorer to delete the stock apps that you don't want.. [Need Root]
Check these links out:
http://x10mini_resources.iouri.net/remained.txt
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=740338
Read carefully, hope this helps.
Manny
Hi there,
Well, that will be much easier that what I had in mind
Thanks for the links, I've had a quick look at them and they are quite interesting, only 2 questions pop up in my head now...
Will I be able to update my phone with future updates if I root it?
If I root it, can I get rid of the stock launcher forever and use something like Launcher Pro or Helix instead?
Thanks for the answers
Yes and yes
i do what the peopples are telling you , with very pretty results, but i just dont delete the apps, i replace them with other apks, example semchome.apk (default se launcher) with the helix apk (saved as semchome.apk) the same with the keyboard (save keyboard pro apk as se keyboard apk), and eventualy really remove useless stuff like se play now and games demos... its pretty similar to a clean rom now, regards
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Well, many thanks to you all for the info, appreciated.
I'll start immediately reading on how to root the phone, I hope is not too complicated to do
Or you can just change your phone to a Spanish generic build (you probably have a Vodafone one), update via SEUS and you should have a clean phone.
The one advantage of this is that if there are future updates, and you use SEUS to get up to date you will not have the junk installed on your phone.
Regards.
Hi there,
How do I know what build do I have? I bought this phone new from eBay, and it was supposed to be locked to T-Mobile, although it came unlocked and without anything from T-Mobile in it, or nothing I can see anyway
I don't see any application apart from the basic Sony ones, and a couple of games, but nothing that tells me this phone is from T-Mobile... it'd be great if I could know somehow the build it's in it, so I can check if I could get a cleaner one
Thanks.
Dear all,
I just had this very idea, wanted to share with you:
1a) Put together SE legacy stuff, that some of us might miss:
- Backup & restore
- Timescape
1b) Bring stuff from new devices, like ARC, for instance:
- Arc launcher
- Any fancy apps you recommend
2) Publish it via xRecovery as an add-on.
We could centralize all efforts here, on this thread. What do you think? Please post the threads, if you have already efforts or results on part of these (I'm just looking into how to crack licensing for the backup ), I will also try to enlist those.
Cheers, arch
PS: this is not an SE blame/hate thread, so please no posts on how much you dislike this or that...
Alpha2 for CM6, download from here:
http://rapidshare.com/files/452882711/se_legacy_alpha2.zip
(alpha1: http://rapidshare.com/files/452780369/se_legacy_alpha1.zip)
Install via xRecovery as a custom zip.
Note: build.prop was edited that manufacturer is 'Sony Ericsson' again.
Features:
- Timescape and backup&restore (thanks to myth999)
status here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=982051
Known issues: backup and restore works fine, for timescape font is too small (not much of a use now)
- Arc launcher (thanks to phoneyericsson and manjeet15)
threads here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=979675 and http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=973153
Known issues: Tray bar is not visible, blocks are too large, drawer window is vertically somewhat small.
Notes: Also tried the one from fifarunnerr for the Wildfire but it is still buggy also with drawer button alignment.
- Sony Ericsson Sync (by me)
Sony Ericsson account can be used from sync accounts. Also sync is provided as an extra app. Theoretically other SyncML accounts could be also used.
Known issues: Font is black with a black background by account settings. By adding a new SE SyncML only first/last name is editable, no phone numbers (maybe a number from the call could be saved, don't know).
Anyway we can restore our old contacts from sbf backups or from Sony, this is cool anyway (saved my butt aswell). With the new contacts app also vcf export is there, so after an export it could be directly fed to Google contacts, cool aswell.
- Voice search
Works flawlessly.
- Track ID
Known issues: Locked, do not work currently.
Biggest thanks goes to Lef.teris for providing the ARC rom.
Works good otherwise, got one FC from timespace during the whole day. I've seen no degradation of original CM rom.
Testers are welcome.
Cheers, arch
I dunno what's done, but maybe this help ?
Sorry if this is old news ;D
"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V65d3WTVrhs"
HanMedSverd said:
I dunno what's done, but maybe this help ?
Sorry if this is old news ;D
"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V65d3WTVrhs"
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This is exactly the point! Could you pass a link on the last version?
(I've seen 2 of them: one has the drawer misaligned, and the other's drawer window is vertically somewhat undersized.)
Cheers, arch
Maybe I'm totally misaligned: too much SE stuff needs to be taken over for some these, don't know. The arc launcher is at least quite standalone.
Just tell me
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This is exactly the point! Could you pass a link on the last version?
(I've seen 2 of them: one has the drawer misaligned, and the other's drawer window is vertically somewhat undersized.)
Cheers, arch
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Didn't quite get that ?
It's not my work.. ^^ Only searched for Arc launcher xD
Sorry D:
Sorry, what I meant is that the point is to centralize these efforts in one thread if possible, here in DEV and also package them together. That way we don't have to manage N threads and check what is the latest, is there an effort to do this or that.
Cheers, arch
hey arch,
i have managed to crack ''SE backup and restore license'' and it loads now on CM6 mini pro...
but ofcrs its nt fully functional so need to work on it and also sm help
i also got ''timescape'' from xperia arc fully running on any froyo device even non SE devices
however for ldpi devices the text is too small to read so need help there too
u can find the thread under x10 mini themes and apps section titled ''timescape apk edit''
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=982051
Alpha1 uploaded. Thanks to myth for his hard work!
Cheers, arch
Alpha2 is up, if anyone is interested...
why dont you attach the files to the post(click on "edit" button then scroll down until you see a brown bar sayng "additional options"... and them select "manage attachments").... it is easyer to download
archflex when i bring an update i will include the right build.prop for this alpha so you wont need that build.prop anymore and that way it will work on cm6 and cm7 this way only on cm6
will mail you when i've done it (;
thanx owain
having a build.prop with manufacturer Sony Ericsson would really help newbies
there is one funny thing here...
some htc desire users reported timescape + ts widget working fine
apart from that even backup and restore was working for them
if some one here could test sms and contacts backup/restore on a non SE phone then it cld be a boon I guess
Thanks a lot guys!
The resolution the Desire is quite close the Arc (54 pixels difference only ), so at least they could read the Timespace UI
I'm really shocked by the Arc APKs, how SE independent they are, good stuff. Open source, freely distributable, wow: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11677993&postcount=8
Thanks again, arch
But the real problem is starting now.
The new retail arc firmware has locked apps, or apps that cross verify signatures via shareduserids...
trackid is locked too
Though am working on track id at this very moment and hope to over come the lock lol
SE gonna sue me haha
TRACK ID
first goto build.prop
see this line
ro.product.device = U20i
it should be U20i after "=" and capital U20i is not same as u20i
I could get it to work on my 2.1 stock rom
but it doesnt work on CM6, it doesnt seem to be able to connect to the microphone to record audio.
Maybe owain could help here now
if it says couldnt parse package just change permissions to 777 using root explorer then install
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first goto build.prop
see this line
ro.product.device = U20i
it should be U20i after "=" and capital U20i is not same as u20i
I could get it to work on my 2.1 stock rom
but it doesnt work on CM6, it doesnt seem to be able to connect to the microphone to record audio.
Maybe owain could help here now
if it says couldnt parse package just change permissions to 777 using root explorer then install
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Thanks a lot, will check on that.
The funny thing is that voice search sees the mic without problems...
myth999 said:
But the real problem is starting now.
The new retail arc firmware has locked apps, or apps that cross verify signatures via shareduserids...
trackid is locked too
Though am working on track id at this very moment and hope to over come the lock lol
SE gonna sue me haha
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are they really? so it's not a mic problem after all, just there is no notification that 'hey, what the hell are you doing?'
could you send where the locking code is? The good thing is that if one app lock is removed, similarly all other apps could be broken.
there ws a file in system/framework called com.xxx.privateapps**.jar
I thought it wld b inteeresting but when I deodexed its class.dex I ddnt get anythng worth it.
so I guess they lock by
1. build.prop entries and
2. signature cross verify using shared ids.
as for new arc firmware best option is to use old arc dump files and not retail ones
as for track id, its nt microphone prob, prob has smthin to do with these files.
useragentprovider.apk
customizationprovider.apk
credentialmanager.apk
well myth999 and archflex its good to see the xda spirit got you and I am happy to see you really dug into all the infos and became a developer yourself now. I really like it when people start helping and still are eager to get to the next step and contribute to the community
myth999 said:
there ws a file in system/framework called com.xxx.privateapps**.jar
I thought it wld b inteeresting but when I deodexed its class.dex I ddnt get anythng worth it.
so I guess they lock by
1. build.prop entries and
2. signature cross verify using shared ids.
as for new arc firmware best option is to use old arc dump files and not retail ones
as for track id, its nt microphone prob, prob has smthin to do with these files.
useragentprovider.apk
customizationprovider.apk
credentialmanager.apk
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No trackid in the non-retail version Also no time, no cable today, grrr...
I have been searching around trying to find a way to get some of the older Android 2.1 Galaxy S LWP's to work on the Atrix. Particularly the Ocean Waves with the ripple effect.
For some reason these LWP's don't actually manage to load or for that matter get past the "Loading Live Wallpaper" screen.
From a bit of searching around it looks like a few things are wrong or just not optimized for our phone. Either the resolutions are all wrong or the Atrix is missing some library files to make things happen, maybe the "libmnglw-0.8.2.so" and the "liblwfa-0.A.2-mng-p1.so". I'm pretty sure the need to be pushed to the system/lib folder.
I have attached all I have from some searching the web trying to get answers, and was wondering if someone might have the time to look through them and find out why they may not be working on the phone? The library files are in the "Live Wallpapers.zip". I have attached a little test try that i attempted to put together hoping to figure this out "TestOceanWaves.apk". A crude effort at changing the image resolution and some resolutions in the files themselves. The rest is just apk's to pull data from.
I did manage to get the lib files into the correct directors and changed the permissions to match the files in that directory but so far a no go. Hopefully someone might be able to find the time to use software I most likely don't have to play with these and get something working. Fingers crossed. From a little bit of research these might actually be sought after on the Atrix
Thanks for any and all help.
hi, i have the same request, i loved the ocean weaves lwp in my DEFY, when i changed from eclair to froyo stoped working not sure why and in my atrix is the same thing i hope we can get a ported app or something for the atrix
Just have to keep fingers crossed that the right person comes across this. Maybe a few virtual beers would help.lol We'll have to see.
Hi iam new to all this, and i try to read so mmany things that i can, but not all is easy to find.
1: When you port a rom from 1 phone 2 another, how do they do it, why is there so many problems with diff aps? If i see CM they seem to get things to work on diff models at the same time, why is that?
2: What does 9 png mean i know that png is a picture extension.
3: Why is it from what i read a pain in the *** to remake aps to another phone
4: I use the new rom with sence 2.1, i really love it, but i would like to remove the names on my aps/shortcuts (forgot the real word for it) like you can in adw launcher, is this possible and how.
Thx in advance, for this site and hopefully answers
Brian DK
As far as I know the hardest thing to do in order to make a custom ROM work is to make all the drivers working. They are usually developed by the hardware manufacturer and are available only as binaries so it is not so simple to make all the system work perfectly.
I know this explanation may not be complete, but I hope I have clarified the basis at least.
Thx, it was what i fugured, so thx for answer
The problems with remaking apps is they are usually for a phone with a higher resolution,so things dont fit properly
Ha ha... you can go read what ogo2 have been doing with the salsa rom on dev side to see what happening. I've been following that thread for quite some time.
Give his rom a test drive. Best way to know this issue is to experience it.
About rename or no name on app, I think it's a launchers function. I just learn that you can rename or leave the short cut blank in "go launcher ex"
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