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hey!
i got myself a used TG01 but it didnt came with a usb host cable, so i decided to use a gender changer and the data cable to connect the peripherals to my phone, but it did not work...it does not recognize anything, am i doing something wrong ? or cant it be connected with anything else then the usb host cable provided?
thanks!!
mordockcs said:
hey!
i got myself a used TG01 but it didnt came with a usb host cable, so i decided to use a gender changer and the data cable to connect the peripherals to my phone, but it did not work...it does not recognize anything, am i doing something wrong ? or cant it be connected with anything else then the usb host cable provided?
thanks!!
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it's a generic micro USB cable, you can find it at NOkia or HTC store
thanks for the reply, i already made some research and found out that the host cable is in fact a special cable that has 2 wires grounded on the micro usb side.
i actually was able to make one, but it must have broke a soldering point and if i connect it, it drains my battery in 10 minutes...
after the failure i just brought one out of ebay.
regards!
BTW: i encountered and other problem...
i had 2 micro USB cables, and i destroyed 1 to make the host cable, they looked the same so i picked one at random, now the phone wont change with this cable with the ac adapter connected i have to connect it to the PC to that it can receive power.
I tested with an other cable and it worked...has anyone experienced this?
I made one using an old USB extension cable. It took about 10 mins. Short the green and white wires on the female side of the USB cable. Now will use any normal in-car charger.
mordockcs said:
thanks for the reply, i already made some research and found out that the host cable is in fact a special cable that has 2 wires grounded on the micro usb side.
i actually was able to make one, but it must have broke a soldering point and if i connect it, it drains my battery in 10 minutes...
after the failure i just brought one out of ebay.
regards!
BTW: i encountered and other problem...
i had 2 micro USB cables, and i destroyed 1 to make the host cable, they looked the same so i picked one at random, now the phone wont change with this cable with the ac adapter connected i have to connect it to the PC to that it can receive power.
I tested with an other cable and it worked...has anyone experienced this?
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you have to have a short on the 2 data wires for it to charge.
it seems that some people on the forum say they have a standard micro USB connector on the Flyer??? and most of the ebay sellers list standard micro usb products for the HTC Flyer
MY connection is a proprietary one - it looks like a micro usb but has a 'step' in it
like this one...zoom in on the picture
http://www.expansys.com.au/htc-flyer-data-cable-dc-t500-extmicro-usb-12pin-white-209995/
wtf is going on?
Try it, you will like it, except for charging.............
try what? what will i like? what about the charging?
off the shelf micro usb works fine.
The proprietary style is only for charging
If u have a micro usb cable then u have to put it in the opposite way. Like this
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It's a generic micro USB connection. The extra's is just that, extra. And not mandatory. I read somewhere (could be here, could be somewhere else) that they made the different connector so you wouldn't use the charger on a device that can't handle the power. But you can use any micro USB cable to connect the device to your PC. And you can even use any micro USB charger, but you'll need a lot of patience as it'll take a long, long time!
While you can use a standard micro USB cable, I have heard it would be better to use the HTC one because it will stay in better. I have used a standard one just fine, but the HTC one does hold in better IMO.
vj092887 said:
If u have a micro usb cable then u have to put it in the opposite way. Like this
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Its both proprietary AND standard. As vj092887 said, you insert the micro-USB male plug "upside-down" from how you would on most HTC devices. And it plugs into the "bottom half" of the jack. All this is in respect to the tablet laying flat, with the screen facing up.
If you use the included charger or sync cable, it takes up the "whole" jack. Sync doesn't really make a difference. But the included charger is much faster than standard HTC Micro-USB chargers.
jeebus on a swizzle stick, only after reading this did i actually shove a standard micro usb into it and i'll be damned.....
thanks guys
n7of9 said:
jeebus on a swizzle stick, only after reading this did i actually shove a standard micro usb into it and i'll be damned.....
thanks guys
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Shortly after I got my Flyer, I was at work and wanted to connect it to my laptop. And realized I had left my (HTC) cable at home, sticking in my PC there. I was also kind of disappointed as I had bought the flyer specifically because you could use a micro USB cable!
So, I thought, well, why not try it and see if it fits. And as I generally always first try to stick a cable in upside down (don't ask me why, even if I think about it, I'll try it upside down first ), I got lucky this time and found it fitted
Sweetpea8472 said:
Shortly after I got my Flyer, I was at work and wanted to connect it to my laptop. And realized I had left my (HTC) cable at home, sticking in my PC there. I was also kind of disappointed as I had bought the flyer specifically because you could use a micro USB cable!
So, I thought, well, why not try it and see if it fits. And as I generally always first try to stick a cable in upside down (don't ask me why, even if I think about it, I'll try it upside down first ), I got lucky this time and found it fitted
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USB cables tend to go in the right way on the third try!
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And as I generally always first try to stick a cable in upside down (don't ask me why, even if I think about it, I'll try it upside down first ),
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i NEVER put in cables upside down (because i always put a little dot on the top side of the connector using nail polish...you can use liquid paper for a more 'manly' experience)
Is there a source for an innexpensive extra cable? I've been using a standard micro USB and it works but feels very loose compared to the official HTC cable that came with my flyer.
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If you mean with a HTC style power connector, no, that's for charging only. For data cables Ebay or Amazon has them for about $1 each.
DigitalMD said:
If you mean with a HTC style power connector, no, that's for charging only. For data cables Ebay or Amazon has them for about $1 each.
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I wouldnt buy those generic cables from ebay/amazon etc they are poorly made and can either break off in your device, break off the connector on the device, or short out.. I highly recommend getting either Motorola or HTC OEM cables. They cost $2 - $5 but its worth it.
http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-SKN5...1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1323629211&sr=1-1
Does this mean that the MHL adapter with 5 pins will work (standard Micro USB), and I don't need the 12 pin MHL version (extMicro USB)?
galfert said:
Does this mean that the MHL adapter with 5 pins will work (standard Micro USB), and I don't need the 12 pin MHL version (extMicro USB)?
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yes! but apparently it charges really slowly so microUSB is best left to data transfer only
str8upx said:
I wouldnt buy those generic cables from ebay/amazon etc they are poorly made and can either break off in your device, break off the connector on the device, or short out.. I highly recommend getting either Motorola or HTC OEM cables. They cost $2 - $5 but its worth it.
http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-SKN5...1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1323629211&sr=1-1
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Perhaps I wasn't clear enough. Although a standard micro USB connector works for me when transferring data I don't like how loose it seems in the Flyer's socket. So I want another cable just like the one that came with my Flyer, a micro ExtUSB cable. I've only found mini ExtUSB cables not micro ones, hence my request for an inexpensive cable source.
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bsoplinger said:
Perhaps I wasn't clear enough. Although a standard micro USB connector works for me when transferring data I don't like how loose it seems in the Flyer's socket. So I want another cable just like the one that came with my Flyer, a micro ExtUSB cable. I've only found mini ExtUSB cables not micro ones, hence my request for an inexpensive cable source.
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there are no inexpensive extUSB cables...i don't know where you are but try expansys or amazon in your country...they're all upwards of $20
There is no 3rd party source for the non-standard HTC proprietary connector.
HTC manufactured Windows Mobile and Android-based devices have a proprietary connector called HTC Micro ExtUSB (Extended USB). ExtUSB combines Micro-USB (with which it is backwards-compatible) with audio input as well as audio and video output in an 11-pin connector. The extra pins also allow for higher charging currents.
If you really want to spend on a high quality cable, here you go, the best, most expensive per foot USB micro cable in the world . For ~$25 this should keep your Flyer and small pets from bursting into flame............
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4256657&CatId=77
By the way, all the generic or other brand MHL adapters work fine with the HTC for connection to HDMI.
I guess the U in usb isn't so universal, found out today that you HAVE TO use the cable with the (v-cast sticker) in order to transfer data and any other cable INCLUDING the ones they sell at the V store will only charge the phone.
Ford_Tech said:
I guess the U in usb isn't so universal, found out today that you HAVE TO use the cable with the (v-cast sticker) in order to transfer data and any other cable INCLUDING the ones they sell at the V store will only charge the phone.
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Not true. Mine has no vcast or Motorola branding and transfers my stuff just fine.
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None of the cables I had would work including 2 that vz store sold me, perhaps it's a quality issue but using the vcast cable works fine.
Any micro USB cable works just fine for data transfer and such. I use my old blackberry USB cords all the time to do data transfers with no problems at all
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kimo91 said:
Any micro USB cable works just fine for data transfer
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I thought so as well but apparently in my phones case not so, I even tried my wifes LG phone cable and it wouldn't work either.
Ford_Tech said:
I thought so as well but apparently in my phones case not so, I even tried my wifes LG phone cable and it wouldn't work either.
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Maybe the USB port?
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Turn on mass storage?
Any micro USB cable will work.
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Turn on mass storage?
Any micro USB cable will work.
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+1 for this, maybe u set it charge only....
I using western digital hardisk cable and it works fine, also use nokia usb cable
RAZR -武装 戦線-
Ford_Tech said:
I thought so as well but apparently in my phones case not so, I even tried my wifes LG phone cable and it wouldn't work either.
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The LG cable from my work Epic 4g doesn't work on my Razr. The HTC cable, blackberry cable, and Motorola cables all work fine. I did have to restart the phone to get the cables to work after I tried to use the LG cable.
LG cables are known to suck, avoid them like the plague.
I've just been using any old cables I've had lying round, at least 3 different brands, lengths etc, no problems at all.
murky024 said:
The LG cable from my work Epic 4g doesn't work on my Razr. The HTC cable, blackberry cable, and Motorola cables all work fine. I did have to restart the phone to get the cables to work after I tried to use the LG cable.
LG cables are known to suck, avoid them like the plague.
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In fact I'm using my daughters old LG cord for both charging and data swapping on my Razr. Have you checked your cords maybe it has some corrosion in the micro part that's causing your issues?
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This is known issue with Motorola phones having to use certain micro USB cables. Not all will work on a cellbrite machine or for data transfer. Not every USB cable is the same. I am not sure the technical reason for it, but BB cables do not work. For what it is worth BB uses USB A to micro USB "B" cables.
The easiest way to tell if the cable will support debugging mode. The charge only cables will not trigger the debugging mode in the status bar.
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Ford_Tech said:
I guess the U in usb isn't so universal, found out today that you HAVE TO use the cable with the (v-cast sticker) in order to transfer data and any other cable INCLUDING the ones they sell at the V store will only charge the phone.
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Completely untrue. I have never unpacked my Razr's charge/USB cable. It is still in its box. I use the USB cable from my first-generation B&N Nook to charge and transfer data. I sideloaded over 20 gb of data onto my card with it and use USB tether with it.
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kimo91 said:
Any micro USB cable works just fine for data transfer and such. I use my old blackberry USB cords all the time to do data transfers with no problems at all
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Dakota0206 said:
This is known issue with Motorola phones having to use certain micro USB cables. Not all will work on a cellbrite machine or for data transfer. Not every USB cable is the same. I am not sure the technical reason for it, but BB cables do not work. For what it is worth BB uses USB A to micro USB "B" cables.
The easiest way to tell if the cable will support debugging mode. The charge only cables will not trigger the debugging mode in the status bar.
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well according to the quote above, BB cables do work.
And ive been charging my Razr on my BB Tour cable just fine all day.
OK some Blackberry cables do not work. This isn't even a debate. Just Google. There are several articles on this that go into what causes it. Most micro USB cables do work just fine. So don't say that "well I used these hand full of cables" so I'm going to pass that off as scientific proof that you must have a defective phone.
What idiot would pull a random cable have it work and say well that proves they all work?
It's mostly a problem with Motorola phones and some HTC. It has something to do with the amps (or something) the phone needs out of the cable. While all micro USB cables have the same number of pins, apparently not all have the same number of wires connecting all the pins. This is what I have read, I have not actually stripped a cable to find out.
I do have daily experience transferring data through all kinds of phones and we have a couple of cables that will not work on the Droid 3, X2, Bionic, or Razr. They are not defective cables because they do work on some other phones.
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Ford_Tech said:
I guess the U in usb isn't so universal, found out today that you HAVE TO use the cable with the (v-cast sticker) in order to transfer data and any other cable INCLUDING the ones they sell at the V store will only charge the phone.
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What are you talking about? I have never used the vzn usb cable they are too short. I think there is some user error here.
Dakota0206 said:
OK some Blackberry cables do not work. This isn't even a debate. Just Google. There are several articles on this that go into what causes it. Most micro USB cables do work just fine. So don't say that "well I used these hand full of cables" so I'm going to pass that off as scientific proof that you must have a defective phone.
What idiot would pull a random cable have it work and say well that proves they all work?
It's mostly a problem with Motorola phones and some HTC. It has something to do with the amps (or something) the phone needs out of the cable. While all micro USB cables have the same number of pins, apparently not all have the same number of wires connecting all the pins. This is what I have read, I have not actually stripped a cable to find out.
I do have daily experience transferring data through all kinds of phones and we have a couple of cables that will not work on the Droid 3, X2, Bionic, or Razr. They are not defective cables because they do work on some other phones.
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I never said that all BB cables or USB cables work.
In your post I first quoted you said BB cables don't work, implying that they all don't work.
The same guy posted the same incorrect information on android forums.com....
Stop wasting money on cables from the verizon store.
No problem here either, I've used cables as different as
2 metre könig usb cable with fake gold plating (really cheap brand)
0,7 metre cheap plastic cable I found in a box at work
The two original moto cables
A hair thin samsung original cable
If you're on a laptop, that's probably your problem. Or your front USB if it's a desktop.
I too have used numerous MicroUSB cables without any issues.
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What cables can I use to plug a normal USB flash drive into my phone? I can't find a female to female USB to use with my photon USB cable. am I overlooking the obvious or is it not possible?
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w0lf215 said:
What cables can I use to plug a normal USB flash drive into my phone? I can't find a female to female USB to use with my photon USB cable. am I overlooking the obvious or is it not possible?
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I dont think it's possible. A computer reads the phone when it's plugged in but the phone doesnt read the computer so I dont see it reading a flash drive either.
Ive seen that you supposedly can, and would like to give it a shot. Here is an app that supposedly will, im just struggling with the physical aspect of plugging one into my photon..
I found one at Radio Shack.
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http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...pf_rd_t=3201&pf_rd_p=1280661682&pf_rd_i=typ01
You can pretty much find anything on Amazon. I ordered one for $1.51 and no shipping
MikeyLee said:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...pf_rd_t=3201&pf_rd_p=1280661682&pf_rd_i=typ01
You can pretty much find anything on Amazon. I ordered one for $1.51 and no shipping
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Thats a mini USB, not a micro. And all that i find that are indeed micro USB upon reading reviews appear to not be USB Host OTG cables. Can anyone confirm or deny if this will work for what im trying to do..? I *think* it will but want to confirm before ordering. thanks!
http://www.amazon.com/Micro-B-USB-C...ectronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1328238723&sr=1-1-spell
Gonna need to splice in a 5v power source as the Photon doesn't supply power.
w0lf215 said:
Thats a mini USB, not a micro. And all that i find that are indeed micro USB upon reading reviews appear to not be USB Host OTG cables. Can anyone confirm or deny if this will work for what im trying to do..? I *think* it will but want to confirm before ordering. thanks!
http://www.amazon.com/Micro-B-USB-C...ectronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1328238723&sr=1-1-spell
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Yeah I realize that now LOL I meant to post this one
http://www.amazon.com/USB-Micro-Fem...TRUO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1328244310&sr=8-1
Lokifish Marz said:
Gonna need to splice in a 5v power source as the Photon doesn't supply power.
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Is this the case for external hdd powered by USB only? Or just normal USB flash drives also?
Most OTG capable devices (again I don't think the Photon is one) only supply about 100mA. This is barely enough to power flashdrives. Only low power flashdrives work, beyond that most usb devices that are powered by usb only will not even turn on.
In short if your usb device powers up and works using only an OTG cable, consider yourself lucky.
I got my GS3 and was rather pleased until I went to root it--I realized the charger that I received with it was not the stock charger that comes with most phones. I can't connect it to my computer to drag stuff onto the SD card, etc (like the Rezound charging cable allowed). Could I find one of these cables at Walmart? If so, what would it be called?
Micro USB Cable
Kelton Rivas said:
I got my GS3 and was rather pleased until I went to root it--I realized the charger that I received with it was not the stock charger that comes with most phones. I can't connect it to my computer to drag stuff onto the SD card, etc (like the Rezound charging cable allowed). Could I find one of these cables at Walmart? If so, what would it be called?
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I'm pretty sure their micro usb cables. And yes, you could probably find them at walmart, but you can also get them online cheap at amazon or ebay.
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Repla...87283&sr=8-1&keywords=micro+usb+cable+samsung
Just make sure it is a "data" charging cable. You can also just buy a charging cable which won't access your phone data.
I definitely need it to access my data. I can't root my phone other wise. Thanks everyone
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Kelton Rivas said:
I definitely need it to access my data. I can't root my phone other wise. Thanks everyone
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Yeap it's definitely Micro USB, the plug is multifunction and shaped like the HDMI/USB cable but it's also regular micro USB friendly, just use quality cables to keep from wearing out the input over time.